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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-03

---Logopened Wed Aug 03 00:00:18 2016
---Daychanged Wed Aug 03 2016
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00:41<user>ola
00:41<user>wana play a game
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02:07<omnipoet>hey
02:08<omnipoet>anyone can help me getting output on my second screen? trying to dual screen through vga
02:08<omnipoet>debian 8.1
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02:19<rdo>Hi, can anybody recommend a sip client for Debian Jessie?
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02:30<omnipoet>please help me
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02:48<musca>hello omnipoet
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02:49<musca>omnipoet: please present the output of "xrandr" on https://paste.debian.net
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03:15<omnipoet>yoda
03:15<omnipoet>ur help
03:15<omnipoet>i need
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03:18<itd>!ask
03:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:30<marta_>hello
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04:32<marta_>is there a method to hide the IP address on the irc.debian.org ?
04:34<musca>/msg nickserv help set cloak
04:35<musca>marta_: make sure your nick is registered and identified before you enter a channel.
04:36<marta_>woww it is nice that today cloak is available by default. No longer need to ask the channel admin, really???
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08:01<mensoif>Hi, dont know if its the right channel to ask a packaging question
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08:02<mensoif>I try to create a package with debhelper
08:03<mensoif>everything looks fine exept that all files are owned by root
08:03<mensoif>It looks like dh_fixperms does this change
08:03<mensoif>so I tried to use override_dh_fixperms to chown my files
08:04<mensoif>but it does not seem to work, as I'm trying to split the package into multiple packages, I tried to use the override_dh_fixperms/my-package-1 syntax
08:05<babilen>You typically want #debian-mentors for packaging related questions
08:05<mensoif>ok
08:05<mensoif>I will try my luck there, thanks
08:05<babilen>(let me know right away if you are not packaging for the Debian archive)
08:06<mensoif>no, it's just for personal use
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08:13<babilen>That's okay .. just mention it
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08:14<JohnA>I want to remove bot Firefox-esr and Icedove in order to stop stretch updates from stomping all over both Firefox and Thunderbird 51..., how can I remove the dependencies on Firefox-ESF and Icedove??
08:16<itd>JohnA: testing -> #debian-next
08:16<JohnA>better question how can access #debian-next chat?
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08:18<JohnA>itd: Sorry, I must have screwed up 1st time I tried to join.
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11:13<bartm>Question... about ssh and passphrases. In jessie I had to enter the passphrase for ssh only once after login, in a graphical box, while in stretch it keeps asking the passphrase in the terminal. I guess it's just a missing package. Does anyone know which package?
11:14<mtn>bartm: same desktop/wm?
11:15<bartm>mtn, yes, both gnome
11:15<mtn>bartm: was it the gnome keyring in jessie?
11:15*bartm thinking...
11:16<bartm>mtn, shouldn't it ask to include it in the keyring at the first time?
11:16<mtn>bartm: not sure of the app name
11:16<mtn>bartm: if it was running, I would think so
11:16*bartm checking that now...
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11:17<bartm>mtn, it's running on both machines (/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login)
11:17<bartm>assuming gnome-keyring is involved...
11:18<mtn>bartm: was only thing I could think of :)
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11:19<bartm>thanks anyway mtn for thinking along :)
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11:20<mtn>:)
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11:21<bartm>mtn, at first sight this looks like this bug report (I'm using stretch though) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/377467
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12:05<cmarzullo>debian8 (systemd) and nginx. systemd doesn't ask for a passphrase. removing the passphrase isn't an option. Trying to find a systemd way to solve this. Lookign for some unit file patterns. Any suggestions?
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12:07<wo00rm>I have a LUKS encryption setup and I would like to know the best method to setup a bootloader to prompt with something like "invalid disk" as the password prompt
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12:07<wo00rm>for plausible deniability, etc.
12:08<wo00rm>Is it possible to configure lilo or grub to do this, or is there an alternative bootloader with this in mind?
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12:10<bartm>wo00rm, rather security by obscurity than plausible deniability I think
12:11<bartm>wo00rm, I don't know of any bootloaders with such customization option, but you could of course always modify the source code to add such feature
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12:13<wo00rm>the hard drive contains what looks like random data besides a boot loader that just prompts "error" or similar
12:13<wo00rm>you could deny the existence of any data, or encryption of the drive correct?
12:14<wo00rm>Do you know of any other open source bootloaders besides truecrypt, grub, and lilo?
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12:15<bartm>syslinux (sometimes used for usb)
12:16<bartm>wo00rm, and no, one can't deny the existence of an encrypted drive when a bootloader prompts for the passphrase (even with an intentionally confusing prompt)
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12:18<wo00rm>https://www.truecrypt71a.com/documentation/plausible-deniability/
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12:20<Guest4997>hola
12:21<Camila>feo
12:21<Guest4997>fea tu
12:22<Guest4997>feafeafefa
12:22<Guest4997>hola
12:22<Camila>te amo
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12:22<bartm>wo00rm, well, "hidden" means that no bootloader is pointing to it, obviously
12:23<Guest4997>hola
12:23<Guest4997>suano
12:23<Guest4997>digo sunoano
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12:23<awal1>Guest4997, español es #debian-es
12:23<Camila>si
12:24<Guest4997>hola
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12:25<Guest4997>camila la clave que tu me estabas diciendo era C4na1ma
12:25<Guest4997>hola barbanegra
12:25<Guest4997>j
12:25<Guest4997>h
12:25<Guest4997>h
12:25<Guest4997>h
12:25<Guest4997>h
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12:26<Camila>dile que me dege
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12:29<bartm>question... how to configure automatic screen rotation for a tablet-pc? (debian gnome stretch)
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12:31<danielsh>bartm, stretch questions on #debian-next
12:32<bartm>haa right, thanks danielsh
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12:58<pi015>hi
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12:58<pi015>i am new in linux
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12:58<pi015>anyone there ??
12:58<danielsh>plenty of people
12:59<danielsh>what's your question?
12:59<pi015>oh okie
12:59<pi015>no ouestions bro just joined
12:59<danielsh>ok welcome
12:59<pi015>can you send me link of helium theme
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13:00<danielsh>I don't know what that is, and in any case you should be able to find one by searching the web for it.
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13:00<pi015>okie ....
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13:01<pi015>impressed with this os
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13:50<jthomas>Hi, can anyone tell me why this one-liner stops after the first gzip is done? the file I'm calling has over 1,000 repos listed. Command is: for SITE in `head -10 /var/svn/2016-08-03_zerofiles_size_sorted.txt |awk '{ print $2 }' ` ; do svnadmin dump $SITE | gzip -9 > /var/svn/backups/$SITE.svn.gz ; done
13:51<lindi-_>jthomas: set -x?
13:51<danielsh>does /var/svn/2016-08-03_zerofiles_size_sorted.txt have more than one line?
13:52<danielsh>Oh, you said yes.
13:52<jthomas>lindi-_ I don't understand, where do i put that flag?
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13:53<lindi-_>jthomas: that turns the debug mode of your shell on
13:53<lindi-_>jthomas: run that before the command to see what actually happens
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13:57<jthomas>understood, interesting thanks...
13:58<lindi-_>jthomas: use set +x to disable it
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13:59<mtndew>does debuild require an exact match of comment on gpg key for the changelog?
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14:03<mtndew>ugh, comment has to match exactly in control/changefile
14:03<mtndew>it's not smart enough to look by user or email
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14:14<jthomas>Interesting turn of events, when I do that scripted backup with 10 smaller repos it works fine, but with the large repos it dies after the first one
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14:15<danielsh>is there an error message?
14:15<danielsh>anything in syslog perhaps?
14:18<MarkedOne>Hello... nvidia bumblebee primus... after sudo optirun glxgears i got error [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
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14:19<MarkedOne>On this site https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee it says to edit lines in .conf.nvidia.. but i am using nouveau
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14:21<MarkedOne>also mentioned error on site is about card0 and i have card1
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14:41<MarkedOne>how did i do downgrade? and then upgrade package to previous state? aptitude?
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14:52<umino>hi
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14:52<itd>hello
14:54<umino>hi itd, how are you
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14:54<itd>umino: fine, thank you. if you just want to chat you should go to #debian-offtopic
14:54<musca>MarkedOne: in general downgrades are not tested neither supported
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14:56<umino>itd: i have a question about debian on power PC but the ppc channel is all silent - should i wait or can someone in here help me maybe ?
14:57<itd>try it!
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14:58<umino>i want to run retroarch on a 17" powerbook - got it installed and all but when i try to start it a window pops open and closes again just a split second later
14:59<danielsh>start it from a shell, is there an error message then?
14:59<umino>nope ... no message but same behavior
14:59<itd>umino: debian stable?
14:59<danielsh>what's the exit code?
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15:00<umino>exit code ?
15:00<danielsh>retroarch; echo $?
15:00<danielsh>^ what does that print? (include the ? in the command)
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15:00<umino>i will try that ... be right back
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15:13<Guest5013>hi people, I want to know if it is possible to give someone access to write a disk, but not to erase files in that disk ... i know that erase/write is a very similar process ... but may be what I am asking is possible
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15:14<Guest5013>if it is possible, how to do it ? of course i was looking for this on internet, but i was no so lucky
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15:15<danielsh>you have to have some sort of ACL (access control list) in the middle, so that whatever program the someone is talking to, controls what he may and may not do
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15:16<musca>does overwriting with new data count as erase?
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15:21<umino>back ... sorry for taking so long
15:21<umino>danielsh: the output is just 0
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15:22<mtn>umino: which version of debian is this?
15:24<umino>i installed it as 8.4 but ran a dist-upgrade yesterday - does that change the version ?
15:24<mtn>umino: no, you are running jessie. or version 8 of debian
15:25<mtn>umino: how did you install the application?
15:25<Guest5013>ok danielsh, can you recommend me some programs for this task ? i need to do this in the most common plataforms: linux, mac and win
15:25<Guest5013>musca <- excuse me, i didnt explain enough XD, i am a little bit hurry
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15:25<umino>mtn: apt-get install retroarch
15:26<umino>after adding a package source
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15:26<mtn>,v retroarch
15:27<judd>Package: retroarch on amd64 -- sid: 1.3.0+dfsg1-1; stretch: 1.3.0+dfsg1-1
15:27<umino>there are ppc versions of it too
15:27<mtn>umino: if you installed for outside sources it could easily be broken. you should have used ssb.
15:27<mtn>!ssb
15:27<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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15:29<itd>umino: which source did you add?
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15:29<umino>mtn: i got the source for the package from here: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=retroarch
15:30<mtn>umino: you installed a package from testing or sid? that may also cause trouble
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15:30<umino>because they are not stable ?
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15:31<umino>what is sid exactly? sorry if its a noob question
15:31<mtn>umino: that and conflicts
15:31<mtn>umino: sid is the unstable branch of debian
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15:31<umino>ah
15:32<umino>the link i posted brought me here: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/powerpc/retroarch/download
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15:33<umino>and there i used http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian as suggested in the box on top
15:33<umino>thats where apt should have installed it from
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15:35<MarkedOne>Hello how can i downgrade to specific version with aptitude?
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15:36<danielsh>Guest5013, you could use subversion for example.. It's designed to never lose any file it ever had.
15:36<babilen>MarkedOne: You can't, downgrades are not really supported
15:36<babilen>MarkedOne: You can install the .deb manually with dpkg
15:37<MarkedOne>That is terrible :D
15:38<itd>umino: did you install anything else after adding this line? did you do an updates?
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15:39<umino>yes - i think i did the dist-upgrade after that
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15:41<umino>because of retroarch wanting to install many newer packages i thought i better just upgrade the whole thing
15:42<itd>that sounds to me like you are on debian sid now.
15:42<umino>how can i find out?
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15:45<umino>there should be a command to show the versions of important parts if i remember correctly
15:45<umino>just can't remember the command
15:45<nabo>i need some information about debian.
15:45<itd>!ask
15:46<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:46<itd>umino: well there is: lsb_release -sc
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15:48<umino>sid
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15:49<umino>you guessed right itd
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15:49<MarkedOne>If you look here https://packages.qa.debian.org/libd/libdrm.html there is .58 version in stable... and if you look at news you see that a lot of versions got to testing.. but stable is not moving it is still on .58 version.. when it will upgrade?
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15:50<itd>umino: sorry to hear that. (= I can't help you with sid - no clue.)
15:52<umino>no problem itd - its just a toy computer anyways - i can easily throw the debian disc in, wipe the drive and start all over again :D
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15:55<umino>just need to make sure i do it right next time
15:55<itd>nabo: in case you missed it. the message from dpkg was for you.
15:56<itd>umino: glad to hear that. maybe just come here before you install it and see if someone can help/guide you. :)
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15:56<umino>haha ... if you are ok with me asking a lot of questions
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15:57<umino>i'm pretty new to this
15:58<MarkedOne>why aptitude doesnt allow downgrade?
15:58<itd>umino: just ask and: welcome :)
15:59<ompaul1>MarkedOne: think about the consequences
15:59<umino>thanks itd
15:59<umino>how long are you using debian already ?
15:59<ompaul1>MarkedOne: for instance - how to you undepenency
15:59<retrospectacus>MarkedOne: because almost all software does not support downgrading
16:00<itd>umino: let's move to #debian-offtopic for that, okay? :)
16:00<MarkedOne>isnt it in lunux just package?
16:00<ompaul1>undependency even - now what did your upgrade throw away and where are your old style configs that you changed on upgrade
16:00<MarkedOne>if it can be removed.. and installed new package then i cant see problem
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16:00<ompaul1>MarkedOne: when you do it and it fails you can have a one person postmortem
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16:01<babilen>MarkedOne: Packages perform changes in the system during installation .. the scripts that do that are implemented in a way to only work in one direction. They can't undo what they have done earlier .. well .. they could, but that isn't implemented as downgrades aren't supported.
16:01<MarkedOne>ompaul1 I don't get it... why whould anyone die? it is just package.. with version.. and dependency
16:02<babilen>You can, naturally, still install older packages again, but the outcome of that is not defined. It might work (in many cases it will), but it might not ..
16:02<umino>itd: sure
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16:02<umino>be there after a smoke
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16:02<MarkedOne>babile... and what about aptitude purge package... and aptitude install package specific version?
16:02<MarkedOne>that should work
16:03<MarkedOne>i just want new buggy package removed.. and replaced with older working...
16:04<ompaul>MarkedOne: depends on what other parts of the package / configs have been altered but it is not as people said supported and postmortem is a software technical term for an examination after an incident to work out what you could have done better
16:04<ompaul>MarkedOne: so do it and if it works great, if it doesn't happy reinstall or build of older package or fix bug in new one the choices are many, but they are yours
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16:07<MarkedOne>ompaul I am in trouble... there is bug https://bugs.debian.org/756522 and it says it is fixed.. but so far.. no update has come
16:07<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/756522 in bumblebee-nvidia (forwarded, fixed-upstream): «bumblebee-nvidia: cannot access secondary gpu - error: Permission denied»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-07-30; last modified: 2016-05-29.
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16:09<MarkedOne>resp if it is fixed why i am getting this error still?
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16:15<ompaul>MarkedOne: uname -a place
16:15<ompaul>please
16:15<MarkedOne>Linux NB-DEBIAN-ACER-01 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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16:17<Zak>apt-get install: unable to install python3.4-dev
16:17<Zak>debian wheezy
16:17<Zak>why?
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16:17<ompaul>,v python
16:17<judd>Package: python on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze7; wheezy: 2.7.3-4+deb7u1; jessie: 2.7.9-1; stretch: 2.7.11-2; sid: 2.7.11-2
16:18<ompaul>,v python3
16:18<judd>Package: python3 on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; stretch: 3.5.1-4; sid: 3.5.1-4
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16:20<itd>Zak: it's just not there. (only jessie and sid)
16:20<ompaul>MarkedOne: when did you last reboot after you upgraded?
16:21<MarkedOne>everyday in fact...maybe i am not getting what is going on..
16:22<bluca>MarkedOne: try with bumblebee from jessie-backports
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16:23<MarkedOne>bluca: How long it takes to get something in stable? :D
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16:23<Guest5013>ok danielsh, thank you so much :)
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16:24<ompaul>MarkedOne: it doesn't change it only gets security and other fixes - why that was marked fixed this far out I have no idea
16:24<bluca>it's not fixed, it's fixed-upstream
16:24<ompaul>ahh didn't cop that
16:24<MarkedOne>and what does it mean?
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16:24<bluca>it means upstream fixed that, but new version is not released yet
16:25<bluca>however, most of the good stuff is backported in patches
16:25<bluca>which includes what's in jessie-backports
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16:25<Zak>itd: uh thats weird
16:26<MarkedOne>and will someday stuff from jessie-backports got to jessie? :D
16:26<bluca>no, never
16:26<bluca>only security fixes
16:26<itd>Zak: why? :)
16:27<MarkedOne>bluca... if i am not using jessie-backports i am stuck at one place forever :D so no package will get newer version :D
16:27<Zak>itd: Idk im trying to install an IRC bot where on the installation page (was created in 2015) says that python3.4 is on debian
16:27<bluca>it will when stretch is released
16:28<MarkedOne>i thought if it is fixed well enough I will get it as update :D...
16:28<itd>Zak: if debian == debian stable then they are right.
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16:31<bluca>MarkedOne: for that bug it might be a kernel issue
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16:32<bluca>so you can also try with adding "rcutree.rcu_idle_gp_delay=1" to the grub default cmdline
16:32<bluca>or get the kernel from jessie-backports
16:32<bluca>you'll find more info in the readme
16:32<bluca>/usr/share/doc/bumblebee/README.Debian
16:32<MarkedOne>thank you
16:32<MarkedOne>ompaul thank you too
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16:33<MarkedOne>i am tired now.. i will try later
16:33<MarkedOne>wish you good night :)
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16:52<mtndew>is there a way to print out in your package list, what repo all your packages came from?
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16:53<mtndew>like, know what comes from main, contrib, and non-free
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16:58<bluca>you can see that in synaptic
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17:07<mtndew>command line only
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17:11<itd>mtndew: maybe something with dpkg-query --showformat=... and grep for installed packages. Also, the Filename may contain what you want to know.
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17:13<mtndew>itd: thanks, figured it out
17:13<mtndew>dpkg-query -W -f='${Section}\t${Package}\n' | grep ^non-free
17:13<itd>mtndew: nice! :)
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17:14<mtndew>basically, mirroring is using disk space....if the appliances built don't actually need certain repos....don't mirror them...
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17:28<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
17:28<itd>hello
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17:36<FELIZITI>hola
17:36<tschitsch> /win 275
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17:37<FELIZITI>hola
17:37<itd>hello FELIZITI
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17:38<FELIZITI>como estas
17:38<itd>!es
17:38<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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17:39<FELIZITI><3
17:39<FELIZITI>como te llamas
17:39<FELIZITI>hola
17:39<FELIZITI>hola como te llamas
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17:40<FELIZITI>hola
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17:41<FELIZITI>hola
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19:50<zenluiz>Hello....!!!
19:51<itd>hello zenluiz
19:51<zenluiz>hablas español??
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19:51<itd>!es
19:51<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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19:59<umino>itd: hi i'm back
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20:02<itd>wb, umino - I'm gone. (almost.)
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20:04<umino>just wanted to say taking the whole thing apart piece by piece and putting it back together did "magically" fix the video output
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20:04<itd>cool :) are you already back on stable?
20:04<umino>starting the installation as we speak
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20:17<itd>well, good luck. :)
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20:24<k-man>I managed to get a backtrace from a crash of icedove: http://sprunge.us/WdjD
20:25<k-man>is it useful for me to send this to the bug tracker for icedove or something?
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21:39<minirva>hello :)
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23:05<masen>Hi is there anyone alive that can help me with VFIO PCI Passthrough?
23:06<masen>Im getting a black screen in virt-manager
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23:15<Infiltrator>Where does GNOME Power read the values for the keyboard and mouse? I'm not sure that GNOME is actually updating the values, so I want to look at the raw values. Is it in /proc somewhere?
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