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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-09-10

---Logopened Sat Sep 10 00:00:06 2016
---Daychanged Sat Sep 10 2016
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00:26<pi__>test xchat
00:27<pi__>hello world
00:28<pi__>ping
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00:59<mbskevor>error: not a statement
00:59<mbskevor> for (localObject2) : (String[])Arrays.copyOfRange(arrayOfString2, 4, arrayOfString2.length))
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01:38<melvin_>someone has configure mythtv?
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02:06<mh182>I would like to run CentOS on a Debian (unstable) as a VM. can anyone point me in the right direction what "the easierst" way would be to do that?
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02:48<lindylex>How can i disable a cron job from clogging up /var/log/syslog ?
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03:22<ivan>Hello guys, I have a problem with firefox on debian stretch. The firefox-esr in the stretch repos has no problems, however when I try to use the one I got from the official website (wheter it be stable, beta or nightly) I cannot write in Japanese in firefox. I use ibus anthy.
03:26<mbskevor>ivan: stretch... ?
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03:26<mbskevor>that's not even supported
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03:27<aliasd>ivan, it seems like the package maintainer does some work to make this work correctly in debian..... you could look at the install scripts in the .deb for hints
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03:28<ivan>Thanks, I'll have a look
03:29<aliasd>also ivan
03:29<aliasd>pay attention to mbskevor
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03:31<aliasd>you're likely to run into all kinds of inconsistencies and bugs
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03:32<aliasd>if you need more current packages that are supported, you might want to try a different distro
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03:33<ivan>I've grown accustomed to debian
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03:34<mbskevor>ivan: might i suggest jessie?
03:34<ivan>Im already on stretch(testing)
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03:34<mbskevor>correction i was thinking of squeeze
03:34<aliasd>heheh
03:35<aliasd>did woody last forever or what?
03:35<aliasd>it seems it did
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05:09<infinity_kos>hi
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05:46<aa>hello i need help
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05:57<Guest276>hi
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06:08<Echoz_asleep>aa: what do you need help with?
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10:10<hektabyte>Hey guys...
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10:10<hektabyte>Is it normal that your machine shuts down on kernel update?
10:10<babilen_>Automatically?
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10:11<hektabyte>Yes, update wasn't finsihed. I had to run dpkg --configure -a twice.
10:12<babilen>No, that's not normal
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10:14<hektabyte>Ok, hopefully no damage was done. Kernel version is 3.16.0-4-amd64.
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11:14<rd>hi
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11:28<sabin512>I'm following the instructions about creating a debian installation USB. They work great, however I'd like to understand how the following works, if anybody has time to explain
11:28<sabin512>cp debian.iso /dev/sdX; sync
11:29<petn-randall>sabin512: tell us which part don't you understand, and we'll fill you in.
11:29<sabin512>why doesn't cp just try to clobber the device file with the .iso... this seems like a special cp behavior but i couldn't find anything about it in the man page
11:29<grawity>that's regular cp behavior
11:30<grawity>by default it doesn't delete the target file, it just opens it and lets the OS truncate it
11:30<grawity>and then it copies raw data
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11:30<grawity>since the .iso is a hybrid image which also has a MBR for booting from disk as well, that means the raw data will be recognized as a bootable USB
11:31<sabin512>does it do this only because of the special target? i mean obviously if i would have pointed to a mount point, my ISO file would be copied onto it
11:31<grawity>no, it works the same no matter the target
11:31<grawity>it just treats /dev/sdX as a file to write the data to
11:32<petn-randall>sabin512: If you would have named a file instead of /dev/sdx, it would copy the contents there, too, truncating the file before writing.
11:32<sabin512>riiight
11:32<sabin512>this is very neat
11:33<grawity>you might have seen instructions elsewhere using `dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/bar`
11:33<grawity>they do the same exact thing
11:33<grawity>(so does `cat foo.iso > /dev/sdX` or `pv foo.iso > /dev/sdX` if you like a fancy progressbar)
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11:36<sabin512>yeah this makes sense now... it just hadn't clicked for me that when the iso is in a regular file nobody looks for a filesystem on it, but when it's contents are written to a /dev the os looks for filesystems on /dev files
11:37<sabin512>thanks a lot for explanations
11:37<babilen>sabin512: You copy the file to the device. You don't copy it to a filesystem *on* a partition on the device. Everything is a file.
11:38<sabin512>yeah, that "everything is a file" thing takes some getting used to after years of windows
11:38<babilen>You can get an image of a harddrive in the same manner with "cp /dev/sda hdd_image.iso"
11:39<sabin512>could you potentially write this straight from the web with something like
11:40<sabin512>wget <debian iso download url> -O /dev/sdX
11:40<babilen>dd doesn't have any superpowers .. you really only ever need them if you, for example, want to copy parts of a "file" (such as the first 512 byte block or somesuch)
11:40<grawity>in theory, yes
11:40<grawity>although that's a bit dangerous since you're skipping hash/sig verifications
11:40<petn-randall>sabin512: Yeah, but you don't want to run wget as root, and usually you want to verify the download, too. But in theory, yes.
11:40<sabin512>very cool
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11:43<MeZenified>how can I make apt-get use a SOCKS5 proxy
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11:56<Sam_Wake>Hello?
11:57<bremner>!ask
11:57<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:30<tirwacaf>Hi anybody
13:30<bremner>!ask
13:30<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:31<tirwacaf>Do you know where can i find some help for this bug during install debian : "partman-lvm : no volume groups found" ... thanks
13:32<ThomasKeller>what is the purpose of /usr/share/bug/ ?
13:33<ThomasKeller>seems that some packages are storing some scripts there
13:34<ThomasKeller>i.e.: /usr/share/bug/iceweasel/script
13:34<ThomasKeller>what are these scripts for, and who is running them ?
13:34<bremner>ThomasKeller: reportbug runs them
13:35<bremner>tirwacaf: was there already an LVM install on that disk?
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13:37<tirwacaf>yes, but I have deleted an old linux install
13:37<tirwacaf>i don't remember if there was LVM
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13:41<tirwacaf>bremner: I have two physicals disk, and the purpose is to have a dual boot
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13:50<bremner>tirwacaf: I don't know of a nice easy way to fix that. Certainly zeroing the whole disk would work (but be very slow). if you enable lvm in rescue mode, you could use the pvremove command
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13:55<tirwacaf>bremner: haaaaaaa ;-) I Will try ... but as well with live iso (mint, fedora ...) no way to install
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13:56<tirwacaf>bremner: I will try it in rescue mode ...
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13:58<roma>hello
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13:59<carandraug>hello! I'm using debian stable and the upgrade from iceweasel to firefox-esr recently broke one of the plugins (also installed from debian packages). Does the fix for this stuff gets applied to stable?
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14:00<MeZenified>!ask | roma
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14:03<carandraug>maybe #debian-mozext is a better place to ask that
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14:08<tirwacaf>bye
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14:10<roma>is somebody from Russia?
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14:13<Guest207>no
14:13<Guest207>roma: #debian-ru ?
14:13<Guest207>it's on freenode
14:15<roma>thank
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15:37<Belathkin|>I can't seem to get this DRAC 5 card working
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15:43<Belathkin|>Everything is set up on the server but when I try to ping the DRAC card it times out
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18:14<ghhhgbii>I have a problem with caja
18:14<ghhhgbii>when I click on a folder the folder doesn't open...any help?
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19:23<stark>Hi
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19:29<pi__>Hello?
19:29<pi__>Nevermind, I'll be leaving now. Cool IRC btw
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19:37<error404>ciao
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20:11<root_152>wtf
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20:14<Guest42>irc.geo.oftc.net
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20:22<subramanian>hello
20:22<subramanian>first time i am using a linux os
20:23<colour>hello
20:23<colour>i am usingdebu
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20:23<colour>oops. iam using iton a note 7
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20:27<colour>note 7 screen is beautiful for this.
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21:16<pron>whats the minimum amount of ram needed for debian?
21:16<pron>will it run fine with 64m?
21:16<pron>i mean base sys
21:19<themill>highly unlikely https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en
21:20<themill>of course as usual this depends on what you want to do with it, what performance you want, and how patient you are
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21:25<sim590>I'm trying to install some packages (jessie) and I get this: http://ix.io/1lMk. I'm not used to debian enough yet. How can I resolve this?
21:27<blast007>are you mixing stable and testing/unstable?
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21:28<somiaj>could also just be you have some jessie-backport packages installed messing with your depends. If you ahve the libary from jessie-backports you'll also want the -dev from there
21:29<themill>the strict version dependencies there indicate stretch/sid mixed with jessie
21:29<blast007>yeah, there isn't a backport for libflac8. that second version listed is only in testing/unstable.
21:36<sim590>blast007: I'm not sure. Here's my sources.lst http://paste.debian.net/816301/
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21:37<blast007>then where are you getting testing/unstable packages from?
21:37<themill>!bat
21:37<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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21:40<sim590>the command: http://paste.debian.net/816302/
21:41<sim590>policy: http://paste.debian.net/816303/
21:42<sim590>policy (3): http://paste.debian.net/816304/
21:43<themill>sim590: the output of "apt-cache policy libflac8 libsqlite3-0 libvorbis0a" would be good too if you could
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21:45<sim590>themill: http://paste.debian.net/816306/
21:45<themill>sim590: it looks a lot like you added stretch or sid sources, installed those packages and then removed those sources from your sources.list
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21:46<sim590>It's been more than a year that I've used this computer. I've just turned it on a week ago and I did update to from sid (I think) to jessie.
21:46<themill>you could try using aptitude rather than apt-get to install the packages you want; hitting "n" to see the next solution might get to one where it wants to downgrade the packages for you.
21:46<themill>ugh
21:47<themill>!not available
21:47<dpkg>To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'
21:47<sim590>I mean wheezy to jessie.
21:47<themill>sim590: ^^ the entire output of that would be informative
21:47<glorias>sicher
21:48<glorias>I cant send to channel cause
21:48<glorias>Im handicapped
21:48<glorias>No worry
21:48<glorias>No Cyborg dies for ever ;-)
21:48<glorias>thank Crisp?
21:48<themill>glorias: do we have to keep playing this game? Can't you just get the hint and fuck off?
21:49<glorias>donkey we play this game
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21:49<sim590>themill: The output from aptitude search ... : http://paste.debian.net/816307/
21:49<themill>ick
21:51<themill>sim590: does "apt-get dist-upgrade" want to do anything? What does "aptitude search ~o" output?
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21:52<sim590>themill: yep. dist-upgrade tries to install some python packages. Some other packages are kept back.
21:52<sim590>0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded.
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21:54<themill>yeah, so you have a combination of some wheezy packages that you should remove (that's the obsolete packages from ~o) some jessie packages that have pending upgrades and some stretch or sid packages that prevent you from installing or upgrading packages you want
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21:56<sim590>hmmmmmmm
21:57<sim590>so I should remove all packages listed in aptitude search ~o ?
21:58<themill>as long as they are things you're not particularly attached to... packages from outside of debian like your openoffice packages will be in that list too
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22:01<sim590>I can see I have gcc-4.4 listed there, but I also have gcc-4.7, 4.8 and 4.9 installed on my system. Can I assume that all packages have an equivalent from jessie already installed and that I won't lose packages really ?
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22:04<sim590>does ~o stand for "old" and uneeded?
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22:07<themill>"obsolete" -- it really just means packages for which there is no current source in the sources.list (and which are not upgradable to a newer version using your current sources.list)
22:09<themill>I would normally have nothing in that category on a machine except perhaps for packages I've built myself
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22:10<sim590>when trying to remove all of them I get that ca-certificates depends on openssl (>=1.0.0) but it is not going to be installed. How can I go around this? Do I have to force to install the packages from jessie before removing the obseletes.
22:11<sim590>http://paste.debian.net/816309/
22:11<themill>this sort of tidy up should need no force; check the output of "apt-cache policy ca-certificates openssl" if you're not sure what is installed
22:12<themill>You probably have packages that need to be upgraded before the old versions are uninstalled and things stop depending on the obsolete versions
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22:18<isar12>hallo
22:18<sim590>themill: when I'm trying to upgrade, I have 14 kept back and nothing else to be done. still have trouble removing ~o packages.
22:18<themill>sim590: the 14 are going to be in part because of your packages from sid. It's time to try downgrading them
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22:20<isar12>does anyone know where I can view the list of verification hashes for the debian 8.5 PC internet installer , downloaded from the https://www.debian.org/ top right corner , I am able to check it's hashes but can't find a list to compare them with
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22:21<sim590>themill: actually, from the output of aptitude search ~o, I did try to remove packages with "i A" at begining of line. Now, I'm trying to remove the lines where "A" is not on the line and it works.
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22:21<sim590>I'm autoremoving those packages to clean even more.
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22:23<blast007>isar12: is this helpful? https://www.debian.org/CD/verify there's also hashes next to the ISOs in the web directories
22:23<sim590>oh. I see why. "A" means it was automatically installed (as a dependency, then), so I have to remove the others before.
22:23<sleser>http://paste.debian.net/816312/
22:24<sleser>can some one tell me if the big sd card is broken or what exaclty going on
22:24<sleser>or if i can reformat it
22:24<sleser>or fix it
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22:28<sim590>themill: so I'm uninstalling all ~o packages. Now packages form stretch/sid should be downgraded or removed?
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22:32<isar12>for instance , for this iso image http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ there is a list of hashes to compare the output hashes of the iso but I'm having troubles finding such a list of hashes for the PC network installer downloaded from https://www.debian.org/ top right corner
22:33<isar12>does any1 know where can I find those hashes ? they are different from the ones of dvd/cd iso versions
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22:46<themill>sim590: downgrading might be enough but there is a chance you need to remove some of them
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22:47<themill>isar12: it's in the same directory
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22:49<isar12>themill: there is no directory for the network installer , when you click the green download button it just downloads the iso , does not open any directory containing hashes
22:50<themill>isar12: the iso is in a directory
22:59<isar12>themill: can't see anything else than the .iso in the download directory
23:01<themill>isar12: the MD5SUMS, SHA{1,256,512}SUMS and the signatures for them are all thre
23:05<isar12>themill: I can use sums tools on the .iso and I get the output hashes , but I got no hashes to compare them to , that's what I am trying to do , after downloading the network installer from https://www.debian.org/ top right corner green button , there is only one file in the downloads directory , the .iso
23:06<themill>The hashsums to compare with along with gpg signatures are in the same directory as the ISO
23:06<themill>There are 9 files in that directory.
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23:15<themill>isar12: where are you looking for the hashsums?
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23:36<Hoso001>hi. I am having some trouble. I don't know if its my ethernet driver or apt-get. When i am installing packages with apt-get my download speeds gradually slows down till it completly stalls.
23:36<Hoso001>Webpages seems to loading at good speed, and speedtest says I have my full bandwidth
23:37<Hoso001>Is there a way to tell which it is?
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23:48<themill>Hoso001: which mirror are you using? (perhaps try a different one)
23:48<isar12>themill: in the directory that I've downloaded the iso , but there's only one file , the .iso , keep in mind that I used the green button from https://www.debian.org/ top right corner
23:49<Hoso001>us.debian mirror
23:49<themill>isar12: that's pretty vague... I'm looking at the directory right now and the hash files are there so I'm asking you where you are looking
23:49<themill>Hoso001: there are several mirrors in the US round-robin. Picking one that works well for you is probably better (or use deb.debian.org)
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23:53<isar12>themill: what directory are you looking at ?
23:54<themill>the directory where the iso lives...
23:54<themill>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/
23:55<isar12>ye man
23:55<isar12>that's what I was trying to tell you
23:55<isar12>those hashes are different from the network installer
23:55<isar12>those are cd iso
23:55<isar12>not network installer
23:55<isar12>downloaded from the https://www.debian.org/ top right corner
23:55<isar12>green button
23:55<themill>what is the filename of the image you downloaded?
23:55<isar12>sec
23:56<isar12>debian-8.5.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso
23:56<themill>no, those are the exact hashes that match that image.
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23:58<isar12>yes
23:58<isar12>you'r right
23:58<isar12>I must have compared them maybe to the dvd version or something
23:58<isar12>thank ypu
23:59<themill>np
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