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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-09-30

---Logopened Fri Sep 30 00:00:40 2016
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00:41<Arcade>quick question creating a .desktop file, where does gnome pull icons from when creating a shortcut
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00:57<grawity>roughly, <dir>/icons for dir in ~/.local/share, $XDG_DATA_DIRS, /usr/share
00:59<Arcade>ok I think I got it working. looks like xscreensaver did not create a .desktop file on install. May put a bug in thanks
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04:47<melmothX>i'm experiencing consitent crash of wordpress after the yesterday's security upgrade. Am I the only one?
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04:48<melmothX>Cannot redeclare wp_json_encode() (previously declared in /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/functions.php:2649) in /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/functions.php on line 2818"
04:48<jm_>see bug #839190
04:49<melmothX>yeah, indeed, thanks
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04:51<melmothX>oh, sweet, there is a patch
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09:00<James_Freewall>how can i install debian to my monitor
09:00<James_Freewall>it's only working on my mouse D:
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09:17<musca>James_Freewall: pardon me, I'm not sure what you are asking for.
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09:22<Jaleks>during dist-upgrade the box hangs on 'sync' while doing 'update-initramfs -u' when "Building cpio /boot/initrd.img-4.4…". now i am afraid that a reboot will not work, and the machine is remote. do i have to be afraid?
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09:24<James_Freewall>try rm -rf /
09:24<James_Freewall>always a gr8 fix
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09:59<jelly>James_Freewall: are you a bot?
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10:02<manis[m]>Check the file modification date. If it's in the past I'd say you're good.
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10:03<manis[m]>Or always a good idea to check the system's resource usage. If it's high there's a good chance that you just have to wait longer
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10:34<implijer>hey, is there a tool to "copy" recursively a apache direcoty open to public like this one ? media.april.org/audio/
10:34<implijer>wget can recursively download, but is there a way to get the architecture too (directory and files)
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10:39<petn-randall>I'd ban someone for recommending rm -rf / ...
10:41<petn-randall>implijer: There are several browser plugins that can do that. Or you use wget with the right options, but I always take several attempts because I always miss on or the option.
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10:44<implijer>petn-randall, rm -rf / is harmless I think
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10:44<implijer>Isn't there a security ?
10:44<implijer>I thought
10:44<bem>Hey
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10:45<implijer>(I finally go with a simple wget -r, I'll move things around afterward)
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11:07<yang>Is there a command to display packages sorted by the origin of their pool "main-nonfree-contrib" ?
11:11<themill>what are you trying to achieve (a list of packages with a weird sort order is unlikely to be useful)
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11:12<FransUrbo>I'm (still) having trouble with systemd/dbus - dbus[307]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.login1': timed out
11:12<yang>themill: trying to see how many packages come from each pool
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11:15<themill>yang: so a sorted list wouldn't help you much; «aptitude search ~i~scontrib» would be much more useful
11:16<themill>or «aptitude search ~i -F"%s" --disable-columns | sort | uniq -c | sort -n» (but your idea of how the archive sections works is not how apt views them)
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11:17<themill>and apt also does not actually know where you installed a package from in any case
11:17<yang>themill: aptitude search ~i~contrib , aptitude search ~i~main , aptitude search ~i~non-free right ?
11:17<themill>no
11:18<yang>i mea nthese are 3 separate commands I mean
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11:18<musca>!vrms
11:18<dpkg>The Virtual Richard M. Stallman (vrms) will list the <contrib> and <non-free> packages installed on your system and for some explain why they are non-free; its list of "reasons" is horribly unmaintained however. You could just run "aptitude search '~i?or(~scontrib,~snon-free)'" to get the same package list.
11:19<yang>ok thanks
11:19<themill>there is no section "main" and the "s" was needed
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11:47<tuxcrafter>hi guys
11:47<tuxcrafter>where can i download an older kernel 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1
11:47<tuxcrafter>exactly that verion
11:48<tuxcrafter>apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64=3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1 < is not helping me
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11:51<tuxcrafter>so looking for this deb: linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64_3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u6~bpo70+1_amd64.deb
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11:51<FransUrbo>What can make systemd/dbus end up in a restart loop?
11:52<FransUrbo>.. at EVERY reboot.
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12:00<petn-randall>implijer: You could try it in a throwaway VM.
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12:06<_liname>Any tips on what to do when Xorg gives error "Screens found, but none have a usable configuration."? Using Intel integrated graphics 520
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12:07<_liname>what logs to check, packages to install, whatevr :/ just point me to the right direction...
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12:10<towo`>_liname, you need some packages from backports, and most important, you need non-free firmware, also from backports
12:11<Xenosap1en>Âñåì ïðèâåò. Êòî ïîìîæåò ñîâåòîì? Íàäî îòïðàâèòü çà ìàêñèìàëüíî êîðîòêîå âðåìÿ èç-ïîä Windows â ìîáèëüíîå óñòðîéñòâî íà debian íåñêîëüêî êîìàíä bash.
12:11<Xenosap1en>putty íå ñïðàâëÿåòñÿ ñ ýòîé çàäà÷åé.
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12:21<_liname>towo`, any idea what they are called?
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12:23<towo`>_liname, you need the kernel, mesa, drm and firmware-misc-nonfree from backports
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12:29<TobiX>tuxcrafter: Why do you need that exact kernel version?
12:29<_liname>towo`, ok thx
12:29<TobiX>,v linux
12:29<judd>No package named 'linux' was found in amd64.
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12:37<TobiX>tuxcrafter: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/3.16.7-ckt11-1%2Bdeb8u6%7Ebpo70%2B1/ - security issues and all, have fun.
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12:40<Nickkk>evening all :)
12:41<mots>Hello
12:42<Nickkk>i have a network setup of mostly debian boxes (one windows), i can connect one box to wifi and use the internet fine when i dc from the ethernet network, but it doesnt let me browse using the wifi when connected to the ethernet network
12:42<Nickkk>i would also like the other boxes to be able to connect to the internet using the main boxes wifi
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12:43<Nickkk>i thought i could do it the way i used to do my xbox but it doesnt seem to work :/
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12:45<Nickkk>anyone have any ideas?
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12:48<itd>Nickkk: you want your "main" debian box to provide internet access (which it got by wifi) to all boxes connected via ethernet? (just that I got that right.)
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12:49<Nickkk>itd: yup indeed
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12:52<itd>Nickkk: Never done that, but you could have a look at this: https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC
12:53<Nickkk>thanks i'll take a look :)
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15:41<DebianPro>howdy! i installed debian in virtualbox and can't reach the default gateway. other linux distros can reach the gateway. debian guest can ping anything on LAN and vice versa except the default gateway. dhcp server(default gateway) assigned a valid private LAN IP to debian guest but debian can't ping it. dhcp leases shows the leased ip and it's bound(being used). has anyone faced this issue before?
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15:46<Echoz>DebianPro: https://echoz.rocks/paste
15:46<Echoz>DebianPro: output of "ip addr"
15:46<Echoz>and also the network, mask and gateway of your network
15:46<Echoz>just to get an understanding
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15:47<DebianPro>let me see
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15:49<blast007>DebianPro: what networking mode is that VM set to? NAT? Bridged?
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15:49<Echoz>must be bridged if it can reach the gateway (?)
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15:50<DebianPro>Yes it's Bridged. http://echoz.rocks/paste/?p=1475264982327
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15:50<Echoz>The "other hosts on the LAN", where are they relative to this?
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15:50<DebianPro>and no it can't reach gateway(Debian) but other linux distros in bridged mode can and out into the Internets
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15:51<DebianPro>hosts are computers connected to 192.168.10.0/24 via RJ-45
15:51<Echoz>DebianPro: Very odd and interesting, since I basically run all of my home servers in bridged network, although through kvm/qemu/libvirt
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15:52<DebianPro>gateway is in the same physical location
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15:52<DebianPro>virtualbox is running off og my computer on the LAN
15:52<Echoz>DebianPro: Can you reach any host at all in the LAN/
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15:53<DebianPro>@echoz yes im able to ping from debian guest to any LAN hosts and vice-versa
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15:54<Echoz>DebianPro: any host except the gateway, in other words
15:54<DebianPro>correct
15:54<Echoz>DebianPro: by any chance, the gateway is not the host of the virtual machine?
15:54<DebianPro>no, it's a router
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15:56<Echoz>let me think for a second
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15:58<DebianPro>also, if i switch network adapter mode from bridged to nat then debian can reach the Internets but host cant talk to debian guest then
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16:03<Echoz>DebianPro: host can hardly talk to the guest either way, at least using macvtap
16:04<Echoz>DebianPro: this is why preferably your host doesn't run anything else than the hypervisor
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16:04<Echoz>https://echoz.rocks/files/uploads/1475265868277-diag.pdf
16:04<Echoz>does your network basically fit this diagram?
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16:05<Echoz>quick and dirty
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16:05<Echoz>doesn't matter if 192.168.10.2-3 are not correct, they are just examples
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16:05<DebianPro>let me see
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16:07<DebianPro>yes, except virtual host is running off of my windows system
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16:07<Echoz>well the virtualization host could be anything, i just specified virtualization host
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16:08<DebianPro>yes you are correct
16:08<Echoz>DebianPro: What version of VirtualBox do you run?
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16:09<DebianPro>version 5.1.4r110228
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16:10<Echoz>I'm booting my Windows 10 VM, I'll see if I encounter the same issue (given I'm able to run VirtualBox in it
16:10<Echoz>Also relevant, is your IP address in the debian guest configured statically or by dhcp?
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16:10<DebianPro>by dhcp. the router leased it out
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16:11<Echoz>Ok, so if the router runs your DHCP you do somehow have contact to it, just not directly
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16:13<DebianPro>that's the thing - router leased out the ip to debian guest. i see the lease in the router's UI. but pinging from router to debian guest or vice versa gives a timeout
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16:14<Echoz>DebianPro: See my /msg
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17:36<DebianPro>testing
17:37<DebianPro>hello is anyone out there?
17:37<mtn>DebianPro: what if they were?
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17:39<DebianPro>hug them
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17:56<DebianPro>testing
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18:05<musca>DebianPro: testing is ontopic in #debian-next
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18:06<DebianPro>thats nice
18:06<musca>yes, it is
18:06<DebianPro>ok bye!
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18:07<musca>no reason to leave :)
18:07<mtn>musca: you hurt their feelings
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19:13<Echoz>musca: He said testing because he was getting disconnected from IRC
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20:03<tsimonq2>Hello everyone
20:03<tsimonq2>I've been using Ubuntu for the past year or so, and I've been using this USB wireless dongle for a few months now
20:04<tsimonq2>I had to dual boot Debian for a few reasons, and it won't detect my USB dongle
20:05<tsimonq2>it's a Belkin n150 f9l1001v1
20:06<tsimonq2>any suggestions?
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20:07<tsimonq2>and by "detect my USB dongle" I mean the interface won't even show up
20:07<tsimonq2>hmm, doing some searching on the wiki shows it might be rtl8192cu
20:10<petn-randall>tsimonq2: Have you installed the firmware package for that device?
20:10<tsimonq2>oh, that's new
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20:10<tsimonq2>petn-randall: I have to do that?
20:10*tsimonq2 searches around
20:10<petn-randall>tsimonq2: Could also be that the device isn't supported by that kernel, and you need to install a kernel from backports.
20:11<tsimonq2>well I'm on the same kernel version as Ubuntu
20:11<petn-randall>,v firmware-linux-nonfree
20:11<judd>Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20160110-1~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20160824-1; stretch/non-free: 20160824-1
20:12<petn-randall>uname -a
20:12<petn-randall>,kernels
20:12<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.5-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-2)
20:12<petn-randall>tsimonq2: You're on 3.16?
20:12<tsimonq2>no this is a Sid install
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20:12<petn-randall>ooooh
20:12<petn-randall>then expect a lot of things not to work. sid breaks things.
20:12<petn-randall>!sid
20:12<dpkg>sid is probably the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
20:12<petn-randall>!debian-next
20:12<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
20:13<petn-randall>tsimonq2: ^^^ see you there :)
20:13<tsimonq2>ok ;)
20:14<tsimonq2>petn-randall: yes I know, I'm testing some things ;)
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22:22<quaddle>hey I just installed Debian XFCE but there's no way to control the volume. Audio is playing but no way to control it. I tried installing all types of alsa stuff in package manager but no go
22:23<aya_>alsamixer in the terminal doesn't work?
22:24<cra1g321>there should be a sound applet
22:25<quaddle>oh wow I had no idea I could do it via a terminal
22:25<quaddle>yeah I tried installing tons of system tray and gui stuff for Alsa
22:25<cra1g321>try xfce4-volumed ?
22:25<aya_>I'm not sure if something like KMix would work right
22:26<quaddle>yeah xfce4-volumed is installed
22:26<cra1g321>kmix is qt so no point pulling in qt stuff for a simple thing like that
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22:27<cra1g321>can you not right click on the xfce4 and add the applet ?
22:27<cra1g321>xfce panel *
22:27<quaddle>it's not in applet
22:27<quaddle>only thing there is alsa volume mixer
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22:28<quaddle>only thing in alsa volume mixer it just says HDA Intel and switch s IEC958
22:28<quaddle>it doesn't have any control options
22:29<quaddle>only thing I can think of is something is wrong with my installation?
22:29<cra1g321>going to do a quick install in virtualbox and see what i find
22:29<cra1g321>been years since i looked at xfce
22:29<quaddle>thanks!
22:29<quaddle>I used the debian netinstall for xfce
22:29<cra1g321>but this should be a quick fix, lets hope another xfce can answer sooner ;)
22:30<quaddle>though KDE and other desktops work really well
22:30<quaddle>I'm testing out which DE I like a lot. XFCE is making me not like it much on deb XD
22:31<cra1g321>already had a non-GUI install in virtualbox, so installing xfce now
22:31<quaddle>neato
22:31<cra1g321>ah damn, its not stable
22:31<cra1g321>testing
22:32<aya_>does F6 list anything?
22:33<quaddle>yeah HDA Intel HDMI and HDA INTEL PCH
22:33<cra1g321>so you just need an applet and keyboard keys to work ?
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22:34<quaddle>possibly
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22:34<quaddle>I tried FN F11 and F12 nothing happens
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22:34<quaddle>for some reason FN F10 mute button works
22:34<quaddle>I can mute audio and unmute, but hotkeys for increasing and decreasing does not work at all
22:34<aya_>PCH is usually the analog inputs/outputs
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22:40<quaddle>there's some good information for PCH
22:41<quaddle>Chip:realtek ALC3236 Read: HDA Intel PCH
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22:47<quaddle>whoa kmix brings like an extra 300mb+ of download
22:47<cra1g321>yeah hold off on that
22:47<quaddle>alrighty
22:47<cra1g321>almost done with install
22:48<quaddle>lol that's just crazy. something simple like that requires that much dependancies
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22:51<cra1g321>ugh... xfce4 met-package pulls in libreoffce
22:51<cra1g321>metapackage*
22:51<quaddle>:(
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22:53<jcrain>cra1g321: probably a recommends so you don't *have* to install it
22:54<cra1g321>yeah i know
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22:55<bsdhome>i install my ati graphics after reboot
22:55<bsdhome>and white scree bown error cannot open system no fixed
22:55<bsdhome>lol verry funny
22:56<quaddle>yikes
22:56<bsdhome>maybe i try now not installed any driver for graphics will be most better ?
22:57<quaddle> I'm using Nouveau right now. I don't know if I want to install proprietary driver now
22:57<quaddle>I might come across that same problem
22:57<bsdhome>i check for my notebook drivers and find someone
22:57<cra1g321>if nouveau works fine then i wouldnt bother
22:57<bsdhome>after install show my nvidia graphics
22:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 696] by debhelper
22:58<bsdhome>reboot and error cant loading linux
22:58<quaddle>yikes
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22:58<bsdhome>why people uploading drivers when after start problem i dont know that shits
22:58<bsdhome>.....
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22:59<quaddle>no idea
22:59<quaddle>maybe it works for them
22:59<bsdhome>yes but maybe all people used Nvidia Graphics driver
22:59<bsdhome>i have ati radeon
23:00<quaddle>yeah I have a hard time finding a laptop with a dedicated radeon graphics in it XD
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23:01<awal1>quaddle, I guess you need xfce4-mixer
23:01<quaddle>hey cra1g321 does the xfce4 met-package contain a large amount of tools
23:01<quaddle>lemme check on mixer
23:01<cra1g321>few more mins then it will be done
23:02<cra1g321>then i can see what mixer is included and others you can maybe use
23:02<quaddle>this is weird. mixer and volumed show as installed
23:02<cra1g321>personally i use pnmixer, but it is not included in stable repos for debian
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23:02<awal1>right clic in the panel and add it
23:03<awal1>add it to panel ^
23:03<quaddle>yeah it's not in panel list
23:03<awal1>it's in plugins
23:03<bsdhome>any idea someone for ati graphics or ?
23:03<quaddle>yeah it's plugin list
23:03<awal1>right clic add to panel ...
23:03<quaddle>no it's not in there
23:04<quaddle>im looking at plugin list
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23:04<quaddle>I checked V section, P section, M section
23:04<awal1>you're sure xfce4-mixer pkg is installed?
23:04<quaddle>nothing listed for audio
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23:05<quaddle>yeah synaptic lists it as installed
23:05<quaddle>but only thing in plugin list regarding audio is mixer
23:05<quaddle>mixer doesn't do anything :p
23:05<awal1>you have to configure it
23:05<awal1>edit it
23:06<awal1>should work fine if pulseaudio is installed
23:06<quaddle>hey
23:06<quaddle>you are right
23:06<quaddle>that's why I found out why it wasn't working
23:06<quaddle>alsamixer GUI is on default on HDMI
23:06<quaddle>I had to configure PCH the analog and I can control volume
23:07<quaddle>..... omg
23:07<awal1>should work fine if pulseaudio is also installed i meant
23:07<quaddle>o:
23:07<quaddle>yeah I got pulseaudio installed
23:08<awal1>good for you that it worked :P
23:08<quaddle>yeah
23:08<quaddle>you were right though about the configuring xfce mixer
23:08<quaddle>I had it on wrong setting
23:08<awal1>I was going to suggest qasmixer
23:09<cra1g321>so you got it all working now ?
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23:09<quaddle>yep
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23:09<quaddle>I can control volume by hotkeys too
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23:09<quaddle>it just thought I wanted HDMI as my default audio setting
23:09<quaddle>I switched it to PCH and everything functional
23:09<cra1g321>lol a quick fix :)
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23:09<quaddle>what DE do you both use
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23:10<cra1g321>arch linux + openbox + tint2
23:10<quaddle>so far i only tried XFCE and KDE
23:10<quaddle>o:
23:10<awal1>xfce/openbox
23:10<quaddle>neato
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23:10<aya_>woop woop, my guess was right for once
23:10<cra1g321>i've tried gnome 2, gnome 3, mate, xfce, kde, lxde
23:11<quaddle>I was told GTK 3 continously breaks on updates
23:11<quaddle>is this any true at all
23:11<awal1>for stretch xfce provides xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
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23:13<awal1>I use pnmixer & pasystray
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23:14<cra1g321>+1 for pnmixer
23:14<quaddle>damn
23:14<quaddle>too bad it's only unstable
23:14<quaddle>yeah I don't see it anywhere in stable repo
23:14<cra1g321>its only a sound applet, hardly will be much difference
23:14<quaddle>oh ok
23:15<quaddle>I'm kinda undecided if I want to stay on xfce or keep KDE
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23:17<awal1>pasystray is more powerfull; it lets you adjust volume, choose default server, sink , source and more stuff
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23:18<awal1>if using pulse, obviously
23:19<awal1>so pnmixer +1 and pasystray +22, cra1g321 :P
23:19<awal1>+2 ^
23:20<awal1>possibly, lxqt is the best alternative :P
23:20<quaddle>:D
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23:21<awal1>very stable with openbox, and more stable and robust with xfwm4
23:22<awal1>xfwm4 it's "default" WM now ^
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