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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-07-06

---Logopened Wed Jul 06 00:00:44 2016
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00:47<linda18>hi! i'm linda18 and soo alone...
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01:12<jabyr>hola como estan saben que nesecito ayuda por que voy a instalar debian pero no me reconoce el controlador inalambrico
01:13-!-mathieu [~mathieu@nie67-1-78-226-109-145.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
01:13<jabyr>lo que quiero saber es como pasar los driver a un pendrive
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01:13<towo^work>!es
01:13<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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01:14<jabyr>perfecto ahi vamos
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02:20<anonymous>hello
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03:01<Polyphony>i.imgur.com/DFAIvot.png gnumeric is looking exceptionally awful after I just installed it and nothing I've tried is helping. All of my other gtk (2 & 3) applications run fine. Gnumeric doesn't even respond to when I change the theme with lxappearance or gtk-theme-switch
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03:02<Polyphony>any ideas on files I should look at or possible solutions?
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03:57<Aleksej>Hi. I've got a question about bug severity levels: if some application segfaults most of the time at startup, is it Severity: important or Severity: grave?
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04:00<babilen>Aleksej: Does that render the package unusable for all users?
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04:03<Aleksej>babilen: That's the question. It's a game (xshisen), and If it segfaults, but not exactly everytime, like every 7 out of 10, does it render the package unusable enough for Severity: grave?
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04:07<babilen>Aleksej: I'd start with "important" -- it can always be adjusted later on
04:07<babilen>(if it turns out that it is not specific to your setup and renders the game more or less unusable for everyone)
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04:11<Aleksej>babilen: I'm sure it's not specific for my setup. I've found the reason (uninitialized pointer) and created a patch to fix the issue. The bug has already been reported more than a year ago by some user, I'm just thinking about raising its' severity since it seems to be an RC-bug. But I'm not sure, hence the question.
04:12<babilen>Fair enough, it doesn't sound unjustified. I just tend to pick a lower severity for initial bug reports unless I'm certain that the rules apply
04:12<babilen>Tag it patch and raise the severity ... that might get it fixed soonish
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04:13<babilen>It really is nothing that can't be adjusted later on and it sounds as if this bug really is "grave"
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04:23<Aleksej>babilen: The original bug has Severity: important, but that's likely because the submitter mistakenly considered that the game crashes on i386 only and works OK on amd64 - but I've checked that's not the case. It's just pure luck: whether the uninitialized memory region has some garbage in it (bad) or only zeros (good). So I'm going to raise the severity and tag it appropriately. Thank you very much for clarification!
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04:40<amoe>Is there any way to disable the internal keyboard of a laptop outside of X? i.e. applying to the console too
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04:49<babilen>amoe: You might be able to do so in the BIOS
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06:28<RequiemAeternam>Hi, I want to create a script that can command ffmpeg, but I want that it runs in background and I can order to it in someway to stop the registration, how can I do it?
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06:30<RequiemAeternam>I know that when ffmpeg is started you must type "q" to stop it, but how can I tell the script to do it and have something on the interface that I can use for telling the script to stop? Maybe zenity can help?
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06:36<olspookishmagus>hello, could someone pinpoint why this was removed? https://packages.qa.debian.org/r/roxterm.html
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06:38<blast007>olspookishmagus: did you look at the news items there?
06:39<rudi_s>olspookishmagus: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827768
06:39<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/827768 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: roxterm -- ROM; Upstream discontinued; has RC bug»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-06-20; last modified: 2016-06-21.
06:39<olspookishmagus>you mean this: https://packages.qa.debian.org/r/roxterm/news/20160621T054501Z.html specificaly?:
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06:40<blast007>olspookishmagus: yep
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07:46<backbox>WELCOME bando
07:46<akata>hello
07:46<backbox>sup skakata
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08:02<RotisserieRoasts>Hey, whats 1 + 1, your IQ!
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08:46<krymzon>Hi, I have a problem with a small local DNS setup (using maradns). The DNS itself seems to be working, DHCPD is configured to supply its address, but somehow no clients, (even on the DNS server itself) use it automatically, I have to specifically nslookup a.mytld 10.1.2.34
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08:49<krymzon>Any ideas on what I may be missing? The idea is to just serve an internal domain authoritatively, and no recursive DNS is attempted
08:50<grawity>well the obvious thing to check would be whether those clients are actually offered 10.1.2.34 in the DHCP leases
08:50<grawity>and if not, *what* they're being offered instead
08:50<grawity>wireshark/tcpdump/tshark may help
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08:54<krymzon>Thank you. The test client is on macos (and the target clients are going to be laptops of various sorts), and it reports $ipconfig getpacket en4 (...) domain_name_server (ip_mult): {10.1.2.34}
08:55<krymzon>I'll verify with tcpdump
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09:02<krymzon>tcpdump is some digging, but I've now checked dhcpdump and on reconnecting it reports, correctly, OPTION: 6 ( 4) DNS server 10.1.2.34
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09:05<grawity>does it report any 'domain' or 'search' options too?
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09:06<krymzon>no, and I don't think I specified them in the dhcpd.conf, should they help?
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09:07<blast007>do any DNS queries work, such as for google.com?
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09:08<krymzon>I've also now looked at tcpdump while doing the actual DNS requests, and the ones without specified server don't even register
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09:10<krymzon>at the moment I have a second interface connecting me to the internet, but disabling it does not seem to change much. I'll try that, I'll first check if I can quickly run the IRC client somewhere else with screen
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09:19<rocio>ola
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09:20<jmlongo>Hola rocio ...
09:20<jmlongo>!es
09:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
09:20<rocio>alguien por aqui?
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09:21<rocio>#debian-es
09:22<rocio>olaa
09:22<jmlongo>te faltó el /join antes ;)
09:22<rocio>ya , mala suerte la mia
09:22<jmlongo>tendría que ser "/join #debian-es"
09:23<jmlongo>la suerte va y viene (‾⌣‾)♉
09:23<rocio>jajajjaja un poco
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09:24<rocio>alguien que hable
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09:26<rocio>vaya aburrimientoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
09:27<rocio>#debian
09:28<rocio>alguien que hable ?
09:28<grove>Stop speaking spanish in here!
09:28<grove>!es
09:28<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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09:57<krymzonn>grawity: I've done some more testing with all other interfaces turned off, connected only to the DNS+DHCP machine directly, looking at dhcpdump. Specifying the server (nslookup a.mytld 10.1.2.34) it all looks normal, and when I don't specify the server, tcpdump registers _nothing_, there is no query sent, and nslookup eventually times out
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10:01<krymzonn>also, I get as expected (from tcpdump) DHCP ACK: (...)Domain-Name-Server Option 6, length 4: 10.1.2.34
10:02<krymzonn>I'll check if specifying domain and search can help with it
10:02<blast007>is the DNS server getting put into /etc/resolv.conf automatically?
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10:03<blast007>(on a linux system - not sure what Mac OS does)
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10:07<krymzon>that's actually quite interesting. It does not for this server, but when I connect to the wifi, the router gets there. Perhaps it needs the domain parameter. I'm not too familiar with MacOS myself, but it seems that while resolv.conf is not really used, it is updated and can be a useful indication
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10:32<jhutchins>krymzon-r: Sounds like the dhcp server might not be sending the DNS info.
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11:09<marcushh777>hi all
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11:16<krymzon>jhutchins, and all: Thank you very much. The DNS info was being sent. I have now found a fix, apparently the 'option routers' (and likely 'option domain-name') also needs to be set for the DNS option to actually take effect on the client
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11:19<krymzon>thanks to grawity for suggesting I look at those
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14:50<suchmystery>hi again. i've installed debian stretch onto my hp nc2400 (1.2ghz core duo, 2gb of ram) laptop, and now i've been trying to get wifi working (my wifi card is the intel corporation pro/wireless 3945abg [golan] one.) i've already installed firmware-iwlwifi and wicd on my laptop, and used the modprobe command for the correct module (iwl3945), yet when i run iwconfig, there is no wlan0 interface, only eth0 and lo. i've tried s
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14:53<jmcnaught>suchmystery: your message was truncated, it was probably longer than the maximum character length allowed on IRC. Also please use #debian-next for testing support :)
14:54<suchmystery>again? huh, pidgin doesn't limit my character length for me. thanks for the pointers though, i'll go to #debian-next. thanks
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14:55<jmcnaught>suchmystery: it got cut off after "only eth0 and lo"
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14:56<suchmystery>thanks
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15:00<ryouma>i just ran axi-cache, and its "more terms" was a complete sentence: "More terms: clarify strangely causes lint beginner's caveats intuitively"
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20:18<AirPlanes>hi
20:18<AirPlanes>yay im unban
20:18<AirPlanes>im reading the docs
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20:23<AirPlanes>hi
20:23<AirPlanes>debian installer is like the iso?
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21:29<seanthegeek>What does dfsg-2 at the end of a package version mean?
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21:38<jmcnaught>seanthegeek: that's part of the 'debian revision' portion of the version. dfsg stands for Debian Free Software Guidelines
21:38<jmcnaught>seanthegeek: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version and https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
21:39<Denise>does anyone here use make or g++?
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21:40<Denise>i just installed both on my computer, how do i use make?
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21:43<somiaj>Denise: if you have a make file, then you just run 'make' or 'make target', if you don't have a make file and just want to learn to program, make may not be the best place to start
21:43<somiaj>Denise: there are program specific channels on irc.freenode.net
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21:45<alumno>hola
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21:47<Denise>somiaj, the point is, i want to make a make file
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21:47<Denise>thanks somiaj, i will try irc.freenode.net
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21:48<Denise>i found a sample here http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs193d/handouts/make.pdf
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21:51<somiaj>Denise: http://mrbook.org/blog/tutorials/make/ I found this looking for 'makefile howto'
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21:55<Denise>thanks again somiaj!
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21:56<Denise>somiaj, i am taking a class in c++ , i used eclipse for my first homework assignment, the instructor uses debian, i want to run the cpp program using g++ on my other computer
21:57<Denise>all the cool kids use Debian
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22:02<sney>Denise: the "learn c the hard way" online book has some good Makefile basics
22:03<Denise>thanks sney
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22:17<Denise>how do i copy a file on a usb drive to my documents directory?
22:17<Denise>how do i address the drive?
22:18<Denise>let me google it
22:21<Denise>i found it
22:21<Denise>mount the usb, copy the file using the path using dmesg to find the usb drive' unmount and ync
22:21<Denise>sync too
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22:44<martin_>hello. can someone help me in dual booting a computer with windows and debian in separate hard drives? as of now, windows always boot first. i want to be able choose which os to boot.
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22:48<marcushh777>What boot-loader are you using?
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22:50<martin_>i think grub. is there any other alternative?
22:50<awal1>martin_, separate hard drives you mean exactly?
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22:50<awal1>one of the machine and an external one?
22:50<marcushh777>Grub2 is the best... but grub works fine... you place the OSes in grub in the order you want them...
22:51<martin_>avail, inside the computer case, 2 hard drives.
22:51<marcushh777>...then you have grub pause ... so many seconds (minutes) so that you can cursor down to the OS you want
22:52<martin_>marcush, how do i open grub and work with it?
22:52<awal1>martin_, just edit /etc/default/grub and change some parametrs there
22:52<marcushh777>either with the grub editor at bootup, or in the config files in /boot/grub
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22:52<martin_>avail, and that will force the computer to use boot up in grub menu instead of directly to windows?
22:53<marcushh777>yes...
22:53<marcushh777>you can list gnu+linux debian for instance first... it will wait for thrity seconds, if you choose windows fine, otherwise it will pick gnu+linux debian
22:53<marcushh777>been doing that for years
22:53<awal1>martin_, increase time out , then you have more time for select debian entry or change the dafault =
22:53<marcushh777>yes
22:54<awal1>first entry is =
22:54<marcushh777>see... if you have a long enough time out, then it doesn't matter what order they're in
22:54<awal1>is 0
22:54<martin_>ahh, ok. so increasing the time out from 0 to like 10 for example.
22:54<awal1> ^
22:54<marcushh777>yes
22:54<marcushh777>or 30
22:54<marcushh777>or 60
22:55<awal1>martin_, in your grub whta is listed first?
22:55<martin_>ok. after making the change, the do update-grub in terminal, correct?
22:55<awal1>should be debian
22:55<marcushh777>yup
22:55<marcushh777>if you don't update-grub it won't read its config data again
22:56<awal1>a confortable way is make X entry in grub menu as default
22:56<marcushh777>You update the configs, then update-grub updates the boot
22:56<marcushh777>I always make the Windows option (at the bottom) selectable only
22:57<marcushh777>IF I don't tell it to go into windows, it ain't going there
22:57<marcushh777>and, heh, it hasn't gone there since 1998 (not for any official anyways
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22:58<martin_>ok. i will try to config grub file. thanks for the help.
22:58<awal1>if debian gnu linux is the second line in your grub menu just change grub_default=1 , so debian will be selected first (example), martin_
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22:58<marcushh777>best of luck
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22:59<martin_>avail, if i change the value of default to 1 as you said, the computer will boot up with grub menu, correct?
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23:00<martin_>i believe the default value is 0.
23:00<awal1>martin_, if you have installed windows then debian, debian entry in grub menu should be listed first
23:00<awal1>what is listed exactly in your grub?
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23:01<martin_>actually, i was helping my neighbor with it. it did not list Windows there. maybe i need to do a screen shot.
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23:03<martin_>what i did was i went into terminal, did the os-probe there, and it saw Windows. then i update the grub but it didn't work.
23:03<martin_>anyways, i will try to change default value to 1 and see what will happen.
23:03<awal1>martin_, anyway, you have two choice increase grub_timeout to say 10, then you have time for select what you want. or count the entries in the grub menu , if debian is the second line so grub_default=1
23:04<awal1>first line (entry) is 0
23:05<awal1>so grub will select and boot the second entry by default
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23:05<martin_>ok. thank you awal1. i will give it a try. thank you.
23:05<awal1>nothing complicated
23:05<awal1>update-grub when you done
23:05<martin_>good bye for now and again thank you.
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23:09<awal1>trying to get xmobar working with xfce. xmobar is launched just fine but it's "behind" the desktop, it's invisible. Any clue?
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23:14<marcushh777>awal1: try launching as a child of the desktop... or launch with the display option to open on the desktop?
23:15<marcushh777>or launch (just for testing) within a windowed terminal ON the desktop
23:15<marcushh777><how the hell could it be behind the desktop? does it not need the window manager and X>
23:16<marcushh777>Does it work with any other window manager other than xfce?
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23:20<Denise>i put my usb drive in the usb slot and a menu came up, i clicked and window came up, i see all of the files on the usb drive, i clicked on the the file i want sent to 'home', but i can't find the correct home, any help is appreciated
23:21<sney>!fundamentals
23:21<dpkg>You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/ Then, read the Debian Reference at https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
23:21<jmcnaught>Denise: if you open a new file manager window it will probably start you in your home directory, and you can probably drag and drop files between the two windows
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23:26<awal1>marcushh77, yes, xmobar works with all other wm's I use, the issue I have is exactly as this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=102651
23:26<awal1>marcushh777, ^
23:27<awal1>I dont see any display option for xmobar
23:28<vortek>were can i get a list of the default denian kernel ooptions? like if it uses grsec?
23:29<sney>vortek: grsec kernel is packaged separately
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23:40<Denise>thanks jmcnaught
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23:50<marcushh777>awal1: ok, have you tried to set the xmobar to the front?
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23:52<awal1>marcushh777, how
23:52<marcushh777>awal1: ... like, you should be able to set 'always on top' by clicking on the top of the window (right click)
23:52<marcushh777>or move to front, or something like that
23:52<marcushh777>or move to top
23:53<marcushh777>the problem description indicates that it is a piece of the xfce space, just at the bottom...
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23:54<marcushh777>... at any rate its a programming error xmobar
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23:55<awal1>marcushh777, xmobar doesn't interact with mouse or keyboard at all with its default/normal config
23:55<awal1>probably with a sofisticated hacking yes
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23:56<awal1>marcushh777, you know what is xmobar? :P
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23:58<awal1>i think the problem is related with multi monitor....
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