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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-08-30

---Logopened Tue Aug 30 00:00:12 2016
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00:44<sbo>someone can help me to identify why my debian8 is restarting X when i try to play any video (web or local) ?
00:47<Arcade>sbo, have you looked at /var/log/messages perhaps?
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00:54<sbo>seems to be something regarding to libva Arcade
00:54<sbo>"va_getDriveName() failed with unkown libva error,driver_name=(null)"
00:55<Arcade>ah Video Acceleration
00:58<Arcade>sbo, your gpu is intel or amd?
00:58<sbo>yeah, i have a stupid nvidia with intel 5500, it's a dell vostro notebook
01:00<Arcade>sbo, did the laptop work prior to any updates?
01:01<sbo>i really don't know, i install ubuntu and some softwares for meshing and post-processing for CFD analysis , after that i've installed the nvidia driver
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01:02<sbo>then my xorg messed up, i purge nvidia and xorg back
01:02<sbo>sorry.. ubuntu == debian 8
01:03<Arcade>so you removed the nvidia driver after installing
01:03<sbo>yes
01:05<sbo>now i have x working, but without the "software rendering mode" warning after fresh debian install..
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01:06<Arcade>and you deleted the xorg file
01:06<sbo>yes
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01:07<sbo>the nvidia-xconfig was useless
01:07<Arcade>it seems the issue is Video Acceleration is not being enabled at all from what I can look via google
01:08<sbo>yes, but why debian its not warning me anymore about software rendering mode?
01:09<Arcade>try this sbo #remove the xorg then reboot and run #Xorg -configure
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01:10<sbo>you mean delete xorg.conf?
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01:11<Arcade>./etc/X11/xorg.conf
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01:18<Arcade>sbo, is X now working or crashing still
01:18<sbo>still crashing when i try to play video
01:19<sbo>but now the software rendering mode returns after x restart
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01:19<sbo>man i really mess up this thing... oh boy..
01:19<Arcade>yeah the nvidia driver + noveau driver don't play well
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01:20<sbo>im reading about bumblebee
01:20<Arcade>I was just about to say something on that :)
01:21<sbo>i will give a try
01:21<Arcade>let me see if there is something that you can put in your x config to enable video accel
01:21<Arcade>unless you want to try bb
01:24<Arcade>try bb first and then see
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01:27<anonymous>hello
01:29<Gryllida>Hi anonymous. Please also ask your question straight away.
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03:30-!-mgv is "Marius Gavrilescu" on #apparmor #debian-offtopic @+#mindcoding @#fonbot #debian-perl #debian
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03:36<littlefaggot>hi im a little faggot
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03:45<txgvnn>Hello everyone, Do you know any website statistics about percent using Debian for server, desktop ?
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03:51<stephen0001>txgvnn: https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all
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03:54<txgvnn>stephen0001: thank you, have other?
03:54<stephen0001>just google it
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05:09<LinuxER_LY>Hey ,, Am using Jessie , And it is cool .. Am Asking ,,, Can i Update my Gnome to 3.20 ???
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05:15<gonzalo>hi everybody!! I have this problem: "modprobe: module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep" any solution?
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05:19<pkPC5>hello all
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05:25<grexminus>hello!
05:29<grexminus>is there really a difference between the mini.iso and the netinst.iso?
05:31<grexminus>.....
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05:37<grexminus>anyone?
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07:52<kiranos>Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
07:52<kiranos> bacula-client bacula-console bacula-fd bacula-sd
07:52<kiranos>this is wrongly saying I dont need bacula-sd
07:52<kiranos>I have tried apt-get install bacula-sd to remove it from no longer required but it doesnt take
07:52<kiranos>what should I do?
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08:05<bremner>kiranos: can you pastebin (e.g. to paste.debian.net) the output from "apt-get install bacula-sd"
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08:14<kiranos>bremner: http://pastebin.com/19HYeH0C
08:14<kiranos>I did a new dist-upgrade after and as you can see its listed once again
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08:16<blast007>!bat
08:16<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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09:43<demetris>hello
09:43<demetris>am facing some weird issues with my audio out
09:44<demetris>videos dont have audio and i have 2 hdmi out selectable devices
09:44<demetris>either works
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09:44<demetris>am on latest jessie
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09:46<txt>The information in the online package database is inconsistent. https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=midori shows no midori in jessie but https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=midori shows it.
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09:47<bremner>it's available in e.g. jessie-backports.
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10:09<petn-randall>txt: Indeed. However, if you click on one of the links on your 2nd link, it will show you that it doesn't exist there.
10:10*petn-randall wonders if midori was removed at some point.
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10:31<TotallyNotKim>Hey folks! I'm in the progress of upgrading from wheezy to jessie, userland is updated to 8.5 and currently running with 3.0.2-4 kernel. Booting with 3.16.0 drops to initramfs, even with root= and/or init= set. Any known incompatibilities?
10:31<TotallyNotKim>no md raids, drbd etc used
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10:33<@somiaj>TotallyNotKim: the upgrade should ahve brought systemd in. did you read the release notes on issues that could happen with systemd? Did you fully update to systemd (seems strange that the 3.0.2-4 kernel (not a wheezy kernel by the way) is working with systemd
10:33<@somiaj>,kernels
10:33<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc7-686 (4.7~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1)
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10:33<@somiaj>!relese notes
10:34<@somiaj>!wheezy->jessie
10:34<@somiaj>!wheezy->jessie
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10:34<hendrikL>!release notes
10:34<dpkg>Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes . See also <wheezy->jessie>, <install guide>.
10:35<@somiaj>Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj
10:37<TotallyNotKim>well I replaced the apt sources with the jessie ones, updated apt, ran apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade
10:37<TotallyNotKim>brb reading
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10:42<petn-randall>TotallyNotKim: 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' should be correct. Note that update != upgrade. Also, you should check if it threw any errors and aborted.
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10:43<TotallyNotKim>petn-randall: did apt-get update first, forgot to mention, and the upgrade did not throw any errors
10:43<TotallyNotKim>never head of 'script' before
10:44<petn-randall>TotallyNotKim: But dist-upgrade did?
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10:44<TotallyNotKim>will absolutly use this in the future
10:44<TotallyNotKim>no neither
10:44<TotallyNotKim>no errors thrown
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10:55<TotallyNotKim>read the release notes, nothing that affects me besides nofail on some fstab entries, but that didn't help either
10:56<TotallyNotKim>the exact message from initramfs is 'Can't find /root in /etc/fstab'
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10:57<TotallyNotKim>but the real file is never mounted
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11:08<amoe>Is it possible to break lines (ie continue them on a new line) in the update-exim4.conf.conf file?
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16:37<sicelo>for my pc, i have a 9.2G / and currently have only 400MB free. when i play videos through firefox, the rootfs basically gets full. i guess resizing partitions is not going to be 'cheap' ... is there something that i can do about FF? i don't really have problems with other software.
16:38<sicelo>i have tried changing cache in FF to my home dir. but that didn't help.
16:39<beatdown>Isn't the cache stored in either /home or /tmp ?
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16:41<sicelo>here is my df -h ... http://paste.debian.net/796084/
16:41<sicelo>when a large video is playing via FF, / gets filled up
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16:43<sicelo>hmm, maybe is hould 'lsof' while playing, so i can see exactly where FF puts the file
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16:47<LunaSela>sicelo: that might be helpful
16:48<sicelo> uses /var/tmp .. so that's how it fills up my /
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16:54<LunaSela>sicelo: "about:cache" shows a directory in home?
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17:01<sicelo>yes, i had done that
17:01<sicelo>fixed now: i set $TMPDIR to point to my /home :)
17:02<sicelo>FF honors that, thankfullu
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17:03<sicelo>i had tried TMP before, which didn't help
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17:04<LunaSela>sicelo: probably other applications will write their tmp to home now, too
17:05<sicelo>i'm okay with that, as it has enough space (for now)
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17:06<sicelo>i'll reinstall the box sometime too .. and will partition differently then
17:06<beatdown>Hard disks are extremely cheap nowadays
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17:20<LunaSela>sicelo: I hope you do not have to reinstall just to partition differently. Depending on your current layout, there might be less destructive ways to grow rootfs
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17:23<sicelo>thanks. yes, you are right. but i have a couple of other reasons to reinstall
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17:41<adrian15>This is a Jessie installation where I want to get the boot-repair package source code from this repo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu . I don't want to get the source package as root. I have already done: http://serverfault.com/a/447536 . Now the problem I get is: http://paste.debian.net/796175/ .
17:43<adrian15>So as I have a "Some packages could not be authenticated" I guess that I need that ppa key into somewhere... but where exactly? Can I instruct apt-key to update a keyring or something that I could then specify in my custom apt.conf ? Or is there any 'Do not care about authenticated packages' option that I could use?
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17:49<LunaSela>adrian15: you might try to "apt-key add" to add the key
17:50<adrian15>LunaSela: The problem is that I don't want that key to be in my system, the same way that I make sure apt.conf and apt.sources.list files are not in my system.
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17:52<LunaSela>adrian15: you mean you want to use the ".d" directory method?
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17:54<adrian15>LunaSela: The .d directory method is when you want to add additional repository entries without touching /etc/apt/sources.list . I use these instructions: http://serverfault.com/a/447536 so that I use a completely independent sources.list file.
17:55<adrian15>LunaSela: Now the problem that I have is that I don't have that repository key as trusted (I guess). So I need to somehow tell my apt-get command (or pseudo configuration) to trust that key but without polluting my system apt-get installation.
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17:59<LunaSela>adrian15: adding it to trusted.gpg under your non-system config directory does not work? Then you probably need to redirect that file too
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18:00<parrot>what to do :/
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18:00<stelios>hey
18:00<parrot>hello ;P
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18:00<stelios>new in debian
18:00<parrot>where u from//
18:00<adrian15>LunaSela: Going to search info about trusted.gpg and see if it helps.
18:01<parrot>Me 2
18:01<parrot>just got parrot o/s on my raspberry pi 2 >P
18:01<stelios>nice job
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18:02<parrot>seems to run faster than rasbian o/s
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18:02<parrot>and more secure >D hehehe
18:02<LunaSela>adrian15: Dir::Etc::Trusted might be the configuration option to set the path to a trusted file
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18:03<adrian15>LunaSela: Humm... That it's not documented in man apt.conf .
18:03<parrot>what is root password on parrot ?? anybody
18:04<bremner>I guess you need to find the right support channel
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18:06<adrian15>LunaSela: Ok, that configuration option is from apt-key. But how to use it? apt-get has a -c switch for setting up a custom configuration file. apt-key does not have one according to its man page.
18:07<adrian15>LunaSela: Going to do some wild tests and see what I get. Thank you again. Maybe it's just a matter of editing apt.conf .
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18:08<LunaSela>adrian15: No problem. I hope this works. I'm going to bed now
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18:23<Arcade>can someone remind me again: I assume I need to create a bug request to have steam updated in jessie
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18:27<@somiaj>Arcade: you shouldn't need to update steam in jessie, pluss this is non-free software.
18:28<@somiaj>Arcade: Just install the steam package in jessie, when you run it, it installs an updated version in that users $HOME directory and works just fine
18:28<@somiaj>Arcade: also debian is a frozen system, jessie doens't get version updates per policy. But in this case it won't matter, just run the binary in jessie and it will update itself.
18:28<@somiaj>,v steam
18:28<judd>No package named 'steam' was found in amd64.
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18:30<Arcade>yeah I know the updater worked I just did not know what packages can be considered for updates in Jessie
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18:31<Arcade>I am on a slow connection so anything helps :) thank you
18:32<@somiaj>none, debian releases are frozen systems. Unless it is a security issue or grave bug, but even then since steam is non-free debian can't really fix these due to steams license.
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18:33<@somiaj>There are rare situations in which packages get updated in jessie. Webbrowsers are one, and sometimes a security fix requires it. But there was one package that had that issue in jessie that broke lots of setups due to a version bump, debian tries very hard to avoid this if at all possible.
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18:36<Arcade>yeah understood somiaj . If I need something I can work it myself or use backports :)
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19:32<alumno>hola
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19:48<diefi>ok, why do I need to login to use debian8.5 live cd and what is the login?
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19:50<bremner>maybe try asking on #debian-live
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19:52<@themill>!live login
19:52<dpkg>The debian-live images for Debian 8 "Jessie" have a user account configured for you to use. username: user ; password: live
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20:02<diefi>thx
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20:08<kyhwana_>bvahasdf
20:09<bremner>wie bitte?
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21:24<jemadux>how to make gpg key with full entropy ?
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23:31<bit_flipper>I need help with sane/scanimage
23:31<bit_flipper>Details here: http://paste.debian.net/796844
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