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---Logopened Fri Aug 19 00:00:57 2016
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00:43<cj>debootstrap is b0rken for me.
00:43<cj>http://osdir.com/ml/general/2016-08/msg24807.html
00:43<cj>anyone feel like poking at this with me?
00:44<cj>W: The repository 'http://debian.osuosl.org/debian testing Release' does not have a Release file.
00:44<cj>my whole world is falling over.
00:44<cj> Error writing to output file - write (28: No space left on device)
00:44<cj>oh, nm.
00:44*cj cleans up a bit
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00:49<Arcade>out of disk space
00:50<cj>yeah, I discovered. Oops.
00:50<Arcade>np
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03:45<linux75>ciao
03:48<namoamitabuddha>hallo
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04:25<stevenm_>looks like this guy gets the same thing... https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-4-multipath-starting-at-boot.25287/
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05:14<babs>stevenm_ I run into this trouble on prod, my workaround is, on systemd, to create a /etc/systemd/system/multipath-tools.service.d/restart.conf file
05:15<stevenm_>babs, what does yours contain?
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05:15<babs>section: [Service] Restart=always RestartSec=5 RemainAfterExit=no
05:15<babs>replace spaces by \n :)
05:15<stevenm_>I was going to copy the systemd unit files from the strect version to see if that helped
05:16<stevenm_>ok thanks I'll give that a shot
05:16<babs>in base64: W1NlcnZpY2VdClJlc3RhcnQ9YWx3YXlzClJlc3RhcnRTZWM9NQpSZW1haW5BZnRlckV4aXQ9bm8K
05:16<stevenm_>obviously gotta make that dir first though right? as afaics there isn't one
05:16<babs>yes
05:16<stevenm_>lol base64
05:16<babs>mkdir -p
05:17<stevenm_>you nerd :P
05:17<babs>stevenm_, a good way for line folded content :D
05:17<stevenm_>true!
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05:17<stevenm_>it's mad how many bug reports I've found for this and other similar issues both on debian and ubuntu bugtrackers - crazy
05:18<stevenm_>tbh it's not the first "oh yeah we didn't finish that quite right for systemd" issue I've come across
05:18<babs>I also fixed the pathes
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05:19<babs>to have consistent aliases wwid => alias
05:20<stevenm_>ok i'm gonna test just that restart.conf file first (got a VM I keep rolling back a snapshot on to keep re-testing installation of all the needed bits)
05:20<stevenm_>i'll see if I need any other fixes, hopefully not... i just want it to properly do openiscsi, multipath and mount the filesystem every time on every boot
05:21<babs>stevenm_ I take the "nerd" as a complement
05:21<stevenm_>oh it was meant as one :)
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05:21<stevenm_>i think someone once told me that 'nerd' was offensive in america? not sure if you're in america or not - I'm not.
05:21<babs>are you using the luns as partition or BG ?
05:22<stevenm_>isn't offensive over here anyway
05:22<babs>I'm not and I don't consider it as offensive :)
05:22<stevenm_>it'll just be a gpt partition on the lun - nothing crazy
05:22<babs>*VG
05:22<babs>take care if you want to mount several luns
05:22<stevenm_>nah just the one
05:22<babs>so you're ok
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05:23<stevenm_>why would it be an issue?
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05:24<babs>if i remember correctly, order is not guaranteed, depending on the reference you use un the fstab
05:24<stevenm_>i use the uuid
05:25<stevenm_>hmm it seems that restart.conf doesn't fix my issue
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05:26<stevenm_>ah!
05:26<babs>is your targers properly set to autologin ?
05:26<stevenm_>no it did - i just did ls /dev/mapper too quick
05:26<stevenm_>seconds later they appeared
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05:26<babs>yes
05:26<babs>this is an "issue"
05:26<babs>when referencing the fstab
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05:26<babs>make sure you add _netdev
05:26<stevenm_>well yeah I can see that now :)
05:26<stevenm_>yeah I normally do anyway
05:27<stevenm_>i'll do the partitioning and fstab crap now and see how that goes
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05:27<babs>on Nimble, and the setup I used, it can take up to 60 seconds at boot
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05:27<babs>good luck :)
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05:28<stevenm_>I am still wondering if I took the systemd files form the strect version if it'll fix it - i might test that later
05:28<stevenm_>something i found out there said the stretch version of multipath-tools on jessie works fine
05:28<babs>oh
05:28<stevenm_>*from the stretch
05:28<babs>I didn't try that one :)
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05:47<zhangxun>hello ,everyone
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05:53<stevenm_>babs, that seems to have worked beautifully ... this is the whole thing (not sure if you'd have any further suggestions?! all welcome :P) https://pastebin.com/raw/MCq0wWf8
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05:59<babs>stevenm_, sounds good, you can factorize attribute except wwid an alias in a defaults section
06:00<stevenm_>babs, yeah I could see lots of examples like that - but I didn't understand why you'd do that... surely it'd mean you'd be preventing yourself from using two different SANs at once that might need different settings
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06:01<stevenm_>although i think you can define a device section instead
06:01<babs>you can always override while defining the alias :)
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06:02<stevenm_>babs, if I do a multipath -t I can see it has built in support for compellent as it checks for vendor COMPELNT and product "Compellent Vol" - is there any way to see these vendor/product ID's ? (to know multipath would naturally use them)
06:03<babs>stevenm_, defaults doesn't mean enforced parameters :) and to be honest all my luns came from the same device so all my aliases uses the same params
06:05<stevenm_>cat /sys/class/block/sdb/device/model and /vendor
06:05<stevenm_>looks like they match - so half the stuff I've manually put in multipath.conf I didn't need anyway - already in there
06:05<babs>blkid ?
06:06<stevenm_>no i mean they match the 'device' sections you can see in multipath -t
06:06<stevenm_>so it'll inherit the config which is built into multipath anyway
06:07<stevenm_>no need to set things like 'failback "immediate"' or features "0" or "rr_weight uniform"
06:07<stevenm_>etc
06:08<babs>I had some troubles with matching patterns on devices with Jessie's version
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06:34<arno>hi, can someone help me ? I'm trying to let the Debian installer use my WiFi
06:35<arno>I've put the firmware on an ext2 partition on the USB key, but the installer can't find it
06:38<jm_>where did you put it?
06:38<jm_>also, installation manual recommends to use FAT, not ext2
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06:40<arno>I cat'd the ISO to /dev/sdb. It created /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2. Then, with fdisk, I created a /dev/sdb3, formatted it with FAT, and put the .ucode firmware files in this third partition
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06:40<arno>It didn't work, so I tried to do the same with ext2, but that changed nothing
06:41<jm_>yeah i think you'll want to use another usb drive or grab one of the firmware images
06:41<arno>I don't have another drive :/ Is there a way to put them in /dev/sdb1 ? It seems to be read-only
06:42<jm_>not unless you rebuild the ISO on your own
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06:42<arno>Then can I format the drive with FAT and copy the installer files in GUI ? I remember having read something like that
06:43<arno>then it wouldn't be readonly and I could copy the firmware
06:43<jm_>just grab the other image
06:43<jm_>!firmware images
06:43<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
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06:44<arno>argh, my connection is 50 kB/s, I wanted to avoid that
06:44<arno>anyway, thank you, I'll try
06:44<jm_>not sure if fat would work, in theory it could
06:44<arno>I'll try that first then
06:45<jm_>but not if it expects unix permissions
06:46<arno>I remember installing a Debian like that, but I can't remember how I did it
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06:46<jm_>yeah with the boot from hard disk approach or similar, but not full netinst ISO
06:47<arno>It was with a USB key ! C/C'd the ISO's files on the drive, and I could boot it (maybe another distro, I don't remember)
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06:47<jm_>i am confued, you said earlier that's what you did with debian iso too
06:47<jm_>unless C/C'd means something different
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06:48<arno>oh, Copy/Pasted sorry (I'm french, it's spelled Copier/Coller in french)
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06:49<arno>just realized I should maybe copy the .deb files, and not the .ucode files, on the drive
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06:51<arno>I'll stop annoying you, I will use the firmwares ISO if nothing else works
06:51<arno>Thank you ! :)
06:51<arno>exit
06:51<arno>oops
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06:52<jm_>yeah hd boot would work with the ISO file
06:52<jm_>gah
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07:57<nyov>Hello! I have trouble with my main Iceweasel profile no longer installing or updating any addons. I don't want to throw it away, it has a lot of stored preferences.
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07:59<nyov>The error on the console is this: 1471606785403 addons.xpi ERROR Failed to create staging directory: Unix error 13 during operation makeDir on file /usr/share/mozilla/extensions/{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}/staged (Permission denied) ((unknown module)) No traceback
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07:59<nyov>I have no idea why it suddenly tries to put them into the system directory instead of the user profile dir
08:01<nyov>And I don't remember when it broke :( Any idea what setting might be the reason for this issue?
08:02<jm_>any symlinks pointing there?
08:05<nyov>jm_: I have actually symlinked a few files & folders to outside the profile directory, but not into /usr/share
08:06<nyov>and not the 'extensions' folder inside the profile
08:06<nyov>that one is still a real folder
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08:08<nyov>I will check reverting those symlinks to real folders, though I don't think it'll help
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08:11<Jaleks>is there some grub parameter to not resume into last hibernation state, but start normal?
08:11<jm_>that seems to be in JS https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=requestStagingDir
08:12<jm_>but no time to dif deeper, have to run
08:12<jm_>maybe aInstall.installLocation, but haven't found where that comes from yet
08:12<nyov>jm_: Thanks a lot for taking the trouble to dig!
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08:14<nyov>BTW. the issue must be settings-related, it works in a new or different iceweasel profile
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08:14<jm_>nyov: maybe also ask in firefox channel(s). but need to run
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08:14<nyov>which channel name would that be?
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09:53<mallard>Hi, I just installed Debian on my Surface Pro 3. The installation worked fine, but after a minute or so of using the new system the screen turns black and it hangs completely. I had a similar problem with the Ubuntu live thing. With Ubuntu I set acpi=off as a kernel parameter and it was stable, however then it didn't pick up my SSD. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thanks :)
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10:28<petn-randall>mallard: acpi=off is kind of like a sledgehammer. Many powermanagement things, including turning off the device when shutting down, won't work with that.
10:28<petn-randall>mallard: Better way would to look for a tutorial where someone installed Debian on that device, and how they fixed those problems.
10:29<mallard>Yeah acpi=off causes some problems :( - I've had a look at lots of resources online and nobody has had any of these problems.
10:29<petn-randall>mallard: If that doesn't exist, I'd skim through /var/log/kern.log and look for any error messages that might hint to the problem.
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10:32<petn-randall>mallard: Do you have a second Linux device? If yes, you could ssh into the surface, and try to debug it that way. If ssh still works but interaction directly with the device doesn't, you've already got your first hints.
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10:33<petn-randall>mallard: From skimming a few discussion about it, looks like newer kernels work more stable on this device. Try enabling jessie-backports and using a 4.6 kernel.
10:33<petn-randall>mallard: You're running jessie, right?
10:34<mallard>I tried stretch for the 4.6 kernel
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10:38<petn-randall>mallard: I would recommend stretch because it is still far from release and thus not very stable. Not even sure if it's installable right now with all the transitions going on.
10:38<petn-randall>*wouldn't
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10:41<mallard>I'll have a go with jessie and jessie-backports soon then. In /var/log/messages and I see a load of
10:41<mallard>* a load of disorientatingly long call trace messages
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10:46<mallard>Oh, I think I found the issue. At the bottom of daemon.log I see `systemd-sleep[2164]: Suspending system...`
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10:47<petn-randall>mallard: So if you hit the power button, it is back on again?
10:47<mallard>petn-randall: No, it doesn't seem to wake up from the sleep. Is there a way I can just disable systemd-sleep completely?
10:50<mallard>I set all of the systemd acpi power events to ignore and that seems to have fixed it :)
10:51<grawity>that's not the issue
10:51<grawity>systemd receiving power events when there shouldn't be any power events is the issue
10:52<grawity>did it say something like "Lid closed" above that?
10:53<mallard>I don't think that there was, but it is probably faulty hardware.
10:55<petn-randall>mallard: Oh, how do you know it's faulty? Did it show similar problems as it still had windows?
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10:56<mallard>No I didn't have anything like this with Windows
10:57<grawity>might get fixed in a newer kernel then
10:57<grawity>hardware is weird
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12:24<ccoal>Hi all. I just tried to "sudo apt-get build-dep linux" on a fresh Debian 8 VM and got "E: Build-Depends dependency for linux cannot be satisfied because candidate version of package kernel-wedge can't satisfy version requirements". Any ideas what's up?
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13:24<ccoal>Solved it. For anyone stumbling on this in the future:
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13:25<ccoal>1. Enable jessie-backports: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index2h2
13:25<ccoal>2. Run `sudo apt-get update`
13:25<ccoal>3. Insteall the kernel-wedge from backports: `sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install -y kernel-wedge`
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13:26<ccoal>4. Finally install build-deps: `sudo apt-get build-dep -y linux`
13:26<ccoal>5. Profit!
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14:59<ddpn>hi, i have a problem with cups-printing: i have my printer attached to my server but not always powered on. i want to be able to print a document into my server queue and have it printed out as soon as i switch on my printer.
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15:04<drjuls>greetings! I'm trying to set up my facebook account in Kopete , but it is giving error in the password, but I'm sure that is correct. Can someone help me?
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16:11<Dumont>hello everyone
16:11<Dumont>hello everyone
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16:12<qimo>yo
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16:21<Dumont>i have a problem with apache 2.4 on debian jessie. apache don't start because this error : libphp5.so: undefined symbol: unixd_config
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16:23<Dumont>as i knw, this error ccur because unixd_config was renamed ap_unixd_config...but i don(t know how to fix it
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16:24<lindi-_>Dumont: can you put the output of "dpkg -l | grep php" to https://paste.debian.net/ ?
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16:28<Dumont>ok here it is https://paste.debian.net/790550/
16:28<lindi-_>Dumont: based on the version number 5.6.25-1~dotdeb.7.1 it seems that you are not using php that comes with debian jessie
16:28<lindi-_>Dumont: where did you get that?
16:29<Dumont>i think evrything was nt upgrade with my dist-upgrade
16:29<lindi-_>Dumont: correct
16:30<Dumont>i think it was my previous install
16:30<lindi-_>Dumont: clean your sources.list, apt-get update and then investiate "apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate"
16:30<lindi-_>investigate
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16:30<Dumont>clean your sources.list : how ?
16:31<lindi-_>Dumont: remove the dotdeb stuff from it
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16:33<Dumont>here is my source.list https://paste.debian.net/790551/
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16:35<lindi-_>Dumont: you have webmin for debian sarge there? that's surely ancient?
16:35<lindi-_>Dumont: debian sarge was released 11 years ago
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16:36<Dumont>well i don't know, today i have the 1.810 version so....
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16:37<Dumont>it's the last one
16:37<lindi-_>Dumont: in any case, on this channel you can get support only for debian 8. if you use unofficial packages from third-party sources we can't really help
16:37<Dumont>ok i will remove this
16:38<lindi-_>Dumont: you can always enable the lines later if you want
16:38<Dumont>ok
16:38<lindi-_>Dumont: but right now it seems you have some weird mix of packages from various sources which is quite hard to support :)
16:39<lindi-_>Dumont: did you use dotdeb because you wanted newer versions of php?
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16:39<Dumont>this is my apt-show https://paste.debian.net/790552/
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16:40<lindi-_>Dumont: what about "apt-cache policy php5"?
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16:41<Dumont>well i should remove and reinstall ph ?
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16:42<Dumont>php
16:42<retrospectacus>!dotdeb
16:42<dpkg>http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>.
16:43<lindi-_>Dumont: you should 1) fix sources.list 2) run apt-get update 3) check the output of "apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate"
16:43<Dumont>my phpcache https://paste.debian.net/790554/
16:43<lindi-_>Dumont: you might have skipped step 2) so apt-show-versions does not show php5 there?
16:43<lindi-_>Dumont: yeah, you modified sources.list but did not run apt-get update
16:43<Dumont>i run it
16:44<lindi-_>Dumont: that's why apt-cache still knows about dotdeb.org
16:44<Dumont>and the sources you see was i use to do my dist-upgrade....
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16:45<lindi-_>Dumont: unfortunately dist-upgrade won't fix this situation
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16:45<lindi-_>Dumont: since you actually need to downgrade if you want to get php5 from debian 8
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16:47<lindi-_>does "apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate" now list php5?
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16:50<Dumont>now
16:50<Dumont>no
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16:50<lindi-_>Dumont: maybe you have something in /etc/apt/sources.d/ as well?
16:50<Dumont>jus to sure, the path to sources.lis is /etc/apt/sources.list ?
16:51<lindi-_>Dumont: and also all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory
16:52<Dumont>yes it is in that folder....
16:53<Dumont>ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
16:53<Dumont>dotdeb-php56.list nginx.list nodesource.list non-free.list
16:53<lindi-_>Dumont: ok so you have a lot of third-party stuff there
16:53<Dumont>but WHY i have this ????
16:53<lindi-_>Dumont: it's your server
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16:54<lindi-_>Dumont: we can't really know what you did
16:54<lindi-_>Dumont: maybe the timestamps can help you guess when they were added?
16:54<Dumont>it's the first time i go to this folder
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16:55<Dumont>i did'nt know it exist....
16:55<lindi-_>Dumont: you probably ran some installer as root that added those
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16:55<Dumont>maybe
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16:55<Dumont>so, if i remove the dotdeb list, it will be good ?
16:56<lindi-_>Dumont: well you need to reinstall the affected packages too
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16:57<lindi-_>Dumont: apt-show-versions is a good tool to see what packages are not uptodate
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16:57<Dumont>ye
16:57<Dumont>yep
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16:58<lindi-_>either remove and install them or use e.g. debsnap to get the right versions and then dpkg -i the *.deb files
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16:58<Dumont>i will have an headache if it continu.....
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16:59<lindi-_>Dumont: yeah you might also consider just reinstalling the whole system
16:59<Dumont>hooo no
16:59<lindi-_>Dumont: especially if you don't know what has been done to the current system
17:01<lindi-_>anyways, I gotta go now, I hope you can fix your server
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17:09<Dumont>this is my apt shw...https://paste.debian.net/790561/ beware the eyes....
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18:14<a1000kr>hello. i want to install cmake on stretch debian version, but apparently it does not install...
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18:42<Knorrie>apt-get install cmake
18:42<Knorrie>Setting up cmake (3.5.2-2) ...
18:43<Knorrie>done
18:43<Knorrie>!
18:43<Knorrie>oh, already left
18:43<Knorrie>meh++
18:43<Arcade>Hello: in /etc/apt/sources.list I show two lines: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.5.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20160604-15:35]/ jessie contrib main. Is there a reason for duplicate lines upon install?
18:44<Knorrie>you only show 1 line
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18:45<Arcade>http://pastebin.com/N1HSgJ4U
18:45<jmcnaught>Arcade: most people disable all of the cdrom source lines after installing, and get all packages from the network mirrors. unless you want to be prompted to insert a disc when you install packages.
18:46<jmcnaught>Arcade: and your cdrom lines are commented out, so nothing to worry about.
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18:47<Arcade>Yeah I just was curious what makes the two lines show up (fresh install)
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19:47<jesus>hi
19:47<jesus>someone here?
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19:54<LostSoul>Hi
19:54<LostSoul>Anybody willing to help? :)
19:55<LostSoul>I've got LVM that suits as block-device for kvm machine, I'm curious - is there way to mount it? There is not file system on it as it's splitted in few partitions - how to access certain partition?
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20:02<jmcnaught>LostSoul: libguestfs-tools is one way
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20:29<LostSoul>Thanks jmcnaught
20:29<LostSoul>I've never heard of it :)
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20:30<jmcnaught>LostSoul: that's just the package name for the tools, the website for the project is http://libguestfs.org/
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20:41<LostSoul>Yeah, I've already found this site, thanks, I will dig more :)
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21:02<Arcade>I have one other question. Is there a site out there listing of what debian installs by default on install?
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