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00:14<marnold>does anyone know how to use xmodmap to fire dbus messages
00:16<marnold>such that a key combination is fires a specific message when pressed
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00:34<grawity>you don't use xmodmap for that
00:35<grawity>you use something like xbindkeys or sxhkd
00:35<grawity>map a key to `gdbus call ...` or `busctl call ...` or `dbus-send ...`, whichever you fancy
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00:44<marnold>knew i was doing something wrong with that
00:44<marnold>thanks
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03:19<keeley>I "dd"ed a iso file into usb drive. I want to extract the iso back and verify its checksum. How to do it?
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03:21<jm_>!verify iso
03:21<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD/DVD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of «md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum». You should compare this md5sum to the checksum for the ISO image on the mirror. See also <check iso signature>.
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03:22<keeley>dpkg: It's a 8gb drive, and the iso occupies only 4 gb.
03:22<dpkg>keeley: are you smoking crack?
03:23<keeley>I lost the iso file and I have only the usb
03:23<themill>then you'll need the exact size of the iso image and replace that for the head -c value
03:24<keeley>I have the md5 and shasum of the iso
03:25<keeley>how do I find the exact size of the iso image? Is it the size of /dev/sdb1, the partition in which the iso is dd'd
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03:29<jm_>no since it contains MBR too
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03:32<keeley>the size of /dev/sdb from the start till the final sector in /dev/sdb1 ?
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03:33<jm_>possibly, not sure
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03:39<keeley>I want to extract the iso from the usb for future use. Is that possible?
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03:42<grindhold>how about just "dd"ing it back? you did somthing like dd if=/path/to/my.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=whatever . just switch if and of and you should get the exact image back. and of course you can run md5sum on that.
03:42<jm_>if I look at some ISO files with isoinfo and use volume size reported it comes back with the right number, but for some it doesn't
03:42<grindhold>not sure if troll
03:43<jm_>of course it's possible, you'll just need to find the magic number
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03:45<danielsh>grindhold, you won't get the same image back unless you truncate the result at the right offset
03:45<danielsh>easiest way to get the size is probably to check the ftp mirrors' directory listing
03:45<jm_>granted, that approach will still work as long as you are not dealing with smaller USB devices
03:46<grindhold>derp. you are right. it's an usb-stick after all, not a cd/
03:46<grindhold>dvd
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04:02<keeley>danielsh: how do I see ftp mirror's listing?
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04:06<grove>Is there a better/more official way of changing when apticron actually runs than touching /var/lib/apticron/cron_run ?
04:06<danielsh>do what you would do to download an image, but instead of downloading, just check the remote file's size (to the byte)
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04:10<keeley>I already booted from the usb many times, will that change its contents thus having a different checksum?
04:12<jm_>grove: interesting, man page mentiones /etc/cron.d/apticron
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04:14<grove>jm_: That's just the definition of the cron job, it runs `/usr/sbin/apticron --cron` each hour, but the --cron makes it effectively run only once a day (I haven't yet figured out why, but the man page says so - I guess there are other uses that I haven't discovered)
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04:18<jm_>grove: yes, and that file calls it with --cron, so you could edit everything there? I mean when to run and how
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04:26<grove>jm_: My question then is if that is better/worse/more official.
04:27<jm_>grove: I would say editing a config file is a much better option than messing with it's timestamp file, also README.Debian mentions to use /etc/cron.daily/apt or cron-apt for more complex setups
04:27<jm_>its too
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04:35<grove>jm_: But it's hardly a more advanced setup, I just want it to run in the morning instead of in the late afternoon
04:36<jm_>grove: ahh so if you delete the ts file at the right moment it should run the next hour cron job is scheduled at
04:37<jm_>or simply change when cron job is run and remove --cron, that's what I would do (the other approach is too fiddly as it might break on reboots etc.)
04:39<grove>jm_: Reboots is a really good argument
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04:44<buslique>i want to install windows 10. which version is better?
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04:48<storge>...
04:48<Anarka>just wait for windows 11
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05:37<alexis>I am getting a error message about missing firmware everytime I boot. Can anyone help me identify the missing firmware? I don't know where to look for
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05:39<jm_>if you provide exact message someone might be able to help
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05:40<alexis>It happens during the boot, it is only for one second. I don't know the exact message. Is something like "no firmware for rtl<something>"
05:40<alexis>is there a command to list missing firmware, or something like that?
05:41<jm_>use dmesg to read it
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05:49<jm_>also, most warnings about missing rtl firmware can be ignored (if it's for your ethernet NIC)
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05:55<alexis>I think it is for the NIC
05:55<alexis>I searched the dmesg output
05:55<alexis>and the only rtl things related to the NIC
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05:57<SynrG>if you're not experiencing problems, you don't need it
05:58<jm_>maybe journalctl will show the missing firmware message then
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05:58<guddini>hi dudes
05:59<guddini>who can help me
05:59<guddini>i've a proble with kali
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06:00<jm_>!kali
06:00<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
06:00<jm_>go there for help
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06:02<guddini>thanks
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07:08<JiiKoo>Hey, while installing jessie and during tasksel I can choose to install GNOME that won't be installed by default
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07:09<JiiKoo>there is also "Debian desktop environment" that will be installed by default
07:10<JiiKoo>what's the difference? this is a netinst live USB by the way.
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07:12<blast007>JiiKoo: if you don't pick a specific one, it would install Gnome
07:14<jm_>Debian desktop environment is gnome + a few other stuff
07:15<JiiKoo>Ok thanks :-)
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09:14<bzimmerly>Personal opinion query; what is your favorite command-line tool? (I like xargs.)
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09:29<peter1138>hmm, weird, clamav picking up a CVE in /usr/share/doc/python-libxml2/examples/reader2.py
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09:30<peter1138>CVE-2013-3860-1, which relates to Microsoft .NET... strange.
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09:34<cat6>pepperflash is just as much of a security risk as flashplayer-nonfree right? or am I just being paranoid if I'm only ever going to use flash for youtube? (get better performance using pepperflash on chromium than html5)
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09:36<bzimmerly>I simply download the Youtube videos I want to watch with youtube-dl and watch them offline with something like Totem.
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09:37<petn-randall>cat6: Performance of youtube never was an issue for me, and I'm not using flash.
09:37<ansgar>cat6: If you use flash, you can't be paranoid.
09:38<bzimmerly>ansgar: So true. ;)
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09:38<grove>bzimmerly: I do the same, also saves us from commercials
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09:39<bzimmerly>grove: They added the commercials long after my habit was set. I was SO surprised to see them accidently once.
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09:53<grove>bzimmerly: Me too, I mostly wrote that to tell others about another advantage of the approach
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10:34<jj86_>i am having trouble with rtl8723be driver on a new debian 8.5 laptop. No networks are found. I installed firmware-realtek and rebooted.
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10:36<jj86_>the rtl8723be module is loaded in lsmod
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10:40<narcan>jj86_: rtl8723be seems to have some issues, see this french page (you can use google translate) https://angristan.fr/resoudre-les-problemes-avec-le-module-wifi-rtl8723be-sous-linux/
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10:41<narcan>it says you must to build the module from a git sources
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10:42<narcan>https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/tree/master/rtl8723be
10:42<narcan>you can maybe try it
10:42<jj86_>narcan: ok, i'll remove the firmware-realtek package first
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11:09<jj86_>narcan: it's working! I also entered wlan0 in the "wireless adapter" field in wicd (using lxde). Maybe that would have fixed it in the first place. I did some research before installing and the trl8723be problems should be fixed in kernel 3.16. Anyway always good to use the latest driver. Thanks alot for the help!
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11:10<narcan>jj86_: :) you are welcome
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11:14<xamaem7deben>need help cant find an gui to make an iso with installer of my system
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13:17<tanushka>всем привет
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13:19<tanushka>тут так много народу и никто не общаяется? ))
13:20<tanushka>hi
13:20<tanushka>i need help )
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13:21<tanushka>hi
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13:23<zyley>!ru
13:23<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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13:24<tanushka>ok
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14:18<KindofBlue>How can I figure out which additional packages I installed to my wheezy system ?
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14:20<mtn>KindofBlue: look in the apt log files?
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14:22<blast007>KindofBlue: this would show all manually installed packages (which still includes at least some of the base system packages): aptitude search --disable-columns -F '%p %V' '~i!~M!~v'
14:23<blast007>would at least be a starting point
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14:23<KindofBlue>I mean extra packages to standard blend
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17:47<juri_>ok, i've got to be doing something dumb..
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17:49<juri_>i just set up a chroot on an sd card, copied the chromeOS kernel, installed xdm, installed ngetty.. and upon reboot, X is crashing out, saying it cannot open /dev/tty7
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20:38<Arcade>Can I ask is there a person or chat I can contact about (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/eagle) one of the dep is using: libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0) which I thought was vulnerable?
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20:40<sney>Arcade: https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-2896
20:41<sney>Arcade: the >= 1.0.0 indicates that it needs _at least_ that version, but the libssl1.0.0 packages in debian that fit that criteria are not vulnerable as per the security link above
20:42<Arcade>Ok I assume it uses (1.0.1t) then. This package def could use a version update looks like
20:42<sney>,v libssl1.0.0
20:42<judd>Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u21; jessie-security: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u5; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.0.2h-1~bpo8+1
20:42<sney>it'll use whichever one of those ^ is in the debian version you are using.
20:42<Arcade>jessie*
20:43<sney>I don't know why the package name itself says 1.0.0 but that's just a red herring
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20:44<Arcade>sney, is there someone to contact for at least looking at updating versions.
20:45<Arcade>software*
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20:45<sney>do you mean a new version of eagle? talk to the maintainer, their contact info is linked on the packages.debian.org page you linked
20:46<sney>https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/eagle.html ah, but it looks like it's been abandoned
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20:47<sney>800ish users reported by popcon, it'd be worth adopting the package as long as the license hasn't changed whether debian can distribute it. that happens with non-free sometimes
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20:49<Arcade>https://cadsoft.io is the website* I may look into other tools I don't think there is much on using printed circuit board designs.
20:49<Arcade>software*
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20:52<Arcade>anyhow thank you.
20:52<sney>np
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20:56<CHCl3>hy!! i've got a doubt about tmux
20:57<CHCl3>with tmux -2 attach-session -t:1
20:57<CHCl3>u reconect to the window named 1
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20:58<CHCl3>but how do i reconect to a given pannel from that window if it's splited?
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21:38<totaleueberwachung|de>Good morning #debian.
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21:43<anonymous>Hola>v
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