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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-06

---Logopened Sat Aug 06 00:00:35 2016
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01:03<axc>hello
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01:05<jalcine>that was short
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01:07<rapiz>How can I make the menu bar of terminal shown again after I hid it?
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01:09<Casper>right click > show menu bar?
01:10<rapiz>Casper: Thank you.That is what I need.
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01:17<TomasCZ>Hi, any suggestions where to go, or what to try when attempts to get mobile broadband working with Sierra EM7305 are failing?
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01:46<Guest5227>i'm building a lightweight debian machine using jwm as my window manager. is there any alternative to xlock? i can't seem to find its package. thanks
01:47<jmcnaught>Guest5227: there's xscreensaver
01:48<grove>i3lock is pretty lightweight, I doubt that it's tied to i3 (but I haven't checked)
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01:48<Guest5227>thanks jmcnaught
01:51<Guest5227>hmm 42.3 MB just to lock the screen..
01:52<grove>Guest5227: If you missed it, I suggested you try i3lock, the .deb file is ~18k, apt says installed size is 86,0kB
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01:53<Guest5227>grove: i was looking at xscreensaver. thanks for pointing out i3lock
01:54<Guest5227>alright trying out i3lock
01:55<Guest5227>thanks grove for i3lock :)
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02:05<MTecknology>I'm trying to install debian 8 at the moment. I'm at configuring network interfaces and it wants to know if I'd like to load up some non-free firmware. I would actually like to do this, so... I stick the thumb drive in a free port and the installer can't find it. So, I try to stick it in the USB 2 port, which ... works fine, but the ports are so close together, I can't have both the thumb drives
02:05<MTecknology>in at the same time. Great that it works to prove it's a weird buggy thing, but not great because now I can't load that firmware.
02:06<MTecknology>I tried creating another partition on the thumb drive after copying the installer to it w/ dd, but mount says Invalid argument. I assume that what I tried to do just plain won't work. So, next up, I just stuck the thumb drive in the other USB 3 spot, and was able to mount it fine. Woohoo... but I don't know what to do with this .deb so that the installer picks it up.
02:08<themill>just copy the .deb to the top directory of the usb stick which should have no partition table (and probably vfat formatted -- no idea if ext* works for that)
02:08<jmcnaught>MTecknology: the firmware is in a .deb file in the root directory of the drive?
02:08<MTecknology>yup
02:09<MTecknology>ext worked when I stuck it in a USB2 spot, but the installer also won't boot off the USB 3 ports, they seem to be completely dead weight at the moment
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02:12<MTecknology>I tried vfat with the same result, worth a try, though :)
02:13<MTecknology>the alternative is to go buy some cd's
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02:14<jmcnaught>MTecknology: did you try the unofficial non-free netinst image from https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html ?
02:15<MTecknology>nope, Thanks!!!
02:15<jmcnaught>!firmware image
02:15<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
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02:18<MTecknology>yup, that's exactly what I need :D
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07:05<hach>Hey guys
07:05<hach>i'm testing out the Parrot OS
07:05<hach>Can anyone reply to this message
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07:06<hach>what are you guys upto
07:06<hach>im sure there are no women here
07:06<hach>hence usage of the term - guys
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07:07<grove>Parrot OS is not debian and thus not supported here. It might be based on debian, but
07:08<grove>!based on debian
07:08<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
07:08<hach>Thank you for the polite insult
07:08<hach>I'm just exploring IRC and came across your channel
07:08<hach>all the best
07:09<grove>That's not an insult - at least not more that your garbage about women
07:09<hach>No real way to disprove my garbage now.. is there.
07:10<hach>whoa. Henrik Christian - u from London ?
07:10<grove>!chat
07:10<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
07:10<grove>And no, I'm from Denmark
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07:11<grove>(but I'm on IRC from a VPS hosted in the UK - not in London though)
07:13<grove>We might want to consider teaching dpkg about Parrot OS
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08:02<JohnA>I run two debian servers for my family, both running jessie. they run postfix/dovecot, apache-davical & webdav. Is there a cloud server package that might be "better" than running the separate services?
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09:25<nils_>could anyone assist me finding out why i cannot connect to my dovecot service (auth fails)? My config is: http://paste.debian.net/787186/ ... my feelings tell me there is a rights mismatch with the dovecot (or another) user that cannot read the PAM userdb... but i cannot figure it out
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09:26<nils_>doveadm auth test username also fails
09:27<nils_>but it just returns: passdb: username auth failed
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09:27<nils_>maybe a hint is in syslos: dovecot: auth: Error: passwd(username): Invalid password in passdb: crypt() failed: Invalid argument
09:27<nils_>but why? what does this message tell me?
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09:34<diogo>Opa!!algum brasileiro por ai...precisando de uma ajuda de apostila ou livro sobre o debian..quem puder me dar uma força, estou iniciando no estudo do SO linux... : )
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09:48<cousin_luigi>!pt
09:48<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
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09:54<diogo>obrigado!
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11:26<elvin>привет
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12:11<drjuls>greetings! can anybody help me? I installed clementine in Debian 8.5, but when I play .wma appears as follows: Your GStreamer installation is with a missing plug-in.
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12:15<charly>have you install GStreamer, there are some for different codec audio
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12:21<foormea>hi, is there a channel that would be better for LXC/LXD questions? i'm trying to get 'puppet' service started up on a container's start, but it's not working. i can start the service manually though within the container
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12:22<drjuls>charly: thanks! I tried, but could not. install audacious and solved my problem. Thank you anyway!
12:24<musca>foormea: #lxcontainers on irc.freenode.net
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12:27<wheeler>drjuls: did you get it? Pretty sure wma support is provided by the ffmpeg plugin, so you might need to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
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12:28<drjuls>wheeler: Yes, I tried. But I can not install it. :(
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12:38<wheeler>drjuls: Check out the "Codec packages from third parties" section at https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
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12:42<wheeler>drjuls: is gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad available?
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12:49<cousin_luigi>Is there a way to receive a notification (not through apt) when a particular package is updated?
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13:01<drjuls>wheeler: Yes, it's available. But I will give some research there is. thank you so much!
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13:02<anonymous>hi
13:03<anonymous_>hi
13:03<anonymous>it is my first day at here
13:03<anonymous>but i love
13:03<anonymous_>ok
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13:04<anonymous>can you help me about learn
13:04<anonymous>exemple give me lessons link from you toube
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13:06<anonymous>who can help me?
13:07<anonymous>dephelper
13:08<anonymous>can you?
13:08<awal1>anonymous, do you have any explicit question related to debian system or just trolling?
13:09<anonymous>no i dont troll
13:09<awal1>so ask your real question
13:10<anonymous>how can i hack any friend`s profile in facebook
13:12<drjuls>o.O
13:13<anonymous>what?
13:14<awal1>anonymous, is this you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVo01MeK9os ?
13:15<pavlushka>anonymous: lol, is that relates to debian even remotely?
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13:18<Spirokky>maybe he think all hackers use debian
13:18<Spirokky>thinks*
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13:36<vb>hi
13:36<vb>dpkg: hi
13:36<dpkg>privet, vb
13:36<vb>dpkg: how r u
13:36<dpkg>vb: i don't know
13:36<vb>dpkg:ok
13:36<dpkg>i haven't a clue, vb
13:37<vb>i want to give existing user root permission
13:37<vb>but i currently use this
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13:37<vb>john:x:1001:1001::/home/john:/bin/sh
13:37<vb>now i change this to
13:38<vb>john:x:0:0::/home/john:/bin/sh
13:38<vb>and now error happens when i oopen terminal it says i hv no name
13:38<vb>how to open that file with root permission
13:38<vb>again to modify it
13:38<vb>plzzz help me if anyone is online
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13:39<lindi-_>vb: why are you doing this?
13:39<vb>becuz i dont want to type password many times
13:40<lindi-_>vb: you can configure sudo so that it does not ask for a password
13:40<vb>no i not configure that
13:40<vb>so i use this method
13:40<vb>and error happens
13:40<vb>wht to do
13:40<vb>?
13:40<lindi-_>vb: logout
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13:41<vb>if i logout it will give me normally after i login
13:41<vb> ?
13:41<lindi-_>vb: should. but note that logging in as root to a desktop environment is really weird
13:42<vb>wait i will try
13:42<vb>but i want to modify that file
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13:42<vb>to work normally again
13:42<vb>so how can i do this
13:43<lindi-_>vb: just login as john
13:43<lindi-_>vb: then you can edit the file
13:43<lindi-_>vb: you are now logged in as user 1001 which does not exist
13:43<vb>hmmm
13:44<vb>wait ill try.....iwill back in few minutes
13:44<vb>ok
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13:46<jzaksh>hi. i jut ran `sudo systemctl disable sshd.service` -- but now i cannot: a) find the sshd.service file, or b) enable the service again
13:46<jzaksh>(tried sudo updatedb && sudo locate sshd.service -- only found an empty file: /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/sshd.service)
13:47<sney>iirc the service is just called ssh
13:48<jzaksh>sney: ooh... i wonder what i just disabled, then...
13:48<jzaksh>sney: yeah. thanks! enabling "ssh" now re-created an "sshd.service" file (which is what was autocompleting/confusing me with systemctl)
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13:50<ashleycollinge>Debian!
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13:50<sney>jzaksh: np
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13:52<vb>lindi: hi
13:53<musca>hi vb
13:54<vb>lindi-_: hi
13:54<vb>musca: hi
13:54<vb>i hv now root user
13:54<vb>so i can directly access files without password
13:54<vb>but i wanted to directly access files without root
13:54<vb>how to do ?
13:55<vb>?
13:55<charly>get RW access to your account
13:55<musca>security is there to protect you from destroying your system. I'm not going to support your strange ideas.
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13:57<vb>hey i m doing java programming
13:57<vb>everytime i wanted to modify file with gui i cant becuz it require root
13:58<vb>everytime i hv to go to terminal then change directory and then modify it
13:58<vb>so i wanted to save time
13:58<vb>that is why
13:58<vb>how to give rw access to account
13:59<vb>?
13:59<vb>?
13:59<vb>?
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13:59<Axxo>Hi
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14:08<eSa|>i got errors on a handmade updated debian jessy: ktorrent
14:08<eSa|>ktorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-1.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
14:08<eSa|>or
14:08<eSa|>tech@matsui) pavucontrol
14:08<eSa|>pavucontrol: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-1.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
14:08<eSa|>any hints?
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14:11<blast007>eSa|: where are you getting that ktorrent binary or package from?
14:11<jmcnaught>eSa|: what does "handmade updated debian" mean?
14:11<blast007>and what does "handmade updated debian jessie" mean exactly?
14:11<eSa|>you know it's from debian repository
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14:12<jmcnaught>eSa|: also please don't ask on freenode and OFTC at the same time, it's rude and caused people to waste their time
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14:13<eSa|>ktorrent is version 4.3.1-2+b1 (jessie)
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14:14<eSa|>blast007, it means that i'm updating packages with apt and aptitude instead of doing a dist-upgrade
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14:16<blast007>was this always a jessie system?
14:17<charly>vb: i don't known witch one file you want access but with chmod, chown and usermod you can fixe all access right on files
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14:17<eSa|>no. it started at etch epoque
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14:17<eSa|>it's from 2009 or so
14:18<eSa|>i started ktorrent the other day without particular problems. Sure I've broke something today
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14:26<eSa|>http://pastebin.com/eeLHiD8D
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14:28<eSa|>the pinnings are pointing to stable, am I wrong?
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14:29<blast007>why do you have testing and unstable on a jessie system?
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14:29<eSa|>because I use them in the past
14:29<eSa|>gotta go
14:30<blast007>https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
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14:45<asd>Sooo, i was mostly windows user before but decided to start debianing. I had windows 8.1 on one drive and installed debian on another one. During installation, grub didn't find any other OSes. So, now i have debian which boots fine, grub and windows 8.1 that gives me bcd errors.
14:45<asd>Here's the latest bootrepair paste: http://paste2.org/7K0g438f
14:45<dbb0> i cannot get gdm3 to start on stretch, but lightdm works fine. i could not find any useful information in the logs
14:46<asd>if i try to rebuild bcd and do other stuff from windows recovery, it says "the volume does not contain a recognized file system"
14:46<asd>i also added a custom windows option to grub, so it kinda works, just doesn't boot and says bcd error
14:46<asd>What should i do?
14:46<asd>Two days of googling didn't help so... maybe you can help
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14:47<mtn>dbb0: it is possible #debian-next will be more helpful, since they support testing and unstable
14:47<dbb0>mtn, thanks
14:48<mtn>asd: to be clear, you have windows in grub, but windows won't boot? does the windows boot process start?
14:49<asd>mtn, i added windows to grub manually (so maybe i did something wrong), it didn't get detected itself... and yes, if i choose it, it starts but immediately fails with "BCD error", files missing and stuff
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14:50<mtn>asd: it is either a problem with how you added windows to grub or the windows boot is broken. did you try using update-grub to see if grub would see windows?
14:50<asd>Yes, it doesn't
14:50<mtn>asd: most likely windows is broken or partly missing
14:51<asd>Well, thing is, it worked fine before i installed debian to another patition
14:51<mtn>asd: sure, but that doesn't change your problem ;)
14:51<asd>HOWEVER, that partition i used for debian was hosting win xp once, long time ago. Maybe it had mbr or whatever there...
14:51<mtn>asd: something like that is possible. maybe a windows channel can help you
14:52<musca>try ##windows on freenode.net
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14:53<asd>Well, is there any option to fix windows booting stuff from debian or live usbs?
14:53<mtn>asd: nope
14:53<asd>Oh well
14:53<asd>and afaik if i reinstall windows it will mess things up?
14:53<asd>by things i mean grub and debv
14:53<mtn>asd: you would have to repair/reinstall grub
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14:54<mtn>asd: the debian wiki can help you fix it ;)
14:54<asd>Thanks, i'll keep it in mind as last resort
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14:54<lol>lol
14:55<lol>holaaa soy rubius
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16:45<grove>When installing libmoose-perl, apt says that 'libscalar-number-perl' is suggested. So I thought I wanted to check what that can be used for to see if it makes sense to install it now, but `apt show` just tells me it's virtual, and `apt search` doesn't find anything. So how do I find out if that's a suggestion that's worth following?
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16:48<ihernandez>Hello. Question... I have a laptop and eth0 configured like this: http://pastebin.com/pnFUFbmp
16:49<ihernandez>my wish is for that interface to be always up, regardless of ethernet cable being connected, but it happens not to be the case
16:49<ihernandez>I have to do: ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0
16:50<ihernandez>some ideas on what could I be doing wrong?
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16:52<grove>ihernandez: "allow-hotplug" doesn't make much sense if you want the state of the interface to remain unchanged if the cable is (n)plugged. Removing that might be enough
16:53<grove>s/(n)/(un)/
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17:21<barteks2x>wtf!? Cpu/memory monitor from docky says I have -15% of memory used (Negative value!?)
17:22<barteks2x>I guess it uses 32-bit signed integer to store use/total memory...
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17:29<musca>,v docky --release jessie --arch i386
17:29<judd>Package: docky on i386 -- jessie: 2.2.0-2
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17:43<apoka>buenas !
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17:48<apoka>hiii
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18:33<Guest5289>Just wondering if anyone could help with some sound issues. On board sound card shows up in lspci but seems as though alsa only recognizes my nvidia graphics hdmi ouput
18:34<Guest5289>tried everything I could find online to no avail
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18:43<ihernandez>Thanks grove . Used to have auto eth0, but that didn't gave any different result. allow-hotplug seemed to work better but will try with nothing.
18:43<ihernandez>restart and check how it goes.
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18:47<ihernandez>grove, changed it, restarted... but no luck. This is the new interfaces file, and two ifconfig, one before ifup and other after
18:47<ihernandez>http://pastebin.com/V9HYPNvW
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18:48<ihernandez>so, still no luck getting the eth0 to be configured on startup. auto eth0 didn't worked by some reason...
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18:50<blast007>ihernandez: you have "auto eth0" and "allow-hotplug eth0" both commented out (the # symbol at the start). Did you try with the allow-hotplug line uncommented?
18:51<ihernandez>blast007, yes. didn't worked... at least, not reliably. Ended up with the interface unconfigured in some random situations
18:51<ihernandez>with auto eth0 (previous attempt) was even worse
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18:52<ihernandez>this is something that never happened to me in older version (debian 6 for instance)
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18:54<ihernandez>Will keep playing around it, but seems like it can be a combination of suspend + network interface configuration
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18:56<frlttrwrd>apt just told me that there now is limited security support for a bunch of kde packages. what exactly does that mean? should I stop using KDE then?
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18:57<ach>Hi got that bug thinking of someone should look at if it is dangerous or is their no interest at such things?
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18:58<ach>[ 20.019708] RPC: Registered named UNIX socket transport module.
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19:17<frlttrwrd>"khtml has no security support upstream, only for use on trusted content". ok, so should at least stop using akregator I guess. bummer.
19:18<backbox>hey
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19:19<roysss>hey
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19:22<lwp>I would like to run smartctl against a laptop
19:23<lwp>hard disk. can I do this from some live cd ?
19:23<lwp>unfortunately, not installed on the problem system.
19:26<sney>grml has smartctl
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19:41<sleblanc>Hello, Icedove opens links in the wrong browser. I know where to set this in preferences, but it does not list the browser I would like to use (iceweasel). I know I can click on "Use other", yet I would like to know how this list is populated since other programs on my system also use this browser by default.
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19:42<sleblanc>namely, HexChat and xfce4-terminal also open links in this browser
19:42<sleblanc>I run a minimalist desktop environment, no KDE, no Gnome
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19:46<lwp>grml.org refuses my connection. So I try this instead: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso.torrent
19:48<lwp>sleblanc: on my system, iceweasel was recently automatically replaced by firefox itself, apparently some security problem ...
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19:57<musca>sleblanc: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_browser#Setting_the_browser_that_opens_in_Thunderbird_-_Linux
19:58<sleblanc>musca, I would like to find a system-wide solution, as this also affects other applications such as HexChat and my terminal
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23:48<sleblanc>hello
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