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00:28<Arcade>question: does anacron run automatically if I place a script in /etc/cron.daily
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00:29<Atomic_2>no help there
00:30<themill>Arcade: yes (look at /etc/crontab)
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00:31<Arcade>I thought so so if the cron job fails anacron takes over correct themill ?
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00:32<themill>no, more that if anacron is installed, those cron jobs are not run by cron
00:33<themill>they are instead run by anacron via /etc/anacrontab
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00:39<Arcade>ok themill I take it /etc/crontab is never used then.
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00:40<h3lix>anyone else experience connection problems?
00:41<h3lix>I had to connect by IP
00:41<Arcade>nickserv is down h3lix
00:42<themill>Arcade: no, it's not that it is never used. The specific entries for daily, weekly and monthly do nothing
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00:43<Arcade>I think I see now thanks themill
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01:51<bony>how to search for packages and list size of the pacakge in the output?
01:51<bony>apt show would only show the selected package and apt search will just list packages
01:53<bony>\q
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02:42<RosieThought>Hello all, thought I would hang out here while I wait for a net install. Does anyone know if I can check the download speed during the configuring apt stage (non-graphical install)
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02:44<bony>how to list size of a package while searching for it
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02:46<bony>I mean apt search will list all the packages and apt show will show only the package selected
02:48<RosieThought>apt show <package_name> should show download size
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03:07<bony>RosieThought: but that will only show size of one package. I want size to be displayed while searching for packages using apt search
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03:15<RosieThought>bony: Ahh I see now. I'm not sure about that but I'd love to see the solution. Maybe a clever combination of filters...? Hmmm
03:16<bony>yes it would be nice to know the size while searching a package. You are right some kind of filter or a clever shell script :)
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03:20<RosieThought>bony: I have never really needed it though. Why would you need such a thing?
03:22<bony>well I am installing texlive and texlive docs come along with it which are so huge like some of them are 300+MB which I don't need so before I update my system I want to remove all docs so that while updating the system texlive docs are not downloaded.
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03:29<RosieThought>bony: Try "dpkg -l texlive*doc"
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03:36<jelly-hme>bony: aptitude has an extensive search and output format syntax, I'm pretty sure it can show Installed-Size
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03:37<@themill>(noting that Installed-Size is both approximate and not required)
03:37<jelly-hme>!sort by size
03:37<dpkg>well, sort by size is aptitude search ~i -O installsize -F"%p %I", or see <sort by size sarge>, or see <dpigs>
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03:38<jelly-hme>that's just for the already installed packages
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03:40<bony>thanks a lot for that. I was expecting aptitude to have some sort of mechanisam. I will try that.
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03:41<RosieThought>jelly-hme: nice
03:42<@themill>bony: -O installsize is exactly that
03:42<@themill>or sort. sort.
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03:45<jelly-hme>a casual grep shows most stuff in {stable,stretch,sid} {i386,amd64} Packages has Installed-Size except *-cross packages in {stretch,sid}
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03:46<bony>themill: it showed packages but no size was displayed. I think it listed search results sorted by installsize
03:46<@themill>yeah, lack of that field does, however, lead to many interesting bugs in crappy recipes for sorting things
03:47<@themill>bony: you can change the output format for a single search or in the config file
03:47<bony>themill: oh ok I will check that
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04:12<hektabyte>My WiFi works for about 10 minutes, then disconnects from the hotspot and stops working - listing available hotspots, etc. I'm using "Intel Corporation Wireless 7260" on Asus. Does anyone have an idea why is this happening?
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04:14<hektabyte>Just got this machine so the usual stuff isn't working - http://askubuntu.com/questions/529347/how-do-i-keep-my-wifi-from-dropping-out?answertab=votes#tab-top.
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04:54<RosieThought>I need some advise. I am setting up a headless server for home use. I want to be able to deploy TurnKeyLinux software appliances. I think I need KVM or Xen but am not sure which one to use.
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05:25<MarkedOne>Hello is it safe to migrate between graphic drivers? Nvidia -> nouveau and vice versa?
05:26<bluca>yes, look at the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
05:28-!-mode/#debian [+l 556] by debhelper
05:28<MarkedOne>bluca: So no harm could be done to my system.. The point is that graphic switching (optimus) is not working with nouveau. So I want to test nvidia prop. If it won't work too. There is no way to stand with proprietary driver and i will go back to nouveau...
05:29<bluca>optimus with nouveau is getting better in newer kernels thanks also to the work of one of the bbswitch/bumblebee developers, but we are talking 4.7/4.8 kernels
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05:29<bluca>for the proprietary drivers, install bumblebee-nvidia for an optimus system
05:30<bluca>jessie-backports highly recommended
05:31<MarkedOne>bluca: Jessie stable 3.16.0-4-amd64 :D
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05:32<MarkedOne>Someone told me to not use ancient software :D
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06:01<MarkedOne>I am little bit lost... which nvidia driver should I use for GeForce GT 520M? 352.79, 340.65, 304.131? All of them lists my GPU as supported
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06:04<SynrG>,v nvidia-driver
06:04<judd>Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.96-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.96-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 352.79-10~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 352.79-10; sid/non-free: 361.45.18-2; experimental/non-free: 367.44-1
06:04<SynrG>MarkedOne: the one from jessie, i.e. 340.96. don't install from nvidia's site.
06:05<SynrG>MarkedOne: alternatively, there is jessie-backports 352.79, but it doesn't look like that is needed for your card.
06:06<MarkedOne>SynrG: Thank you :)
06:06<SynrG>MarkedOne: however, if you want to make optimus work, you install bumblebee-nvidia instead.
06:07<SynrG>if you find that bumblebee (i.e. nouveau) isn't working
06:08<bluca>if you have a laptop, you _MUST_ install bumblebee-nvidia together with nvidia-driver
06:08<bluca>otherwise xorg will be broken on reboot
06:08<bluca>*optimus laptop
06:09<MarkedOne>SynrG: bumblebee + nouveau is not working.. I have some weird permission errors... Anyway nouveau is slow with fermi cards.. So I will try nvidia one..
06:09<MarkedOne>bluca: bumblebee-nvidia must be installed?
06:09<bluca>on an optimus laptop yes, if you install nvidia-driver
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06:12<MarkedOne>bluca: Thank you for warning...
06:12<SynrG>MarkedOne: if you installed from upstream (nvidia) you must get rid of everything from that install
06:12<SynrG>i hope you didn't. it is known to sometimes leave a mess behind
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06:13<SynrG>just apt install bumblebee-nvidia should install everything you need.
06:13<MarkedOne>SynrG: No no... i am using nouveau for now... that is why I am always asking here first before I try something :D
06:13<SynrG>great
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07:06<stephen0001>question: when I restart or try to shutdown my system (debian testing 64-bit), it cannot unmount disk partitions. where should I look to find the eact error messages? cheers
07:13<KaliLinuxGR>Run from a normal terminal
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07:13<KaliLinuxGR>umount: /media/Iomega_Asus is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
07:13<KaliLinuxGR>Run from a root terminal, it instantly unmounts the partition.
07:13<KaliLinuxGR>Confirmed 3 times in succession.
07:13<KaliLinuxGR>Looks good & I can always use that, but what does it mean?
07:13<KaliLinuxGR>Thanks very much for your continued interest!
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07:14<KaliLinuxGR>sorry
07:14<@themill>KaliLinuxGR: Should I take a bet that you want #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net?
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07:16<KaliLinuxGR>no, i was trying to help stephen0001
07:16<KaliLinuxGR>i had the same problem before 2 weeks
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07:21<stephen0001>KaliLinuxGR: what are you talking about? I'm referring at actual operating system's partitions, not those of a mounted external drive.
07:21<KaliLinuxGR>oh ok
07:21<KaliLinuxGR>sorry
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07:36<MarkedOne>what does that mean?
07:37<MarkedOne>W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.sk.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.sk.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.sk.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.sk.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-i386_Packages) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
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07:38<MarkedOne>sorry.. solved.. I have same entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
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08:04<MarkedOne>Hello, Im here just to say thank you.. it works
08:04<MarkedOne>:) Soo thank you very much
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08:20<diefi>ok... was oftc down a few hours ago?
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08:28<musca>diefi: yes, no services available
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08:33<adam_>hi
08:34<adam_>how can I request email in debian.org domain?
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08:55<perrow>ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooi
08:55<perrow>so sad.
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08:58<bremner>adam_: it's a bit more complicated than that. See https://nm.debian.org
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08:59<bremner>that is, having email is a side effect of being a voting member of the project. There is a procedure to become a voting member which is more than just requesting it.
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10:01<hamanom>ola
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10:15<hamanom>ola
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10:15<hamanom>bando de otario
10:15<hamanom>metido a inteligente
10:15<hamanom>filhos da puta
10:16<bremner>yawn.
10:16<hamanom>voces vao pagar todos voces vao pagar
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12:07<wisp>ciao a tutti :D
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12:10<wisp>ciao ragazzi,mi deve arrivare un pc un po datato io penso di mettere debian base con fluxbox ma vorrei ricompilare il kernel secondo voi ha senso ricompilare?
12:12<bluca>!it
12:12<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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12:12<wisp>sorry
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12:24<@jelly-hme>wisp: if the hardware components have been in the market before 2013, the default kernel should be just fine
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13:08<danielsh>using postfix, can I get a tray icon to appear whenever 'mailq' isn't empty?
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13:18<p1l0t>i had got problems with nvidia drivers and kaly new release.. when i installed the drivers and reboot monitors stop working
13:18<p1l0t>*kali
13:19<musca>!kali
13:19<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
13:20<p1l0t>any suggest?
13:20<hendrikL> /msg bots NOT people
13:20<hendrikL>sorry
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13:57<LunaSela>hi
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14:49<Redfoxmoon>\o/?
14:49<Redfoxmoon>is there a porting channel for debian?
14:49<@somiaj>Redfoxmoon: porting to what? Language or archeticture?
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14:50<Redfoxmoon>architecture
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14:52<Redfoxmoon>somiaj, ^
14:52<@somiaj>Redfoxmoon: any architecture in mind, or just in general?
14:52<Redfoxmoon>just in general
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14:52<@somiaj>Redfoxmoon: here is a list of irc channels https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/
14:52<Redfoxmoon>oh dang
14:52<Redfoxmoon>hehe
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14:53<@somiaj>I don't see one for proting in general, but there are channels for specific ports. Maybe a mailing list would be better.
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14:54<Redfoxmoon>hm, well, perhaps #debian-bootstrap ?
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14:54<Redfoxmoon>yep
14:55<@somiaj>Redfoxmoon: same issue, seems there is a list for each port, but no general ports list that I can find.
14:55<@somiaj>https://lists.debian.org/ports.html
14:55<@somiaj>Redfoxmoon: you could try, but I'm not seeing any channel/list for porting in general. More channels/lists for specific ports.
14:56<Redfoxmoon>yeah :)
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15:20<nickgoot>hello. Where am I to get REGISTRATION CODE?
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15:20<retrospectacus>for what
15:20<nickgoot>привет. Ребята помогите получить рег. код
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15:21<retrospectacus>!ru
15:21<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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15:24<nickgoot>https://community.linuxmint.com/auth/register - what the code?
15:25<retrospectacus>try the Linux Mint channel. This is #debian
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15:30<JasonO>howdy
15:30<musca>howdy JasonO
15:30<JasonO>has anyone found success install the latest displaylink on Jessia with Kernel 4.6?
15:30<JasonO>hi musca
15:31<JasonO>*installing
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16:22<njumdl2014>My debian version is stretch, how do I install python-webkit?
16:22<njumdl2014>According to https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python-webkit, there is no version for stretch.
16:26<bremner>!testing
16:26<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical!
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16:31<njumdl2014>I use debian testing on my own PC. It is OK. But I need python-webkit package to install one user application.
16:34<bremner>njumdl2014: as I said about, go to #debian-next
16:35<njumdl2014>I have asked this question in #debian-next. Thanks.
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18:34<blimpy>hi, i just installed a fresh debian system onto my server and I want to set up qemu/KVM with libvirt over SSH
18:34<blimpy>i've installed dropbear as my SSH server, and now i'm trying to connect to libvirt
18:35<blimpy>libvirtd is running, my user is in the kvm and libvirt groups, and i get a "no authentication agent" error from virt-manager when i'm trying to connect to it.
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18:38<@somiaj>blimpy: when I use virsh I have to append qemu:///system as the server I set to as it defaults to qemu:///session which is only my users session. Also have you logedout/back in since you added yourself to the groups?
18:38<blimpy>yep, many many times
18:39<blimpy>somiaj: the URI that virt-manager defaults to is qemu+ssh://jacob@gossamer/system
18:39<blimpy>jacob being my username and gossamer being my hostname
18:40<@somiaj>I have only ever used libvirt locally, unsure what is needed to do it remotely. When you said you added yourself to the right groups, was this done on the client or server machine (or both)?
18:41<blimpy>on the server
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18:41<blimpy>as that's the user i'm trying to connect to
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18:41<@somiaj>https://libvirt.org/auth.html might help
18:43<blimpy>i looked at that page
18:43<blimpy>it didn't really help
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18:43<blimpy>the weird thing is, i had this problem a long time ago as well, and the solution was something stupidly easy, but now i forget it.
18:44<@somiaj>There is a #libvirt channel on this network that may provide better help.
18:44<blimpy>hm
18:44<blimpy>there's only one person there besides me!
18:45<@somiaj>I'm unsure how to debug or what the default authentication agent should be, but I do see various bugs/forms/issues with getting it set up correctly, but none that are a clear do this.
18:45<@somiaj>maybe I recall the name of the channel wrong.
18:45<blimpy>it's #virt
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18:45<@somiaj>yea it is just #virt
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18:49<jmcnaught>blimpy: to me your error sounds like it is complaining about lack of ssh-agent. Are you using keys?
18:50<blimpy>i can connect to it via a normal ssh client, and the first time i connected it did tell me if i wanted to accept this key
18:50<blimpy>so it's using keys i guess
18:50<jmcnaught>blimpy: that would be the host key that you are accepting. SSH can also use client keys as a method of authentication (instead of passwords)
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18:51<blimpy>openssh prompts me for a password every time i try to connect
18:51<jmcnaught>so i always use SSH keys, and i'm not sure how virt-manager would handle connecting over SSH if there are no client keys
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18:52<jmcnaught>it looks like the virt-manager package suggest a package called ssh-askpass, however ideally you'd start using SSH keys instead of passwords for authentication (because it's not that hard, and it's way more secure)
18:54<blimpy>it's not really complaining about that though, here's the full error: http://paste.debian.net/794949/
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18:58<jmcnaught>blimpy: have you made any changes to libvirt configuration files? which release of debian is on the server?
18:59<blimpy>jessie, and i haven't changed any files
19:00<jmcnaught>blimpy: why are you using dropbear on the remote instead of openssh-server? If you SSH to the remote, can you run "virsh -c qemu:///system" ?
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19:02<blimpy>i don't know, i thought dropbear was lighter
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19:02<blimpy>jacob@gossamer:~$ virsh -c qemu:///system
19:02<blimpy>error: failed to connect to the hypervisor
19:02<blimpy>error: authentication failed: no agent is available to authenticate
19:03<jmcnaught>i don't think openssh-server is particularly heavy
19:03<blimpy>it seems like it's not an SSH issue, just a config issue
19:04<jmcnaught>blimpy: so this might be related, though it should be fixed for jessie: #765045
19:04<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/765045 in libvirt-daemon-system (closed, sid, jessie): «[libvirt-clients] error: authentication failed: no agent is available to authenticate»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-10-13; last modified: 2014-11-22.
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19:05<day_>hi
19:05<day_>any one here
19:06<jmcnaught>blimpy: that looks like it has to do with policykit, which i only know a little about. it could be that dropbear is setting up the same environment that openssh-server would
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19:07<blimpy>hm
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19:10<jmcnaught>blimpy: i would disabling dropbear, installing openssh-server, and checking if that alone fixes it
19:10<jmcnaught>*would consider
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19:14<cyberoptiq>have a question if I'm not interrupting anything......
19:14<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: just ask
19:14<cyberoptiq>just installed latest Debian 8.4.* and my wireless isn't working....Lenovo X230 laptop
19:15<cyberoptiq>wired connection works fine.....
19:15<cyberoptiq>obviously
19:15<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: many wired cards require non-free firmware which is not included in debian main.
19:15<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: what wifi card do you have? And do you mind installing non-free firmware?
19:15<cyberoptiq>exactly the message I saw......
19:16<cyberoptiq>as long as wireless works I don't if it's free or not....
19:16<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: in this case it is just a matter of the hardware manufactures give us the right to distribute the firmware but not the right to modify it. I use it on my laptop.
19:16<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: lets figure out what wifi card you have, lspci should tell you what chipset your wifi card uses.
19:17<cyberoptiq>was just going to check that...been a while since done installs so a little rusty.....
19:18<cyberoptiq>Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04)
19:18<blast007>that's the wired connection
19:18<@somiaj>that looks like your wired card, check your wifi
19:18<cyberoptiq>thought so....let me check again.....
19:19<cyberoptiq>would this be it: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
19:19<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: no, if you want you can paste the whole output of lspci at paste.debian.net
19:19<cyberoptiq>or this one: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)
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19:20<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: that is it, and was I thoguht it would be, it will require the firmware-iwlwifi package which is in non-free
19:20<blimpy>jmcnaught: switching to openssh didn't do anthing
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19:20<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: this means you will need to ensure non-free is enabled, then install that package, then reboot (or just unload and reload the wifi module)
19:20<cyberoptiq>also the message I saw during install...
19:20<@somiaj>!non-free
19:20<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
19:21<@somiaj>!non-free sources
19:21<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
19:21<cyberoptiq>I guess thru the synaptics package manager??
19:21<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: you can do it through synaptics I think, I would just modify /etc/apt/soruces.list personally.
19:22<cyberoptiq>not that savvy....
19:22<cyberoptiq>although if you can give me an idea of whats involved I should be able to figure it out....
19:22<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: in this case it is easy, 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and then change 'main' to 'main contrib nonfree' at the end of each line
19:22<@somiaj>assuming using gnome and gedit, you can replace gedit with your faviorte text editor.
19:23<cyberoptiq>gotcha
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19:24<cyberoptiq>gedit works fine for me.....
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19:25<cyberoptiq>will try that and check back my results.....million thanks, somiaj
19:25<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: I am going to head out, but after you finish editing the file run
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19:26<@somiaj>cyberoptiq: 'apt-get update' followed by 'apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi' then reboot (easiest way to load the firmware)
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19:35<jmcnaught>blimpy: that's too bad. did you check that the packages mentioned in that bug report above are installed? If you have been installing packages with recommends disabled for example you could be missing some functionality
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19:36<blimpy>when i look at the packages i installed they don't have any recommends
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19:40<jmcnaught>blimpy: but have you done something like disabling recommends in your apt config? I'm asking because you have dropbear instead of openssh, so you might have attempted to get a "minimal" system this way
19:40<blimpy>nope
19:40<blimpy>i think i know what the problem is
19:41<jmcnaught>oh yeah?
19:41<blimpy>libvirt autoconfigs based on what hypervisors are already on your system
19:41<blimpy>i installed libvirt before i installed qemu-kvm
19:41<blimpy>nope.
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19:42<blimpy>oh, i know
19:42<blimpy>i added my user to group "libvirt" and not "libvirtd"
19:42<blimpy>i'm such an idiot
19:43<blimpy>i knew the solution was dead easy, i made the mistake before, i just forgot what mistake it was...
19:43<blimpy>oh.
19:43<jmcnaught>i didn't think there was even a libvirtd group.. did you create it or something?
19:44<blimpy>i didn't
19:44<blimpy>the wiki said there was a lbvirtd group on ubuntu so i just assumed it was on debian as well
19:44<blimpy>it doesn't exist apparently
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19:44<blimpy>so libvirt must have been the correct group
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19:44<jmcnaught>libvirt is the correct group on Debian
19:46<blimpy>okay
19:46<blimpy>i just added myself to the libvirt group again
19:46<blimpy>and now it works for whatever reason
19:47<blimpy>idk what i did but it works, so that's good
19:47<cyberoptiq>somiaj - I made the changes in the sources list, ran the apt-get update, but still no wireless....
19:47<jmcnaught>blimpy: presumably it was adding yourself to the correct group that did the trick.
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19:48<cyberoptiq>went into the synaptics package manager and didn't see anything listed for my wireless controller.....
19:48<jmcnaught>blimpy: when you added the user to the wrong "libvirtd" group you should have gotten an error
19:48<blimpy>jmcnaught: but i added myself into the libvirt group before
19:48<blimpy>i even logged on to this net
19:48<jmcnaught>blimpy: your timeline has me confused, but i'm glad you got it working
19:48<blimpy>before i even logged on to this net*
19:49<blimpy>:P
19:49<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: the package you needed to install is firmware-iwlwifi, you were updating sources.list to add the non-free section to make the package available
19:49<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: so try to find that package and install it, then reboot
19:50<cyberoptiq>correct jmcaught but it's not listed.....
19:50<cyberoptiq>but I'll check again.....
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19:50<cyberoptiq>jmcnaught - it's not listed.....
19:51<cyberoptiq>I just checked again.....
19:51<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: can you please put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list file on http://paste.debian.net/ for us to peer review it?
19:51<cyberoptiq>ok
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19:53<cyberoptiq>jmcnaught - done
19:54<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: and the link please? ;)
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19:54<cyberoptiq>oh sorry
19:54<cyberoptiq>http://paste.debian.net/794956/
19:55<cyberoptiq>jmnaught - it's been a while since I've done a Linux install....please bear with me....appreciate your patience and assistance.....
19:55<cyberoptiq>more of a hobby/past time for me.....
19:55<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: okay that looks fine. you may also want to add "contrib non-free" to the ends of lines 11,12,15, and 16 (just like you did on 8 and 9) but it's not a big deal
19:56<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: did you run "apt-get update" (or click the update button in synaptic) after making the changes to sources.list?
19:56<cyberoptiq>was going to but since it said security I didn't think it would need it.....
19:56<cyberoptiq>I ran the update via the command line....
19:57<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: it's very rare that packages in non-free would get security updates, but it could happen
19:57<cyberoptiq>gotcha....
19:57<cyberoptiq>will keep that in mind.....
19:57<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: what does running "apt-get policy firmware-iwlwifi" show?
19:57<cyberoptiq>let me run it and see.....
19:58<cyberoptiq>got the following: Invalid operation policy
19:58<cyberoptiq>root maybe??
19:58<jmcnaught>hah oh i'm sorry i meant "apt-cache policy firmware-iwlwifi"
19:58<jmcnaught>this command shows you if a package is installed, which version, and also which version is the candidate to be installed
19:59<cyberoptiq>oh ok...got it...let me run it and see.....
19:59<cyberoptiq>firmware-iwlwifi:
19:59<cyberoptiq> Installed: (none)
19:59<cyberoptiq> Candidate: 0.43
19:59<cyberoptiq> Version table:
19:59<cyberoptiq> 0.43 0
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20:00<cyberoptiq>jmcnaught - will post it to pastebin again.....
20:01<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: oops :) sorry i should have mentioned that there's a bot that kicks if you paste more than two lines
20:01<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: no need, this time you can try "apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi" (it's there to be installed)
20:01<jmcnaught>i don't know why synaptic doesn't see it, but i don't use synaptic
20:01<cyberoptiq>here it is: http://paste.debian.net/794958/
20:01<cyberoptiq>ok...I'll try that.....
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20:03<cyberoptiq>jmcnaught - it's running.....
20:03<cyberoptiq>done
20:03<cyberoptiq>should I run apt-get update again??
20:03<cyberoptiq>or just reboot??
20:04<jmcnaught>cyberoptiq: just reboot. "apt-get update" is to update your local copy of the package lists
20:04<cyberoptiq>ok...thought so....will reboot now and see what happens.....appreciate your help.....
20:05<jmcnaught>you're welcome
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20:16<cyberoptiq>jmcnaught - the wireless is working but it's not connecting but that's something I can fiddle with later.....it's probably something with the MAC address....appreciate your help......
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20:23<cyberoptiq>somiaj; jmcnaught - wireless is now working.....had a couple numbers wrong....appreciate both your assistance......
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20:50<azuulzarate>hola
20:53<@somiaj>!es
20:53<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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20:54<azuulzarate>Hola?
20:54<azuulzarate>HOLA?
20:54<azuulzarate>UE
20:55<azuulzarate>IEJDV
20:55<azuulzarate>FVWE
20:55<azuulzarate>BV
20:55<azuulzarate>WERBWER
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21:42<sean>hi
21:42<storge>hi
21:42<sean>how are you?
21:42<storge>excellent. and you?
21:42<sean>Great
21:42<sean>Im just debuggin my server
21:42<sean>Hmm...
21:42<sean>oh!
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21:42<sean>hi
21:43<sney>if you have a support question you can ask here but please don't just make noise
21:43<sean>ok
21:43<sean>yeah umm..
21:43<sean>so..
21:43<storge>sean: #debian-offtopic perhaps
21:43<storge>i think it exists
21:43<sean>Im using irc-hybrid and its not working
21:44<sean>Im using xchat
21:44<sean>but i have NO idea how to connect
21:44<sean>wait.. the documentation!
21:44<sney>use hexchat instead, it's up to date and more secure and the docs are better
21:45<sean>oh ok!
21:45<sean>thanks!
21:45<sean>just a minute
21:45<sean>Im going offline...
21:45<sean>wont see the chat for a moment
21:45<sney>you don't need to narrate every part of it.
21:45<sean>oh yeah good point
21:45<sean>bye
21:45<sean>just a sec
21:46<storge>sney: i press enter after every few words in irc. for efficiency.
21:46<sney>heh
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