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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-25

---Logopened Thu Aug 25 00:00:12 2016
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00:22<R4F_Debian>Hi all
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02:45<jelly>!qotd0
02:45<dpkg><jsolis> how can i access my network when i dont have a network icon
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02:59<Guest914>looking for help with latest DVD R of Knoppix
02:59<jm_>!knoppix
02:59<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
02:59<jm_>so try that channel instead
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05:48<dr0lan>hey guys I'm using deb8 and whenever I plug in the second monitor I get in a loop where I get asked to input username/pw, even if I was logged before plugging it in. Tried restarting it, no success. Yesterday it was working without any issues, haven't booted it up since then
05:49<dr0lan>When I login the screen just freezes a bit, goes black and then I get the login prompt again
05:57<jm_>check logs
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08:38<steamon>hi, I have problem launching steam "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: libGL.so.1"
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08:44<bluca>add i386 multiarch
08:45<steamon>aptitude install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 did it
08:45<steamon>thanks
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09:44<babybee>Which is good email client for debian that handles GnuPG ?
09:45<babilen>mutt
09:45<babilen>(soon neomutt)
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09:59<Hatsjoe>babybee and if you prefer a GUI, Thunderbird
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10:00<bremner>is thunderbird maintained again?
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10:02<Hatsjoe>tbh, no clue, I use mutt
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10:02<Hatsjoe>Didnt even know it was not maintained anymore lol
10:03<bluca>evolution handles it too
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10:07<Helter>hello
10:07<samris>hez
10:07<samris>hey
10:07<Helter>'sup
10:08<samris>i need help whit debian
10:08<petn-randall>!ask
10:08<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:08<Helter>whats your problem
10:09<samris>i can't install Debian v. 8.5
10:10<Helter>why?
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10:12<blast007>samris: you're going to need to provide more information than that
10:12<samris>it come an error. he can't read a file from the CD but i install it from a Stick
10:12<blast007>how did you prepare the USB stick?
10:13<SynrG>bremner: rumours of its death are greatly exaggerated, it seems. thunderbird 45 was first released April 12, 2016, and 45.2.0, which is current, was released June 30. that doesn't seem like "dead upstream" to me
10:13<Helter>i generally use rufus for this kind of jobs
10:13<bremner>SynrG: huh. OK.
10:14<samris>with YUMI
10:14<Helter>try rufus
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10:14<blast007>no, do not tru rufus
10:14<blast007>use Win32DiskImager
10:14<SynrG>bremner: but i think moz still sees thunderbird as a lower priority than it used to
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10:15<SynrG>the wikipedia entry for it points in that direction, anyway
10:15<blast007>samris: the install guide specifically mentions win32diskimager https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid
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10:17<SynrG>!rufus
10:17<dpkg>rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
10:17<SynrG>^^ agreed. don't use it
10:17<Helter>lol
10:18<Naksu>rufus in dd mode will work
10:18<Naksu>afaik
10:19<blast007>or.. just use Win32DiskImager, which doesn't have a 'break everything' option
10:19<SynrG>i'm sure lots of things work. however, most "full service" tools for conversion of iso into bootable use make it very very easy for users to shoot themselves in the foot
10:19<samris>ok i will test it
10:19<SynrG>so it's still not good to recommend such tools
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10:19<SynrG>bootable usb*
10:19<blast007>samris: "it" being Win32DiskImager?
10:19<Naksu>also re: thunderbird, it's going to get shut off from firefox revenue this year
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10:20<SynrG>makes sense. basically, they're a net drain on moz foundation and so development needs to be punted to the community ...
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10:21<SynrG>that's not necessarily a bad thing for its future, though
10:21<SynrG>(cf. staroffice -> openoffice -> libreoffice)
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10:22<Naksu>my opinion of libreoffice as a tool for getting actual work done is not publishable, though i guess it's better than staroffice was 10 years ago
10:23<SynrG>heh. well, in any case, this should probably all go to #debian-offtopic
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11:56<Knoob>hello
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12:22<Helter> hello
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12:35<Helter>hello
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12:47<Helter>anybody here??
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12:50<bremner>!ask
12:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:30<student>hello can anybody help
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14:31<student>by accident I removed linux and I can not boot any more in windows
14:31<student>‎ther any solution?
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14:41<paddy>who is this
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15:17<mdx0>Hi, I have even two problems but maybe I should do step one before step two. I can't do it by myself. Can somebody help? [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree. And. rtl8723ae 0000:02:00.0: firmware: failed to load rtlwifi/rtl8723fw_B.bin (-2). That are missing drivers. Is that correct, that I have to install the BACKPORTS and install the driver via apt-get?
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15:20<mdx0>I never before reload drivers?
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15:22<mdx0>!rtlwifi
15:22<dpkg>Realtek 802.11b/g PCI/PCIe and USB wireless LAN chips (RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187, RTL8187B, RTL8187SE) are supported by the rtl8180 and rtl8187 drivers in the Linux kernel. All drivers do not require firmware from userspace. https://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x . For support of Realtek 802.11n/802.11ac devices, ask me about <rtl819x>.
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15:26<mdx0>!rtl8723f
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15:53<mdx0>okay, I have add into /etc/sources.list the non-free section, can I just install the package via apt-get install firmware-realtek , is that all or is it a little bit more complicated?
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15:56<LunaSela>mdx0: probably a apt-get update is necessary too
15:56<LunaSela>L1p0net1se##al
15:56<mdx0>that seems that this is not the right package because it's not included the binary code for rtl8723fw_B.bin (-2); come mon, please
15:57<mdx0>that's done
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16:00<mdx0>oh, it's tough inside, sorry
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16:03<petn-randall>LunaSela: You might want to change that password.
16:03<LunaSela>petn-randall: It was only a "test password", but already changed
16:03<mdx0>before I try it to install this package, maybe someone like what to say, if that right
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16:05<petn-randall>mdx0: You just need to install firmware-realtek, it doesn't need to be from backports.
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16:06<mdx0>thx
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16:07<mdx0>petn-randall, do I reload it anyway or is it just okay that way?
16:08<petn-randall>mdx0: You need to reload that driver, easiest way is to just reboot and test it, though.
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16:10<mdx0>okay, now I need one more firmware for the graphics: drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree, that look a little bit more difficult
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16:10<mdx0>?
16:11<petn-randall>mdx0: It already tells you the name of the package in the error message ...
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16:15<mdx0>I can't perceive it
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16:15<mdx0>drm:radeon
16:15<mdx0>?
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16:19<petn-randall>mdx0: Did you read the complete message? Especially the text part.
16:20<mdx0>the package is drm:radeon, is that true?
16:21<petn-randall>mdx0: *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree
16:21<petn-randall>mdx0: the package name is firmware-linux-nonfree.
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16:24<mdx0>thank you
16:26<mdx0>petn-randall, is that all? Or do I have to config something more?
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18:53<Gelcur>What does horkage mean or stand for?
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20:38<emanuel>Hello, I'm getting my ass kicked trying to get bluetooth working on my tablet w/ debian... I'm using gnome
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21:09<xyzone>Is it possible for the ffmpeg in debian to use shared library libvpx3 (1.5.0) from backports?
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