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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-09-20

---Logopened Tue Sep 20 00:00:06 2016
---Daychanged Tue Sep 20 2016
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00:17<prophetbeta>jmcnaught: im back... and my system isn't working
00:17<prophetbeta>lol
00:17<jmcnaught>what's wrong?
00:19<prophetbeta>xfce dont open.. shows this: "oh no! something has gone wrong. a problem has occurred and the system can't recovery, please logout and try again"
00:20<jmcnaught>what are the steps that you just took before rebooting?
00:21<prophetbeta>i have changed sources.list (add backdoors).. and installed the backdoor..
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00:22<prophetbeta>finally <install apt-get -t jessie-backdoor nvidia-driver>
00:22<jmcnaught>backports
00:22<prophetbeta>and i rebooted when this have finished
00:22<prophetbeta>backports.
00:22<prophetbeta>sorry
00:24<jmcnaught>can you put /var/log/Xorg.0.log on https://paste.debian.net/ ?
00:24<prophetbeta>i dont know how to do it
00:25<prophetbeta>now.. i`m using windows
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00:26<jmcnaught>prophetbeta: you may need to troubleshoot this issue from the virtual terminal
00:29*prophetbeta slaps jmcnaught around a bit with a large fishbot
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00:32<prophetbeta>jmcnaught: i dont know how to use debian and stay in irc
00:32-!-trench_ is now known as trench
00:33<jmcnaught>you could try using an irc client on your phone. or you could install irssi or weechat and run it on a virtual terminal
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00:35<prophetbeta>jmcnaught: its 1:30 am here.. i`m goin to bed.. i`ll try to fix it later... thank for your help
00:36<prophetbeta>jmcnaught: see u later
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00:37<prophetbeta>jmcnaught: remember my nick
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01:57<Echoz>I guess my paste site is not fine, there's a single javascript line to change a link
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03:57<EmleyMoor>This machine shut down unexpectedly, seemingly not under control, this morning... any clues from my reboot logcheck mail?
03:57<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/830324/
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04:52<EmleyMoor>Sudden poweroff under load - likely to be thermal
04:52<EmleyMoor>?
04:55<EmleyMoor>Is there a good way to read temperatures within my system?
04:55<jm_>sensors, or sometimes you can see them via acpi
04:56<EmleyMoor>sensors seems to show me to PCI adapters only...
04:57<jm_>to PCI adapters?
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04:58<EmleyMoor>two*
04:59<EmleyMoor>However I'm not sure I'm understanding the output
04:59<jm_>do you have any hw sensors modules loaded? try sensors-detect (it can be dangerous apparently)
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05:02<jm_>i'll be back a bit later
05:05<EmleyMoor>Got them on now. Seems I have a number of out of range voltages...
05:06<EmleyMoor>(though it may just be wrong setup)
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05:09<EmleyMoor>Could do with a way to get a live "view" of sensors...
05:10<peter1138>yeah, wonky voltages is normal
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05:16<ach>dpkg install thermald
05:16<dpkg>wish i knew, ach
05:16<ach>hm
05:17<ach>jessie (stable) (admin): Thermal monitoring and controlling daemon peter1138:
05:17<ach>-*peter1138*
05:18<EmleyMoor>Really want to activate the GNOME sensors-applet
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05:23<EmleyMoor>Can't see how
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06:16<EmleyMoor>Hmm... may be temp1 on either it8721 or k10temp going too high that's knocking my machine out
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06:20<jm_>try to monitor it
06:20<jm_>so you'll have a log before it goes boom
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06:21<EmleyMoor>jm_: How do I actually log it? I could do with seeing what sort of level it's getting to...
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06:22<EmleyMoor>I am doing only one of the two big tasks I need to do now and the temperature is not rising anything like as quickly.
06:23<jm_>EmleyMoor: tools like munin, collectd, sensord etc.
06:23<EmleyMoor>Hmmm...
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06:24<jm_>if your fan speed can be adjusted from software, then fancontrol can also help getting it spin faster when needed
06:24<jm_>(assuming it doesn't do that already)
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07:08<ramo102>hi, I want to downgrade my virtualbox package via apt. Is it possible to search for previous versions of the package? I'm using stretch
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07:09<jm_>!snapshot
07:09<dpkg>http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412
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08:01<f_r3d>Hi everyone! I was wondering how to mark a thread in a mailing list as solved?
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08:18<arturo>f_r3d: perhaps simply replying to the thread with the solution
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08:18<f_r3d>I mean in the subject line, so that it appears correctly in lists.debian.org
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08:19<alumno_>hola
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08:21<arturo>f_r3d: you can't modify emails already sent :-/
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08:34<C-Keen>f_r3d: a mailing list is just a collection of post cards and the threading view is just a way to sort them by the heading author's gave the cards. Once a card is out you cannot change it
08:34<C-Keen>s,',,
08:37<f_r3d>arturo: I know but before you send it, is there something special to write un the subject line for instance? I have seen threads where SOLVED appears through all the emails.
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08:38<arturo>f_r3d: put SOLVED in the subject in the next email, in which you explain the solution to the issue
08:38<arturo>(while replying to the same thread)
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08:40<C-Keen>f_r3d: ah that's more of a convention than an automatism
08:43<f_r3d>C-Keen: when I tried it, it created a new thread http://i65.tinypic.com/2vaxlk9.png whereas when Lisi did it, it worked fine... http://i65.tinypic.com/rbl7iu.png
08:44<C-Keen>f_r3d: that also depends on your mail client and the used headers
08:45<f_r3d>ok
08:46<f_r3d>Thank you!
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09:55<t4b>Whenever I close the lid of my laptop, it crashes. I think closing the lid initiates suspend to RAM which is broken on that laptop model (no support yet) and would cause such a freeze. How do I disable this behaviour?
09:57<t4b>I'm not using a fully featured desktop environment (just i3 and some stuff) so a command line solution would be apropriate.
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09:58<t4b>Oh, sorry, should have read the manual. Solved.
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10:14<zathras>does a howto or something exist on how to build angular (2) apps on Debian Jessie without resorting to npm or the likes. I prefer using .deb packages
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10:36<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
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10:52<imedina>Hi
10:53<imedina>Good morning
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11:01<imedina>anyone?
11:02<bremner>!ask
11:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:06<imedina>I have Debian 8, and I'm having problems with my hdmi audio output, my video board is an ATI Radeon 260X. I wanna know which video driver should i use or if there is any config i should set. Thanks in advance
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11:06<mithilesh>hhhh
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11:13<bremner>imedina: according to this table, hdmi out is supported only for some models. But you have to figure out which family your card is in: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
11:13<bremner>that's support in the free drivers.
11:14<bremner>maybe "Sea Islands" if it's an R7 260, dunno
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14:10<linurc>What is the usual source for installing packages like ncurses?
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14:10<linurc>I just installed the OS and cannot seem to find the appropriate repository.
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14:12<petn-randall>linurc: Which OS?
14:12<linurc>Debian Jesse 8
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14:13<linurc>I've installed the library on a different install of debian but I cannot remember what repository was being used.
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14:14<petn-randall>linurc: It usually comes with repositories pre-configured. How are you trying to install it?
14:14<linurc>apt-get install ncurses
14:15<blast007>are you trying to compile softwaree that uses ncurses?
14:15<petn-randall>linurc: And what error message do you get?
14:15<linurc>No, I'm just trying to install ncurses to eventually use with configuring a custom kernel build.
14:15<linurc>I just says it's not available but is referred to by another package.
14:16<linurc>> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
14:16<linurc>That's why I thought it has to be a repository issue.
14:17<blast007>there's libncurses5, but you'd generally not have to install that manually as it would be a dependency of some other package
14:17<petn-randall>linurc: That's because that package name doesn't exist. 'apt-cache search ncurses' will show you a list.
14:17<linurc>Oh, man. I totally forgot about the name thing. Sorry guys.
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14:18<blast007>there's also ncurses-bin which contains some binaries, but I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for
14:18<blast007>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/ncurses-bin/filelist
14:18<linurc>Nah. I think I figured it out.
14:18<blast007>k
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14:19<blueturtl>just upgraded from wheezy to jessie only to find my system in a perpetual reboot loop as soon as grub is supposed to come up, any takers?
14:19<blueturtl>tried a clean install on another disk, same thing
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14:20<blueturtl>super grub disk2 will boot the installed system just fine
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14:20<blast007>did you tell it to install grub during the install process?
14:21<blueturtl>yeah
14:22<blast007>is this UEFI or legacy boot?
14:22<blueturtl>it's an ancient via c3 micro server
14:23<blueturtl>i just find it weird that the grub super disk finds and is able to run the installed grub entries, via usb
14:24<blueturtl>but the grub on the internal hdd just causes an instant reboot
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14:24<blast007>!fixmbr
14:24<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
14:24<blast007>dunno if the above will help, but worth a shot
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14:24<blueturtl>can i do that from a running system?
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14:26<blast007>yeah, if you're already in the system, you can skip the start of all that and just jump straignt to the "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever" part (where /dev/whatever would be /dev/sda or similar, not /dev/sda1)
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14:30<blueturtl>ok, did that - will report back in a minute or two...
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14:36<blueturtl>still the same thing. i'm clueless, jessie runs great other than this
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16:01<ProphetSC>hello
16:01<ProphetSC>jmcnaught, i`m back.. with debian!!!
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17:14<pastrani>Yo!, whats up people!
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17:14<pastrani>I have a question about Debian?
17:16<pastrani>How come I cannot dual boot Debian with Wind0ze 10?
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17:16<Lirion>you can. specify.
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17:17<pastrani>When I finish installing Debian and reboot, I get the grub prompt.
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17:18<pastrani>This happens with any derivative of Debian.
17:19<pastrani>I don't know what to do.
17:19<pastrani>Damn UEFI!!!
17:19<Lirion>uefi system used with non-uefi install mode?
17:19<Lirion>...guessed so.
17:20<Lirion>try to boot from the uefi part of the install image and not just addressing the cd device as such
17:20<pastrani>My laptop is Dell a Inspiron 3558.
17:21<pastrani>I will try that. THANX!
17:21<pastrani>Who the heck invented UEFI in the first place?!?
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17:22<pastrani>I'll be right back. I have to walk my crazy dog!
17:22<Lirion>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#History
17:22<Lirion>there's the answer
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17:23<Lirion>and while I'm not loving EFI, get used to something and then curse it if you will. but be patient
17:23<Lirion>that's what I'm doing, faced with EFI for three weeks now.
17:24<pastrani>Much appreciated Lirion!
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17:48<R4F_Debian>Hi all, I will have to upgrade the kernel in one of Debian GNU/Linux Jessie installation that I use, but a bit confused about what option to use in this case: http://paste.debian.net/830758/
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17:49<R4F_Debian>what should be the newest and more secure version for that purpose ? Don't know yet if my question does make sense...
17:50<R4F_Debian>I need an updated kernel version for testing 'btrfs' in Debian GNU/Linux 8.5 (amd64)
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17:57<blast007>R4F_Debian: are you running an amd64 kernel?
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17:58<blast007>sorry, dumb question, looked at the paste and they're all that ;)
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17:58<R4F_Debian>yes, blast, amd64 here
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18:01<blast007>if you do 'apt-get install -t jessie-backports linux-image-amd64' it'll install and track the jessie-backports kernel
18:01<R4F_Debian>Please, blast007, does backports kernel permit you the latest release ?
18:02<blast007>it currently points at a 4.6 kernel
18:03<Lirion>new does not necessarily equal more secure. and if you're aiming at what btrfs to use, for that I'd start with https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Changelog. then, do apt search btrfs and you'll see it doesn't matter on the tools side whether you choose backports or stable
18:03<Lirion>anywho, you did activate both repositories - backports are more recent stuff backported into stable
18:03<Lirion>4.6 and 4.7 are backports, 3.6 is stable
18:03<Lirion>period
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18:05<R4F_Debian>thanks for suggestion, blast007, I saw 4.7 version here but was in doubt about which version to be used
18:05<R4F_Debian>Thanks for hint, Lirion
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18:06<R4F_Debian>in fact, Lirion, I use 3.16.0-4 version here - stable version
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18:07<R4F_Debian>Thanks for Great Support and Help, blast007, Glad to see you again :)
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18:55<drjuls>hi
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18:57<drjuls>Greetings! I installed Skype on Debian jessie according to DebianWiki . However, the audio does not work. In place of the speakers and microphone appear : virtual device .
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