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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-28

---Logopened Sun Aug 28 00:00:16 2016
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01:25<shtrb>Is there a US equvavlent to EPWS /EEW systems that can be accessed not by a mobile phone (and better is there a FOSS app for that) ?
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01:26<shtrb>EEW - Earthquake Early Warning and EPWS is Emergency Public Warning System
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02:37<BeardDrop>Good morning
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03:08<anonymous>Hi all
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04:10<fraksken>how would I go about enabling 256 colors and utf-8 in a TTY terminal? I have looked on google, but most stuff I find is rather outdated.
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04:19<fraksken>found it: http://linux.die.net/man/1/fbterm
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04:35<alaska907>Hello
04:36<alaska907>qq
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06:21<txgvnn>i have just downloaded debian-live-8.5.0-amd64-standard.iso in http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
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06:21<txgvnn>livecd, when i boot iso file with live mode
06:22<txgvnn>What password root?
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06:25<txgvnn>i think this is bug for livecd
06:25<txgvnn>Livecd does not auto login
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07:06<winwood59>Hello
07:06<winwood59>Hi
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07:06<musca>hello winwood59
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07:07<winwood59>On Android, which app do you use for IRC? On debian, I use irssi. I believe that it could be simpler irc for n00bs
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07:17<mdx0>Hello, I trying to configure /etc/network/interfaces, I add these lines to: interfaces:1#Iface wlan_home inet dhcp;2#wpa-ssid ****3#wpa-psk***, can somebody help?
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07:21<winwood59>Is there a cool wiki for wpa wlan0? Or a bash script for above remand? Very easy to make wifi work but not documented well.
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07:22<winwood59>mdxo you got to install few debs and wpa supplic. Then edit interface, then dhclient/ifdown/ ifup. Simple, no?
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07:24<mdx0>winwood59, it's a new installation, wpa supplicant isn't installed yet.
07:25<winwood59>Ask which debs are needed? I am on android with crappy keyboard.
07:26<musca>!wpa
07:26<dpkg>Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) is a wireless encryption standard. A WPA supplicant for Debian systems is in the wpasupplicant package, read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure (especially "Troubleshooting" for association to hidden SSIDs). Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", it is possible to install Debian over a WPA-protected network. https://wiki.debian.org/WPA https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant
07:26<winwood59>Cool zic: mplayer "https://archive.org/download/FlashFMGTAViceCityFullRadioShowwwwFlvtoCom/FlashFMGTAViceCityFullRadioShowwwwFlvtoCom_vbr.m3u
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07:28<winwood59>you need to instwll wpa supplicants and lsmod to chevk your module. Do ifconfig and iwlist scan first.
07:29<mdx0>if someone could tell me what to do when I haven't wapsupplicant?
07:29<winwood59>Just instaall it with deb snd dpkg
07:29<marijnfs>usb tether through your phone to wifi
07:30<winwood59>or wget, ar x deb, and use it !!
07:30<mdx0>maybe I should load the deb files to a usb-stick and install it from these source to the other pc
07:30<winwood59>Get a cdrom and add it to sources list.
07:30<marijnfs>do you have a android smartphone
07:31<winwood59>What is the wireless card brand model?
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07:34<mdx0>winwood I can add the usb-stick to sources.list and install the wpasupplicant from there? I use a wlan dongle who ever works under linux.
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07:35<winwood59>Mdx0 sure , just mount to /cdrom and call apt
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07:37<mdx0>winwood59, there is a problem with mount: mount shows me in the last to lines this:/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot/efi type vfat.................................
07:37<winwood59>Mount your cdrom debian cd1 install
07:38<mdx0>I tried this:mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/cdrom
07:38<winwood59>mmchlk is the card sd
07:38<mdx0>it's a netbook without cdrom and ethernet
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07:40<winwood59>i am wondering why peole on this channel dont also try to contribute,..... all are on holidays
07:41<mdx0>winwood59, I have the media from were I installed this multi-arch debian.
07:42<stephen0001>some of them yes, some of them prefer people like you and I to read the manuals, official docs, man pages, and if we don't get an answer to our problem, then to come here and ask. I had to learn this the hard way I'm afraid :/
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07:44<mdx0>really, it's very hard but I can't come a bit forward
07:46<mdx0>without wpasupplicant I can't connect to the router and mount shows me strange output
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07:47<winwood59>Wpa supp is just a deb, dpkg -i it easilyyyyyy
07:48<mdx0>okay, copy the packages to an usb-stick and then put the into the sources.list?
07:49<somiaj>mdx0: no, just manually install with dpkg -i, you may need to download some additional dependecies though.
07:49<mdx0>Yes Yes
07:50<mdx0>abcent
07:50<mdx0>absent
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08:08<mdx0>I copied the deb's to a usb-sick put it into the other pc, but can't mount it right
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08:10<mdx0>I tried: mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/intenso/
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08:11<bremner>that doesn't sound like a usb stick, rather an sd card
08:11<mdx0>there are to files: grub.efi and grubia32.efi
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08:12<mdx0>I guess this lenovo netbook
08:12<mdx0>???
08:13<mdx0>were can I find the sick
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08:18<mdx0>can't do it myself, I will let do this the guys from LUG.
08:20<mdx0>can't find a device with mount that could be the usb-stick
08:21<mdx0>maybe, someone like to help to find this usb-stick?
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08:25<winwood59>You need to learn a bit of linux before, dont you have a driend that can show you?
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08:28<marijnfs>doot do the usb tethering thing, it works instantly and you can install all the wpasupplicants you want
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08:35<winwood59>Marinjf and if he caannnot yet know how to use wifi?
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08:37<winwood59>Are you under busybox?
08:38<marijnfs>you dont have to set up anything, the ethernet gets configured automatically
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08:39<winwood59>Is that good?? https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
08:39<winwood59>I believe that this wiki is of no help for wifi.
08:40<marijnfs>it is
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08:40<winwood59>marijnfs but he needs to tell debian to dhclient
08:40<marijnfs>network-manager is the most user friendly
08:40<marijnfs>naah it works
08:40<marijnfs>nowadays these things are pretty automatic
08:40<marijnfs>in proper new debian
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08:41<winwood59>marinjfs he does prohably havent net manager duding install or setup at thia stage, and likepy he needs wpa supplicants.
08:41<marijnfs>yes thats why i say usb tehtering through phone so you dont need wifi first
08:41<marijnfs>and then install all this stuff
08:41<marijnfs>to bootstrap
08:42<marijnfs>ive done it many times
08:42<winwood59>I believe that an app with ncurses dialog under terminal, woulld help him.
08:43<winwood59>i usually install on debootstrap on /target get wifi, and deploy and wifi works out of the box. But it is toooo complicateted for him yet probably.
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08:44<marijnfs>ok
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08:47<winwood59>Mdx0 disappear, maybe we were unable to help.... damn he will return to windows :)
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09:21<winwood59>Drop me an algorithm .... anf
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11:41<timotree>Hello
11:42<timotree>Is this a place where I can ask questions about trouble I am having with a debian install?
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11:44<timotree>Can anyone see these messages?
11:44<jmcnaught>timotree: hello
11:45<jmcnaught>timotree: you're in the right place. it's quiet here today so you might need to wait around to get answers
11:46<timotree>jmcnaught: ok
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11:46<jmcnaught>timotree: here were prefer to keep support questions in the channel (not in private messages) so that everyone can participate
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11:47<timotree>Is /msg for private messages?
11:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 779] by debhelper
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11:48<jmcnaught>yeah.. there's a bot here named dpkg that you can message, there are examples in the channel's topic
11:48<timotree>I see.
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11:49<jmcnaught>anyways, what are you having trouble with?
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11:50<timotree>I just installed debian 8.5 (using a netinst iso) and I don't think it's booting
11:50<jmcnaught>what's it doing instead?
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11:51<timotree>I tried recovery mode and it freezes after the line "fb: switching to nouveaufb from simple"
11:52<timotree>It's just showing the grub menu then when I select the top option for debian the computer stays on but the screen turns black.
11:55<timotree>Does anyone have any ideas on what I should do?
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11:58<jmcnaught>timotree: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging this page lists a few solutions you can try, starting with removing "quiet" from the kernel command line. booting into the rescue.target might also be helpful
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12:00<andla_>эмм
12:00<andla_>ничего не понимать
12:00<andla_>первый раз в ирке
12:00*andla_ лала
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12:01<timotree>jmcnuaght: I don't know what the cmdline is and how I would remove quiet from it. Should I go to the next listed option?
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12:05<jmcnaught>timotree: on the grub menu you can press 'e' to edit. use arrow keys to get to the line that has the word quiet in it
12:05<timotree>ok!
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12:08<timotree>Remove the whole line or just the quiet part?
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12:08<jmcnaught>just the word quiet
12:08<jmcnaught>this makes it so you see boot messages, so you can look for clues
12:11<timotree>should I tell you what it says now when I select the debian option at the top?
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12:12<jmcnaught>timotree: well.. by removing the word quiet you're making it easier for you to spot clues. Probably you will see the same message about "fb: switiching to nouveaufb..." that you saw in recovery mode
12:12<jmcnaught>but if you get more messages about the issue, you've got something to do a web search about
12:12<timotree>so I should boot in recovery mode?
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12:13<musca>timotree: what graphics card do you use?
12:14<jmcnaught>timotree: if you add '1' to the kernel command line (just the character for one) you will boot into a rescue target (that might be the same thing the grub menu option does)
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12:14<timotree>musca: I just built a new computer with a nvidia geforce gtx graphics card
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12:16<timotree_>I am now logged in as timotree_ fyi
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12:17<timotree_>So where should I add the 1?
12:17<jmcnaught>timotree_: the computer booted?
12:18<timotree_>Same thing as before
12:18<jmcnaught>timotree_: adding '1' to the kernel command line in the grub menu can boot into a rescue mode.. it was not clear to me that you could actually log into your computer
12:18<timotree_>I can get to grub
12:18<timotree_>I can't get to a desktop or a login screen
12:20<timotree_>Where am I supposed to put the 1?
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12:21<awal1>in the same line where quiet was
12:21<timotree_>And then I press F10 to boot?
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12:22<awal1>f10 saves the changes temporally and boot with the changes made, yes
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12:23<timotree_>now it stops on the same line of switching from nouveaufb from simple
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12:25<jmcnaught>timotree_: can you show us that line verbatim? also have you tried searching the web to see what the error means?
12:25<timotree_>[ 32.956707] fb: switching from nouveaufb from simple
12:25<timotree_>I may not have the whitespace exact
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12:28<jmcnaught>and that's the last line that you see?
12:28<timotree_>Yes
12:29<timotree_>Want to know what comes before that?
12:29<timotree_>oops
12:29<timotree_>I messed it up sorry
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12:29<jmcnaught>it could help. does it stay on the screen, or does the screen go blank?
12:29<timotree_>[ 32.956707] fb: switching to nouveaufb from simple
12:30<timotree_>I had 2 froms the first time
12:30<timotree_>it stays on screen sometimes
12:30<timotree_>other times it goes blank
12:30<jmcnaught>timotree_: can you try pressing ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2) to get to a different virtual console?
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12:32<timotree_>Press it when??
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12:33<jmcnaught>when the screen looks blank after it should have booted
12:33<timotree_>ok
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12:35<timotree_>doesn't do anything that I can see
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12:37<timotree_>Also the number change this time
12:38<timotree_>It isn't 32.956707 it is 2.192629
12:38<timotree_>Does the number matter?
12:38<jmcnaught>timotree_: so i'm on a bus right now and the connection is getting to be unreliable. I would try to summarize your problem again, including info like the GPU you have, selections made during the installer and what not, for the benefit of other helpers that did not see your earlier messages
12:38<jmcnaught>timotree_: that number is a timestampe where 0 is when the computer started
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12:45<timotree_>Ok, I am using a nvidia geforce gtx 1080, in the installer I selected all localisation options for american english and eastern time, I enabled the developer feedback option about which packages I select, I installed debian to overwrite my disk and not use LVM or full disk encryption, and when booting in recovery mode my screen freezes after the line [ 32.956707] fb: switching to nouveaufb from simple
12:45<timotree_>In non recovery mode my screen freezes after something about a usb controller error
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13:16<timotree_>Ok I am giving up for now but if anyone has some tips for my computer crashing after the line "fb: switching to nouveaufb from simple" let me know
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13:48<Arcade>is there someone I can contact if none of the debian mailing lists are working for me?
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13:58<somiaj>Arcade: not working in what way?
13:59<Arcade>somiaj, for example: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports-announce/
14:00<somiaj>Arcade: again what is not working about the list?
14:00<Arcade>when I subscribe all is fine, I don't get any emails after
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14:00<somiaj>Arcade: that list hasn't had an email since sometime in may 2016 by the archive you linked
14:01<Arcade>let me find one I know thats current
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14:01<somiaj>Arcade: if you aren't reciving emails it could be some spam filter on your end filtering them out (or maybe putting them in a different place, my emails go to a different tab on my email client)
14:02<Arcade>https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/
14:02<Arcade>I know I sub in July on that ^
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14:03<somiaj>Arcade: so check your email client/spam settings to ensure the mailing list is getting to your inbox (or some other folder)
14:05<Arcade>I use gmail and have yet to see it come though even looking though spam. Do custom email address work on the mailing list?
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14:05<somiaj>Arcade: on my gmail account all my lists go to the 'Updates' tab and not my inbox.
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14:08<Arcade>I just pulled up the only email I sent to (listmaster@lists.debian.org) in Jan. I have yet to see any updates since then
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14:11<Arcade>looking though updates I don't see any at all even doing a keysearch
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14:13<Arcade>interesting using a different email just sent me a confirm message
14:13<somiaj>I'm unsure how to double check you are subscribied to the list correctly. You could try to subscribe your email address again. The only other though I have is contact a list moderator, but unsure who that is
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14:16<Arcade>somiaj, is there someone to contact about why my custom email is not being processed though. Using my college email it works.
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14:18<Arcade>I don't get a CONFIRM message using my custom email
14:19<somiaj>Arcade: it could be some block on your custom email. If your email address is correctly subscribed that would be my gues
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14:22<Arcade>both emails use gmail something must be different on gmail domains setup or something on the server side.
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14:25<somiaj>Arcade: my only other suggestion was contact a list moderator to double check your email is correct on their end.
14:25<Arcade>now that at least I figured it out I will try and look to see what may or may not be blocking it. I get email just fine so I will have to look further
14:25<Arcade>could be the dns entry I use *
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14:26<somiaj>Arcade: if you don't have your mx record set up correctly you may have problems. But unsure what would be correct or not.
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14:29<Arcade>MX looks fine. I will have to some some further investigation
14:29<Arcade>thanks for your help somiaj
14:31<speedcuber>is there a cmd to check if the kernel has a patch or upgrade? Not going to upgrade the rest of the system since there is so much custom software on it. aptitude search linux-image and doing a "show" is a bit clumsy it would seem.
14:32<somiaj>speedcuber: apt-cache policy packagename
14:32<speedcuber>thx somiaj!
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15:12<Arcade>somiaj, I got it figured out using an alias
15:12<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:26<timotree>Can anyone here help me with a problem I am having booting up on debian? (It freezes after "fb: switching to nouveaufb from simple")
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15:27<mtn>timotree: do what dpkg told you to do
15:27<timotree>mtn: what?
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15:27<mtn>!asl
15:27<dpkg>well, asl is #del#
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15:27<mtn>!ask
15:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:27<mtn>timotree: do that ;)
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15:29<timotree>I have a problem with booting; I'm running Debian version 8.5. When I try to do boot in recovery mode I get the following output "fb: switching to nouveaufb from simple" before my screen freezes. I expected it to do boot to a login screen.
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15:30<timotree>mtn: is that good?
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15:30<mtn>timotree: is this a fresh install or was it working before?
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15:30<timotree>fresh install
15:30<mtn>timotree: very good ;)
15:30<musca>timotree: what graphics card do you use?
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15:30<timotree>nvidia geforce gtx 1080
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15:31<musca>nouveau cant handle that
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15:31<piper>Yep ^
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15:31<timotree>musca: the alternative is the proprietary nvidia drivers right?
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15:31<piper> would need the nvidia blob
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15:32<jelly>jucaroba_:
15:32<jelly>argh, sorry
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15:32<jelly>judd: ping
15:32<judd>pong
15:32<musca>kernel 4.6 from backports has signed firmware for latest gforce cards.
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15:33<timotree>musca: how do I get that?
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15:33<musca>^ timotree, at least for geforce 9xx
15:33<towo`>musca, afaik not for the new pascal cards
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15:33<towo`>and 1060, 1070 and 1080 are pascal cards
15:33<timotree>I am pretty new to linux so I don't know how to use backports or the nvidia blob
15:34<musca>thx for the pointer, towo`
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15:34<timotree>musca: How would I install those if I can't boot?
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15:35<musca>timotree: your debian install media has a rescue mode.
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15:36<timotree>musca: I will try that!
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15:36<musca>it can chroot into your installed system
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15:37<timotree>musca: I don't know what chrooting is but I will try it
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15:37<piper>iirc nvidia 367.27 should do the gtx 1080
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15:37<timotree>piper: what is that?
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15:38<musca>timotree: "change root", a method to act inside a different system
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15:39<timotree>piper: is that a version of the nvidia blob?
15:39<piper>timotree: i think you would need to google this for step by step as this as far as I know is not available in debian, but, there are ways around
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15:40<musca>the package nvidia-driver is packaged for debian in the non-free section
15:40<timotree>Also, what does IIRC mean, and why does everyone here use all lowercase? :-D
15:40<musca>just the default package isn't new enough
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15:41<piper>timotree: means if i remember correctly
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15:41<towo`>i don't think, the avaiable nvidia-driver in debian does official support pascal cards
15:41<timotree>which do I choose as my root file system?
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15:42<piper>timotree: don't do that again without permission please
15:42<timotree>piper: what did I do?
15:43<piper>timotree: you opened a query with me
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15:43<timotree>piper: ok I won't do / m s g
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15:44<timotree>does anyone know what the default root filesystem is? My options are sda1 / sda2 / sda3 / sdb1
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15:44<sney>depends on your system, there is no 'default'
15:45<timotree>sney: how could I find out what it is then?
15:45<jelly>timotree: output of "blkid" may provide clues.
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15:45<sney>or 'mount'
15:45<piper>timotree: wherever you installed to, look at df -h
15:45<musca>the partition you've chosen to install the system on.
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15:46<piper>look for /
15:46<piper>that is root
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15:46<timotree>I don't have access to a terminal afaik
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15:47<jelly>piper: they can't boot and are supposed to be using some sort of rescue mode or image
15:47<speedcuber>bit of a long shot but is there anyway to upgrade a kernel without rebooting a server?
15:47<piper>jelly: yes, i was just looking
15:47<piper>:(
15:47<jelly>speedcuber: you can upgrade it, but it's not active until you boot the new one
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15:48<timotree>if i reinstall debian can I find out what partition I am installing it to?
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15:48<piper>timotree: use a live cd, anyone would work
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15:50<timotree>piper: I am just on a fresh install so I am going to reinstall debian and make note of which partition it is installing to
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15:51<speedcuber>This server cant go down until the 15th of the next month =/
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15:53<jimpop>what is the easiest/best way to have iptable rules on jessie that survive reboots? These rules are too detailed for ufw (string matching rate limiting)
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15:54<jelly>jimpop: install iptables-persistent, put them in /etc/iptables/rules.{v4,v6}
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15:54<jimpop>ooh
15:54<jimpop>rgr that, thx jelly
15:54<timotree>the partition that is ext4 shoould be the root filesystem right?
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15:54<jelly>timotree: if you only have one ext4 filesystem, probably yes
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15:56<timotree>does debian come with a desktop envioment by default or do I have to check one off in the installer?
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15:56<jelly>timotree: one is enabled by default, you get gnome unless you specifically pick something else or deselect it
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15:56*jimpop sends a virtual beer to jelly
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15:57<jimpop>holy crap that was easy.... i now have nothing left to do today (was expecting to debug a custom shell script)
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15:58<timotree>how do I send virtual beers?
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15:59<jimpop>the same way you'd send virtual paper
15:59<jimpop>:-)
15:59<jimpop>it's free, and also saves trees1
15:59<jimpop>!
15:59*jelly pulls out the bitcoin and paypal addresses
15:59<jimpop>haha
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16:37<timotree>!asl
16:37<dpkg>asl is, like, #del#
16:37<timotree>#del#
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16:39<timotree>What is the command that makes dpkg tell me the template for asking questions?
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16:42<timotree>I am on a fresh install debian 8.5 and cannot boot because nouveau doesn't support my graphics card. I am trying to install the nvidia blob and someone told me to use the rescue mode of my installing media.
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16:42<timotree>Can anyone tell me how to install the nvidia blob using this rescue mode?
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16:45<ryouma>if nobody else answers, my guess is you'd get to a shell, change /etc/apt/sources.list to include non-free, locate the package, and apt-get install it or aptitude install it, but you might be asking something more sophisticated
16:47<timotree>Do I want to execute a shell in my root filesystem or in the installer enviroment?
16:48<ryouma>are you provided a choice?
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16:51<Anonymo>Derbian
16:51<timotree>ryouma: yeah
16:51<Anonymo>brs ?
16:51<timotree>ryouma: based on that you want me to do something in a folder I think root filesystem
16:51<ryouma>i'm not hte person to ask, but yeah
16:52<ryouma>your system is already installed
16:52<timotree>yeah
16:52<ryouma>but there is also something about you should be able to get a console without a rescue disk, but i guess not :(
16:53<Anonymo>ava
16:53<timotree>I need a version of the driver that doesn't seem to be listed on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers so I think I need to download a package from their website.
16:53<ryouma>you sure it's driver and not firmware? just asking. no special insight.
16:53<timotree>What's the difference?
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17:01<ryouma>timotree: firmware gets loaded onto the gpu, i think. driver is part of the kernel, i think.
17:01<ryouma>timotree: i was unable to get x to work in jessie because of some silly driver change. loading firmware fixes it. no need for proprietary driver. however, firmware is proprietary.
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17:25<timotree>I am trying to install the proprietary nvidia drivers because nouveau doesn't support my graphics card. When I sh the installer file it give me an error about not having 'cc' in my path or not having the gcc installed
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17:26<timotree>Any ideas on how I would fix this?
17:26<sney>!nvidia installer
17:26<dpkg>well, nvidia-installer is a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). More specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel-related packages are upgraded or removed. Ask me about <nvidia-graphics-drivers> instead. See also <why nvidia-installer sucks>, <remove nvidia-installer>.
17:27<sney>you want the nvidia-driver package from non-free
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17:27<timotree>I looked at the graphics card support list. It doesn't support the new pascal based cards which is the one I have
17:27<sney>hmm
17:27<sney>,v nvidia-driver
17:28<sney>does the 352.79 driver support your card? that driver is in jessie-backports
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17:29<timotree>nope that's what I checked.
17:29<sney>ah ok
17:30<sney>well, to use the nvidia-installer you will need to install build-essential and linux-headers-amd64.
17:30<timotree>using apt-get?
17:31<sney>yes
17:31<sney>unfortunately the installer is completely unsupported in #debian so if you need any further help with it you will need to ask in #nvidia on freenode
17:31<timotree>Ok
17:31<timotree>thanks for the help
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17:41<timotree>I am done using the installer.
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17:47<timotree>sney: Thank you so much! I can see a login screen!! :-D
17:47<sney>np
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17:52<timotree>Also... Anyone know how to tell what the name of my current desktop enviroment is?
17:52<timotree>Is there a command for that?
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17:56<somiaj>timotree: not really a command that will say this is the desktop you are using. You can use 'ps fax' and look at what programs are running and this will help let you know which desktop you are running.
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18:10<awal1>timotree, you don't know what you have installed as DE? lol, try if "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION" helps
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18:13<timotree>awal1: it says default
18:14<timotree>awal1: is default gnome?
18:14<awal1>should be gnome, so
18:14<awal1>yeah
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18:14<timotree>also I keep getting this popup that says it is unable to create the folder home/myusername/Desktop
18:16<awal1>if gnome, you may have to enable "handle desktop" or something like that via gnome-tweak-tool
18:16<awal1>just suggesting, not sure
18:16<timotree>ok thanks
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18:42<BlackCube>hi
18:42<BlackCube>i
18:42<BlackCube> need
18:42<BlackCube>helop
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18:43<BlackCube>hi
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18:46<BlackCube>4.8-rc3.tar.xz
18:46<BlackCube>how to install on debian
18:46<BlackCube>?
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18:53<amacater>Check wiki.debian.org - you may want to use make oldconfig in order to use the settings from the 4.6 kernel in, say, jessie-backports. To be honest, I wouldn't go for the very latest and greatest unless you really know what you're doing.
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18:54<amacater>https://wiki.debian.org/it/BuildingKernelFromUpstreamSources
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18:55<somiaj>BlackCube: also as I mentioned before, don't cross-post, you have already been answered on freenode.
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19:23<real007>any one reply in console
19:25<mtn>real007: what does that mean?
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20:01<Carvalho>hi
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20:43<xpic>hi
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20:44<xpic>how to create executable symlink with recursive library ?
20:44<xpic>i used ln -s /file/app.py ~/bin/app but doesn't work
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20:48<xpic>exit
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22:49<stranho>hi
22:50<xvistaman>can some one tell me the steps/packages i need to cross compile linux kernel for powerpc64le i cant seem to find a good write up on it really im just new to corss comiling in general the host is x86_64 im just not shure what packges to installi think i got the jist of what to do when configureing the kernel
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22:52<pablo>hola
22:53<stranho>hola
22:53<pablo>konda
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23:08<Atomic_2>does it have gnats by default?
23:08<Atomic_2>or did that creep in later?
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23:09<sney>if you're asking why a package is installed on your system, run 'aptitude why packagename'
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23:10<Atomic_2>is gnats the package name?
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