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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-09-05

---Logopened Mon Sep 05 00:00:55 2016
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00:33<yuta>I set fq_codel . but it doen't seems doing traffic shaping.
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00:51<david>hey
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02:16<ars>how do I disable initrd when building a kernel? I see $INITRD in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools but I can't figure out where to set it
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03:32<srini>hi im getting unknown display (1024x768 only),. How can i get the higher resolution, i m using debian 8
03:33<srini>Pls help
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03:51<TotallyNotKim>srini: depends, but you could try xrandr or what ever is compatible with your setup
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03:57<TotallyNotKim>I'm running into a bug in initramfs-tools which is fixed in the git repo since 2015-12-22 and was released with v0.121, however stable and backports are on v0.120, is there a build package somewhere else?
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04:20<MarkedOne>Hello! Recently linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 has got update (Debian Jessie) I am curious what has been fixed. I can't find it myself. Thanks.
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04:24<Bastien1>Hello. Is there a way to choose the default originating IPv6 address ? I have multiple prefixes, from multiple ISP, but I'd like to favor one over the others
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04:26<jipege>MarkedOne: just see https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3659
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04:28<TotallyNotKim>Bastien1: Are they all connected to individual interfaces?
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04:29<Bastien1>no, all prefixes come from the same interface, connected on the router
04:30<MarkedOne>jipege: Thank you. Exactly what i was looking for. :)
04:31<duclicsic>Bastien1: you can specify the source address to be used on a per-route basis. just modify or add/replace your default route but include the "src" parameter. 'man ip-route'
04:33<jipege>MarkedOne: you're welcome
04:33<MarkedOne>Another question. Should I install recommended package "irqbalance"? I have Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B950 @ 2.10GHz.
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04:35<Bastien1>duclicsic: thanks !
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04:37<TotallyNotKim>MarkedOne: as the description says it could lead to better performance, you have 2 cores so why not give it a shot
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04:37<TotallyNotKim>I doubt you can 'feel' the change
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04:39<MarkedOne>TotallyNotKim: I know. But why is it not installed by default? :D
04:41<petn-randall>MarkedOne: Recommended packages are installed by default, and the linux kernel package recommends irqbalance.
04:41<petn-randall>MarkedOne: Unless you ran aptitude with -R or apt-get with --no-install-recommends, that should have been installed automagically.
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04:42<MarkedOne>petn-randall: I am using "aptitude upgrade". But nvm, that is not a problem. :)
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04:43<petn-randall>MarkedOne: Then it should come by default. The reason its only recommended and not depended upon, is that the kernel (even MP machines) runs fine without it.
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04:50<MarkedOne>petn-randall: That's cool! :) I am running BOINC so my CPU is at 100% most of the day. And I cannot notice unresponsiveness. So CPU balancing is fine. Only heavy read/write to HDD will always lags my machine xD.
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05:13<student2>hi there :)
05:13<random>HELLO BLYAT
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05:14<student2>how are u guys?
05:14<random>CYKA IDI NAHOI
05:14<JustME>asd
05:14<JustME>Soum tu :D
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05:14<nikdo>ale tvoje máma je tu
05:14<random>baxCUC
05:14<JustME>chcipni mrdko
05:14<student2>tvoje máma by se sem nevešla
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05:15<JustME>tendle chat nikdo nesmi videt XDDD
05:15<student2>nikdo nikdy :D
05:15<random>never ever
05:15<student2>ever never
05:15<JustME>hej ty pico hubena nespi
05:15<student2>speak english idiot..
05:15<random>hej ty šašku tlustá fck off
05:16<student2>i go bot with random
05:16<student2>random pick sona please
05:16<JustME>mid or feed
05:16<student2>omg...
05:16<student2>or i go jungle
05:16<random>FEED OR FEED
05:16<JustME>me sona
05:16<student2>hashtag PICK VI
05:16<random>LETS PLAY CYKA2
05:16<student2>LOCk
05:16<student2>AKE smite and flash
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05:17<JustME>fuck you i go play minecraft!!!!
05:17<student2>omg...
05:17<random>i go feed you noobs.... fck my team
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05:17<student2>drop to bronz...
05:17<JustME>all XD
05:17<student2>i go gank top..
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05:17<random>i go p90 rush B BLYAAAAT
05:17<student2>what?
05:17<JustME>you fuckin PL kid
05:17<student2>Just ME, come help me with drake pls
05:17<random>CYKA BLAYT YOU PIDER
05:18<JustME>ok :3
05:18<random>Kurwa jebana mać
05:18<student2>debhelper, u wanna play with us?
05:18<OdyX>!debian
05:18<dpkg>hmm... debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
05:18<OdyX>!topic
05:18<random>!toxic
05:18<JustME>XD
05:18<student2>!salty
05:18<JustME>BaxIZI
05:18<dpkg>well, toxic is #del#
05:18<OdyX>Please behave.
05:18<JustME>nope
05:18<OdyX>This is a Debian-support channel.
05:19<petn-randall>hi student2, random, JustME, this is the Debian support channel. Please check the /topic.
05:19<JustME>but we are students and we go troll XD
05:19<student2>no we dnt
05:19<nikdo>No I'll check your mother :3
05:19<student2>have nice day , i go afk
05:19<student2>and sorry for them.... :P
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05:20<JustME>BaxČus
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05:20<random>I'll check your hole
05:20<random>baxČUS
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05:35<willemb>When booting the linux 3.16 on wheezy, installed from the backports repo, I see fusectl mounted on /sys/fs/fuse/connections by default. It wasn't there on 3.2 . What/why is it?
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06:33<stevenm__>anyone here a user of pure-ftpd? would you say setting -S 21 (aka --bind 21) is pointless? i mean it'll be listening on port 21 by default? (or does -S retrict it to just 21? could it listen on other ports?)
06:35<duclicsic>unless you intend for it to listen on a specific IP:PORT then using -S is indeed pointless
06:36<duclicsic>it probably binds to 0.0.0.0:21 by default
06:36<duclicsic>and of course it can and indeed will listen on other ports
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06:45<stevenm__>duclicsic, I know it *can* listen on other ports - but unless told otherwise (i.e. default config) i'm wanting to be sure it only listens on 21
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06:46<stevenm__>which would make -S 21 pointless as it wouldn't change anything
06:46<stevenm__>i mean I guess comparing 'netstat -l' before/after would help?
06:46<stevenm__>although isn't 21 udp?
06:46<duclicsic>running it without that argument will cause it to listen on only port 21
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06:47<stevenm__>duclicsic, how do you know?
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06:47<duclicsic>all ports from 0-65535 are available in TCP and UDP
06:47<duclicsic>stevenm__: because that is how network services work
06:47<duclicsic>and i've used pure-ftpd before
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06:47<stevenm__>no what I mean is... what part of pure-ftpd makes you believe that it is only configured by default to listen on 21?
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06:48<duclicsic>stevenm__: to do it any other way would be absurd
06:48<grawity>given that port 21 is the default IANA-assigned port for FTP, why would it be configured otherwise
06:48<duclicsic>it's an ftp daemon
06:48<@themill>and in the time you've argued, you could have tested this
06:48<duclicsic>ftp default control session port is tcp/21
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06:50<duclicsic>the -S argument in pure-ftpd is there mostly to change the IP address it binds to, but it does of course give the option to run on a port other than the default. network services like ftp generally don't listen on multiple ports unless you specifically configure them to do so,.
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06:50<duclicsic>ftp being a minor exception due to the separate control and data sessions
06:50<stevenm__>so a line like 'echo 21 > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/Bind' is pointless
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06:51<grawity>does pure-ftpd load FTPS support by default?
06:51<stevenm__>as have been about 80% of the conf files this guide is saying to do
06:51<duclicsic>no idea
06:51<stevenm__>i'm just elimating them one by one
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06:51<stevenm__>grawity, well see - that is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about
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06:51<stevenm__>the pure-ftpd doc/README doesn't mention what it listens to by defulat
06:52<stevenm__>just what -S actually does
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06:52<grawity>that said, if it does, then -S in general wouldn't make much sense to have
06:52<duclicsic>well start it up and run 'netstat -ntlp | grep pure'
06:52<duclicsic>you will find what it listens on
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06:52<stevenm__>21 on v6 and v4
06:53<stevenm__>ok I'm satisfied :)
06:53<stevenm__>thanks all
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07:07<willemb>I am seeing very high load spikes on some of our servers under 3.16. Machine usually idles around 2.5. THen, suddenly, load spikes to 120, and won't come down unless I revert to the 3.2 kernel. Has anyone else seen something like that?
07:07<willemb>Debian old_stable, by the way
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07:09<willemb>according to my munin graphs, iowait percentage went up to 626 at the time, so it MUST be an IO issue
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07:46<gabriel_>ddd
07:46<gabriel_>sorry
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07:53<Rincewind>Can anyone maybe tell me why when I try to execute a program like for example fdisk without sudo it just tells me it can't find the program instead of that I need to run it with privileges?
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07:54<Anarka>because your user doesnt have /sbin in its $PATH
07:54<Rincewind>I googled it but most people seem to have the opposite problem
07:54<Rincewind>Oh that was quick thanks
07:54<Anarka>if you try /sbin/fdisk you should get another msg
07:55<Rincewind>I did, he asked me for [OPTION]... [DEVICE]
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07:55<Rincewind>nice
07:55<Rincewind>thanks
07:55<Anarka>np :)
07:55<Rincewind>This is my first time setting up a system with debootstrap
07:56<Rincewind>it's alittle overwhelming ^^
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07:59<amber>how do i install catalyst 13.1 legacy to debian 8
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08:00<Anarka>!amd
08:00<dpkg>Advanced Micro Devices is a semiconductor manufacturer. For support of ATI/AMD graphics hardware, ask me about <ati>. See also <amd64>, <coolnquiet>, <k7>.
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08:19<gargaml>hi
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08:20<gargaml>I'm trying to set a bridge up but each time I add the eth0 interface it freezes the system
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08:20<gargaml>I'd like to connect some vms working over kvm to the internet in the end
08:21<gargaml>so currently the host machine has an eth0 interface
08:21<gargaml>(with a working internet access)
08:21<gargaml>but each time I do brctl addif br0 eth0 it freezes
08:21<gargaml>(I did a brctl addbr br0 before)
08:22<gargaml>I've been following many different guides to do but I can't manage to make it work...
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08:23<gargaml>are there some precautions to take before using brctl ?
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09:07<TotallyNotKim>gargaml: Try deleting the bridge first, so you have a fresh start, then add a new one with brctl and add an entry in /etc/networking/interfaces and set bridge_ports eth0. Do not configure eth0 itself but copy it's settings over to br0
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09:07<TotallyNotKim>then you can down eth0 and up say br0 and set your vms to use br0
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09:09<TotallyNotKim>add the created bridge to /etc/netwrok/interfaces*
09:10<yuta> how to set fq_codel and tbf at same time ?
09:11<gargaml>TotallyNotKim: I did not remove the eth0 configuration from the file...
09:11<TotallyNotKim>that's the problem than
09:11<gargaml>so it's actually part of the bridge configuration
09:11<TotallyNotKim>the bridge will take over the confguration for eth0
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09:11<gargaml>nice, thank you very much
09:11<TotallyNotKim>no problem
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09:27<yuta> I want to do traffic shaping. fq_codel is default good algorythm for linux bsd. but at the same time , I want to set tbf for traffic shaping , but tc resets fq_codel when I set tbf. I need help.
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09:48<gargaml>Now that I have a working bridge
09:49<gargaml>I'm trying to use virt-install to install a debian system as a vm
09:50<TotallyNotKim>what do you plan to use as host
09:50<TotallyNotKim>oh nvm, let me check that
09:50<gargaml>the host is a debian stable
09:50<gargaml>running kvm
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09:50<gargaml>and libvirtd
09:51<TotallyNotKim>yeah just never heard of virt-manager before
09:51<TotallyNotKim>I could help with proxmox and lxc haha
09:51<TotallyNotKim>that's what we use
09:51<TotallyNotKim>and it runs fine
09:51<TotallyNotKim>(not implying that virt-manager is bad, never used it before)
09:51<gargaml>I hesitated between lxc and this so I'm doing some tests
09:52<gargaml>but now I'm getting this error (which might not be related to kvm)
09:52<gargaml>http://paste.debian.net/810216/
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09:53<gargaml>from I've seen on the net, it might come from qemu and the bridge but even after adding allow br0 in /etc/qemu/bridge.conf it doesn't seem to work...
09:53<TotallyNotKim>it looks like you have no connectity on the bridge
09:53<TotallyNotKim>have you verified internet access?
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09:53<gargaml>I'm using ssh to access the bridge
09:54<gargaml>and I can ping debian.org without issues
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09:54<gargaml>(from the machine used as a bridge)
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09:55<Anarka>virt-install -n 'web-server' --memory 1024 -s 32 --network br0 --cdrom debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso -v
09:56<Anarka>without bridge
09:56<gargaml>now I get this
09:57<Anarka>ohhh not that :p
09:57<gargaml>ERROR unsupported configuration: unknown interface type 'br0'
09:57<Anarka>virt-install -n 'web-server' --memory 1024 -s 32 --bridge=br0 --cdrom debian-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso -v
09:57<gargaml>without network then :-)
09:57<TotallyNotKim>that looks like the way to go hah
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09:58<gargaml>with --bridge=br0 I end up with the same error
09:59<gargaml>TotallyNotKim: I hope not :-)
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10:01<Anarka>seems you had right from start, you doing as root or the user has the right permissions ?
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10:06<gargaml>my user has right permissions
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10:06<gargaml>I added it to kvm and libvirt groups
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10:06<gargaml>result from the groups command
10:06<gargaml>js cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev libvirt kvm
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10:28<gargaml>I'm going to figure out where this error message comes from
10:28<gargaml>if someone has an idea, I'm still there
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11:00<mais>hello, I am trying to make my debian 8.5 standard machine autologin to my account when it starts. I followed this guide (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=123694) and everything worked nicely. I noticed (Edit 2, of the original post) that if I want an upgrade-proof solution I should implement auto-login differently. So I changed the file (/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service) back to its original state and tried th
11:00<mais>e second (Edit2) solution. (Note: folder /etc/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d didnt exist, so I created it). When I rebooted I got a black screen that I could do nothing. So I booted from a live usb and changed the file ( /etc/systemd/system/getty@tty1.service.d/override.conf) commenting out the first ExecStart line. Now I get this error when I boot -> "systemd[1]: getty@tty1.service has more than one ExecStart setting, which is only allowed
11:00<mais>for Type=oneshot services. Refusing". Any ideas? (Sorry for the long message)
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11:21<patently>how do I get sound working on debian stretch (fresh install)?
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11:24<musca>patently: topic says: testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net)
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11:29<ryan_>test
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11:40<mais>If anyone cares I found the solution here -> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=119348
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13:01<logithack1337>id like to overwrite my whole hdd with zeros. i came across the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda but the process has been running for hours. any ideas?
13:01<sney>it just takes time
13:01<mtn>logithack1337: it will take a long long time ;)
13:02<lostson>yeah go watch a few movies
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13:05<leandrogregory>yes, long time.
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13:06<Wind>Sup dudes
13:06<Wind>Could someone give me some advices?
13:07<Wind>I am need to connect some devices on linux but i cant find any support could anyone help me?
13:07<Wind>Are you guys even here?
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13:08<bremner>Wind: you need to be patient. And maybe ask a more specific question.
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13:08<Wind>sorry i need more to talk with someone than am specific question
13:09<Wind>i am kinda wanting to know if something is possible
13:09<bremner>what thing?
13:09<Wind>or even better viable
13:09<Wind>http://www.lazada.com.my/m0198132s-handheld-co2-carbon-dioxide-temperature-data-logger-meter-1069710.html
13:09<Wind>http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-TES-1361C-Datalogging-Humidity-Temperature-Meter-RS-232-interface-software-/251604363804
13:09<Wind>http://www.tes.com.tw/en/product_detail.asp?seq=355
13:09<Wind>connect these devices to my linux
13:10<Wind>they do not come with linux support in their cds
13:10<bremner>hard to say. it probably won't be easy.
13:10<sney>I have seen standalone sensors that communicate over snmp
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13:11<Wind>yeah
13:11<Wind>i am new in this job
13:11<Wind>they most use linux here
13:11<Wind>windows***
13:12<Wind>i am syggestd to use an raspberry to centralise these logs in one station but idk if it will be viable to implement
13:12<Wind>if i just had some starting point i could figure it out
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13:21<Wind>bremner: can you give me advice of an starting point for researches?
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13:21<bremner>Wind: write to the manufacturer and find out how much technical information they are willing to share.
13:22<Wind>Yeah i gonna do that
13:22<bremner>If, as is usual, the answer is none, I'd move on to a different device.
13:22<Wind>haha
13:22<bremner>Do you know about e.g. USB protocol?
13:23<Wind>My plan is , when i get more influent here, make one that englobe all these from scratch with raspberry
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13:23<Wind>not much
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13:23<Wind>But i am a good reader
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13:27<Wind>See you guys
13:27<Wind>thank you for the help
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13:30<logithack1337>mtn: how long is it approximately going to take? its a 500 gb hdd
13:30<mtn>logithack1337: no idea, never tried it. google might help you
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13:30<logithack1337>mtn: yeh ill have a look. thanks!
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13:53<bremner>any recommendations for a moderate priced ($300?) home theater-ish box to run kodi, maybe the evil netflix?
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13:54<sney>I have a little zotac zbox machine for that, it works alright
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13:57<petn-randall>bremner: I'd get a used Dell Precision or something for that.
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13:58<bremner>not so easy, living in the boondocks of canada
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14:01<petn-randall>bremner: You don't have the equivalent of ebay there?
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14:02<bremner>sure, I guess we do.
14:02<bremner>but anything crossing the border kills you
14:02<bremner>well, not literally.
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14:05<bremner>petn-randall: why dell precision? don't most of those come with nvidia cards?
14:05<sney>also power hog
14:05<sney>no reason to run a machine like that if all you're doing is hd video
14:06<sney>intel-nuc-or-equivalent is my recommendation. keep actual videos on a NAS
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14:07<petn-randall>bremner: That's just what I picked for my NAS/home theatre machine. Plus it has a nice chassis layout that makes it pleasant to hack on the hardware. But for 300$ you probably have a pretty large selection if you opt for used hardware.
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14:12<SloanOnLinux>Hey there
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14:25<R4F_Debian>Hi all
14:26<R4F_Debian>Hope it's everything gonna fine to Debian Warriors !
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16:57<parrot>hello?
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17:32<orenwf>hi all... I'm currently trying to boot debian 8 after a fresh install (formerly windows 10 partition) ... was able to finish the install and boot debian from grub (i think) however I am stuck on a black screen... any help appreciated
17:33<Spectrus>I'm going to be the smartass to ask if it shutdown
17:33<Spectrus>[I really hope that's the problem tbh, but you're not stupid because you asked for help and gave specifics]..
17:34<orenwf>hehe.. no it's running, tried switching display ports and not getting any screen display
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17:34<Spectrus>nothing at all? yikes..
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17:35<orenwf>tried restarting, selected the OS again from Grub, I get a "loading" text display
17:35<orenwf>then black screen
17:35<Spectrus>if nothing interrupted the install, I found a little something on linux mint that seems similar to your issue
17:35<Spectrus>I'll keep digging, but see if any of this can help
17:36<Spectrus>https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/842
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17:37<Spectrus>http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it This post explained that a user had a similar problem with debian, and rectified it.
17:38<orenwf>thanks for those
17:38<orenwf>im looking at editing the boot commands
17:38<orenwf>no clue what im doing but hey lets try it
17:38<Spectrus>Keep me updated in a private msg, if none of my suggestions work come back here xD
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18:28<blast007>orenwf: what graphics chip is in that system?
18:29<orenwf>i recently upgrade to a nvidia geforce 970
18:30<orenwf>i was able to use nvidia.modeset=0 edit to the boot
18:30<orenwf>and now im in the gui
18:30<orenwf>gnome
18:30<orenwf>but i am trying to find the proper system updates
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18:50<blumenkranz>Hello. I am having some trouble getting an AMDGPU card to work on Testing or Sid releases. Basically, once it reaches a certain point, an info message is thrown, which says something along the lines of "fb: changing to amdgpudrmfb from simple", and stays there, probably because the screen freezes. Disabling amdgpu module or using nomodeset allows me to boot into a shell like usual, but I would know how to fix it correctly. C
18:50<blumenkranz>For the record, Ubuntu 16.04.1 Live CD doesn't seem to suffer this problem.
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18:51<blast007>orenwf: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_352.79_.28via_jessie-backports.29
18:52<blast007>blumenkranz: which AMD specifically?
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18:52<blumenkranz>blast007: ASUS R9 280X
18:54<blast007>blumenkranz: you may just need to install firmware-linux-nonfree. if that doesn't help, you'll need to ask in #debian-next as this channel is just for stable.
18:54<blumenkranz>It's also the first time I try booting this minimal install. Already installed xorg, but didn't help much other than making rebooting through ctrl alt del slightly harder
18:54<blumenkranz>I will try doing that, thank you
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18:55<twitti>hi
18:55<twitti>i want ask
18:56<twitti>evry bady here
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18:56<twitti>hhhiii
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18:56<blast007>twitti: just ask your debian question
18:57<twitti>yup
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18:58<twitti>conky cant work with me
18:58<twitti>you fix this proplem
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19:00<blast007>not without more information
19:01<blumenkranz>blast007: Yeah, installing nonfree firmware solved it. A shame because I wanted this install to be completely free, but better this than not being able to use my computer at all
19:02<blumenkranz>In fact, I got this card because I expected it to be usable with the free driver alone, but oh well
19:02<blast007>blumenkranz: you could be mire selective and just have firmware-amd-graphics installed
19:02<blast007>the free driver still needs firmware for newish cards
19:03<blumenkranz>Do you know if this situation will be likely to change in the future?
19:03<blast007>iirc, some of the older ones still benefited from it but didn't require it
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19:04<blast007>doubtful. you'd have firmware somehwere, burned into the ROM on the device or loaded from a file by the driver.
19:05<blumenkranz>Wait, so amdgpu doesn't include any sort of firmware?
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19:06<blast007>I don't know. there's probably some there too.
19:07<blumenkranz>Hopefully they can implement most of the stuff in the free firmware some day
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20:55<orenwf>hey @blast007 thank you
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21:10<orenwf>i also discovered a script called smxi or a group of scripts as it were
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21:10<orenwf>http://smxi.org/site/smxi-story.htm#top
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21:11<orenwf>I am wondering if running this would sort out my display woes
21:11<bremner>probably not.
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21:12<bremner>you said you were having trouble updating nvidia drivers? which ones, free or proprietary?
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21:13<orenwf>well my problems were actually from the clean install of debian 8 stable over a former windows machine with a nvidia card
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21:14<orenwf>i followed the instructions on the debian install guide
21:14<orenwf>but when I chose to boot linux from grub I would get a black screen
21:15<orenwf>i edited the boot commands to include nvidia.modeset=0 and i was able to get into the GNOME desktop
21:15<orenwf>however my display settings are extremely low quality
21:16<orenwf>i am learning to use debian from scratch and I am trying to figure out how to get a working display driver that allows me to enjoy my nvidia 970 card near its full capability
21:17<orenwf>currently reading the user guide and browsing the wiki
21:18<bremner>I guess you could check if it is well supported by the nouveau driver
21:19<bremner>doesn't look too good: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/
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21:19<bremner>look at the NV110 column
21:19<orenwf>https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/1663/NVIDIA-Corporation-GM204--GeForce-GTX-970---rev-a1-/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/video-card-works/undef
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21:19<bremner>I don't know h-node, what is it?
21:20<orenwf>just found it web searching
21:20<orenwf>appears to be a directory of hardware that is supported by free drivers
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21:21<orenwf>says it was tested on trisquel
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21:24<bremner>well, the page I pointed to is upstream developer of Xorg.
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21:26<orenwf>yes, thanks for that
21:26<knoppix_hrik>hi
21:26<knoppix_hrik>i'm new
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21:28<farsight>holllow
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21:28<orenwf>actually just translated the comment from h-node.org and it says the card is not supported
21:28<knoppix_hrik>can someone help me out with a software to run on knoppix live usb, to recover data from a formatted hdd
21:29<orenwf>or rather, not working properly
21:29<knoppix_hrik>hello??!! Am i even visible to anyone out there??!!
21:31<knoppix_hrik>i need help to recover a very important document of mine which I lost as the technician formatted the wrong partition while reinstalling windows on a desktop.
21:31<sney>knoppix_hrik: tesdisk
21:31<sney>sorry, testdisk
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21:33<knoppix_hrik>thanks @sney... sney: does it come bundled with knoppix 7.6?
21:33<sney>knoppix_hrik: I have no idea, since this is #debian and knoppix is not supported here... I haven't used knoppix since 2002 probably
21:33<sney>!knoppix
21:33<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
21:35<knoppix_hrik>thanks for your inputs though.. Will lead me somewhere helpful I'm sure..
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21:43<sanctini>Hi, I've been having an issue with hibernate in a Debian-based OS lately. To see if the problem was just with the Debian-based OS and not Debian itself, I switched out the kernels with an amd64 image from the testing repo, my Debian-based OS uses 4.6. Anyway, I tried to hibernate again, but it still didn't work. Suggestions?
21:44<sney>sanctini: go to your debian-based os's support channel
21:44<sney>only debian is supported in #debian
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21:45<sanctini>sney: The hibernate code is kernel-based
21:46<sney>sanctini: doesn't matter. go to the correct channel for your distro
21:46<bremner>the channel is volunteer-based.
21:46<sney>there is nothing you can say that will make you a special exception to this very old rule.
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22:48<Wind>Hi
22:48<Wind>Does anyone has experience in using dataloggers with linux?
22:49<cyberanger>What do you mean dataloggers?
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22:50<Wind>http://www.gainexpress.com/products/m0198132s-digital-3in1-co2-thermo-hygrometer-logger-made-in-taiwan
22:50<Wind>http://www.ecutool.com/DT-8880-Hot-Wire-Anemometer_7284.html
22:50<Wind>http://www.farasia.com.cn/products/prod0155.htm
22:53<Wind>These ones
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22:56<Wind>I need to install it on my box but idk where to begin
22:59<Wind>Nothing?
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23:04<Kyhwana>Wind: find some source/drivers for it?
23:04<Kyhwana>it'll be for whatever type or chip that it uses, google that
23:05<Wind>I guess i already have the drivers
23:06<Wind>But how can i read the data?
23:06<Wind>They only provide windows programs with it
23:06<@themill>Why do you guess you have the drivers?
23:06<@themill>it's actually highly unlikely that you do...
23:07<@themill>There's a portion of these things that just print to a serial port and all you need to do is read from that device; there's lots that do other weird things
23:07<Wind>Read(10): 28 00 00 00 1c 8b 00 00 1c 00
23:07<Wind> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 29228
23:07<Wind> VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0
23:07<Wind> tg3 0000:02:00.0 eth0: Link is down
23:07<Wind> usb 4-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
23:07-!-Wind was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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23:09<Wind>i got kicked
23:09<Arcade>Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.
23:10<Wind>http://paste.debian.net/811158/
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23:11<@themill>Wind: so that device presents two USB devices -- a disk and a serial port
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23:12<Wind>It is the seccond
23:12<@themill>And you're in luck in that both have standard drivers... The live logging will probably now be via /dev/ttyUSB0 (or similar). Try opening that device, you never know
23:13<Wind>How do i do that ?
23:13<Wind>I can google :)
23:13<@themill>putty is probably the simplest approach -- you may well need to fiddle around with baud rates, parity and all the rest of the serial nightmare. And then you're going to have to hope that it just logs ASCII numbers on its own, since you don't have any protocol information.
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23:14<@themill>If that doesn't work straight up, then you're going to be sniffing the serial connection using their software and reverse engineering the protocol. "fun" to be bad
23:14<@themill>had
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23:15<@themill>(you could also do it with screen rather than putty -- whatever you know. If it's working then you can script it or write a python wrapper or ...)
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23:15<Wind>nice
23:15<Wind>can you suggest me some reading?
23:16<@themill>For which bit? there's quite a few steps here
23:17<@themill>(this just happens to be the world that I live in...)
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23:17<Wind>I would love to live in this world too
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23:18<Wind>I guess the hardest part is to do the reverse engineering. And do it fast not loosing my boss time
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23:22<Wind>themill: still there?
23:25<@themill>Not sure where to you point you for more information. Try it and see (with putty or screen) is probably your first stpe
23:25<Wind>ok
23:25<Wind>Thank you very much
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23:27<@themill>If it comes with a manual, it might even specify what the baud/parity/stop/flow control values should be which would help greatly
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23:28*themill would guess 9600 8N1 int he absence of other information.
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23:29<@themill>Wind: there's a ##hardware and ##electronics over on irc.freenode.net that might be able to help more with this device and offer you suitable starting information
23:29<Wind>yeah
23:29<Wind>i am also new to irc
23:30<Wind>i just open hexchat
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23:34<Wind>themill: any way. Thank you so much. You helped me alot. God bless you
23:35<@themill>no worries, good luck with it
23:35<Wind>;)
23:35<Wind>i am leaving now
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