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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-09-06

---Logopened Tue Sep 06 00:00:57 2016
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00:09<woman>uncool
00:10<woman>leas can u clear min I netß
00:10<woman> ? please
00:10<woman>please
00:10<Arcade>?
00:10<woman>debian quest
00:10<woman>how to I get rid of DDos ers?
00:11<woman>they always make min already small pipline
00:11<woman>smaller :-(
00:11<woman>I wann listen music
00:11<woman>Hi Arcade
00:11<woman>u did it again
00:12<woman>no matter
00:13<woman>debian loves me
00:13<woman>and all u warriors
00:13<woman>thtas the fact
00:14<woman>I know Im nobody
00:14<woman>but
00:14<woman>machines like me
00:14<woman>and some people :-9
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00:24<angel>hi
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00:27<@themill>angel: it would be greatly appreciated if you learnt to do something more useful that crapflood.
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00:29<angel>sure
00:29<angel>but mosttimes - no
00:30<angel>why shell I programm some stuffß
00:30<angel> ?
00:30<angel>I losz fun and imagination
00:30<angel>but go ahead
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00:31<angel>and aint nerv me cause Im today kind of?
00:31<angel>unfriendly and pissed off1
00:31<angel>I got no contract have tio be nice ...
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00:33<jspando>why do you guys prefer debian over ubuntu?
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00:34<jelly>it's more predictable
00:35<jmcnaught>i like that Debian is released when it's ready, and the social contract
00:36<Arcade>can someone look in #debian-offtopic looks like angel showed up again there
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00:40<jspando>sorry
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02:14<clank>hi
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03:01<arturo>kernel: [41075702.375990] traps: named[31203] general protection ip:7fbf38613593 sp:7fbf35dfa660 error:0 in libc-2.19.so[7fbf385cd000+1a2000]
03:01<arturo>bind9 crashed
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03:02<petn-randall>,v glibc
03:02<judd>No package named 'glibc' was found in amd64.
03:02<petn-randall>,v libc6
03:02<judd>Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u11; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u3; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u4; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.19-18+deb8u6; stretch: 2.23-5; sid: 2.24-2
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03:03<arturo>does bind9 support systemd watchdog?
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03:34<minister>problem with my dns setup. any help?
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04:23<perrow_>hii.
04:24<danielsh>morning
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04:24<TotallyNotKim>ayy
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05:28<stevenm__>hey I've noticed if I use 'useradd -s /bin/false -g hello hello' as opposed to 'adduser --system --group --shell /bin/false hello'
05:29<stevenm__>that /etc/shadow shows the password as ! if using useradd but * if using adduser
05:29<stevenm__>if this user is meant to be for system processes only (e.g. like www-data and mysql are) then is ! or * better and why?
05:30<nikos>stevenm__: they are both the same thing, look into shadow(5) manpage for details
05:31<stevenm__>i already am - i don't think they quite mean the same thing
05:31<stevenm__>there is an extra sentence explaining !
05:32<stevenm__>hmm ok so if you're *not* storing a locked password - then ultimately * and ! both mean account is locked
05:33<stevenm__>so I'm guessing the reason why www-data and mysql (by default as made by debian and mysql-server) are different... is one script used adduser and another used useradd I'd bet?!
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05:54<TotallyNotKim>ayy I have a MDADM raid1 on block device level, which contain two partitions, p1 boot and p2 lvm. I have a fstab entry for /boot pointing to the label 'Boot'. However since the disks are duplicated, the system finds this label like 3 times, on the two mirrored devices and one extra on the mdadm device and tries to mount /boot from the disk directly, resulting in a rescue shell 'case the device is blocked by mdadm
05:54<TotallyNotKim>any way to resolve this other than changing to uuid?
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05:54<TotallyNotKim>basically a way to force the label be linked to the mdadm device
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05:59<petn-randall>TotallyNotKim: The 2nd U in UUID is "unique". If your UUIDs on a system aren't unique, you'll have all kind of problems.
05:59<TotallyNotKim>I know that :)
06:00<TotallyNotKim>The problem are not duplicate UUID's but duplicate partition labels
06:00<grawity>which mdadm metadata version are you using?
06:01<grawity>on my system, the two mirrored devices are only detected as mdadm linux_raid_members – *not* as duplicate copies of the filesystem
06:02<grawity>that said, if the RAID is statically configured in /etc/mdadm.conf, then you'd be fine using /dev/md0 and not LABEL=
06:02<petn-randall>(or using the UUID)
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06:02<grawity>petn-randall: if it detects the FS three times, UUID would have the exact same problem
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06:16<krymzon>hi, what is the currently recommended way on setting up IPsec VPN on Debian? The wiki page talks mostly about Woody and Sarge. Should I focus on ipsec-tools? strongswan? libreswan?
06:17<petn-randall>grawity: the UUID is a property of the partition, not the filesystem.
06:18<grawity>petn-randall: except it *is* a property of the filesystem
06:18<grawity>the PARTUUID and PARTLABEL are a property of the partition, though
06:18<grawity>(if you use GPT or such)
06:19<grawity>if the 'regular' UUID wasn't a filesystem thing, there wouldn't be /usr/bin/{e2label,ntfslabel,fatlabel,swaplabel} and so on
06:19<grawity>krymzon: either strongswan or libreswan
06:19<grawity>krymzon: I use the former but afaik both are good and maintained
06:20<krymzon>grawity: thank you. Only strongswan is included on the repo, but libreswan seems to publish their own jessie packages. Is it just a lack of maintainer, or Debian's preference indication?
06:20*grawity shrugs
06:20<grawity>more likely the former, I'd guess?
06:20<krymzon>sure, thank you
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06:21<grawity>I don't know much about Debian politics in that regard, but I guess nobody just got around to it
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06:22<petn-randall>grawity: I wasn't aware that filesystem labels are also used for UUIDs. Does mount even use those when you put UUIDs in /etc/fstab? I haven't used MSDOS partition tables in a while.
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06:23<grawity>petn-randall: ah, I picked a bad example
06:23<grawity>petn-randall: but, that doesn't affect the rest
06:23<grawity>petn-randall: msdos/mbr partition tables *don't have* any space for UUIDs
06:23<grawity>at best, some systems borrow 32 bits of bootcode for a "disk ID"
06:24<grawity>so UUIDs are still a filesystem thing; ext4 allows its to be set during mkfs.ext4 and changed in tune2fs, etc.
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06:26<TotallyNotKim>petn-randall: I have labels in fstab instead of uuids. I will change to uuids than
06:26<grawity>krymzon: meanwhile, openswan is (AFAIK) as dead as openoffice, and raccoon from ipsec-tools mostly works but – afaik – is architecturally limited to IKEv1, and nobody really updates it anymore for more modern ciphers and stuff
06:26<TotallyNotKim>I just prefer labels over uuids for readability
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06:27<grawity>petn-randall: the easiest way to prove this, I suppose, would be 1) to run mkfs on a raw device (loop0 or whatever) and notice that it still has an UUID; 2) to inspect a partition on a GPT disk and notice that it has both an UUID *and* a PARTUUID.
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06:47<grexminus>hello?>
06:47<TotallyNotKim>ayy
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07:19<krymzon>grawity: thanks
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08:05<Wind>HEY
08:05<Wind>how can i sniff a usb port?
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08:07<petn-randall>Wind: Put your nose close to it.
08:07<petn-randall>Wind: Just kidding, you can do that e.g. with wireshark.
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08:07<Wind>i laugh
08:08<Wind>oh ok
08:08<Wind>trying to figure out how to read imput from a datalogger
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08:13<Wind>wireshark is doing nothing
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08:21<petn-randall>https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB
08:24<petn-randall>Wind: ^^^
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08:24<Wind>Thank you
08:25<Wind>i confess i was avoiding to read it
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08:26<petn-randall>Wind: There's no better deed than reading a good piece of documentation.
08:26<Wind>yeah
08:27<Wind>byut when you are wishing to do it fast...
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08:29<tech-noid>the better deed might be writing the documentation?
08:36<Wind>Still nothing
08:36<Wind>Just static information
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08:43<Wind>jpnevulator did the trick
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08:44<Wind>now it is know how to interpret the information
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10:33<grawity>and for decoding them, zbarimg
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11:53<taquilla>hola
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11:54<smdrz>man is confusing
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11:59<taquilla>pass
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12:56<jla>Hi, I've got a reprepro repository and my signing key expired so I extended it. Is there a way to get reprepro to regenerate and re-sign the Release.gpg files?
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13:03<rudi_s>jla: reprepro export should do that.
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13:06<jla>rudi_s: Thanks. I tried that but still had trouble so I started trying the *checksum* options. I'll work on the client end to make sure everything is right there.
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13:07<jla>rudi_s: I should have trusted it, it does prompt for the passphrase
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13:10<petn-randall>jla: You have to re-import the signing key on the client, too. Did you do that yet?
13:11<petn-randall>jla: You shouldn't need to resign the repo, as the key stays the same. You need to re-import the pubkey on the client, though.
13:11<jla>petn-randall: yes, and it looks like the right one in the apt-key list output
13:11<petn-randall>jla: Does it show the new expiry date?
13:11<jla>yes
13:12<petn-randall>jla: Then 'apt-get update' should be enough to make apt stop complaining.
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13:13<petn-randall>jla: Did that fix it for you?
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13:15<jla>Sorry, no, that's where the trouble is. I'm about to manually verify the files
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13:30<jla>petn-randall, rudi_s: I had updated just the master key and not the subkeys in my first pass. That 'bad' key had made it everywhere. Server, clients. Hard to see the subkey expiration date. All fixed now, thank you!
13:30<petn-randall>jla: Ah, wondeful. Glad you got it fixed.
13:31<jla>Thank you both for the pointers. I was starting to doubt what I'd done :)
13:33<rudi_s>np
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14:46<umlaeute>what's the proper audio-mixer-applet on xfce4?
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14:47<Durkhein>hello
14:47<Durkhein>speak portuguese?
14:47<bremner>!pt
14:47<dpkg>Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt )
14:48<Durkhein>#debian-pt
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14:51<jhutchins>umlaeute: aptitude search mix | grep xfce yeilds xfce4-mixer
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15:15<petn-randall>umlaeute: Next to xfce4-mixer, there's also the xfce-pulseaudio-plugin that works well.
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---Logopened Tue Sep 06 16:05:09 2016
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16:11<aviau>is the BTS sleeping today?
16:11<aviau>Or is it not getting my mails?
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16:21<jhutchins>aviau: Could be it's swamped from the long weekend (US).
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16:22<aviau>jhutchins: Slow is one thing, but that would be very slow. I have been waiting hours
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16:23<GLolol>perhaps try resending the mail?
16:23<jhutchins>aviau: Hours is not slow. Days is slow.
16:23<aviau>haha, I never waited a full day for a BTS answer
16:23<aviau>Days is unusable
16:24<GLolol>snail mail BTS everyone
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16:24<jhutchins>TCP/IP over carrier pigeon.
16:25<jhutchins>aviau: Really? My average time-to-close from RedHat is two years, a few days doesn't matter much.
16:25<aviau>jhutchins: What? Are you talking about human actions?
16:26<aviau>I am sending commands to the BTS and its not applying them.
16:26<jhutchins>aviau: Ok.
16:26<aviau>It would be insane if it took a few days to close a bug
16:27<jhutchins>aviau: It usually takes longer than that.
16:27<aviau>jhutchins: I don't think you understand what I am saying.
16:27<aviau>When I close a bug, I send a mail to XXX-done and its closed within 10 minutes.
16:31<jla>aviau: Maybe it's just you, Bug 829136 had an update today.
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16:32<jla>I don't normally look for archives on debian-bugs-dist so I'm not sure if it's normal to not have a debian.org archive for them, but I found that one here: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/
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16:43<fantom>heloo
16:43<fantom>please i need help
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16:44<fantom>E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
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16:46<petn-randall>fantom: So did you do that?
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16:49<fantom>i am trying to make updeat
16:49<fantom>this last messag i get
16:49-!-ol [~quassel@2406:e006:db1:1:8e89:a5ff:feca:57fe] has joined #debian
16:49<fantom>!!!
16:49<dpkg>I'm not your csh prompt!
16:50<fantom>so what i neec to do ?
16:50<fantom>need
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16:51<petn-randall>fantom: Did you run 'dpkg --configure -a' as the message says?
16:52<fantom>how to run ? please help me
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16:52<petn-randall>fantom: Type that into the root terminal.
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16:53<fantom>can you text me the comm ?
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16:54<petn-randall>fantom: I already did, it's still 'dpkg --configure -a'.
16:54<petn-randall>(no quotes)
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16:57<fantom>its setting up . now
16:57<fantom>)
16:57<petn-randall>fantom: That might also throw an error. In that case, show us the full output of 'dpkg --configure -a' by pasting it to http://paste.debian.net.
16:57<fantom>ok
16:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 679] by debhelper
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17:00<fantom>what should i do after ? already i pasted ??
17:01<petn-randall>fantom: What is the link?
17:01<fantom>Configuration file '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/kxstudio-non-free.list'
17:01<fantom> ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
17:01<fantom> ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
17:01<fantom> What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
17:01<fantom> Y or I : install the package maintainer's version
17:01-!-fantom was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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17:01<petn-randall>I hope this is because english is not their primary language ...
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17:04<fantom>http://paste.debian.net/811457
17:05<fantom>what i need to do after please /
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17:06<petn-randall>fantom: You're not running Debian stable. Are you running a different distro?
17:06<fantom>AV LINUX DEBIAN
17:06<fantom>!!!
17:06<dpkg>I'm not your csh prompt!
17:07<retrospectacus>!avlinux
17:07<dpkg>AV Linux (formerly A/V Linux) is a 32-bit Live DVD distribution based on Debian <squeeze> (as of version 6). It specializes in multimedia content creation using realtime-patched kernels. AV Linux is not supported in #debian. Support forum: http://remastersys.com/forums/?board=20 . http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html See also <based on debian>.
17:07<jhutchins> Linux 4.1.5-rt5-avl2
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17:08<jhutchins>fantom: On the other hand, it's asking you if you want to update a source file. You should be able to decide.
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17:09<petn-randall>fantom: You need to ask in the support channels of your distro, whatever they may be. Your installation is not supported here.
17:09<fantom>okay and thank for helping , i wanna ues it for creating song
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17:10<retrospectacus>I think the message you have encountered is pretty clear. Just type your desired answer
17:10<fantom>how i will know the name of my supprting chn?
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17:10<retrospectacus>google it
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17:12<fantom>thanks for help )
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18:45<mahollowspe>hello
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19:03<jetlifemb>hello all testing my irssi..
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19:19<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I'm running the command 'sudo badblocks -sv -c 1024 /dev/sda' to check for any damage in my hard drive, but I'm using vlc, hexchat and browser firefox opened at the same time of this checking. Please shoud I use this badblock command without any application running ?
19:19<jetlifemb>thanks
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19:21<jetlifemb>@R4f_Debian I would not. I dont like to check drives for damage on a live system. Use a boot disk
19:22<R4F_Debian>Hi jetlifemb, is that dangerous ? Can I damage by any way my hard drive ?
19:22<jetlifemb>no but variables
19:22<jetlifemb>I hate variables they erk me
19:22<R4F_Debian>I see
19:23<R4F_Debian>what application do you suggest for me to use it as boot disk ?
19:23<jetlifemb>really dont want read and writes while checking
19:23<R4F_Debian>for Debian Jessie 8.5 = amd64
19:23<R4F_Debian>I see
19:24<R4F_Debian>ok jetlifemb, thanks for information ! :)
19:24<jetlifemb>hiren boot cd for everything all day
19:24<jetlifemb>imo
19:24<jetlifemb>;)
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20:13<R4F_Debian>Bye jetlifemb, I've found several badblocks here
20:13<R4F_Debian>see you
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20:52<R4F_Debian>Please, anyone help me on this; what to do in such situation ? I ran the 'badblocks' command in Debian and got this result: http://paste.debian.net/811523/
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20:53<sney>get a new hard drive
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20:56<R4F_Debian>sney, is that very dangerous using this one ?
20:56<R4F_Debian>I use 'btrfs' on this Debian Installation
20:57<sney>if your disk has so many bad blocks that badblocks gives up on scanning it, your disk is broken
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20:57<sney>oh wait I see you interrupted the scan
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20:58<R4F_Debian>yes, probably there is more badblocks on it
20:58<sney>anyway yes those are all read errors so your disk is dead
20:59<R4F_Debian>I see sney, so the next strategy here is recovering its data as fast as possible
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21:05<R4F_Debian>thanks for information sney
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23:07<sleser>hi can some one help me with a usb micro sd card reader
23:09<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/811551/
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23:15<danielsh>looks like you need to install a package providing mount.exfat: http://sprunge.us/LMZJ
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23:19<sleser>i need to install exfat fuse ?
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23:21<GLolol>yeah, the package is exfat-fuse
23:22<sleser>ty it works now
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