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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-07

---Logopened Sun Aug 07 00:00:37 2016
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00:28<Arcade>hi there sleblanc
00:30<sleblanc>Oh, don't mind me, I was replying to miguel, who, I just noticed, left before I replied…
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02:07<aptDeb>hello! I purged totem from debian 8. After that, I try apt-get upgrade. But the box tips: gnome-core : Depends: totem (>= 3.14) but it is not installed. How to fix this? Thanks!
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02:08<themill>aptDeb: "apt-get -f install"
02:09<aptDeb>@themill: thank you! but this commands will reinstall the totem. I dont want it any more. Is it OK?
02:09<themill>If you want gnome, you need to reinstall totem
02:10<aptDeb>ok then.. thanks
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02:51<demo> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae i686 ** Distro: MX "Fusiono" 15 ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 995,8MiB, 62,9% free ** Disk: Total: 6,2GiB, 12,1% free ** VGA: 8086:27ae ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 10ec:8136 ** Uptime: 4m 50s **
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03:26<anonymous>hi
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06:38<anonymous>hi guys
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06:42<jahoo>hallo - have installed XChat IRC - i am testing
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06:54<jahoo>i will leave - because i am in a railjet RJ near Kufstein. Bye
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09:25<sad>Hello guys
09:26<sad>it's something strege happens
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09:27<sad>I can't download-install gthumb or digikam on my mx 15-Debian 8 jessie
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09:27<sad>please can some people help me?
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09:51<nils_>hi, ich versuche gerade borgbackup (backports jessie) für einen privaten Server einzurichten... jetzt stellt sich mir die frage, welche Dirs ich (nicht) einbinden sollte für ein Backup... z.B. /etc ja oder nein (ich habe kein puppet system oder ähnliches..., möchte aber den Server nach der Grundinstallation wiederherstellen können. Dabei möchte ich aber eigentlich auch apt nicht zerstören..., andererseits kön
09:51<nils_>nte ja auch nach erfolgreicher grundinstallation von 8.5 apt seine pakete wieder selbst einrichten, natürlich mit den zusätzlichen repos (aktuell owncloud und jessie-backports)
09:51<nils_>kennt sich da wer aus und könnte mir ein bissel was zu backups erklären?
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10:08<nils_>whoopsi sorry german... again in english... i am trying to configure borgbackup for my server. My goal is to have a backup that can restore the complete system status after some bad things happened (hdd crash for example). Since its a dedicated server machine , i can reinstall a fresh debian 8.5 base system via robot. Now i need to set borgbackup so store all relevant files... which dirs are to excluded? I would take
10:08<nils_> all dirs except for dev, proc, run... is this really a good idea? What would apt think , if i overwrite files to a older version (lets say i need to install a backup of two weeks ago because of some virus or something)? Can I use borgbackup compatible with apt?
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10:10<musca>!debian-handbook
10:10<dpkg>The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also can be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>.
10:10<musca>also https://wiki.debian.org/BackupAndRecovery
10:10<nils_>musca, last one does not answer my apt questions... its more like "backup everything if there is enough space"
10:11<musca>nils_: yes. I agree.
10:12<nils_>ok to understand that a bit better... where does apt (or more dpkg) store its information about the installed packages and versions?
10:12<nils_>somewhere on my filesystem?
10:12<musca>nils_: apt specific backups are in /var/backups
10:12<nils_>ah so this one is NOT to be excluded?
10:13<musca>exactly :)
10:14<nils_>would you be so kind to take a look at my exclude list if I post it to pastebin?
10:14<musca>and there is /var/lib/dpkg/ and /var/lib/apt where things are going on
10:14<musca>no, sorry.
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10:18<nils_>ok, so if I backup everything but /proc /dev /run (or should those be backed up?) /tmp could be used to restore my server incl. all packages and config?
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10:21<rudi_s>nils_: Yes. - /run and /tmp are most likely tmpfs, so emptied on each reboot. /dev, /proc are virtual file systems managed by the kernel.
10:21<nils_>thanks
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10:22<rudi_s>nils_: You can exclude stuff like /var/cache or /var/lib/apt/lists to safe some spcae.
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10:23<rudi_s>nils_: Personally I don't backup the whole system but only important stuff in /var and /root and /home.
10:24<rudi_s>With RAID a single failing disk is not an issue and in case of a full restore, I'll just reinstall a new system and restore the important data from the backup.
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10:30<nils_>rudi_s, yes its a RAID 1 with 2 discs, but you never know... its a private-used server for me, but i would like to host some stuff (game servers, blogs, etc) for me and some friends, so i would like a backup solution that allowes me to quickly restore my server system if something went terribly wrong
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10:31<musca>!things to backup
10:31<dpkg>Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ...
10:32<rudi_s>nils_: How fast you can restore depends on your connection to the server. If it's quick, a full backup will be faster. If it's slow, it's faster to reinstall the system and then deploy the backup.
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10:33<nils_>last one would be the choice... i have just 40mbit upstream
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13:06<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I have a hard drive with GPT partition, and whenever I mount this hard drive in the same machine I have other with Debian Jessie, I can't see this GPT partition content through Debian. Please, how to proceed in order to get it ?
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13:29<sad>Hi guys!
13:29<sicilliani>Hey sad
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13:32<sad>In my jessie debian-MX 15-is a problem./etc/apt/sources/listd/sedm11mnR-sedqJPamt-sedzoWNTW. Becouse of that I can't install image editors from synaptic or from Debian packages...Help!
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13:33<sad>And I can't remove them.I can do nothing
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13:34<sad>I don't know what they are
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13:36<anon>hello, please someone tell me, what are the default passwords for user and root on debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-mate-desktop.iso
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13:38-!-mode/#debian [+l 764] by debhelper
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13:38<sicilliani>user: user - pw: live
13:39<anon>oh, million thanks, worked! :)
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13:39<sicilliani>great, good luck
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13:40<anon>by the way, from where did you get that info? I just did not found it at debian.org....
13:40<musca>sad: please use http://paste.debian.net to illustrate your problem
13:41<sicilliani>anon: stackoverflow, I had the same problem a couple of years ago.
13:41<sad>I'll do that . Thanks!
13:41<eSa|>still booting :)
13:42<musca>sad: e.g. type "ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d" and copy the output into the paste-service.
13:42<anon>thanks :)
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13:51<sad>musca.I did.Without result
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14:02<anonymous_>hi guys
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14:29<eSa|>why linux-sound-base has no downloads?
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14:35<jmcnaught>,v linux-sound-base
14:35<judd>Package: linux-sound-base on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.0.23+dfsg-2
14:35<jmcnaught>eSa|: because it's not a package anymore
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14:37<eSa|>pulseaudio is not easy on me
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14:39<eSa|>it still complains he can't start without libpulsecommon-1.0.so
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14:41<jmcnaught>,file libpulsecommon-1.0.so
14:41<judd>No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file.
14:42<jmcnaught>eSa|: you must be mixing in some non-Debian repositories, or perhaps using obsolete packages from earlier releases
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14:43<eSa|>,v pulseaudio
14:43<judd>Package: pulseaudio on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.21-3+squeeze1; wheezy: 2.0-6.1; wheezy-backports: 4.0-6~bpo7+1; jessie: 5.0-13; jessie-backports: 7.1-2~bpo8+1; sid: 9.0-1.1; stretch: 9.0-1.1
14:44<eSa|>I've a clean apt preferences files and sources.list contains only jessie
14:45<jmcnaught>eSa|: what are you doing when you get the error about libpulsecommon-1.0.so?
14:45<eSa|>but i'm not on amd64
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14:45<blast007>eSa|: you said yesterday that it was originally etch. had you done a dist-upgrade to each release all the way through to jessie?
14:46<eSa|>i get the error when starting pavucontrol, pavumeter or ktorrent as well
14:47<eSa|>blast007, I never did a true dist-upgrade
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14:47<blast007>and you also had testing and unstable apt sources?
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14:48<eSa|>yes, even experimental for a short period
14:48<blast007>!frankendebian
14:48<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
14:48<blast007>probably easier to just reinstall
14:48<jmcnaught>eSa|: when upgrading debian releases you need to follow the instructions in the release notes, which includes dist-upgrade. If you've got a mix of etch,squeeze,wheezy,jessie,stretch,sid,experimental you have a fubar frankendebian and I agree, do a fresh install (after a backup)
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14:51<eSa|>I'm still not conviced. I would probably deboostrap to do do a new install and I don't want to
14:53<eSa|>just triggered apt-get dist-upgrade
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14:53<eSa|>that will take time
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15:02<eSa|>(alsa stopped working too...)
15:02<pandrew>Hi! Is there anywhere I can get an outdated version of a package in testing. I need xserver-xorg-dev 2:1.17 . But testing now only seems to have 2:1.18, and stable only has 2:1.16. I can't really update to the current testing version, because I'm debugging something.
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15:03<amacater>snapshot.debian.org - I think
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15:04<jmcnaught>amacater: are you on testing or stable?
15:04<amacater>I'm on stable - Jessie 8.5 here but could put another machine on testing
15:05<pandrew>amacater: thanks
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15:05<jmcnaught>oh sorry wrong person... pandrew if you're on stable using binary packages from testing is not recommended
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15:09<pandrew>jmcnaught: I'm on testing. A couple months ago I stopped updating because of a bug that killed my xserver (luckily I could revert easily thanks to a btrfs snapshot) I thought it would eventually get fixed, but it now pissed me off enough that I want to go chasing the bug myself. So the current theory is that there's a bug in the nouveau driver. To check that I need to rebuild the newest nouveau driver on the pre-update system. If it
15:09<pandrew>However to build nouveau I need xserver-xorg-dev 2:1.17
15:09<pandrew>that matches the current xserver binary
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15:10<jmcnaught>pandrew: okay. please get testing support in #debian-next, this channel is for stable
15:10<pandrew>jmcnaught: (y)
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15:11<martingale>pandrew, not sure if this is related to your issue, but an upgrade killed my xserver too, and it turned out that the upgrade uninstalled libpam-systemd for some reason, reinstalling and restarting fixed the issue
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15:15<pandrew>martingale: no, the issue is more complicated
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15:17<amacater>pandrew - I'd suggest an update to current testing before doing anything at all with debugging the problem.
15:17<amacater>and, as suggested, ask on debian-next
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16:36<Nick111>can anyone help me link debian 8 with my xbox to share the wifi please?
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16:37<Nick111>i have an od xbox 360 that needs a wifi adapter, but i know it can be done by linking xbox to pc via ethernet... but cant work it out on debian
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16:37<Nick111>old*
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17:52<cousin_luigi>when I create a dkms package, where should I declare the files to be copied?
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17:58<Rippy>Hello there, I am having some issues with my display driver (NVIDIA Corporation GK106M [GeForce GTX 765M]). On boot here is what I see (http://pastebin.com/7yjVAAYQ). Is this an issue with the nouveau driver not loading my card correctly?
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18:21<joelkraehemann>Hi, need help with ALSA programming
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18:22<mtn>joelkraehemann: programming or troubleshooting?
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18:24<joelkraehemann>troubleshooting
18:24<joelkraehemann>Playback doesn't go to speakers after 1-2 seconds
18:24<joelkraehemann>simple setup works
18:25<joelkraehemann>with more load it stops doing playback
18:25<mtn>joelkraehemann: are you using pulseaudio?
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18:25<joelkraehemann>And behavior vary from differnt linux
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18:26<joelkraehemann>no just ALSA
18:26<mtn>joelkraehemann: though, if it works unless you turn it up too loud, it sounds like a hardware problem
18:26<joelkraehemann>the engine is running an peak shows me sound
18:27<joelkraehemann>gsequencer: pcm.c:1118: snd_pcm_prepare: Assertion `pcm' failed.
18:27<joelkraehemann>Aborted
18:27<joelkraehemann>after successive play and stop
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18:29<joelkraehemann>I think the driver makes problem
18:29<joelkraehemann>Further, it seems like missing through-put
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18:30<joelkraehemann>with bigger buffer-size it works
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18:30<joelkraehemann>but doesn't satisfy
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18:31<mtn>joelkraehemann: maybe alsa has its own irc channel? bet it does
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18:38<anon>what is the default /etc/apt/sources.list for debian stretch? and please tell me, from where do you know it, because I just can not find it on debian.org, and in the default xfce-stretc live iso the sources.list file seem to be bad...
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18:38<mtn>anon: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList use stretch instead of jessie
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18:39<anon>mtn: thanks :)
18:39<mtn>anon: :)
18:40<Huita>Hello! I've got a weird problem. Trying to change root password, sudo passwd root works but i can't type anything afterwards
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18:43<awal1_>Huita, the common way for change root passwd is executing passwd, just passwd
18:43<awal1_>and proceed
18:43<awal1_>sudo passwd root is for create a passwd for root account and enable it
18:43<Huita>Well, i'm not logged as root atm
18:43<Huita>Oh
18:44<awal1_>that's what I think ; I may be wrong, bcoz I dont use sudo
18:45<awal1_>Huita, also you can try sudo -i passwd, if sudo alone doesn't give enough access
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18:46<PowerOn>Hi
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18:46<awal1_>Huita, I meant sudo passwd or sudo -i passwd ^
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23:44<elandroidperdido>hello, where can i go to ask a question about android/ubuntu rom installation problem?
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