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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-22

---Logopened Mon Aug 22 00:00:08 2016
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00:49<mod>Hi
00:49<mod>anybody here ?
00:49<mod>exit :(
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00:50<jm_>wow lots of patience shown
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01:05<stephen0001>probably a newbie that got hit by anxiety
01:05<stephen0001>been there done than myself jm_
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02:21<jasper>hi
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02:24<jasper>can you help me?
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02:26<jasper>can you help me to decide me for a desktop?
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02:26<jm_>if you are undecided why not try a few for yourself
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02:27<jasper>i try all the desktops
02:27<jasper>it make me crazy....
02:28<jasper>really
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02:30<jasper>gnome3 is not my because i am lefthanded and to changing windows i have to press alt + tab ...
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03:36<lindi-_>by default alt-tab in gnome3 switches between applications, not windows
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04:31<moji>hi
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04:53<metaldemon>o/
04:54<metaldemon>I'm prepping for my internship, need to develop on windows unfortunately. If I run the windows setup to install on another drive, will my beloved grub bootloader still allow me to go into debian? or will my bootloader be replaced?
04:55<jm_>it will replace grub but it's easy to get that back
04:56<jm_>well not grub as such but MBR
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04:58<metaldemon>will the bootloader it installs recognize debian or do I need grub? I'm pretty new at this, I just want to dual boot my lappy for the duration of my internship :)
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04:59<jm_>no, not with manual setup, so it's best to put grub back
04:59<jm_>!fixmbr
04:59<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
05:00<jm_>not without manual setup*
05:00<metaldemon>and then grub will allow me to boot into windows of course
05:01<jm_>yes, os-prober should take care of that
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05:01<metaldemon>alright! that's awesome. Thanks! I better get to work then! :D
05:01<jm_>no problem
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05:21<MarkedOne>Hello... can I compile kernel on faster 64bit CPU for older 32bit computer?
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05:27<towo^work>sure, you can, if you can
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05:30<MarkedOne>hmm.... cool :D
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05:32<MarkedOne>one last thing.. how to change configuration of kernel? It says that .config file should not be manually changed
05:33<MarkedOne>and `make config` asks thousands of questions :D
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05:33<MarkedOne>and if already answered... you can not change your mind.. and need to start over again.. so again thousands of questions for change of 1 option
05:34<duclicsic>try 'make menuconfig'
05:35<babilen>"make oldconfig" might also be of interest
05:36<MarkedOne>babilen. And if I want to change 1 option different than is set in oldconfig? probably menuconfig will help
05:37<babilen>(pro tip: they can be combined)
05:38<MarkedOne>.config files manually?
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05:39<babilen>MarkedOne: There are various ways to configure a kernel. It sounds as if menuconfig or xconfig is the one you want, but there are others that might come in handy.
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05:53<MarkedOne>babilen. Thank you... I am asking because I was advised to upgrade kernel in order to resolve some issues. So now, I am wondering which version to use debian or from linux.org.
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06:19<jm_>MarkedOne: do you know there's 4.x kernel available in bpo?
06:20<jm_>judd kernels
06:20<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc7-686 (4.7~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1)
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06:20<jm_>specifically 4.6.x
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06:23<MarkedOne>jm_ yeah.. that is why I am asking.. what is different?
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06:23<jm_>MarkedOne: different to kernel.org kernel or what?
06:23<MarkedOne>jm_ yes..
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06:24<jm_>https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/kernel/linux.git/tree/debian/patches
06:26<jm_>there are the patches, it's quite a bit to go through though
06:27<MarkedOne>Seems I should stick with debian version... but I want to compile it myself.. :) is it possible?
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06:30<grove>It should be possible to `apt-get source` the package and then build it, but why?
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06:35<MarkedOne>to create custom config.. get rid of unnneded drivers.. to learn something new and tweak and perk :)
06:36<MarkedOne>I have a lot of free time :D
06:37<MarkedOne>unneeded*
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06:43<MarkedOne>so thank you for now :)
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07:09<useral45cal>hi all
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07:20<leo_>hello great guys, here is a good time to say nice morning !
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07:22<MarkedOne>good morning leo_
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07:24<leo_>i am using debian at some amd64 desktops and one server
07:24<leo_>now i am run raspbian
07:24<leo_>and have much to thanks to all , very thanks guys!
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09:56<Anthem>hey folks. any suggestions how to deal with a non-responsive package maintainer and/or how to find a sponsor for a package update?
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09:56<shtrb>I think I somehow enabled screen blanking , and I have no idea how I made it . I was able to disable for now with (xset s off) but I have no idea how enabled it initially
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09:57<shtrb>checked in xorg.conf (nothing new) any ideas how I could have enabled it ?
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09:57<shtrb>*debian sid
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09:58<shtrb>I found that I could disable it via .xinitrc , but I wish to remove the inital element which enabled it
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10:02<sandwichtaster>hello
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10:02<shtrb>hello
10:02<sandwichtaster>sup
10:02<shtrb>cursing the moment I did an upgrade
10:02<shtrb>and you ?
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10:03<sandwichtaster>ah, what happened? I had some weird behavior when i upgraded
10:03<sandwichtaster>I'm trying to figure out some issues with nohup
10:03<shtrb>I lost KDE , and I'm having a very strange fade out / blank bug
10:04<sandwichtaster>ouch
10:04<shtrb>the screen get's black but X fail to bring it back
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10:05<shtrb>And I'm here like a rabbit between two flashlight and can't understand what's wrong
10:05<bremner>well, please pick a channel, ideally the other one, for sid support
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10:06<shtrb>I'm on both
10:06<shtrb>it could be an old or a new thing
10:06<bremner>either you're running stable, or not.
10:06<shtrb>I'm not
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10:06<bremner>so, #debian-next is the appropriate channel then.
10:06<shtrb>but this X thing maybe as old as etch
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10:09<sandwichtaster>maybe someone can clear this up in a minute - why does python work but nohup python gives me an ImportError? PYTHONPATH is fine. afaik it was fine until I ran an update but I might be wrong
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10:28<MarkedOne>I have found that HW needs drivers and drivers are packed in kernel modules... the question is.. how can i determine all modules that i need (are in use)?
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10:29<shtrb>lsmod
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10:29<shtrb>MarkedOne , run lsmod to see what is being used now (loaded)
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10:31<MarkedOne>shtrb, so this line `lockd 73494 2 nfs,nfsd` says that nfs and nfsd use lockd module?
10:32<MarkedOne>and `nfs 163685 0` says that nfs module is not used at all
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10:32<MarkedOne>probably.. so I need to compile only modules that are listed right?
10:33<shtrb>no
10:33<shtrb>it means , lockd is used by nfs and nfsd
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10:33<MarkedOne>and module where is 0 means that is not used.. and not needed?
10:34<shtrb>not used , meaning no other module is using it
10:34<shtrb>there are cases when one module needs another
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10:34<MarkedOne>okey so I can compile kernel without that module right?
10:35<babybee>Is there a way to put shortcuts on pulpit ? (debian jesse gnome classic)
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10:35<grove>All the listed modules are loaded, in your example the nfs module is not used by any other modules, but it might still be used
10:36<MarkedOne>grove... Ah now I understand..so all loaded modules must be compiled..
10:36<shtrb>MarkedOne , why would you like to compile out a module ?
10:36<shtrb>you can use .config but why ?!
10:38<MarkedOne>shtrb... to get rid of unused stuff.. I have read that default kernels must support variety of HW so there is a lot of drivers in... And I want to learn something new and tune my system :)
10:38<shtrb>KConfig is your friend
10:39<shtrb>also check custom kernel build
10:39<MarkedOne>can you please point me to url?
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10:40<shtrb>oldy - http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ but still good
10:41<shtrb>that's for debian specific issue
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10:41<MarkedOne>shtrb Thank you
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10:44<shtrb>you are most welcome
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11:02<windowsxp>hey
11:02<windowsxp>debian users
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11:04<bremner>!next
11:04<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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11:09<MarkedOne>xD
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11:10<Qonk>!next
11:10<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
11:10*shtrb shuts the door lock , we need the happy customers inside and not running away
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11:14<sam_c>yes
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11:17<MarkedOne>do you think it is good to have CONFIG_USERFAULTFD enabled? it says... Enable the userfaultfd() system call that allows to intercept and handle page faults in userland.
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11:18<shtrb>MarkedOne , only if you intended to be able to have paging software
11:19<lindi-_>paging software?
11:19<MarkedOne>shtrb... thanks..
11:19<shtrb>sorry , think about KVM
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11:20<shtrb>MarkedOne, if you are going to use anything that needs to do poll or transfer faults (KVM according to the docs)
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11:22<MarkedOne>shtrb.. thanks I am now digging trough config.. and there is a lot of options that i dont fully understand..i wish there is description for options
11:22<shtrb>I think that if one would have mprotect somewhere he will also need that
11:22<shtrb>there are
11:22<lindi-_>MarkedOne: why are you building the kernel in the first place?
11:22<shtrb>lindi-_ , he said for fun
11:22<lindi-_>ok
11:23<lindi-_>MarkedOne: if you want to learn it's a good idea to get the linux git tree and use git log, git blame etc to see the commits that introduced various features
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11:23<shtrb>MarkedOne , are you using KConfig or directly editing ?
11:23<babybee>Is there a way to put shortcuts on pulpit ? (debian jesse gnome classic)
11:23<MarkedOne>CONFIG_STATIC_KEYS_SELFTEST: Boot time self-test of the branch patching code. Is it descriptive enough for you? There must be documentation somewhere..
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11:24<lindi-_>MarkedOne: check git
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11:24<lindi-_>MarkedOne: these are not for endusers :)
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11:25<MarkedOne>shtrb I am using "make localmodconfig" for keeping most of default configuration... just answering new stuff
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11:25<MarkedOne>lindi-: I like git :D i feel it will be fun to read commit messages :D
11:26<lindi-_>MarkedOne: it's a very useful tool indeed
11:26<lindi-_>btw, if you want to modify the official debian packages to suit your needs you can check out what I did in https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2010/11/msg00173.html
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11:27<krymzon>babybee: I think you want to activate 'desktop managed by nautilus' for that
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11:30<krymzon>babybee: also known as 'icons on desktop' in gnome-tweak-tool
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11:32<babybee>krymzon, i turned it on , now i got icons on desktop... and how to add new icons there ?
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11:36<krymzon>babybee: if you want to do it in graphical way, see https://plus.google.com/+WorldofGnomeOrg/posts/23ezFFUgfFP
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11:37<krymzon>babybee: i.e. it says Ctrl+Shift + drag, but I can't test at the moment :)
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11:39<babybee>Ctrl+Shift + drag worked but not to pulpit but to space called with windows + M
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11:40<babybee>krymzon, ok working fine now....
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11:41<krymzon>babybee: ok, great
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11:42<babybee>i need do the dragging from level of windows manager, if i do this from applications (windows + A) it goes in other space ....... so , where in directory structures are stored executables to installed programs ?
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11:43<krymzon>executables installed via apt will be in /usr/bin/
11:43<babybee>krymzon, and those via dpkg ?
11:44<krymzon>probably also /usr/bin, you may also check /usr/local/bin
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11:46<grove>And /bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin
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11:48<krymzon>true that, though those are more likely to be system tools, rather than desktop applications
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11:52<babybee>krymzon, I need to make a launcher on pulpit to those programs... dragged shortcuts are not working as executables ; though it works good for media files
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11:54<babybee>krymzon, ah it works it works
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11:54<babybee>krymzon, thanks :)
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11:56<krymzon>babybee: glad to hear it worked. you may also consider switching to using 'Favorites' in the Activities view, I find them much more convenient than desktop launchers
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11:58<babybee>krymzon, i think I am going to do it , I just migrate from windows so I am perverted ;d
12:00<babybee>What I am missing is ability to create files from level of windows manager, there is simply no option for that . How to add or find such option ?
12:00<krymzon>babybee: that's fine, with some time you will learn the more efficient ways :)
12:01<krymzon>babybee: maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/208291/how-to-create-a-new-blank-file-in-nautilus-3-6-and-above
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13:01<babybee>what is command to run default windows manager on debian jessie classic gnome ?
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13:29<lindi-_>babybee: x-window-manager
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13:32<babybee>lindi-_, thx
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13:34<MarkedOne>compiling linux kernel.. should i create .deb package and install via dpkg or manually copy linux image and update grub?
13:35<MarkedOne>has .deb package any advantages?
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13:51<urzo_>How do I configure apt-get to never delete packages in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
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13:51<windowsxp>windows xp users still work on windows!!!!
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13:52<windowsxp>windows xp is the best!
13:53<mtn>snore
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13:53<windowsxp>lol i am a troll man to every mac
13:53<mtn>urzo_: I don't think it does delete any files by default
13:53<MarkedOne>windowsxp what brings you here mate ? :)
13:53<windowsxp>I want to Troll All of you
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13:54<urzo_>mtn, that's good, but how do i verify i'm configured that way?
13:54<MarkedOne>xD so good luck.. I don't think you will success :D
13:54<windowsxp>shut up urzo you are a troll
13:54<windowsxp>XD
13:54<mtn>urzo_: by default means unless you changed something, it is fine
13:54<windowsxp>( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:54<urzo_>does that mean you don't know?
13:55<windowsxp>lenny!
13:55<mtn>urzo_: it means I don't know how to change it in the first place. do you
13:55<MarkedOne>urzo_ I have read.. that it won't delete your files
13:55<mtn>urzo_: do you know if you changed things?
13:55<urzo_>i remember a long time ago having an issue where apt defaulted to cleaning stuff
13:55<windowsxp>beotch
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13:55<MarkedOne>urzo_ You have to explicitly say to delete it
13:56<mtn>urzo_: I don't think apt ever did that. show us a link that says it did
13:56<urzo_>it would have been in potato
13:56<urzo_>did you use debian then?
13:57<mtn>urzo_: off and on since 1996
13:57<mtn>urzo_: are you running potato?
13:57<urzo_>well maybe i installed in some odd way once and they had a bad config
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13:58<urzo_>probably a downloaded rootfs
13:58<mtn>urzo_: so you don't actually have a problem?
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13:58<urzo_>no, i just wanted to be very sure it wont delete my stuff before i run teh command
13:59<urzo_>i was hoping you'd know some grep i could do on /etc/apt that would yeild certainty on the config
13:59<urzo_>thanks for your help
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14:14<MarkedOne>urzo_: read "man apt-get" there is 'clean' and 'autoclean' paragraph about it
14:14<MarkedOne>btw compiling linux kernel.. should i create .deb package and install via dpkg or manually copy linux image and update grub? has .deb package any advantages?
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14:23<bremner>MarkedOne: you should make a deb package
14:23<bremner>it makes it easier to remove/upgrade later
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14:24<MarkedOne>hmmm... thats good point.. thanks
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14:25<dkremer>I'm meeting a severe bug in mysql-workbench
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14:54<olspookishmagus>hello... anyone knows where's my "/etc/mess"?
14:55<olspookishmagus>I've checked with mess package on my system: 0.176-3
14:55<olspookishmagus>but still I'm missing the /etc/mess "executable" file
14:57<grawity>I thought Debian didn't put executables under /etc
14:57<grawity>anyway, 'mess' seems to be just a dummy package that pulls in 'mame'
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15:41<mazze>Hi! Since years I'm running Debian, also on my laptop (Thinkpad W510, with Nvidia Quadro card) and I have the problem that sometimes after some use the performance degrades permanently and heavily. There must be something that sets the problem off, and it stays until reboot. As even restarts of the xorg-Server do not help I presume it must be something in the kernel. How can I find out?
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15:44<lindi-_>mazze: which graphics driver are you using?
15:45<mazze>linki-_ the proprietary nvidia one, via DKMS
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15:45<mazze>I actually tried with nouveau, but I could not get it to run ... :(
15:46<lindi-_>mazze: according to google W510 could be using either switchable graphics or nvidia optimus, any idea which one you have?
15:46<lindi-_>mazze: https://support.lenovo.com/fi/en/documents/migr-76476
15:48<mazze>I would say, it is non Optimus based. It is a 4389-W1B, which is built for my german speaking market
15:49<mazze>The card in question is the NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro FX 880M]
15:50<mazze>Is there a way to find out what the kernel's work is at a specfic moment? Plain top does not reveal anything ...
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15:53<grawity>`perf` maybe?
15:54<mazze>lindi-_ in http://support.lenovo.com/at/en/downloads/ds032017 I would say, they never really came out with an optimus version of W510 (see "Supported ThinkPad Systems")
15:54<lindi-_>mazze: without source code it is very hard
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15:54<lindi-_>mazze: the nvidia license probably also does not allow you to reverse engineer it
15:54<mazze>If it is the graphics driver anyway ...
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15:54<lindi-_>mazze: that should be easy to test, just try to see if the problem occurs without the graphics driver
15:55<mazze>As I tried to say: I did not get nouveau to work at all. And since a couple of years I'm so addicted to X-based web-surfing, away from lynx, links and w3m ... ;)
15:56<mazze>but maybe I should try to put more effort into getting nouveau to run ...
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15:56<lindi-_>mazze: try with just fbdev or vesa driver?
15:56<mazze>grawity I now installed 'perf', but I still have to figure out how to use it ...
15:57<mazze>lindi-_ ah, thanks for that hint!
15:57<mazze>lindi-_ yes, I will do!
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16:04<cool>hi
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16:13<Ghost1>HELLO FRIEND
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16:19<mckelvins>Hi
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17:51<n111cky>does debian still have plans for supporting ubuntu-style ppa's via something like apt-add-repository?
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17:53<prussian>sounds haram =[
17:53<bremner>n111cky: not ubuntu-style, no.
17:54<bremner>apt-add-repository is pretty trivial isn't it, just drop a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
17:55<n111cky>yup, the docs are fairly complete on getting a ubuntu ppa working on debian
17:55<n111cky>i just recall hearing something last year from the project lead about supporting ppas in debian
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17:56<n111cky>https://www.debian.org/vote/2015/platforms/neilm
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18:00<quentusrex>Is there any way to see the dep chain between two packages?
18:01<quentusrex>for instance I have an application that I'm installing, and it's pulling in a strange lib. The top level package doesn't appear to depend on the lib, and neither do the first level of deps, but there appear to be at least 4+ levels of deps in this tree.
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18:16<musca>,why mutt libx11-6
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18:16<judd>Packages mutt and libx11-6 in jessie/amd64 are linked by 12 chains: mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libcairo2 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶
18:16<judd>gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libxcomposite1 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libxcursor1 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libxdamage1 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libxi6 ▶ libx11-6; (2 more messages)
18:16<musca>,more
18:16<judd>mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libxinerama1 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libxrandr2 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ libgtk2.0-0 ▶ libcairo2 ▶ libxext6 ▶ libx11-6; mutt ▶ libgpgme11 ▶ gnupg2 ▶ gnupg-agent ▶ pinentry-gtk2 ▶ (1 more message)
18:18<musca>quentusrex: ask judd
18:20<musca>apt-rdepends can follow installed package dependencies in reverse order
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18:27<quentusrex>any way to do this on a box itself?
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19:22<mdik>quentusrex: aptitude why
19:23<mdik>also you can add --no-install-recommends to apt-get install
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19:28<somiaj>quentusrex: there are tools like apt-cache depends, or apt-rdepends that can list depend chains
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19:29<somiaj>I don't think aptitude why would work for non-installed packages, and it only gives one depend that pulled it in, might not show the chain.
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19:34<stephen0001>I'm really curious to see what causes icedove to crash at random times while navigating around
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20:13<AmethystLightning>Icedove also crash for me at random times while navigating around
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20:52<lfam_>Greetings! I read the copyright file for the package libtsm3 <http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/libt/libtsm/libtsm_3-1_copyright>. I noticed that the license of the component 'external/wcwidth.c' only gives me the freedom to redistribute *without fee*.
20:52<lfam_>Wouldn't that make it non-free software?
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20:58<stephen0001>it's dual licensed; it's covering you just fine
20:59<lfam_>stephen0001: Can you clarify what you mean? I don't see a second license on the file.
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21:07<lfam_>To clarify my last message, I don't see a second license on the source file in question: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~dvdhrm/libtsm/tree/external/wcwidth.c#n53
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21:27<Teap>Hello: In dire need of help. I've foolishly switch my sources to stretch, got over the nvidia hump, now gdm starts but with no mouse or keyboard supported, so I can't even switch over into a tty to fix anything. :/ Advice?
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23:15<Teap>Hello? :(
23:16<Arcade>hi
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23:25<blast007>Teap: if you upgraded to stretch, the place for support is #debian-next (which covers testing and unstable)
23:25<Teap>Oh, I see.
23:25<Teap>Thanks!
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