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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-08

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00:26<medicalwei>https://imgur.com/a/IxO7i
00:26<medicalwei>Debian sells rice set now...
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03:55<hellogoodbye>hi :D
03:57<hellogoodbye>I'm wondering i don't have ethernet on my notebook, but I need a graphical interface to get crackin on the wireless fixing (it doesn't work out of the box) is there any way I can install a desktop environment offline?
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03:58<jm_>if the relevant packages are on your offline medium then yes
03:58<musca>hi hellogoodbye, which version of linux do you use?
03:58*cousin_luigi is trying to package a few dkms modules but he's ending up with an empty package.
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04:02<hellogoodbye>debian
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04:02<hellogoodbye>which one comes with the standard install dvd?
04:02<hellogoodbye>i downloaded it and put it on a usb
04:02<hellogoodbye>gnome? kde? xfce?
04:03<hellogoodbye>and how would I go about installing it offline?
04:03<jm_>!cd contents
04:03<dpkg>To find out which CD or DVD image contains a particular package or source file, use the search engine at http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ . To see what a specific image contains, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-cd/).
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04:04<hellogoodbye>the site won't load
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04:04<hellogoodbye>I just downloaded the standard dvd i386
04:05<jm_>but list-foo files are there
04:05<hellogoodbye>which desktop comes with it?
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04:05<knoppix121>LXDE KDE and GNOME
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04:06<hellogoodbye>thanks
04:06<hellogoodbye>so i just do apt-get install gnome and it would work without internet?
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04:07<hellogoodbye>my bad tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install right
04:08<hellogoodbye>then it will install the desktop?
04:08<knoppix121>new install to
04:08<knoppix121>harddisk?
04:08<knoppix121>removable media
04:09<hellogoodbye>hard disk
04:09<hellogoodbye>i'm installing it from usb to netbook
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04:09<knoppix121>ok go try i guess
04:10<hellogoodbye>-_-
04:10<hellogoodbye>so you don't know if it will work without network?
04:10<knoppix121>i got all 3 i can pick whichever one i want to run/restart
04:10<knoppix121>yes if all the files are there it will work
04:10<hellogoodbye>ok
04:10<hellogoodbye>do i have to mount my usb first to get the repository list?
04:10<hellogoodbye>apt-cdrom add
04:11<hellogoodbye>then i'll have repositores?
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04:11<hellogoodbye>"D
04:11<hellogoodbye>well I guess I'll just yolo it and try anyway
04:11<knoppix121>i always boot it up in live mode and then click install to flash then you can select also allow install to fixed harddisks are you sure y/n then click yes and select the drive and off you go
04:12<knoppix121>if you want custom partitions firstly use Gparted of course
04:13<knoppix121>how much ram that netbook has?
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04:13<knoppix121>if you can run the entire thing from ram is very fast
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04:14<hellogoodbye>well i downloaded the dvd not live
04:14<knoppix121>isnt that the same ? with unetbootin
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04:16<hellogoodbye>no
04:16<hellogoodbye>when I boot up it only gives me option for install or graphical install, not live desktop
04:16<knoppix121>ok
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04:17<knoppix121>if its all the files it will do but it just wont update if it dont have internet connection
04:18<knoppix121>knoppix 7.6 also good and kali they run live
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06:24<OERIAS>Anyone here know jsavage or Aginsberg?
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10:28<jmlongo>hey!
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11:05<alextheg>hi, i'm experiencing weird behaviour with nautilus (3.20.1 on debian testing/gnome3, everything up to date): when there is an ongoing filesystem operation such as copying or moving a file, which is displayed in the circle-diagram left of the search lens, and i then close and reopen nautilus, the progress bar(s) get their own window with decoration, and the location is also completely off (as it should usually be right under the ci
11:05<alextheg>rcle diagram when clicking on it)... has anybody else experienced this behaviour or could it just be my machine?...
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11:08<blast007>alextheg: testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
11:08<alextheg>alright thanks!
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12:36<nop>hi
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12:40<jose_>hello last friday I installed debian for the first time in a while It was testing, today I installed jessie but now the audio wont work. what should I try? a more up to date kernel?
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12:45<daifuco>last friday I installed debian for the first time in years, it was testing, today I installed (to stay) jessie but audio is not working, what should I try? newer kernel?
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12:55<mupudu>FWIW I figured out what was the sudo issue from the other day. the answer is in the NEWS.Debian.gz documentation file for v.1.6.8p12-5
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13:13<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
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13:15<cousin_luigi>If I create and package a kernel module, I assume I'll have to run update-initramfs in postinst and postrm: I'm unsure about syntax though. Can anyone help?
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14:39<joelkraehemann>Hi all
14:39<joelkraehemann>I compile a kernel 3.18.36-rt38
14:39<joelkraehemann>Makefile:938: recipe for target 'drivers' failed
14:39<joelkraehemann>make[1]: *** [drivers] Error 2
14:39<joelkraehemann>make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
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14:42<joelkraehemann>echo $LANG
14:42<joelkraehemann>C.UTF-8
14:42<joelkraehemann>^^ is this problematic?
14:43<blast007>joelkraehemann: do you need that specific kernel for some reason?
14:44<joelkraehemann>I think 4.6.0-1-rt-amd64 causes through-put problems
14:44<joelkraehemann>I just want to test if everything is "fine" with older kernel
14:46<joelkraehemann>I compile it with kernel-package `make-kpkg`
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14:47<blast007>k, then you'll want to provide more (or all) of the compile log, posted to https://paste.debian.net/
14:49<joelkraehemann>Where is it located?
14:49<blast007>your terminal
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14:50<joelkraehemann>Ok, I do a new attempt with infinite scroll
14:51<joelkraehemann>because I can't get more for now
14:52<joelkraehemann>I looked at the Makefile line shown above
14:52<mtndew>how bad is it to preface packages in your private repo with names like productname-package to avoid name conflicts with upstream debian repos?
14:52<joelkraehemann>and there was a locale specific task
14:52<mtndew>it feels less hacky than apt pinning, but still wrong
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15:03<joelkraehemann>I think I have found the problem
15:03<joelkraehemann>In file included from drivers/hid/hid-hyperv.c:16:0:
15:03<joelkraehemann>include/linux/module.h:138:40: error: storage size of '__mod_vmbus__id_table_device_table' isn't known
15:03<joelkraehemann> extern const struct type##_device_id __mod_##type##__##name##_device_table \
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15:05<joelkraehemann>Where should I report?
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15:20<shirish>Slightly OT - hi all, does anybody remember the free software legal website which had to be shutdown due to insufficient funds
15:21<shirish>IIRC, it was run by a woman, in the sense she wrote most of the articles and they were pretty helpful to understand things, concepts etc.
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15:22<blast007>shirish: Groklaw?
15:23<shirish>blast007: on the money, thanx. was searching for that only.
15:23<shirish>blast007: thanx a mill :)
15:23<blast007>np :)
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16:50<joelkraehemann>hi
16:51<joelkraehemann>What does TOMOYO and APPARMOR?
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16:51<joelkraehemann>I develop an application that does soundcard output
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16:52<joelkraehemann>But I experience problems. Could these security models having impact on performance?
16:53<Alam_Squeeze>Apparmor is not on by default on Debian
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16:53<Alam_Squeeze>UNTIL you are using Ubuntu, then this is the wrong room for you
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16:53<joelkraehemann>I use debian unstable
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16:54<joelkraehemann>I have boot-strapped it
16:54<Alam_Squeeze>and TOMOYO, hmmm, MAC control?
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16:56<Alam_Squeeze>and I thought SELinux was pain in my ass
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17:08<joelkraehemann>Alam_Squeeze, I try now without different security models
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17:09<user>somebody here?
17:10<joelkraehemann>CONFIG_SECURITY_APPARMOR=y
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17:10<joelkraehemann>Alam_Squeeze this is what kernel config says
17:11<Alam_Squeeze>yea, it is compiled but not on by default
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17:12<joelkraehemann>It's compiled into the kernel so how isn't it on?
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17:12<joelkraehemann>How to verify?
17:12<Alam_Squeeze>do you see CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY?
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17:14<joelkraehemann># CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY_APPARMOR is not set
17:14<joelkraehemann>Howto enable it?
17:14<Alam_Squeeze>...
17:15<Alam_Squeeze>Debian have CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY=""
17:15<Alam_Squeeze>Ubuntu have CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY="apparmor"
17:15<joelkraehemann>Yes this is there as well
17:15<Alam_Squeeze>so Ubuntu kernel have apparmor on by default, while Debian have none
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17:16<joelkraehemann>Could it be enabled by systemd script?
17:16<Alam_Squeeze>no, only by the boot loader
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17:17<Alam_Squeeze>you have pass "apparmor=1 security=apparmor" to the kernal on bootup
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17:19<joelkraehemann>(1) AppArmor boot parameter default value
17:20<joelkraehemann>So it is enabled per default
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17:29<Alam_Squeeze>joelkraehemann: how about this, what is in /etc/default/grub?
17:29<joelkraehemann>It is missing becaus I have boot-strap the system
17:30<joelkraehemann>Alam_Squeeze, please provide a suitable default config to me
17:31<joelkraehemann>Oh I use refind
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17:32<joelkraehemann>So apparmor=0 security="" does the job?
17:32<joelkraehemann>or apparmor=0 security=0?
17:32<joelkraehemann>see you later
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17:34<joelkraehemann>Can I switch it of by /sys filesystem
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17:37<joelkraehemann>cat /sys/module/apparmor/parameters/enabled
17:37<joelkraehemann>N
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18:01<Yehender>HELP: my debian its damage,i restart my computer when was updating, now it not start, screen remains in black and I can find solution, could guide me? (sorry for my bad english)
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18:07<Yehender>somebody can help me ? :(
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18:14*Yehender slaps ach around a bit with a large trout
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18:19<ach>late was about on they bust cause ethic problems with ban.
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19:29<ach>Yehender?
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20:41<ckosloff>I have a LAMP server on stable version, after an update of the CMS I saw warning: 4 byte UTF-8 for mysql is disabled. See the documentation on adding 4 byte UTF-8 support for more information. (Currently using Database 4 byte UTF-8 support Disabled) , how fix?
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20:44<sney>ckosloff: is this actually causing a problem for you? sometimes software will give warnings that are not relevant
20:46<ckosloff>sney: not really, it is OK for now, wondering if later maybe, thanks for answer.
20:47<sney>it looks like utf8mb4 is a specialized character set, probably for non-latin alphabet languages. your cms likely does not use it unless you went out of your way to do so
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20:51<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I would like to know if it is possible to download protected videos in youtube. I tried to download it normally, but the result was like that: http://paste.debian.net/787534/
20:51<R4F_Debian>Normallly it happens when the video is protected. Is there any way to fix this issue ?
20:51<R4F_Debian>Thanks since now
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21:03<R4F_Debian>Please, is this message relevant for the case ?
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21:15<awal1>R4F_Debian, you may want to try with quvi or cclive and see what happens
21:16<R4F_Debian>hi aall, thanks for attention. in the case, how do I use this commands in the youtube-dl syntax. please ?
21:16<awal1>which syntax?
21:17<R4F_Debian>if you don't refer to the command sequences to use 'youtube-dl', what is "quvi" and "cclive" ?
21:18<awal1>quvi and cclive are packages similar to youtube-dl
21:18<awal1>not part of youtube-dl
21:18<R4F_Debian>oh, I see, I can download youtbe videos through them, so
21:18<awal1>yeah: cclive "youtubeurladress"
21:19<R4F_Debian>cclive without any special parameter ?
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21:19<awal1>you need to use " at the begining and at the end of the url
21:19<awal1>cclive "youtubeurladress"
21:20<R4F_Debian>at the beginnin and at the end, simultaneously ?
21:20<awal1>cclive "blablala"
21:20<awal1>quvi blablabla
21:21<R4F_Debian>ok, I will try it. Thanks for help and support, awall
21:21<awal1>youtube-dl is more sofisticated (have more options), but cclive and quvi does the job downloading, and have a few other options too
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21:23<R4F_Debian>I see
21:23<R4F_Debian>but the video I'm trying to download seems to be protected
21:24<awal1>anyway, you will probably get same error with cclive and quvi just like with yotube-dl when the video is protected somehow
21:24<awal1>so cclive & quvi are just a suggestion...
21:24<R4F_Debian>have you tried to download any protected video using any Debian tool succesfully ?
21:24<awal1>i get similar errors about a few videos, yeah
21:25<awal1>protected or I dont know what exactly
21:25<R4F_Debian>oh, we suffer from the same problem
21:25<awal1>not a problem for me :P
21:25<R4F_Debian>I see, awall
21:26<R4F_Debian>well, it is always a problem for me whenever I need a protected video. But I will try using your suggestions, thanks awall
21:26<R4F_Debian>Nice to see you too :)
21:26<awal1>:)
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21:42<crossstich>hello!
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21:50<R4F_Debian>Hi crosstich :)
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22:25<heliton>Alguem br ae ?
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23:04<ur4ng>hello
23:04<sney>hi
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23:26<ur4ng>hi
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23:31<ur4ng>Hello..
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23:45<joelkraehemann>hi all
23:45<joelkraehemann>howto tell systemd to discard all logs immediately
23:46<joelkraehemann>I do a realtime application and I think systemd logs slow it down drastically after certain time exceeded
23:48<joelkraehemann>And can I do that in my program for all system calls?
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