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---Logopened Wed Sep 28 00:00:29 2016
---Daychanged Wed Sep 28 2016
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00:03<ederjesus>Hi guys, I need to fix an issue that I have on my Debian Jessie installation
00:03<ederjesus>I'm using an nVidia Optimus card
00:04<ederjesus>and I already installed Bumblebee as per Debian wiki - https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
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00:04<ederjesus>but I am facing issues when I hibernate the computer
00:04<ederjesus>when I tried to get it back again
00:05<ederjesus>I got a back screen and the CapLock do not work
00:05<ederjesus>from https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend I see there is a note about "Fixing corrupted video on resume"
00:06<ederjesus>and this think is related to KernelModesetting page - https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
00:06<ederjesus>but I was not able to set the configs on my machine and get hibernate option work as it should be
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00:21<lisk0v>How do I run irssi as screen in Debian?
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00:33<jmcnaught>lisk0v: "screen -DR" and then "irssi"
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02:26<sad>Hi people
02:26<sad>i can't use smplayer on my antix 16. Can you help me please?
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02:27<twb>!antix
02:27<dpkg>antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
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02:49<hannoh>Hello
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02:51<hannoh>I kind of lost everything in /boot/. Is there any package for these files?
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02:52<twb>hannoh: dpkg -S /boot, should tell you everything that was in there (I think)
02:52<twb>hannoh: but most likely you need: bootloader, kernel, ramdisk
02:53<twb>aptitude install --reinstall '?installed ?name(linux-image)'
02:53<twb>...something like that should work for the kernel part, and MIGHT rebuild the ramdisks for you.
02:53<twb>Otherwise "update-initramfs" is the command you need
02:53<hannoh>Alright I give it a go
02:54<twb>For the bootloader, most likely you used GRUB2. I think there is grub-install, but I personally can't support grub.
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02:54<hannoh>Already reinstalled grub
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02:54<twb>One thing I do is make the /boot filesystem mounted ro by default, then tell apt-get to remount,rw and remount,ro on either side of an install
02:54<twb>Although IIRC that breaks when you use grub
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02:59<hannoh>aptitude reinstall 'linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64' works and even rebuilds the initrd image
02:59<hannoh>All files back, thank you
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03:01<twb>OK, but be careful the first time you reboot :-)
03:01<twb>make sure you have a live medium ready to rescue from
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04:06<v3n0mbyt35_>Guys, can I get a set of Pentesting tools for Debian?
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04:12<arturo>v3n0mbyt35_: take a look at this https://tracker.debian.org/teams/pkg-security/
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04:17<twb>Most actual pentesters I know just use Kali --- though we can't support that here
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04:29<peter1138>yeah, my security auditors asked why i didn't use kail..
04:29<peter1138>er, kali
04:29<PerfDave>Most actual pentesters I know use Windows, with a Kali VM :)
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04:30<twb>PerfDave: agree :-(
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06:04<Walter_White45>Hello
06:05<Walter_White45>Does anyone know how to install the bitcoin client on Debian?
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06:09<petn-randall>,v bitcoin-qt
06:09<judd>Package: bitcoin-qt on amd64 -- sid: 0.12.1-0.1+b1; experimental: 0.13.0-0.1~exp1
06:09<Walter_White45>E: Unable to locate package bitcoin-qt
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06:10<Walter_White45>That's what it says
06:10<petn-randall>Walter_White45: It was removed because there regularly are updates that aren't backported to older versions. You have to install it by hand.
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06:10<Walter_White45>And how?
06:10<petn-randall>Walter_White45: Removed from stable/testing that is. Check the clients web page, they usually have installation instructions.
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06:14<Walter_White45>Hmm, okay
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06:30<v3n0mbyt35_>Guys, how do I enable the launcher in Gnome in debian?
06:30<v3n0mbyt35_>Jessie stable 8.
06:36<TotallyNotKim>v3n0mbyt35_: Launcher? You mean that overview when pressing the superkey or 'running' into the top left corner?
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06:37<v3n0mbyt35_>Nah, the one which is usually on the left side
06:37<v3n0mbyt35_>and from where you can select applications to run
06:37<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: doesn't it appear when you open the overview?
06:37<v3n0mbyt35_>a type of dock which is present in most DEs
06:38<TotallyNotKim>ah
06:38<v3n0mbyt35_>It does when I press the windows key
06:38<TotallyNotKim>that one isn't like say the one in ubuntu's unity
06:38<v3n0mbyt35_>but it's not always there.
06:38<TotallyNotKim>try docky
06:38<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: If you want it to always appear there is a plugin for that, however that functionality is not built into gnome
06:39<v3n0mbyt35_>which plugin
06:39<v3n0mbyt35_>and docky?
06:39<TotallyNotKim>docky provides a dock yu can place wherever you like on the screen, apply themes, enable auto hide, add shortcuts etc
06:40<TotallyNotKim>Pretty sure that's what you want
06:40<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: I would advise against using a separate application as a dock in a large DE like Gnome, I'll find the name of the plugin in just a second, though
06:40<v3n0mbyt35_>Okay THanks.
06:41<v3n0mbyt35_>And meanwhile I want to uninstall all other DEs except Gnome which I installed during the installation. Any help on that?
06:42<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: that's not as easy as it sounds as they pull a lot of dependencies that other programs may also depend on, you could try removing the metapackges and running autoremove, though
06:43<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: For the plugins you should get the package gnome-tweak-tool. the plugin you'd want to get is called "Dash to dock"
06:43<TotallyNotKim>Echoz: Is this the plugin you're talking about? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
06:43<TotallyNotKim>ah
06:43<TotallyNotKim>nvm
06:43<Echoz>TotallyNotKim: Yes :)
06:43<TotallyNotKim>will try it out too, thanks
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07:51<scootergrisen>How can i set the keyboard to my languages layout so that it will work correctly from boot?
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07:52<scootergrisen>I i use "locales=da_DK.UTF-8 keyboard-layouts=dk" but are there more settings?
07:52<scootergrisen>And can i set the keyboard layout so that it works correctly at GRUB boot so that i does not use the english layout
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08:24<mischievio>scootergrisen: yeah, you can make it load up so that it works in GRUB
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08:24<mischievio>edit your /etc/mkinitcpio.conf
08:25<mischievio>there should be a line, towards the bottom, which says "HOOKS=base udev ... block filesystems ... "
08:26<mischievio>between "block" and "filesystems" you should add "keymap" and save
08:26<mischievio>then run `mkinitcpio -p linux`
08:27<mischievio>as long as you've set your keymap to be your desired layout, and made it persistent, this should give you your keymap from boot
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08:49<grummund>apt-get install systemd from backports wants to remove my kernel (also installed from backports).
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08:49<grummund>is there a command to track down why it wants to do this?
08:50<grummund>http://paste.debian.net/843103/
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08:53<scootergrisen>I dont have a /etc/mkinitcpio.conf file
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09:00<jcrain>grummund: aptitude install --show-why could help
09:02<towo^work>grummund, apt-get install systemd/jessie-backports would propably never work, try apt -t jessie-backports install systemd
09:03<grummund>jcrain: thanks i will try that
09:03<grummund>towo^work: is there a difference?
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09:08<jcrain>grummund: I think maybe "-t jessie-backports" will also try dependencies from jessie-backports, while systemd/jessie-backports will only do that one package from jessie-backports
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09:12<grummund>hey that's it ;) thank you both
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09:32<scootergrisen>How can i configure GRUB if i dont have /etc/mkinitcpio.conf ? i want to set the keyboard layout so it works correct in GRUB on boot
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09:57<v3n0mbyt35_>Hey guys
09:57<v3n0mbyt35_>can you help me in installing skype on debian jessie stable 8.0?
10:00<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: I can when I get home, workday's over :)
10:00<Echoz>I'll PM you and help if you haven't gotten it working by then
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10:06<stephen0001>v3n0mbyt35_: why don't you use from inside your web browser?
10:06<stephen0001>that's how I use it
10:08<v3n0mbyt35_>How can I do it
10:08<v3n0mbyt35_>?
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10:13<stephen0001>https://web.skype.com/
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10:16<v3n0mbyt35_>alright.
10:17<v3n0mbyt35_>And is there a pentesting tool pack available for debian?
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10:18<t>lol @ v3nom you want to pentest but you cant even install skype?
10:18<t>might want to dial it back a lil and learn the basics
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10:20<t>plus pentesting isnt all that, its often boring, cramped in the back of a stalker van eating junk food and beer, getting harassed by secuirty douchebags, long stretches of no activity, and your work product is some stack of paper of varying thickness
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10:22<TheOnlyJoey>Good day, i have a issue with gnome keyboard settings asserting on a clean install on testing
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10:22<TheOnlyJoey>am i missing a package (net install using desktop gnome default), or is this a actual bug
10:23<t>99% sure its operator error
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10:23<t>sadly i dont know what asserting means in this context or i could rule ot uthat 1%
10:24<TheOnlyJoey>t: a assert is a specific kind of programmer defined crash
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10:24<t>huh
10:24<t>no it isnt
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10:24<t>its a term used in testing
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10:24<t>like asert(foo, bar)
10:24<TheOnlyJoey>t: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertion_%28software_development%29
10:24<t>no shit dude
10:25<blast007>TheOnlyJoey: testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
10:25<TheOnlyJoey>blast007: thanks will ask there
10:25<t>cearly i am too jaded to hang out in here ;p
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10:26*bremner sheds a tear
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10:26<bremner>TheOnlyJoey: maybe start by showing/pastebinning the actual error?
10:27<TheOnlyJoey>bremner: i normally first check if it is a common error, pastebinning is second step
10:27<blast007>so far you haven't specified an error
10:28<blast007>but still, #debian-next
10:28<v3n0mbyt35_>I know how to install skype
10:28<v3n0mbyt35_>But it was giving me errors before about dependencies.
10:29<blast007>v3n0mbyt35_: that would be part of installing skype
10:29<v3n0mbyt35_>You should just help me.
10:30<bremner>you may want to change your tone, to get more help.
10:30<TheOnlyJoey>v3n0mbyt35_: i suggest using Skype for Linux Alpha in any case, since the old version is barely functional https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34656/more-information-about-skype-for-linux-alpha
10:31<v3n0mbyt35_>Okay.
10:31<v3n0mbyt35_>Yeah, I should.
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10:32<Echoz>TheOnlyJoey: doesn't this have ads?
10:32<v3n0mbyt35_>So any pentesting tools available for debian?
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10:34<TheOnlyJoey>Echoz: don't think so, don't have it open now
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10:34<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: lots, i'd suggest looking up some for what you're trying to pentest on the web. some will be in the repos, some perhaps installable throigh pip
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10:34<TheOnlyJoey>but since the older one can't even recieve calls, its kind of useless
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10:35<v3n0mbyt35_>Just like there is a whole toolkit available on Kali Linux. I will want something like that.
10:35<blast007>v3n0mbyt35_: for that, you might be better served using a specialized distro (such as Kali) when you're wanting to run pentests, and use Debian for your normal day-to-day stuff
10:35<Echoz>TheOnlyJoey: really? last time I used it I could call just fine, but the other end may also have been running an older version
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10:37<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: i suggest setting up a vm with macvtap if you are on a desktop. if you're on a laptop and dont need direct access to pci like the wlan nic this will also do fine on a laptop
10:38<Echoz>sloppy sentence, typing on a phone keyboard is so slow i forget what i'be said
10:38<stephen0001>v3n0mbyt35_: you do realize that the link I gave you is basically wrapped around a node.js (Electron) app and loads that for you, don't you?
10:39<v3n0mbyt35_>Okay. Echoz you told me that many tools are available. Can you give me the repos?
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10:40<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: not as a metapackage but as separate packages in the debian repos. also some may be available with pip (python-pip)
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10:43<Echoz>also netcat would probably be your swiss army knife
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11:14<Echoz>v3n0mbyt35_: I'm home. Have you gotten skype up and running yet?
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11:18<scootergrisen>How do i know what my graphics card support in VBE?
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11:18<scootergrisen>So i can set GRUB_GFXMODE=?x?
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11:21<Echoz>scootergrisen: shouldn't grub automatically detect the highest supported now?
11:21<scootergrisen>I don't know.
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11:22<Echoz>scootergrisen: what resolution do you get and what resolution do you want, though?
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11:23<scootergrisen>I want to know what resolutions my card supports in VBE
11:23<scootergrisen>I think is uses 640x480 or something now as default
11:23<scootergrisen>But if i would run it at full resolution that would be nive
11:24<scootergrisen>nice
11:24<Echoz>scootergrisen: I see, I know how to do it in Plan 9, but not so sure about Linux. going to look into it
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11:25<scootergrisen> /etc/default/grub says "you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'"... Can't i use that command in a terminal in GNOME?
11:25<scootergrisen>Guess not
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11:26<Echoz>scootergrisen: Linux normally doesn't use vesa framebuffers anymore, so I believe the modules are not loaded and cannot access that information
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11:28<Echoz>scootergrisen: Are you booting with EFI or MBR?
11:28<scootergrisen>I think MBR
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11:29<Echoz>scootergrisen: Good, beacuse this is apparently different i EFI
11:30<Echoz>scootergrisen: perhaps try to run hwinfo --framebuffer
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11:31<Echoz>if you don't have hwinfo it's in the package of the same name. and this has to be run as root.
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11:32<scootergrisen>Thanks i got some modes. 1024x768 seems to be the highest
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11:34<Echoz>scootergrisen: do you have a 4:3 aspect ratio?
11:35<Echoz>If not you'd probably have better results with a lower resolution in your native ratio. But chances are that's not available seeing as the max is that low
11:35<scootergrisen>16:9
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11:36<Echoz>I see. If you're not like me and can bear a reboot I'd suggest checking vbeinfo in the grub command line as well, in case it yields different results
11:36<scootergrisen>1366x768 is max screen res
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11:36<Echoz>scootergrisen: I see. What laptop is this?
11:37<scootergrisen>packard bell
11:38<Echoz>I see. I was thinking maybe I'd have the same situation on my laptop, but it appears to support 1920x1440, however no widescreen modes, which is what it's display is
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11:39<Echoz>mine is probably too old to support widescreen framebuffers, i suppose
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11:44<Echoz>it's a thinkpad anyway, not a packard bell
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11:52<scootergrisen>Thanks i will go now :)
11:52<scootergrisen>bye bye
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12:20<INIT2809>my mistake, sorry
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14:18<ThomasKeller>I know how to find which package installed particular file
14:18<ThomasKeller>dpkg -S <file>
14:18<dpkg>There is no record of a <file> package
14:19<ThomasKeller>but how do I find out, which package added a new user ?
14:19<ThomasKeller>suddenly, new user appeared in my /etc/passwd
14:19<ThomasKeller>usbmux
14:20<ThomasKeller>and I have no idea where it came from
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14:30<itd>ThomasKeller: maybe "usbmuxd" (see https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-gtkpod/packages/usbmuxd.git/tree/debian/usbmuxd.postinst )?
14:30<ThomasKeller>OK, but is there a general way how to find which package added user "foo" ?
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14:33<itd>If you can run arbitrary scripts (like this) after an install I suspect: no.
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14:53<itd>I'd like to have the package docker.io >= 1.8.2 since bpo has 1.6.2 I need to build it from source (right?). While trying that I did run into a dependency cycle (https://paste.debian.net/plain/843379). How can I "break" that cycle?
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14:56<retrospectacus>Ideally you won't need to *build* it; just obtain a suitable binary installer, already built
14:58<retrospectacus>https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/debian/
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15:01<itd>Wouldn't that create a frankendebian?
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15:07<retrospectacus>yes. *ideally* ideally you would not do that but then you stuck with an old version
15:08<retrospectacus>frankendebian can be managed if you know what you're doing, just don't expect help here
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15:19<Echoz>Frankendebian is love, frankendebian is life <3
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15:22<itd>Thank you. (I had hoped that I could avoid the docker.com repository.) :)
15:22<itd>How does the (debian) package build tool (detect/) break such a dependency cycle?
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15:28<ach>hi
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15:29<retrospectacus>magix?
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15:31<bremner>itd: cycles are detected by external tools (or blind luck).
15:31<bremner>Some cycles are actually necessary because of e.g. bootstrapping
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15:43<itd>Okay, thanks. (Wouldn't have expected that there.)
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15:46<bremner>it's ugly, but e.g. gcc needs a C compiler...
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16:19<ach>so shit arround but you didn't shit it all?
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16:27<Luqman>hey, i'm having an issue with the maven package. Usually the mvn command has a -X flag to enable debug output but on my debian machine i've found that it ignores that flag and instead I have to change some config in /etc/maven
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16:33<itd>Luqman: and how can we help you?
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16:43<Luqman>itd: that doesn't seem to be the behaviour in non-debian installations of maven. The debug flag is effectively rendered useless and it's unreasonable to have to modify a global config
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16:55<xd_>Hello guys, could i get some help please. I am true noob and did some things i shouldn't of and now i have bunch of kthreadds stuck in limbo with no processes attached i have tried so many ways to get rid of it. It won't leave. I have teamviwer installed if somebody could help please. I have been trying to fix this problem for a month now. So please. I would truly appreciate it so much. I can answer any questions you may have to my knowledge.
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16:59<jmcnaught>xd_: what do you mean in limbo? are they bothering you?
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17:00<xd_>yes they are sir.
17:01<xd_>they corrupt my system of time and inbetween that if keep computer running they will hang the computer and freeze it.
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17:01<jmcnaught>xd_: can you show what you're talking about in a paste?
17:02<xd_>yes sir one sec.
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17:04<xd_>i'm sorry man, i got health with my brain whats the command the terminal to list the processes
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17:04<ryouma>xd_: i presume you did not reboot and desire to not reboot?
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17:05<xd_>I did reboot, unplugged the computer, still there. I also reformated the computer and deleted both of the swap and ext 4 drive manually and built partion manually and tehre still there
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17:06<jmcnaught>xd_: 'ps -e' but it's pretty normal for the kernel to have a bunch of processes
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17:07<jmcnaught>xd_: 'ps -ef' gives a bit more info
17:07<ryouma>in fact, i sometimes get processes for filesystems i never use
17:07<ryouma>the kernel is just mysterious
17:08<xd_>i truly know it is but htis is actually causing issues with my system. I mean it is my fault but i was learning something, trying fameriazlie myself with something.
17:08<xd_>but here
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17:08<xd_> here is a few
17:08<xd_>root 1 0 0 11:27 ? 00:00:01 /lib/systemd/systemd --system --
17:08<xd_>root 2 0 0 11:27 ? 00:00:00 [kthreadd]
17:08<xd_>root 3 2 0 11:27 ? 00:00:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
17:08<xd_>root 5 2 0 11:27 ? 00:00:00 [kworker/0:0H]
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17:48*awal1 Thinks that debhelper maybe have to be a be more explicit about the kick/flood. something like try to reconnect again but dont paste more then 4 lines in the channel.
17:51*awal1 Thinks that some users may confuse kick vs ban vs you're not desired the channel
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18:18<ceon>Hi
18:18<ceon>I would love as standard user - deb 8 derviate use history
18:18<ceon>but shell hates me :-(
18:18<ceon>as root it loves perfectly
18:19<ceon>What do I have to write in :bashrc?
18:19<ceon>.
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18:37<retrospectacus>ceon: install debian :) or ask in your distro's channel
18:38<ceon>mine distro chanell are just a punch of arrogant people
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18:38<ceon>sorry thats true
18:38<ceon>most help I always get in debian or ubuntu
18:38<ceon>any how
18:38<ceon> Thanks for answer
18:39<ceon>But what I never will understand is
18:39<ceon>why u just dont answer people what they ask for?
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18:40<ceon>I m sure Debain derviates got almost the same files in "stomach" Bauch :-)
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18:40<ceon>would be faster as tell people - Why u dont ask u bal bla bla
18:40<ceon>bal
18:40<ceon>sorry
18:40<ceon>I feel like an idiot in here
18:41<ceon>I do not care - cause I know what I m able too
18:41<ceon>but ist uncool!
18:41<ceon>Bis denne
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18:43<awal1>ceon, what is your gnu/linux oS?
18:43<awal1>OS
18:43<ceon>Debian 8
18:43<ceon>with some updates
18:43<retrospectacus>since you are not running debian, nobody will possibly know the answer to your question. The answer is, "you fucked up" or "your distro fucked up"
18:44<ceon>debian 8
18:44<awal1>if debian, so just ask, ceon
18:44<retrospectacus>obv. history works for us using debian
18:44<awal1>ceon, what lsb_release -a says?
18:44<ceon>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt5Vv97v5g8
18:45<ceon>no
18:45<ceon>Okay thanks
18:45<ceon>where to I have give rights to besides . bashrc or .bashrc_home
18:45<ceon>so standard-user can a little use history in Gnome shell?
18:45<ceon>awall?
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18:46<ceon>whats the command so I can test please
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18:47<ceon>$ lsb_relase -a
18:47<ceon>sh: 2: lsb_relase: not found
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18:48<ceon>I m sure it is to fix
18:49<ceon>I love this OS
18:49<ceon>but I do not wanna wprk as root, cause Im a newbie in Linux
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18:53<awal1>parrot and kali are debian based and almost all of there pkgs are available in debian; you can just use debian and use the security pkgs you need
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19:53<r4f_debian>Hi all
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20:06<ceon>hi
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20:08<ach>hi
20:08<ach>i have some question
20:08<ach>i have just in nautilus access to my cdrom drive if i am root?
20:10<jmcnaught>ach: you shouldn't need to be root to access cdrom drive in nautilus. You also should not run nautilus as root.
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20:10<jmcnaught>ach: don't run GNOME or desktop environments, X11 as root at all
20:10<ach>probably my fail to say that
20:11<ach>but i tried in bash gnome terminal su and run nautilus it worked.
20:11<ach>and it worked that their is my cdrom drive
20:12<ach>to not say that
20:12<ach>not run nautilus as root!!
20:12<ach>so i want run nautilus as user but with cdrom?
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20:13<ach>i thought their were maybe a step i do not know much about nautilus and it's hardware?
20:13<jmcnaught>ach: it should just work. is there an entry for the CDROM in the panel on the left in nautilus?
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20:15<ach>no just as root
20:15<ach>but i know in even your thought about my question.
20:17<ach>oh yes but probably i know now how this came maybe not for sure i just have this one laptop i can not try out.
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20:18<ceon>hmm nautilus got a webinterface?
20:18<ceon>why would I need a CD Rom?
20:18<ceon>https:// blabla
20:19<jmcnaught>ach: is your user a member of the cdrom group? check with the 'groups' command
20:19<ceon>if u just got one laptop what for u need nautilusß
20:19<ceon>?
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20:20<jmcnaught>ceon: people can use what ever file manager they want. do you have a Debian question?
20:20<ceon>Isnt Nautilus a program to help admins save the explored network?
20:20<ceon>and get some diagram over a hmm larger Network as one laptop?
20:21<ceon>no some debian answers?
20:21<ceon>Ot logic answers?
20:21<ceon>or thougts?
20:21<ceon>Aint bother me please
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20:22<ceon>and I care a shit if u kick me or whatever
20:22<ceon>:-)
20:22<ceon>I hate it make 1000 ways with cross arround church
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20:23<jmcnaught>ceon: Nautilus is the file manager for GNOME. Sort of like Windows Explorer I guess. But please, let's stay on the topic of Debian support
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20:24<ceon>just help the peopel dude!
20:24<ceon>You are not the owner of Dabian
20:24<ceon>aye?
20:24<ceon>Debian
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20:26<ach>jmcnaught yes the user in the group
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20:29<jmcnaught>ach: you could try using udisksctl as user to mount it
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20:31<jmcnaught>ach: like "udisksctl mount --block-device <TAB>" (tabbing will show you block devices, you could just type it out if you know which one your cdrom is)
20:31<ach>jmcnaught i will first try insert a cdrom and try as root nautilus
20:31<ach>or is it so far on on my system?
20:32<ach>do not know what was the fail with the normal mount command
20:32<jmcnaught>ach: don't use root.. really, don't use root to run nautilus. If you had to do that all the time, it would be broken.
20:32<ach>but i just had to come to the point were i needed and it will not do it's job.
20:33<ach>yes but it is a backup of my own very well said my fear too.
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21:00<brian>hola
21:01<brian>tenes rason
21:02<jmcnaught>!es
21:02<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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21:10<r4f_debian>Bye all !
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21:35<ferret_guy>So I have a pc with a program that streams udp packets to a specified ip address/port and I want to be able to receive those on a computer connected via ssh, I tries remote port forwarding and it works for things like wget but not this streaming, are there any other solutions I can use?
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21:39<jmcnaught>ferret_guy: ssh only forwards TCP as far as i know. You could use openvpn for this.
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21:40<ferret_guy>jmcnaught: :/ o well I have openvpn set up but I was hoping to find an alternative
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22:54<glorias>If I read the sources original which Ian Murdock wrote
22:54<glorias>he made commenst?
22:54<glorias>so kick me but give me the information please
22:55<glorias>ian did much stuff people do if thy get to fast rich and money
22:55<glorias>but
22:55<glorias>he dis nothing mainly wrong!
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22:55<glorias>and all we fuckers on debian woulndt chat
22:56<glorias>If Ian Murdock wanst had been a little Genius
22:56<glorias>!
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22:57<glorias>I very rarly use this nam
22:57<glorias>I fuckers I ant eran it ave
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23:43<r2d2>someone knows how to make the insert of a red black tree?
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