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03:50<djszapi>hello, screen is terminating right after issuing the screen command... I am trying to use screen as a regular user. My friend has tried setgid as well as reinstalling the official package on Wheezy, 7.11. It used to work for years and it suddenly broke. I am not sure what my friend or his provider did to the server, but I would like to fix it. Any idea what to do next?
03:51<djszapi>ls -ld `which screen` -> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root utmp 421640 Sep 3 2015 /usr/bin/screen
03:51<djszapi>ls -ld /var/run/screen -> drwxrwxr-x 4 root utmp 80 Sep 9 11:25 /var/run/screen/
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03:55<jm_>both are OK
03:57<djszapi>so why I am getting [screen is terminating] when issuing the screen command as a regular user?
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03:58<jm_>what does screen -q ; echo $? show
03:58<jm_>or maybe -q -ls
03:58<djszapi>9
03:58<djszapi>(-q -ls)
03:59<jm_>does it help if you set SCREENDIR variable?
03:59<djszapi>to?
04:00<djszapi>screen -q ; echo $? -> [screen is terminating] 0
04:00<djszapi>screen -q -ls; echo $? -> 9
04:00<jm_>to /tmp or $HOME or ...
04:00<jm_>just for test
04:01<djszapi>SCREENDIR=$HOME screen
04:01<djszapi>Directory /home/lpapp must have mode 700.
04:01<jm_>ok so maybe create a temp dir like that and use that
04:01<djszapi>SCREENDIR=$HOME/screen screen
04:01<djszapi>[screen is terminating]
04:01<djszapi>yeah, I have just done that, same result.
04:02<themill>is this a screenrc or bashrc problem? (is there a --norc or similar?)
04:02<jm_>did you also try with renaming .screenrc?
04:02<djszapi>cannot see a verbose option
04:02<djszapi>.screenrc where?
04:02<djszapi>probably not as I am not the server admin
04:02<djszapi>and I do not recall anything like that in my home
04:03<djszapi>ls -la $HOME does not print any file like that
04:03<jm_>mv ~/.screenrc ~/.screenrc.orig
04:03<djszapi>themill: no idea, how to figure out
04:03<djszapi>as I wrote, mv: cannot stat `/home/lpapp/.screenrc': No such file or directory
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04:04<sagarpatke>Hi! I'm looking for tools which can control any apt installations on my debian server. Something which would remove unnecessary packages, unless it is present in the white-list. I'd be automating the scan through ansible scripts. Can you help me with any tools which can accomplish this task?
04:04<djszapi>it is a shame that there is no verbose option or error log in /var/log/
04:05<djszapi>so I do not know how to pin this down this way...
04:05<djszapi>logging is the king
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04:05<jm_>yeah it would need something like that to be able to tell where it goes wrong, also don't see an option to not load /etc/screenrc
04:05<djszapi>:/
04:05<djszapi>do you know what to try next?
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04:06<jm_>well not if you don't have root access
04:06<djszapi>shame, I thought one can work around global issues in their home directory on a server
04:06<djszapi>to run a program like this.
04:06<Nemoder_>$SYSSCREENRC should overide it?
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04:08<jm_>yeah looks like it might
04:08<LeLutin>is it still possible to send new packages to wheezy-backports? (I would expect it to close at some point, but don't know when that'd happen)
04:08<djszapi>so what?
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04:10<djszapi>this is the content of /etc/screenrc, fwiw: https://paste.kde.org/p5pziva2c/pvj9tk/raw
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04:11<djszapi>same result for
04:11<djszapi>lpapp@vps32496:~/bin$ SCREENDIR=$HOME/screen SYSSCREENRC="" screen
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04:12<djszapi>same with cp /etc/screenrc $HOME;SCREENDIR=$HOME/screen SYSSCREENRC=$HOME/.screenrc screen
04:12<djszapi>I have no clue...
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04:14<Nemoder_>some shell problem? what if you just run: screen bash
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04:14<djszapi>same
04:14<djszapi>[screen is terminating]
04:14<djszapi>just bash works fine
04:14<djszapi>without the screen command first
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04:15<Nemoder_>maybe run strace on it and see if anything obvious shows up
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04:16<djszapi>strace screen: http://codepad.org/fZE3AFKg
04:16<djszapi>yes, exactly, that is what I have just done and then saw your message :)
04:17<djszapi>I hate strace though as it is overly spammy
04:17<djszapi>but the many -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor) lines do not look good to me
04:18<jm_>screen has suid bit set so it won't work very well with strace
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04:18<djszapi>right.
04:19<djszapi>but it does not have setuid bit set
04:19<djszapi>only 2755 (setgid)
04:19<djszapi>if that is what you meant.
04:20<jm_>it's the same thing
04:20<themill>Do you own the tty?
04:21<djszapi>what do you mean by owning?
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04:22<themill>ls -l `tty`
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04:23<djszapi>with -ff http://codepad.org/oNocJlnR
04:23<djszapi>ls -l `tty` -> crw--w---- 1 lpapp tty 136, 5 Sep 13 11:23 /dev/pts/5
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04:25<themill>«env -i TERM=$TERM screen bash --norc --noprofile» would also be a good thing to try
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04:28<djszapi>is there a good cli paste program?
04:28<djszapi>curlpaste clearly sucks big times, so does wgetpaste
04:28<djszapi>curlpaste does not paste beyond a certain number of lines
04:28<themill>add SCREENRC=/dev/null for bonus hilarity
04:28<djszapi>so the log is actually truncated online.
04:28<djszapi>env -i SCREENRC=/dev/null TERM=$TERM screen bash --norc --noprofile -> [screen is terminating]
04:29<themill>fun
04:29<jm_>ask dpkg about pastebinit nopaste
04:29<djszapi>http://sprunge.us/GcUZ
04:30<djszapi>themill: fun as in ... ?
04:30<djszapi>big fun ?
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04:30<jm_>note this:
04:30<jm_>write(1, "Directory '/var/run/screen' must"..., 49Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777.
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04:31<djszapi>well, initially screen -D -RR gave this: Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 775.
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04:31<djszapi>but then again, I thought we tried to override to no avail anyway?
04:31<djszapi>that*
04:31<djszapi>SCREENDIR, yeah, same issue?
04:31<themill>/var/run/screen/ is 0775 here
04:32<djszapi>same issue: SCREENDIR=/home/lpapp/screen screen
04:32<djszapi>drwxrwxr-x 4 root utmp 80 Sep 9 11:25 /var/run/screen/
04:32<jm_>yeah that should override it
04:32<djszapi>jm_: your initial reply was both are ok
04:33<djszapi>regarding the permissions?
04:33<jm_>djszapi: yes, OK as in what I also have and themill also confirmed it
04:33<djszapi>sure
04:33<djszapi>so what to try next?
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04:34<techie28>hi.. how to login to debian using juice ssh
04:35<techie28>I managed to do that once before but now I couldnt configure it on my new android phone.
04:35<techie28>Im trying to connect to root@debian:22 via juice ssh client on an android phone
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04:38<Echoz>techie28: what's the error?
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04:42<techie28>It just freezes on connecting to root@localhost..does not go forward
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04:43<techie28>my ifconfig does not show any inet addr
04:44<techie28>could that be the reason?
04:44<techie28>I tried root@debian & root@localhost also
04:44<techie28>I m on a LAN
04:44<techie28>both phones & debian laptop are
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04:49<Echoz>techie28: you'll need an IP address in the same network to connect to
04:50<Echoz>techie28: localhost is loopback and debian probably wouldn't be resolved unless you set up dns for that
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04:54<lpapp>re, I have not seen anything after my last message jmlongo
04:54<lpapp>jm_ (sorry jmlongo)
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04:59<techie28>Echoz: I will have to set my inet addr.
05:03<duclicsic>if your phone is on the LAN it should definitely already have an address
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05:04<duclicsic>unless you've manually deleted it or something is very broken
05:04<techie28>yes both of them are on same lan.. ifconfig -a shows my inet adddr to be 127.0.0.1
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05:04<techie28>I tried that also
05:04<duclicsic>wrong interface
05:04<duclicsic>that's on your loopback interface
05:04<techie28>so I will need to reconfigure it?
05:04<duclicsic>if you try to connect to 127.0.0.1 you are actually connecting back to the client machine
05:04<duclicsic>no that address always lives there
05:05<duclicsic>your phone has multiple interfaces, one of them will be the WLAN interface that I presume you're connected to the network with
05:05<techie28>how to find that out?
05:05<duclicsic>on the phone you can run 'ip addr' from the terminal and it'll show all interfaces and associated addresses
05:06<duclicsic>android also allows you to see your wifi connection details from the settings menu iirc
05:07<duclicsic>but all of this aside, you shouldn't need to know the IP address of the phone, you need to know the IP address of the host you're trying to ssh to
05:08<techie28>yea..
05:09<techie28>when I do hostname it says debian
05:09<techie28>but root@debian doesnt work
05:09<duclicsic>i said "IP address"
05:09<duclicsic>not "hostname"
05:09<techie28>how to find out which IP to use?
05:09<duclicsic>that hostname is not something the phone knows about
05:10<duclicsic>have you ever used ssh before?
05:10<techie28>on wlan it shows 72.16.0.33
05:10<techie28>once on my old phone yes.. but this phone is new Im trying to set up on this.
05:10<Kyhwana>techie28: wait, what exactly are you trying to ssh to from your phone?
05:11<duclicsic>again, your debian machine will have at least two interfaces
05:11<duclicsic>run 'ip addr' to list them and their addresses
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05:12<techie28>Kyhwana: my debian laptop sometimes hang up so instead of hard booting I can restart via ssh through my phone.
05:12<duclicsic>and I would suggest at least going and reading some of the very basics of networking
05:12<Kyhwana>^
05:12<Kyhwana>techie28: you need to put in the IP address of your laptop.
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05:14<techie28>thanks. that worked
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05:14<duclicsic>what was the IP you used?
05:14<techie28>I got in a wrong direction earlier..tried to set up the hosts earlier..
05:14<techie28>one in inet addr of wlan0.. that worked.
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05:15<techie28>it is subjected to change sometime later I guess?
05:15<duclicsic>that depends entirely on how your network is set up
05:15<duclicsic>but generally internal addressing like that shouldn't change
05:15<duclicsic>i am however rather curious that you earlier gave an address "72.16.0.33" as belonging to a wifi interface
05:16<techie28>there are many devices/systems on this lan..so it may change later?
05:16<duclicsic>when your whois on this channel shows you coming from an IP in a very different part of the world. you're not using 72.16.0.X for your LAN IP range are you?
05:16<techie28>sorry It was a typo it was 172 not 72
05:16<duclicsic>ahhh
05:16<techie28>sorry
05:16<duclicsic>i should've spotted that
05:16<duclicsic>that's fine then
05:17<techie28>thanks
05:17<techie28>I was a windows user earlier.. :P
05:17<techie28>switched to debian..
05:17<duclicsic>most of us were at some point, i'm sure
05:18<techie28>is there a way to see the devices on my LAN? A GUI program for that?
05:18<techie28>NMAP is on CLI
05:18<duclicsic>nmap has several gui options
05:18<duclicsic>zenmap for example
05:18<techie28>ok
05:18<duclicsic>but using it in the cli is much better
05:19<techie28>can one install ZENMAP if NMAP CLI is not there?
05:19<duclicsic>this will list all lan hosts assuming your IP range is 172.16.0.0/24: sudo nmap -sP -PR 172.16.0.0/24
05:19<duclicsic>zenmap likely requires that the nmap cli be installed
05:20<duclicsic>if you install it from the debian repositories it'll probably give you both
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05:21<techie28>ok
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05:22<techie28>but it is relatively easy to see the devices/systems on the LAN on a GUI..that way we can easily copy the files they share.
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05:23<grawity>nmap has scripts for scanning via NetBIOS &c.
05:23<grawity>(that's what your "GUI" uses to list file shares)
05:24<dr0lan>Hi guys, I've been having this issue for a while now, whenever I plug in a monitor and tell xrandr to extend my main one with this one on the right, I get logged out with all applications shut down. The only way it works is if they are duplicating. Any ideeas? Up until now it worked if I added the monitor before I've booted, but now that doesn't help either.
05:25<dr0lan>the command I give is xrandr --output HDMI-1 --right-of eDP-1
05:26<Nemoder_>maybe check your xorg log for errors
05:27<dr0lan>looking into that now, thanks
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05:37<dr0lan>I renamed Xorg.0.log to Xorg.1.log and did the xrandr thing again, but I don't think I see any error related to the monitor, just some missing nouveau errors & a AIGLX: Reverting to software rendering error. Maybe it's nouveau related?
05:37<dr0lan>missing modules *
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05:39<jm_>also check if xsession log has any errors
05:42<willem>Remember me? High IO load under wheezy with 3.16.
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05:42<Echoz>willem: I recall hearing about it
05:42<willem>I find lowering vfs_cache_pressure from 100 to 10, brings performance back in line with what I had on 3.2
05:42<willem>I still don't know why, though
05:43<dr0lan>xsessions doesn't have any useful output either I think :(
05:43<willem>it looks like the kernel is evicting entries from the ionode or dentries cache too aggressively.
05:43<willem>but nothing I can find in the kernel changelog seems like it should cause a change in that behaviour
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05:46<Echoz>willem: mine is at 100 with 3.16, not running anything heavy on this server though
05:47<willem>I find that a box that is slightly under load, if you do a zip or a find -print in a sufficiently complex directory tree, will make the load skyrocket. Boot back to 3.2, and the load will stay stable
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05:49<Echoz>i'll try find / and see
05:50<Echoz>iostat reported a peak of 6 MBps
05:51<willem>slabtop -o ?
05:52<Echoz>what info do you want from there?
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05:56<willem>what percentage of dentry and ext4_inode_cache is in use?
05:56<diego>hi, my laptop keyboard works badly if I turn on numlock, it maps the arrows to the numbers (2 4 6 8), home to 7, etc... like if they were on the keypad ... but also automatically repeats the keys if I press them ... I think some update broke the keyboard mappings for laptops with numpads, plugging a usb keyboard works
05:56<diego>anyone know where to look for a possible fix ?
05:58<Echoz>willem: both 99%
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06:01<willem>great, but no real performanec hit?
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06:02<willem>are you on 3.16 because you are running a backports kernel on wheezy, or because you are running Jessie? Also, 32 or 64 version of 3.16?
06:02<lpapp>jm_: what would you suggest next? I shall get in touch with the screen developers over their mailing list or whatever medium they prefer for further advices?
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06:02<lpapp>it has gone long beyond my league.
06:03<jm_>lpapp: if it was me I'd build my own copy with debugging printfs or whatever to find out what it wants
06:04<themill>.o0 (use tmux? )
06:05<lpapp>jm_: that can be done in parallel
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06:05<lpapp>although I would rather prefer someone with the required skills responding.
06:05<lpapp>I do not have time for yet another pet project :-)
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06:20<Echoz>willem: i'm running jessie, and no i notice no performance hit, however it's hard to tell since it's just ssh to my mail server
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06:45<nickgoot>hello. Please, give me russian debian, if you can
06:45<bremner>!ru
06:45<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
06:45<nickgoot>thanks :)
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07:20<Attila|da>hello. Anyone knows when mariadb with fix for CVE-2016-6662 will come into jessie
07:23<themill>Based on https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-6662, it sounds like that depends on whether anyone can figure out what Oracle has done
07:23<jm_>:)
07:24<Attila|da>mariadb is not from oracle
07:24<themill>the CVE and fix are
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07:25<themill>(please read the info linked above)
07:25<Attila|da>ok
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08:18<lpapp>jm_: look at that, http://sprunge.us/JfJR
08:18<lpapp>[pid 15034] open("/dev/ptmx", O_RDWR) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
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08:18<lpapp>one has to be in some specific group to use screen? I thought that is what setgid was for?
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08:31<lpapp>jm_: what does ls -ld /dev/ptmx return for you?
08:31<lpapp>root:root for me
08:31<lpapp>and then c-------, i.e. 0000
08:32<lpapp>my friend has crw-rw-rw- 1 root root on it on Debian
08:33<lpapp>can anyone with a working screen give me the output of ls -ld /dev/ptmx on wheezy please?
08:33<lpapp>just to confirm that our server broke that.
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08:45<grawity>ptmx is supposed to be a+rw
08:45<grawity>otherwise pretty much *all* terminal emulators break
08:46<lpapp>that is what I would imagine, yeah.
08:46<lpapp>but obviously, it is not just chmoding
08:46<lpapp>it must be brought up through udev or systemd somehow with the right permissions
08:46<lpapp>so I am surprised to see this.
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08:47<lpapp>which script is supposed to bring it up with the right permissions? I think that script would need to be checked, yeah?
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08:51<EmleyMoor>I note the latest libssl can't be installed with skype also installed - do I need to await new skype or is there a workaround?
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08:56<grawity>50-udev-default.rules
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09:04<lpapp>grawity: there is nothing in /etc/udev/rules.d/
09:05<lpapp>perhaps reinstalling udev on wheezy 7.11 would help my friend?
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09:06<lpapp>should the default udev package on wheezy come with proper /dev/ptmx setup?
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09:12<lpapp>grawity: which package ships that file for you? My friend with a working screen on Wheezy does not have such a rule file either.
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09:14<lpapp>grawity: actually, ptmx is in /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules
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09:52<klando>hi, I am trying to do some low level access to a USB disk device. I try to prevent udev systemd and friends to auto-discover and mknod the device.
09:52<klando>I stoped udev , but systemd still spinnup disk. How can I prevetn any automatic action ?
09:55<petn-randall>klando: What do you mean with systemd still spinned up your disk?
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10:01<klando>petn-randall, whenver I plug the usb idks, it starts spinning and mknod for /dev/sdX
10:01<klando>s/idks/disk/ sorry
10:01<klando>I want to be able to plug the disk, andmknod myself.
10:01<petn-randall>klando: I think the spinning has nothing to do with systemd. Have you tried it while in BIOS?
10:02<klando>well, at least I want toprevent linux from trying to create device, because disk start and then disconnect (bad sector maybe)
10:02<klando>I *known* it's possible tpo preent that as I did before
10:02<klando>before systemd ...
10:03<klando>and I don't knowthat much new commands
10:03<grawity>lpapp: ah, that must be a Debian diff
10:03<grawity>klando: /dev is populated by the kernel
10:04<grawity>klando: for USB, your easiest option is to use https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/authorization.txt
10:04<grawity>klando: or maybe edit the udev rules to not call blkid for your specific device
10:04<klando>ah yeah
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10:05<grawity>the latter won't prevent a mknod, but it should at least prevent some disk accesses causing the spinup
10:06<petn-randall>klando: It's still not systemd-related unless you provide evidence.
10:06<petn-randall>klando: My USB cases all spin up the disk when turning them on, regardless of if the USB is even connected or not.
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10:09<klando>grawity, using /sys auth did the trick, just the small initial spin
10:09<klando>tks
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11:08<xSmurf>say, is there a better way for a source package to place the compiled binaries in sbin instead of bin other than .install file?
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12:59<kion>can someone tell me why my laptop is listening with a process called 579/rpc.statd , what does it do?
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13:09<retrospectacus>it is related to NFS.
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13:11<retrospectacus>google can tell you all about it. If you don't want it, you can purge rpcbind and nfs-common packages
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13:21<kion>thanks retrospectacus I did purge them, I hope it won't create an issue latter
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14:16<invitado>hola
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15:54<covey>Hi! Can someone please explain what a tap device is?
15:55<grawity>on Linux? a virtual network interface whose 'other' end goes into a program
15:55<grawity>usually used by VPN apps
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15:56<covey>Hmm. So - i have pfSense on a VM which uses a bridge. But, if a VPN into I can't contact the host server. Is there a way to create a virtual interface on the host and have it get ip from pfSense dhcp?
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15:59<grawity>hmm, the bridge should already do just that
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16:02<covey>Hmmm. The bridge gets the ip 10.0.0.1 and is used by pfSense as LAN. All other containers and VMs (using proxmox btw :) ) successfully gets ip from this bridge, but they only "know of" pfSense. And when tunneled into pfSense from WAN ip, i can see all containers and vms, but not the host :-(
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16:17<blu>hi guys. I've just installed auditd to watch for a hand full of files - I configured it, however it still logs stuff like root logins, sudo and what not. I only want it to log the files I want it to watch.
16:18<blu>my config: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dbfd68eb/
16:18<blu>ah there is a chan for audit..
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16:28<blu>found it, auditctl -a exclude,always -F msgtype=LOGIN and so on..
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21:11<ben_v>Hi! I just installed Debian 8.5 in VirtualBox on my Mac. Reports of a difficult install were exaggerated. ;)
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22:41<Cosmos82>Hello all. Having problems getting a script to start. According to the LSB Init Scripts article, the syntax of my script seems to be fine. It just fails to start at boot time.
22:41<Cosmos82> Here's the script: https://paste.kde.org/p6tlhdvmi
22:42<Cosmos82>What am I doing wrong?
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22:50<somiaj>Cosmos82: are you running debian jessie?
22:51<Cosmos82>Yes.
22:51<somiaj>by default debian jessie uses systemd. It might be worth just using a unit file over an lsb init script (though systemd does support LSB init scripts)
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22:54<Cosmos82>Hmmm... Okay. I'll go look up how to write a unit file then
22:54<somiaj>but to debug systemd you will have to use systemctl.
22:54<Cosmos82>Oh... Okay
22:54<somiaj>it should tell you about that init script, but unsure on the details here
22:54<Cosmos82>Let me try and see. Thanks
22:57<Cosmos82>somiaj, have run systemctl --all. Nothing very descriptive regarding why it failed.
22:58<somiaj>http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/233468/how-does-systemd-use-etc-init-d-scripts might be informative
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