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04:16 | <twb> | You guys know about resolvconf, right? |
04:16 | <twb> | Can I tell resolvconf that when dhclient tries to write to resolv.conf, it should instead write to some other file? |
04:17 | <twb> | I want resolv.conf to point to localhost, and then the local dnsmasq to point to the upstream resolver. |
04:17 | <twb> | Currently I'm doing that by patching dhclient-enter-hooks.d/make_resolv_conf, which is HORRIBLE |
04:18 | <twb> | http://sprunge.us/WZHe |
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06:00 | <SynrG> | thanks for many kind words so far upon my retirement. i'll make a single reply later in the day. as to my likelihood of attending DC17, we'll see ... if time and money allow, I might. no promises, though. |
06:00 | <SynrG> | argh, ECHAN :) |
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06:01 | <SynrG> | anyway, retiring as DD doesn't mean I'm going anywhere. i'll be around |
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06:02 | <SynrG> | -> #debian-offtopic if anyone has anything they'd like to say about this |
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07:24 | <_0> | what's open webp? |
07:24 | <_0> | what opens webp? |
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07:27 | <grawity> | apt-cache rdepends libwebp5 |
07:27 | <duclicsic> | _0: have you been unable to find an application through a web search? |
07:28 | <duclicsic> | google developed it, maybe they provide some tools for viewing them |
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07:31 | <_0> | thanks, all,deal! |
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08:32 | <petn-randall> | _0: Without checking, I'd guess vlc works. |
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09:04 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm trying to get apcupsd running but it fails to start - giving the systemctl status output here: http://paste.debian.net/780395/ - I can't find an error |
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09:05 | <EmleyMoor> | Ah, hold on, it may be a typo |
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09:05 | <EmleyMoor> | Yes, sorted, scrub that |
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09:31 | <xamainstall> | hi people |
09:31 | <xamainstall> | thank you to have me here |
09:32 | <xamainstall> | does anyone knows how to find an gui to make an iso with installer |
09:32 | <xamainstall> | please |
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09:32 | <blast007> | an installer for what? |
09:33 | <xamainstall> | for my system |
09:33 | <petn-randall> | Hi xamainstall, what do you want to do exactly? You're looking for a GUI to put the install image on a device? |
09:33 | <blast007> | no, I mean, what would it be installing? |
09:33 | <xamainstall> | for an distro of my system |
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09:33 | <blast007> | what distro? |
09:33 | <xamainstall> | to give to friends and who knows |
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09:33 | <xamainstall> | debian please |
09:34 | <blast007> | you're just trying to burn a Debian installer CD? |
09:34 | <petn-randall> | xamainstall: I'm not sure what you're asking for. Do you want a Debian installer? Or do you want to make your own distro? |
09:34 | <xamainstall> | yes but need to make the iso of my system |
09:34 | <blast007> | just download the ISO |
09:35 | <xamainstall> | well i want to make the distro my self |
09:35 | <blast007> | why? |
09:35 | <xamainstall> | well i make some changes and think is nice so want to give some |
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09:36 | <petn-randall> | xamainstall: In that case you have to find a way yourself how to spindle a distro. We only support Debian in here, not other distros, and not making other distros. |
09:36 | <xamainstall> | can anyone help me i try in the google but they dont have nothing |
09:37 | <xamainstall> | need hel p please |
09:37 | <blast007> | so you're wanting to make something that isn't Debian? or you're just wanting to include extra/different packages on the install disc? |
09:37 | <xamainstall> | no it will be debian with some packages from gnu |
09:38 | <blast007> | so not debian |
09:38 | <SynrG> | if by "of my system" you mean "make an install of all the things that i have installed on the system in front of me", then this isn't a very good way to achieve the result. instead, look at the debian installation guide appendix on preseeding |
09:38 | <SynrG> | i mean to say, there are tools that will clone a system to another system ... |
09:38 | <SynrG> | not a great approach, because you don't really exercise much control over the process. it's not easily reproducible |
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09:38 | <xamainstall> | preseeding its the word thanks SynrG |
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09:39 | <SynrG> | !preseeding |
09:39 | <dpkg> | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
09:39 | <SynrG> | !install guide |
09:39 | <dpkg> | The Installation Guide for Debian 8 "Jessie" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/installmanual . See also <errata>, <jessie release notes>. |
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09:40 | <xamainstall> | ok Thanks everyone |
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10:09 | <markus> | Please fill out survey http://elektra.limequery.org/625192 about the why and how of configuration. € 40 cent donation will go to SPI (supporting debian) if you choose last question accordingly. |
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10:14 | <EmleyMoor> | I'm trying to run apcupsd to access my UPS from another machine on my network - note that one does in fact do it OK already - but on the machine in question it's silently failing to start. Why? |
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10:16 | <joepublic> | How to get good 3d performance in X (MATE desktop, compton compositor), debian testing, with two video cards? I have an R7 250X and an R7 240 (radeon driver) and using either one performance is terrific, but using both, performance drops to so-so. |
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10:18 | <petn-randall> | joepublic: stretch support is in #debian-next, you'll have better luck asking there. |
10:18 | <joepublic> | petn-randall, point taken, thanks. |
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10:20 | <joepublic> | I suspect the strategies here are not specific to stretch vs. jessie, nor even debian vs. other linuces, and if someone here has that bit of knowledge I am after, I would love to know it. |
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10:23 | <gorgolath> | hi,i got a midi transmit problem that i can not resolve for the moment ,i am trying to use a windows software with wine .but that it not working ..any help will be received.thanks |
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10:24 | <roken_troll> | Ave ! |
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10:26 | <EmleyMoor> | How can I track down why apcupsd isn't starting on one of my machines? I see no error, and if I run it manually it works, but trying to do service apcupsd start just returns. |
10:26 | <roken_troll> | Sur un serveur web, j'aimerais donner tous les droits sur le dossier /var/www à un utilisateur mais pa smoyen qu'il ai le moindre accès au dossier. J'ai nommer www-data comme groupe propriétaire, mis l'utilisateur toto dans le groupe, fait un lien symbolique de /var/www vers son home et rien à faire. |
10:26 | <petn-randall> | !fr |
10:26 | <dpkg> | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debianfr. |
10:27 | <roken_troll> | sorry |
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10:27 | <petn-randall> | roken_troll: No problem, you can either ask in #debianfr in french, or ask your question here again in english. |
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10:31 | <EmleyMoor> | Hmmm... a reinstall has sorted it |
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10:37 | <petn-randall> | EmleyMoor: Glad we could help on both occasions ;) |
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11:46 | <markus> | A friendly reminder: Please fill out survey http://elektra.limequery.org/625192 about the why and how of configuration. We hope you support our research! Thank you! |
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11:49 | <SynrG> | markus: while i appreciate your research may have value, even to Debian, soliciting survey-takers is not a support question and is off-topic for #debian |
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11:50 | <SynrG> | i'm not sure where i'd direct you to legitimately collect survey-takers ... |
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11:51 | <SynrG> | the debian community is very broad, though, and there must be other places. |
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11:54 | <markus> | SynrG: yeah, there is no place where surveys are welcomed, which is also understandable. Sorry for disturbing the channel |
11:55 | <SynrG> | no problem. best of luck |
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12:16 | <user_> | hello |
12:16 | <user_> | is evry bodey ok |
12:16 | <user_> | cuz im not |
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12:20 | <mirana> | why not? |
12:20 | <Sicelo> | left already :) |
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12:22 | <mirana> | oh... good :P |
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14:28 | <michal> | Hi. I would like to encrypt disk via luks. At the moment I have sw raid1 (md1) as a pv and lvm on top of it. I wonder - shall I encrypt lvm and put fs on this luks device or encrypt md device and then use it as a pv for lvm ? what is the recommended order ? Thank you. |
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14:32 | <MeatHammer> | Can I use QEMU to boot a windows partition on the same physical disk as debian? |
14:36 | <kritzefitz> | MeatHammer: I don't see why not. Is there any special reason to believe otherwise? |
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14:40 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: Im very new to VMs :) Do I need to create an ISO image of the windows volume to accomplish this or can I just tell QEMU to use a device/partition? Or maybe you have a link? |
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14:44 | <kritzefitz> | MeatHammer: It should be possible to tell QEMU to use the partition directly, i.e. qemu-system-<arch> /dev/sdxN (use the appropriate partition of course). AFAIK qemu should use the partition just fine. |
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14:45 | <kritzefitz> | But I don't know if Windows will throw up if you run it in a virtual machine after you installed it physical hardware. |
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14:48 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: is windows 7 partition corruption a concern if I virtualize it inside debian? |
14:48 | <MeatHammer> | nm saw ur comment |
14:50 | <kritzefitz> | If the partition is corrupted, Windows will probably have the same problems with the partition inside the VM as it would on real hardware. |
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14:50 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: oh no its fine currently. just reading up on VMing an actual partition |
14:51 | <kritzefitz> | I'm afraid I don't understand the question correctly then. |
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14:52 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: ppl on the blogs be saying that you can do it but windows will either "barf" on activation key due to different hardware profile or will corrupt the NTFS/Win7 disk, or possibly just grub |
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14:55 | <kritzefitz> | I think I was mistaken before. In theory, you could tell QEMU to use the Windows 7 partition only, so the Guest OS (thus Windows) wouldn't be able to screw up any other parts of the disk. However, to the guest OS this would look like a disk without a partition table (as it is actually just one partition) and the OS would probably not boot at all. |
14:56 | <kritzefitz> | The remedy would be to use the whole disk (with all partitions) as the device for QEMU, but then the Guest is able to screw up the whole disk. |
14:56 | <kritzefitz> | I don't know if Windows will do this, but I personally wouldn't try on a productive system. |
14:56 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: by "whole disk" you mean debian partitions as well? |
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14:57 | <kritzefitz> | If your Debian partitions are on the same physical device as your Windows partition, yes. |
14:57 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: what might you suggest as an alternative to wine? a lightweight (haha!) windows vm? |
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14:59 | <kritzefitz> | I just dual boot Windows. That way it is still possible that Windows screws up, but the possibility is not so high that I would worry. But if you don't care for hardware acceleration, I would probably go for a VM instead. |
15:01 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: ya thats what Im doing now and the switch is quick but... i use some legacy windows software via USB-r232... i need something on linux for quick stuff |
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15:03 | <kritzefitz> | But if wine can't help you, I don't really see a better option than a VM. |
15:03 | <kritzefitz> | michal: I don't know if there is an option that is generally considered better. Putting luks on top of lvm means you have to encrypt every partition seperately, while it retains the freedom to extend the lvm to multiple physical disks without much hassle. (to be continued...) |
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15:05 | <kritzefitz> | michal: Putting lvm on top of luks, means you only have one encryption key (if that's good or bad is up to you) and you can add new logical volumes easily without having to encrypt them separately, but as soon as you want to include another physical device, you have to setup a new luks partition on it and you need to have an encryption key for that one too, so you will basically need a passphrase for every physical device |
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15:08 | <kritzefitz> | (not actually physical devices, as you have a raid on them, but your raid goes as a physical device in this sense) |
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15:10 | <kritzefitz> | michal: If you are sure, you will not need more disk space than you currently have or you can extend you capacity at the raid level, lvm on top of luks is probably the easier way to go. |
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15:13 | <kritzefitz> | michal: If you want, you can also put lvm on your raid(s), make on big logical volume over all of them, put a luks container on that logical volume and put another lvm on that luks partition. This gives you all the advantages, but also has higher overhead and might be harder to maintain. |
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15:19 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: I would expect Windows to behave as if you'd installed it on one system, then moved the disk to a system with different hardware. |
15:19 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: Even if the real hardware is the same, the hardware it sees in a VM is not. |
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15:20 | <kritzefitz> | jhutchins: Sure, but I don't know how Windows behaves in that case. |
15:20 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: Not sure what allowances to make for the fact that qemu isn't a true vm. |
15:20 | <kritzefitz> | jhutchins: In what way is qemu no a true VM? |
15:20 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: I would 1) back up the whole disk, especially the windows partition, and 2) give it a shot. |
15:21 | <kritzefitz> | jhutchins: Tell MeatHammer, I'm not personally interested in that experiment :) |
15:21 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: Ah, got lost in the thread. |
15:21 | <MeatHammer> | kritzefitz: jhutchins im listening! |
15:22 | <MeatHammer> | go on... shout I use virtualbox instead of QEMU> |
15:22 | <MeatHammer> | should and ? |
15:22 | <jhutchins> | MeatHammer: You should make backups and try things. |
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15:22 | <kritzefitz> | I'm still interested in why QEMU is not a real VM, though. |
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15:23 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: qemu is an emulator, rather than a virtualizer. |
15:23 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: It emulates the environment rather than a machine. |
15:24 | <jhutchins> | kritzefitz: subtle. |
15:24 | <kritzefitz> | jhutchins: With environment you mean the devices? |
15:24 | <MeatHammer> | does qemu use lxc containers or something? |
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15:27 | <kritzefitz> | jhutchins: Okay, I was reading shortly about the subject. From what I understood using QEMU with KVM should be virtualisation. |
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16:41 | <mdx0> | hello, I like to install debian64bit on a netbook but at the moment I only have 32bit on it. the problem is I can't boot from the preparid usb-stick with the 64 bit version. Now, my is observation is to try to boot from GRUB from the 32bit version and start the installer. somebody have some advice for me? |
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16:42 | <nikos_> | mdx0: are you sure that your netbook has a 64bit proccessor? |
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16:45 | <mdx0> | it's a lenovo ideapad s100 I believe but I'm not sure. secure boot is off. |
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16:47 | <mdx0> | it should support 64bit, |
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17:00 | <nikos_> | if you have less than 4gb of ram i'd suggest that you stick with the 32bit version |
17:02 | <nikos_> | otherwise, if you have a windows machine download rufus and make a bootable usb. be aware if your netbook has UEFI or BIOS, and even a GTP partition scheme. you can adjust these settings accordingly in rufus |
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17:02 | <mdx0> | nikos, if you like to help me, please take a look to this, here is the same problem: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/42h4ay/linux_on_an_intel_atom_z3735f_based_device/ |
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17:04 | <mdx0> | You need an image with a 32 bit EFI bootloader. The processor is 64 bit but the EFI is 32 bit. Once you get a 32 bit EFI GRUB to work you can boot a 64 bit kernel. |
17:04 | <nikos_> | try to create a bootable usb with the rufus program |
17:04 | <nikos_> | do you know if you have GPT or MBR partition scheme? |
17:05 | <mdx0> | I haven't a win machine |
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17:06 | <mdx0> | I made last week with help from here these boot stick |
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17:07 | <nikos_> | well seems like rufus would probably solve the problem, try to gain access to a win pc and download it for free |
17:07 | <nikos_> | or maybe run it with wine? |
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17:09 | <mdx0> | before I kicked win10 from this netbook, I have allready tried this with rufus but only the 32bit version was booted |
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17:11 | <mdx0> | I have with help, from here, created a usb-stick with 64bit |
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17:12 | <mdx0> | I have a full installed 32 bit version with debian on the netbook |
17:13 | <mdx0> | I have also a GRUB menu.....can I start from grub the installer from the stick? |
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17:15 | <mdx0> | nikos, a I believe it's a MBR partition scheme |
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17:16 | <jhutchins> | mdx0: You might be able to configure grub to do that, but the usual procedure is to let the isolinux bootloader run directly off the flash drive. |
17:16 | <mdx0> | sorry, if I get the other pepole on nerves |
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17:17 | * | jhutchins scrolls back further... |
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17:18 | <mdx0> | the [U]EFI only can 32-bit |
17:18 | <jhutchins> | nikos_: The problem with running 32b is that a lot of projects are dropping support. |
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17:21 | <mdx0> | what I should do now? probably the stick what we create last week, here, isn't ..... |
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17:23 | <mdx0> | in web stand: Create a UEFI boot partition on a GPT-formatted flashdisk |
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17:23 | <mdx0> | then: Install 32-bit (IA32) UEFI Syslinux on the flashdisk |
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17:23 | <mdx0> | then: Copy all files from a 64-bit Ubuntu install DVD to the flashdisk (WARNING: There's a hidden directory you must copy as well - .disk). |
17:23 | <mdx0> | Configure UEFI Syslinux to boot Ubuntu (there's a file called txt.cfg on the install DVD which has the confifuration.) |
17:24 | <mdx0> | ouch |
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17:25 | <mdx0> | :-) |
17:25 | <nikos_> | jhutchins: can't agree more, but a netbook might struggle with 64vers of programs/os |
17:26 | <nikos_> | mdx0: i can't help you on this one as i hadn't experienced something like that in the past, i'd still suggest giving rufus a try |
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17:30 | <mdx0> | nikos, I made this allready, with rufus but doesn't work... |
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17:31 | <themill> | rufus is known to break the image rather than simply copy it |
17:32 | <nikos> | pinged the wrong person mdx0 ;) |
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17:35 | <mdx0> | if someone comes an idea in mind, please let me know, I'm still here |
17:36 | <Sicelo> | silly suggestion .. TFTP boot? i've never dealt with UEFI, so tbh i don't really know if that helps. |
17:36 | <jhutchins> | mdx0: Does it not have a BIOS option? |
17:37 | <mdx0> | secure boot is off |
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17:40 | <themill> | I have a vague memory of a special image with 32bit EFI and 64bit installation being made. |
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17:42 | <mdx0> | what is with this method to boot from the GRUB |
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17:55 | <vook> | mdx0: you're using IA32 hardware? |
17:56 | <vook> | you should probably be using the amd64 image - ia32 is not going to be on that laptop of yours. i386 != ia32 |
17:57 | <mdx0> | vook, can't tell you at the moment, I have to look but it's a Atom Z3735F processor |
17:57 | <nikos_> | goodbye buddies! :) |
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17:58 | <vook> | mdx0: if you really want 32 bit, you should find an i386 image. |
17:58 | <vook> | or i686 rather |
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17:59 | <mdx0> | vook, the ia32 is on this netbook but I like to install the amd64 image |
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18:02 | <mdx0> | vook, I don't like the 32 bit |
18:02 | <mdx0> | I like amd64 |
18:02 | <mdx0> | #_# |
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18:16 | <awal1> | mdx0, are you sure your cpu is 32 bit and no 64 bit compatible? |
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18:17 | <mdx0> | I think yes, what I see is that it is a known problem |
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18:17 | <awal1> | mdx0, you may want to paste (paste.debian.net) the output of grep flags /proc/cpuinfo |
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18:19 | <mdx0> | yes, I have turn it on |
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18:20 | <awal1> | mdx0, where is your output? :D |
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18:22 | <mdx0> | it takes a moment |
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18:22 | <awal1> | it takes a few seconds :P |
18:23 | <awal1> | open a terminal and run cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags . copy and paste in paste.debian.net |
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18:26 | <mdx0> | I haven't at the moment confirued and the pc isn't yet connected |
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18:27 | <awal1> | anyway, simplifying things: if you say "lm" in the output, that means your cpu is 64 bit compatible, mdx0 |
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18:29 | <awal1> | if that's the case, and if your machine have uefi, not bios, use the amd64 iso image |
18:29 | <awal1> | only amd64 have support for uefi |
18:30 | <awal1> | regarding jessie release, i386 also have support for uefi machines, but I havent tried it |
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18:34 | <mdx0> | awal1, I execute cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags but were I exactly look to? |
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18:38 | <mdx0> | near the end stand in the output "lm" |
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18:42 | <mdx0> | awal1, that's strange. on it is a i386 debian installed but the amd64 dosen't boot |
18:44 | <awal1> | mdx0, better paste the whole output |
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18:44 | <mdx0> | yes, but it can take 5 min |
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18:45 | <vag> | hi |
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18:46 | <mdx0> | I have to copy it to a stick, how I can put the output in a file? |
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18:46 | <mdx0> | okay# |
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18:48 | <awal1> | mdx0, why so long? you dont have X/DE? just in Console (tty...)? |
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18:50 | <mdx0> | tell me please how I can copy the output to a file |
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18:52 | <awal1> | cat /proc/cpuinfi | grep flags > ~/yourfilename |
18:52 | <awal1> | mdx0, ^ |
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18:54 | <mekeor> | my sound doesn't work :( i'm having problems with sound since a few weeks. sometimes only speaker work, sometimes only headphones, sometimes both, now neither. the thing is, i don't know at all how to find the "bug". :( |
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18:57 | <awal1> | mdx0, dinner time here, see ya... If you have problems pasting, install the package called pastebinit and run pastebinit -a mdx0 /proc/cpuinfo , you get an url adress of your paste |
18:57 | <mdx0> | yes |
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18:58 | <mdx0> | http://paste.debian.net/780481 |
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19:00 | <awal1> | mdx0, faster with pastebinit, eh? :P |
19:01 | <mdx0> | you can't imagine the keybord and the mousepad wasn't configured and not connected |
19:01 | <awal1> | mdx0, regarding that output, yes your cpu is 64bit compatible |
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19:04 | <awal1> | mdx0, is you machine uefi or bios? |
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19:05 | <mdx0> | I guess it's UEFI because in the menu standing something with UEFI |
19:05 | <mdx0> | and secure boot what I have adjust to off |
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19:06 | <awal1> | ok |
19:06 | <mdx0> | I prepair a stick with a amd64 bit image |
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19:08 | <awal1> | mdx0, my suggestion is: download a debian amd64 iso image, burn it well, reset your uefi to default settings (call it bios if you want), disable ONLY secure boot, and boot your debian cd/usb. you should be ok |
19:08 | <mdx0> | with dd if=iso of=dev/sdb |
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19:09 | <awal1> | burn it as you know :P |
19:09 | <mdx0> | I haven't a crdom device on this netbook |
19:10 | <awal1> | long time I havent used cli for burn, not sure right now :D |
19:10 | <mdx0> | awal1, no problem if you don't have time we could finished it tomorrow if you like or somebody else help me out...sorry |
19:10 | <mdx0> | for my lameness |
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19:12 | <awal1> | I'm more familiar with wodim |
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19:13 | <mdx0> | okay I reset the default settings and disable only secure boot but I should be all so adjusted |
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19:14 | <awal1> | when your iso image is burned copy it to your usb and boot with it, thats all |
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19:15 | <mdx0> | I only can tell it once more I have done the i386 image and did it with the amd64, the amd64 not boot because the UEFI only can 32 bit |
19:15 | <awal1> | if you have problems, just ask here or in other debian channel (#debian in freenode server) |
19:16 | <mdx0> | okay, thanks for support and your |
19:17 | <awal1> | mdx0, I can't be much of help in that case, no clue about differences between uefi 32/64 bit |
19:17 | <mdx0> | troubles |
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19:23 | <mdx0> | I did it so but it don't boot |
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19:32 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | hey does anyone know anything about debugging boot problems? |
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19:34 | <patron> | what if they did? |
19:34 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | I need help debuggin my file server and I don't know very much about systemd and how it logs stuff |
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19:36 | <patron> | what leads you to believe it is a systemd related problem? |
19:36 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | I dont necessarily, I just haven't the foggiest idea how to find the problem |
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19:40 | <patron> | describe the problem in some detail , maybe someone can help |
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19:40 | <patron> | i gtg |
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19:41 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | Hey guys I'm having trouble with my file server that I use to share a couple of zfs datasets by way of samba. |
19:42 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | Checking what I think is the boot log leads me to believe my root file system is being mounted read only |
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19:42 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | because I see things like "Failed to start Copy rules generated while the root was ro" |
19:43 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | and "cannot mount '/tank': failed to create mountpoint" |
19:44 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | I don't know much about booting so I'm not sure if this is the case or not |
19:44 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | Anyway to try and fix this I have 1) |
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19:44 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | booted off live cd and run fsck on my /, var and /home paritions |
19:45 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | checked the fstab to make sure the uuids for the /, var and home partitions are cited correctly |
19:47 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | So my shares are not working and I think that something is busted during boot that is causing my / to be mounted ro |
19:47 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | I dont know enough about the boot log to know for sure, thats my guess |
19:48 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | I also wondering if my initramfs doesn't have the right modules and perhaps this is causing my problems |
19:49 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | How would I check if the initramfs has the correct modules for the current mb? |
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19:50 | <mark> | heya |
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19:51 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | ok unrelated question, is there some way of chaning my alias in this chat? |
19:51 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | the one I have is the default from the chat cient and I don't know much about irc |
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19:54 | <blast007> | circ-user-MVi2i: you can use '/nick SomethingHere' to change your name |
19:54 | <circ-user-MVi2i> | cool |
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19:54 | <kommisar> | ok thanks for that, the user name was just bothering me |
19:55 | <kommisar> | so anyone got any ideas on how to determine if my / is being mounted ro on boot? |
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20:02 | <kommisar> | ok maybe I will try later |
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