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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-13

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02:49<tlolczyk>pparmor
02:49<tlolczyk>Sprry typo
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04:27<danialbehzadi>Hi. My systemd seems to be broken. Every systemctl task timeouts like this:
04:27<danialbehzadi>Failed to get properties: Connection timed out
04:27<danialbehzadi>So, I can not upgrade any service package.
04:27<danialbehzadi>Any Idea?
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04:50<danialbehzadi>Hi. My systemd seems to be broken. Every systemctl task timeouts like this:
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05:48<OERIAS>UBUNTU ROCKS!!!!!!!
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05:54<xormor>OERIAS, I just switch desktops in my Debian. I don't need another distro to change the user interface.
05:55<xormor>OERIAS, I had to reinstall Debian because I let jessie-backports remove wine32 and couldn't install it back manually.
05:55<xormor>OERIAS, so you mean the user interface of Ubuntu rocks? One can change it easily. I don't think you even code or run servers on it.
05:56<xormor>OERIAS, Ubuntu is based on and derived from Debian.
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05:58<OERIAS>xormor, didn't debian have issues when you would install Unity?
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06:04<xormor>OERIAS, might be. never tried.
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06:05<OERIAS>i'd like to use debian, but every now and then my school tends to use ubuntu
06:05<xormor>OERIAS, ok
06:06<xormor>OERIAS, Debian is just a basic Linux. nothing special. The stable version is quite stable, but one wants to avoid the backports upgrades.
06:06<xormor>OERIAS, Debian stable with normal repo's is fine with me.
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06:21<shtrb>I was trying to install debian on a usb disk with ext4, during grub-pc package installation the installation failed and seems to broke the superblock on the filesystem. any idea how I can to fix the filesystem (tried using e2fsck -b
06:21<shtrb>XXXX /dev/sdb1 (the dok fs is on sdb1) and xxx from mke2fs -n /dev/sdb1 ) ?
06:22<shtrb>my goal was to get a running debian on a dok (but not live just a normal installation)
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08:27<Thorgrin>Hi all. Could anybody recommend a gigabit ethernet card that would work well with debian linux? I've got some realtek on my mobo and it constantly freezes and does not receive packet until its kernel module is reloaded (and sometimes not even then)
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08:56<Megaf>Hello everyone, do you know if Debian Jessie will ever get a Kernel 4.x on it's main/update repo? Instead of just a backport
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09:00<towo`>no
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09:00<towo`>new versions of packages you will get only from backports
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09:53<gudmund>Clone Xfce session to make alternative login? Howtos? Medium skill level
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09:55<gudmund>Wanna make OpenBox session based on Xfce settings
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10:43<grseg>who's key is this one 42468F4009EA8AC3 any why did it sign the debian instaler CD's ?
10:44<grseg>its here inside: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/amd64/iso-cd/SHA512SUMS.sign
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14:20<bipul>I would like to know about the details of "root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" , it's ALL-all console =(ALL:ALL)-all terminal ALL-all command ?
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14:50<smegghead>when is wheezy out of support?
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14:51<somiaj>smegghead: it lost offical support a while aog
14:51<somiaj>smegghead: wheezy-lts (which requires no change of sources.list) will be supported for another few years
14:51<somiaj>!wheezy-lts
14:51<dpkg>Security support for Debian 7 "Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on 2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until 2018-05-31. See http://deb.li/2aC for excluded packages. No changes to /etc/apt/sources.list are needed for wheezy-lts.
14:51<somiaj>smegghead: note wheezy-lts only supports server side software, desktops won't have security support.
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14:52<smegghead>ah so by default you'll go from security tracked to.. volunteer effort/unoffical support?
14:52<smegghead>so really one ought to upgrade to jessie?
14:55<somiaj>smegghead: I wouldn't say unoffical support, I would say limited support.
14:56<somiaj>smegghead: and limited to server side stuff. If running a server (without many gui apps) the securty support should be fine until 2018-05-31
14:56<somiaj>smegghead: if running a desktop I would upgrade to jessie
14:56<somiaj>on a server, the choice is yours, there is enough support were you could wait until stretch and skip jessie (depending on what sort of work is required to depoly an upgrade)
14:56<smegghead>and is that wheezy-updates via standard ftp.debian.org or wheezy/updates via security.debian.org?
14:57<somiaj>[though you would have to upgrade through jessie if you won't be doing a fresh install]
14:57<somiaj>smegghead: same security.debian.org sources
14:57<somiaj>smegghead: you most likely are already running wheezy-lts if your sources.list was correct
14:57<smegghead>i think i only have a couple of wheezy boxes left. all servers.
14:57<smegghead>it looks like i already implicitly run wheezy lts :)
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14:59<smegghead>i suppose stretch's ETA is spring 2017?
15:00<somiaj>basically, the freeze will happen the end of thise year (Nov 5th was the last date I heard)
15:00<somiaj>and I think by feb 5 2017 packages that have not been fixed will start to be removed to make way for the release.
15:00<smegghead>ok well that's good. and also once frozen, adventorous types may even wish to start using testing for non critical machines?
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15:02<smegghead>somiaj: thanks :)
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15:08<lordg2009>Hi, since I updated to debian 8 my hdparm -S is not working any more. I diskussed some solutions in a german computer forum, none of them worked. hdparm -y is working fine, but the standby trigger via -S is not fired, even if I set the timer to 5 seconds. the controller is in AHCI mode (I checked BIOS, dmesg | grep -i shows no result for ahci, sata, nor scsi). I turned on a debug information, but there are no operations on the
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15:18<santexnik>hi im trying to play a dvd cd but i dont see it on dolphin
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15:34<narcan>santexnik: DRM ?
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15:35<santexnik>drm pakage ?
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15:36<narcan>no your DVD is perhaps "DRM" protected
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15:38<somiaj>you may need the libdvdread package and possibaly libdvdcss (though debian doesn't provide the second, read info in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread for more info)
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15:41<santexnik>guys how do i set on debian so i can use my tv hdmi plug and see i ton large screen
15:43<narcan>you can found libdvdcss on others non-official repositories
15:44<santexnik>now i wana like instead of my laptop screen use my 4k tv
15:44<santexnik>i use hdim cable
15:44<santexnik>but it wont show on tv what do i need to setup in kde to make it work on my tv
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15:55<narcan>santexnik: I think kde can do it easily with "screen managment" or something like that. I don't use kde sorry
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17:24<wallzero>identify
17:26<wallzero>NickServ IDENTIFY
17:26<wallzero>IDENTIFY
17:26<blast007>wallzero: /msg nickserv help
17:27<blast007>wallzero: you want to be messaging nickserv, not a channel with 700+ users
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18:06<hck>hey
18:07<hck>i am new here.. help me
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18:11<musca>It's a best practice to wait for answers.
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18:14<aluy> hh
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18:36<KaiserAres>hey anyone know off hand a repo for openjdk 8 ? im getting a package is missing error
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21:09<dserban>Hello, I am looking for a little guidance. I want to try a program that seems to be generally targeted for use on Ubuntu. I am running stretch and the deb the author provides depends on libraries which are older than what Stretch provides. Can I simply add a wheezy repo (that's the most recent distribution which seems to have the required libraries) and attempt to install what I need? I feel this is dirty and prone to breaking my system ... If so,
21:09<dserban>what can I attempt to get this stuff running on my setup?
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21:12<Hydroxide>dserban: good question :) you might want to ask in #debian-next which is meant for supporting users of testing and unstable.
21:13<dserban>Hydroxide, thanks, even if I ran stable, I would be facing the same problem. Though I will move my question there.
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21:15<Hydroxide>dserban: well if you were running stable, it sounds like you'd have the necessary versions of libraries unless I misunderstood your question... but yes indeed, you could just as easily be asking the same question after stretch got released as stable, and it would totally be on-topic for here. I'm sorry I can't personally focus on substantive help at this exact moment, but good luck!
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21:17<dserban>I see, yes the repository would point to a wheezy distribution as the required versions of libraries exist there.
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21:17<Hydroxide>right. just as an accident of timing, not as a conceptual difference between stable and testing.
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22:08<smemsh>hello, i'm trying to bisect a bug after package upgrade. however the old package is no longer available. where do i obtain older debian packages? this is less than a few months old
22:09<themill>!sdo
22:09<dpkg>http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412
22:09<smemsh>themill: oh sweet, thanks
22:14<themill>which-pkg-broke from debian-goodies might help too
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22:18<smemsh>themill: thanks, that is also useful
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22:32<ceon>hi
22:33<ceon>Im the kind of person
22:33<ceon>O m no bot
22:33<ceon>unfortunatly
22:34<ceon>I can wait 48 hours one software installs
22:34<ceon>but else mine patient is kind of not existent
22:34<ceon>excuse mine english I m native german
22:35<ceon>my love to Debian startet with Knoppix
22:35<ceon>thats it
22:36<themill>ceon: if you have a Debian support question, just ask
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22:42<ceon>thanks
22:43<ceon>actually I know I just to heve to read RTFM
22:43<ceon>but thaks
22:43<ceon>but Im human
22:44<ceon>I jnow u are all technicans
22:44<ceon>but Debian is mor as some technic - to me
22:44<ceon>Its a monolith kernel still maybe
22:44<ceon>I hope
22:45<ceon>Debian and Linux always was free
22:45<ceon>and peacefull
22:45<ceon>so I like it
22:45<ceon>:-)
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22:51*Allred58 is no technician these days.
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23:44<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I would like to know if does exist Debian version for smartphone that can replace iOs and Android completely
23:45<R4F_Debian>I saw some projects that integrate Android with Debian, but that is not the case. I would like to have a Debian in my smartphone, exclusively
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23:46<storge>might ask in #debian-offtopic
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23:49<R4F_Debian>Hi storge, thanks for information :)
23:49<R4F_Debian>and sorry for inconvenience
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