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---Logopened Sat Oct 22 00:00:02 2016
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00:01<_0>and what with my problem?
00:01<_0>hello,btw!
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00:02<AbO>hi
00:02<AbO>what is your pr
00:02<_0>http://images.vfl.ru/ii/1477106232/542e56d9/14616203.png
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00:03<AbO>sheet hahaha
00:03<themill>That's an image not a problem.
00:03<_0>well image showing problem
00:04<_0>the image,btw,if you are so pedantic)
00:06<themill>it looks like a screenshot of gparted....
00:06<themill>It'd be easier if we didn't have to both guess the question and the answer
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00:07<_0>yeah, usb pen not formatted to any type partition on both 32-bits debian and 64-bits debian systems
00:09<_0>libgparted bug it says , so question do i have to install windows to correct usb pen?
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00:09<themill>simple usb pen drives do not normally have a partition table on them
00:10<themill>that said, an I/O error on a cheap usb device normally means it's dead
00:12<_0>thanks, i love to talk with polite strangers,goodbye!
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00:13<AbO>buy now one
00:13<AbO>true talk
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00:14<AbO>i have a free dump anyone interesting!!
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02:05<hamidi>hi all
02:05<AlexLikeRock>hi
02:05<hamidi>i need to know how can i install wallch on jessie
02:05<AlexLikeRock>hamidi,
02:06<hamidi>sudo apt-get install wallch is not working
02:06<hamidi>i tried to install it from source, but couldn't succeed
02:06<hamidi>it needs qmake
02:06<hamidi>i installed qmake, but for running it requires unity or something:
02:07<hamidi>Project ERROR: Package unity not found
02:07<AlexLikeRock>not exist at debian
02:07<hamidi>(when running qmake wallch.pro)
02:07<AlexLikeRock> only at ubuntu
02:07<AlexLikeRock>i use VARIETY
02:07<AlexLikeRock>https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=variety
02:08<hamidi>oh my! u mean i was wasting my time?! :(
02:08<AlexLikeRock>works , fine
02:08<AlexLikeRock>a little bit :-)
02:08<hamidi>is variety the best alternative?
02:08<AlexLikeRock>i dont now ,
02:08<AlexLikeRock> try your selfe ;-)
02:09<AlexLikeRock>try yourself
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02:09<hamidi>ok, thx
02:10<hamidi>i'm still a newbie in debian. should i use 'sudo apt-get install variety'?
02:11<AlexLikeRock>https://vimeo.com/50978057
02:11<AlexLikeRock>no problem dude ;-)
02:12<AlexLikeRock>official webpage http://peterlevi.com/variety/how-to-install/
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02:13<AlexLikeRock># apt-get install variety
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02:15<hamidi>doesn't work
02:15<hamidi>E: Unable to locate package variety
02:15<AlexLikeRock>what debian you have ?
02:15<hamidi>apparently a repo should be added
02:15<AlexLikeRock>jessie ?
02:15<hamidi>jessie
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02:16<AlexLikeRock>because are avalible to stretch (testing)
02:16<hamidi>oh :(
02:16<hamidi>so what i do?
02:16<AlexLikeRock>wait...
02:17<jmcnaught>AlexLikeRock: this is the stable support channel in case you were not aware.
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02:19<jmcnaught>hamidi: some desktop environments have a desktop changing feature built-in. gnome has some mechanism for using a gallery as the background (you'll need to look it up). I believe KDE has a similar feature that is probably more configurable.
02:20<AlexLikeRock>try this https://launchpad.net/~peterlevi/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/variety_0.6.2-0~573~201610080911~ubuntu14.04.1_all.deb
02:20<jmcnaught>hamidi: no don't listen to AlexLikeRock
02:20<jmcnaught>,i desktopnova
02:20<judd>Package desktopnova (misc, optional) in jessie/amd64: utility that changes the wallpaper automatically. Version: 0.8.1-1; Size: 84.6k; Installed: 240k; Homepage: http://launchpad.net/desktopnova; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/desktopnova
02:21<AlexLikeRock>some , wallpaper changer , are soooo borin
02:21<jmcnaught>AlexLikeRock: please don't encourage people to install Ubuntu and Testing packages on Debian stable.
02:22<AlexLikeRock>mmmmm
02:22<AlexLikeRock>ok
02:22<AlexLikeRock>sorryy
02:22<hamidi>alex tries to give his best. i thank him & u
02:22<hamidi>i use mate
02:23<hamidi>i know that gnome and some other DE's may change, but the pix r not online
02:23<jmcnaught>try desktopnova or search apt for alternatives
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02:25<hamidi>i install both variety and desktopnova and see which one is better
02:25<hamidi>what's ur opinion about desktopnova alex?
02:27<hamidi>seems not to be online, right?
02:27<AlexLikeRock>i not used
02:27<jmcnaught>hamidi: the point of not installing variety is that packages from other distros can mess up your Debian system.
02:28<AlexLikeRock>i use mate too
02:28<jmcnaught>i don't really care which desktop background switcher you use, but you'll have na easier time if you use something in Debian
02:28<AlexLikeRock>i hate Gnome3 , its so heavy
02:29<GLolol>would there be interest in backporting variety to jessie? (i'm the maintainer in stretch/sid)
02:29<AlexLikeRock>i not used desktopnova
02:29<hamidi>alex: yeah, i agree
02:29<AlexLikeRock>GLolol, , they hamidi are novice
02:30<AlexLikeRock>tehy not now , who to add BACKPORT
02:30<hamidi>jmcnaught: hmm, didn't figure out what u really meant
02:30<GLolol>ie making it installable in jessie without a third-party (potentially breaking) repo
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02:33<hamidi>i installed variety by my own risk though
02:33<hamidi>seems great
02:33<AlexLikeRock>(Y)
02:33<GLolol>:]
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02:34<hamidi>yeah, it's the same as i need. thx alex
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02:34<AlexLikeRock>no problem (y)
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02:35<hamidi>how to tell it never to use existing picture in my hdd?
02:36<hamidi>(i mean what i have downloaded in my home/somewhere/... ?
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02:40<AlexLikeRock>in "ADD" http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kPPjNthcuSs/UkacU1zn2zI/AAAAAAAAEwM/X8Chttjia68/s1000/variety-4.jpg
02:41<AlexLikeRock>they say :
02:42<AlexLikeRock> /usr/share/backgrounds
02:42<AlexLikeRock>http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JblJPLa-MoQ/UkaYW_3OZyI/AAAAAAAAEvs/EIRuWeAyEqY/s1000/variety-1.jpg
02:43<hamidi>how can i prevent downloading not suitable backgrounds?
02:44<AlexLikeRock>all, pics , are cools,
02:45<AlexLikeRock>they not have wrong or obscenes
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02:47<AlexLikeRock>you can unmark what ever you don like of the sources, flirk, abcde.com
02:47<AlexLikeRock>etc
02:48<hamidi>i found 'safe mode'. it's very nice
02:48<AlexLikeRock>yeah
02:49<hamidi>liiiiike
02:49<hamidi>...
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03:35<Nickkk>[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~im baffled...
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03:36<Nickkk>got a mate telling me dont worry about the kernel update it's not needed if i keep my system up2date and no unsecure remote apps
03:37*Nickkk sighs
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05:28<PaulePanter>Who is administering http://planet.debian.net?
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05:58<PaulePanter>Ah, I found the contact on the planet page.
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06:05<_0>hi,themill!
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06:06<_0>may be you are right,sorry for my sarcazm, it's about my usb pen problem!
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06:08<_0>i found host with legal windows 10, try to recover usb flash drive and online recovery tool could not connect to server, so may be it's dead(
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06:09<_0>i will try to connect again several times, but not sure it will work(
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06:13<_0>but anyway without windows there was no hope,because there is no recovery tool under debian(
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06:14<desert>how do i setup a one time delayed shutdown and poweroff from the terminal? i know its a simple command, but i can't recall it at the moment
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06:20<Infiltrator>desert: man shutdown
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06:20<desert>Infiltrator, thanks
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07:11<felixs_>hi. does anybody have a working acpi+lid.sh+xtrlock configuration on testing?
07:11<felixs_>tried with and without systemd, no luck
07:11<Infiltrator>!testing
07:11<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical!
07:12<Infiltrator>felixs_: You will have more luck there.
07:13<felixs_>Infiltrator: #debian-next? thank you!
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07:27<kernelcorn>hi guys. I recently set up an Unbound instance for DNS resolving/caching, but I noticed that most of the resolves are only going to one thread. Any suggestion how I can spread out the load?
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08:25<kernelcorn>another issue: I'm unable to connect to my 2.4 or 5.0 GHz WiFi router under Debian. I see the router in the list and it prompts me for a password, but when it tries to connect, NetworkManager will say that the connection has been disconnected. I checked the syslog and I see the same thing. Any ideas why this occurs? Other devices are connected just fine.
08:26<kernelcorn>It's worth noting that I am using a wifi dongle, but I have the necessary firmware installed. I suspect it's a kernel issue because it was working until I pulled the latest updates and restarted.
08:26<kernelcorn>should I just wait for the next kernel release and see if it fixes my issue?
08:27<Infiltrator>kernelcorn: Which kernel do you have? You could try backports.
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08:28<kernelcorn>4.7.0-1-amd64
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08:28<kernelcorn>I'm pulling from testing, main, contrib, and non-free
08:29<kernelcorn>(yes, I'm pulling from non-free since this is a gaming machine)
08:29<cruncher>kernelcorn, you cant just connect to this specific wifi network? or to any wifi networks?
08:29<kernelcorn>I can't connect to anyone that I've tried
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08:29<cruncher>so you tried multiple ssids
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08:30<kernelcorn>I have set my router to broadcast 2.4 and 5.0 GHz networks, which have different SSIDs
08:30<cruncher>yes, but still the same router, my question is if you tried to connect to another router?
08:30<kernelcorn>I can't connect to either, but the password is correct
08:30<kernelcorn>let me see if I can spin one up on another machine using NetworkManager
08:31<Infiltrator>Or try your phone, if you have a relatively modern one?
08:31<cruncher>kernelcorn, you can even try to connect to your phone (using it as a hotspot)
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08:31<Infiltrator>Also, you might have more luck in #debian-next. Someone else might have had the same problem as you.
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08:32<kernelcorn>nope, can't connect
08:33<kernelcorn>same thing. Prompts for password, tries to connect, then fails
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08:34<kernelcorn>kernel says that it authenticated, then "deauth request to the driver failed". Then it disconnects with reason=CONN_FAILED
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08:39<vortek>whats some debian games with good graphics, like hi graphics card and sytem requirment?
08:40<kernelcorn>CS:GO
08:40<kernelcorn>any of the significant games on Steam, really
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08:40<vortek>cool
08:41<Infiltrator>Why are so many Debian packages named with a too-deep version? Like linux-image-4.7.0-1-686, when it has in it, a 4.7.8 version? Why not call the package l-i-4.7-686?
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08:48<bremner>Infiltrator: kernel packages are special, they have an api level in the name
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08:49<Infiltrator>bremner: Oh, that is the API version?
08:50<bremner>yes
08:50<bremner>or maybe ABI, for the fussy
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08:51<Infiltrator>Ah, yes, good point.
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08:54<themill>Removing the additional unused bit of x.y.z is likely to break lots of tools too. The assumption that there are 3 parts to the ABI version is going to be embedded in all sorts of places
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09:00<Echoz>I've got about 30000+ songs I would like to organize in in directories such as /artist/album/1. song, any recommendations for a program that could do this?
09:00<Echoz>31492 to be more accurate
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09:12<vortek>try loading synaptic and searching for mp3 organize
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09:12<vortek>i know that will show you all the programs that organize
09:14<vortek>or music organize
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09:16<kernelcorn>there are some really neat programs out there. Unfortunately I don't remember their names, but I've seen them highlighted online
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09:49<ondrej_g>hi, I'm having trouble getting pvresize to handle SI units, whet I issue pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 2T /dev/mdX it actually changes to 2t (TiB)
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09:50<Echoz>vortek: Yeah, I know how to find some, but was thinking if anybody knew of a rock solid one that could easily handle 30k files
09:50<vortek>ahh
09:51<vortek>sorry i dont know of any
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09:51<Echoz>i was moving some files with nautilus just now... and it crashed
09:52<vortek>im sure someone in hear kniows, jif not just wait longer i gues
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09:53<Dark-Jedi>vortek, You could move the files in the Terminal using the mv command.
09:53<Dark-Jedi>vortek, mv is pretty rock-solid.
09:53<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: I'm pretty sure mv doesn't read music tags
09:54<Dark-Jedi>vortek, And then once your music has been moved, you could use any music program to read/edit the tags.
09:54<Echoz>but it's not important to get it organized anyway, just this idea I had but it's probably just better to keep them in one big directory, wastes less space anyway
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09:54<vortek>ahhh , why didnt i think f that
09:55<Echoz>so my current process is just moving the files into one big directory, which most of them are anyway
09:55<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, I'm sorry. My comment was directed to you. I got nick confused.
09:56<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: Yeah, I figured :)
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09:56<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, move files in Terminal using "mv" or "rsync"
09:56<Dark-Jedi>I like rsync because it has a lot more options than mv.
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09:57<Dark-Jedi>It's also a lot more verbose than mv
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09:57<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: I know, pal, I do that most of the time, my backup scripts for isntance use rsync. but the idea now is mostly just to get the files in one directory without conflicting names and without any jpg album art and so on
09:57<Echoz>So I'll use nautilus, given it doesn't crash haha
09:58<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, "for i in *.mp3; do mv $i /to/this/directory; done"
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09:58<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, No album art, that way.
09:58<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, And you can move from directory to directory using the same command to move files out.
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09:59<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: I don't use album art. and I need to rename files like 01. Intro.mp3 haha
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09:59<Echoz>it's not a lot of files eitehr way, just my recently added things
09:59<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, One sec. I have a file renaming command that will work as well.
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10:00<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, I used to rename all my music files by their MD5sum or SHA256sum
10:01<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, The command I used for that employed sed. "sha256sum *.{mp3,jpg,png,gif,jpeg} | sed -e 's/\([^ ]*\) \(.*\(\..*\)\)$/mv -v \2 \1\3/' | sh"
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10:02<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: That's a good idea, I just hope nothing will conflict with certain albums that have some of the same songs
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10:02<Echoz>but I can easily just use interactive mv if i modify your sed a little
10:02<Dark-Jedi>sed still gives me a headache to look at. I had a lot of help writing that command. It works well though. Songs that were the same won't rename because of having identical SHA sums as other songs.
10:03<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: Hehe, yeah i've made some sed scripts myself that i probably can not read anymore
10:03<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, Go ahead and use it. :)
10:03<Echoz>Thanks pal
10:05<Dark-Jedi>Echoz, And as you can tell from that command, I used it on images as well.
10:05<Dark-Jedi>Way to many repeats in my Meme folder.
10:05<vortek>hah
10:06<Echoz>Dark-Jedi: Yeah, i'm gonna be modifying it a little to work with files in subdirectories recursively and exclude directories that may end in .mp3,.ogg,.flac, whatever
10:06<Echoz>also I should probably run it from my nfs server, not my desktop haha
10:06<Dark-Jedi>:D
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10:11<Echoz>find mus/ -type f -regex ".*\.\(mp3\|flac\|ogg\)" | wc -l
10:11<Echoz>only returns 25708, that's concerning
10:12<Echoz>adding jpeg bumps it up to 29403, what a mess
10:14<Echoz>find mus/ -type f -iregex ".*\.\(mp3\|flac\|ogg\|m4a\|wav\)" | wc -l
10:15<Echoz>literally missing one song from what quodlibet reports as being all of my songs
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10:15<Echoz>what is another common (or uncommon) audio file extension?
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10:16<Dark-Jedi>wav
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10:16<Dark-Jedi>mp4 (although that's generally video)
10:16<Dark-Jedi>wmv
10:17<Dark-Jedi>AIFF
10:17<Dark-Jedi>FLAC
10:17<Dark-Jedi>AAC
10:17<Dark-Jedi>WMA
10:18<Dark-Jedi>There's a lot.
10:18<grawity>wmv is also generally video
10:18<Dark-Jedi>I was thinking wma, and I typed a v instead.
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10:19<Echoz>I found two AIF files, but one didn't work and neither were in my player
10:19<Echoz>and i converted all of my wma files like a year back
10:19<Echoz>(also adds 0 to the file count)
10:20<Echoz>AAC also wasn't the one...
10:21<Echoz>mp4 gives me the right number! let's see if it's actually a song
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10:23<Echoz>it was the one, even though it's a video it must have gotten here by mistake
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10:30<brunoramos>virt-install with --location not working here, say disk is not bootable, I'm pretty sure this was working ok awhile back
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10:30<brunoramos>This works OK : virt-install --name debian8 --ram 512 --disk size=4 --os-variant debian8 --cdrom /tmp/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso
10:30<brunoramos>This does not work: virt-install --name debian8 --ram 512 --disk size=4 --os-variant debian8 --location http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/
10:31<brunoramos>Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong?
10:31<brunoramos>I'm running this inside a sid machine
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10:32<Echoz>bash is beautiful... find mus/ -type f -iregex ".*\.\(mp3\|flac\|ogg\|m4a\|wav\)" -exec sha256sum {} + | awk '{printf "mv " $1; $1=""; print " \""$0"\""}' | sed 's/\"\ /\"/'
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10:35<vortek>nice skillz
10:35<Echoz>now to get file extensions and to change the wrong mv to cp -iT
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10:38<jmcnaught>brunoramos: sid support is in #debian-next. once you're in there you'll probably want to tell them the error you get, "doesn't work" is too vague. Also please consider using a mirror instead of ftp.debian.org.
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10:43<Echoz>the extension is kinda tricky, if i define . as an additional delimiter it will print the full file name incorrectly... sed magic must be done
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10:55<Echoz>find mus/ -type f -iregex ".*\.\(mp3\|flac\|ogg\|m4a\|wav\)" -exec sha256sum {} + | awk -F '[\%. ]' '{printf "cp -iT sum/" $1"."$NF; $1=""; print " \""$0"\""}' | sed 's/\" /\"/;s/\(.*\) /\1./'
10:55<Echoz>this appears to work
10:56<Echoz>almost, changed cp -iT to cp -ivt
10:57<Echoz>probably need cp -ivTt
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11:01<Echoz>oh boy... cp -t DIRECTORY ... can't be a file
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11:04<kev>I all, I have a quick question. I am trying to get screen to connect to a fortinet firewall. I am using a RJ45 to rs232 plugged into a rs232 to usb cable. I see /dev/ttyUSB0 but I still can't seem to connect. I put myself in the dialout group, What else could be the problem?
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11:11<Echoz>kev: what's the error?
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11:11<Echoz>I think my one-liner should work now: find mus/ -type f -iregex ".*\.\(mp3\|flac\|ogg\|m4a\|wav\)" -exec sha256sum {} + | awk -F '[\%. ]' '{printf "sum/" $1"."$NF; $1=""; print " \""$0"\""}' | sed 's/\" /\"/;s/\(.*\) /\1./' | awk '{target=$1; $1=""; print "cp -iv "$0" "target}'
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11:16<kev>Echoz: The error is that I cant get screen to connect and I am not sure why
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11:19<Echoz>kev: Well, I meant what error message does it return?
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11:23<Echoz>I wonder if I will make it work or get too drunk to care first
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11:24<kev>It is blank, and then if I power cycle it the firewall, screen terminates when I turn the fw back on
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11:27<Echoz>kev: does nothing happen if you try to enter something?
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11:28<kev>nothing
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11:32<Echoz>find mus/ -type f -iregex ".*\.\(mp3\|flac\|ogg\|m4a\|wav\)" -exec sha256sum {} + | sed 's/\(.*\)\./\1 /' | awk '{printf "sum/" $1"."$NF; $1=""; print " \""$0"\""}' | sed 's/\" /\"/;s/\(.*\) /\1./' | awk '{target=$1; $1=""; print "cp -v "$0" "target}' | bash
11:32<Echoz>oh boy it's working
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12:16<mais>hello, is there any announcement from debian community for patching dirty cow vulnerability?
12:18<jmcnaught>mais: https://www.debian.org/security/2016/dsa-3696
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12:20<mais>jmcnaught: thanks, I ve found this but is apt-get update/apt-get upgrade enough?
12:20<Echoz>im glad none of my servers provide shell access :)
12:21<Echoz>unless you have my private key, though
12:22<jmcnaught>mais: DSAs will list the package version that fixes the issue. You can check package versions with "apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" for example. https://www.debian.org/security/ has mailing list or RSS you can subscribe to
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12:25<jmcnaught>dpkg: tell mais about tracker of doom
12:25<jmcnaught>mais: see also the message from the bot
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12:27<Eryn_1983_FL>hi peeps what package do i need for mtp support on the cli i want to mount my phone so i can move files to it on my server
12:27<Eryn_1983_FL>no gui
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12:30<mais>jmcnaught: thank you
12:30<mots>Isn'0t it easier if you access the server's filesystrem via ssh, Eryn_1983_FL?
12:30<Eryn_1983_FL>its slower
12:30<Eryn_1983_FL>i got gigs and gigs to move,
12:30<Eryn_1983_FL>i want to be able to dump my tv shows to it,
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12:32<Echoz>Eryn_1983_FL: I think I used something called jmtp when I had no GUI
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12:32<Echoz>or, I had a GUI, but just a simple WM with terminals
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12:33<Eryn_1983_FL>ok
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12:34<Echoz>Eryn_1983_FL: try installing jmtpfs
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12:35<Eryn_1983_FL>ok i did now what
12:35<Echoz>Eryn_1983_FL: I don't remember how to mount, let me install and try myself
12:36<Eryn_1983_FL>ok i am reading the man page too
12:37<Eryn_1983_FL>yay i got it Echoz
12:37<Eryn_1983_FL>just had to jmtpfs /mnt/disk/
12:37<Echoz>Eryn_1983_FL: Nice, I got it working as well with just jmtpfs <mount point?
12:37<Eryn_1983_FL>yup
12:37<Echoz>s/?/>/
12:38<Echoz>It probably requires additional options if you have more devices connected but with just one it worked
12:38<Eryn_1983_FL>yeah
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12:38<Echoz>You can unmount it with fusermount -u /mnt/disk/
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12:43<Eryn_1983_FL>its a working woot woot
12:43<Eryn_1983_FL>now it wont cut out on wifi its on usb connection haha
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12:51<xxkillerhackerxx>hey
12:51<eddie>Hello
12:51<eddie>I want to move a window to another monitor, but there is not a shortcut and I didn't find anything on the internet. I'm using Debian 3.16.36-1 and cinnamon 2.2.16
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12:51<xxkillerhackerxx>lol
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12:52<xxkillerhackerxx>so parrot is pretty awsome huh
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12:52<xxkillerhackerxx>so what this chat is usually about
12:52<eddie>Can anyone here please help me?
12:52<bremner>xxkillerhackerxx: Debian
12:53<xxkillerhackerxx>oh
12:53<xxkillerhackerxx>ok
12:53<xxkillerhackerxx>kool
12:53<bremner>eddie: 3.16.36 is not a version of Debian. Do you mean debian 8 (jessie) ?
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12:54<eddie>bremner: Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1
12:54<bremner>ok, I'm not going to argue with you.
12:54<xxkillerhackerxx>lol
12:54<eddie>well, on uname -a it says so
12:54<eddie>but yea, it is jessie
12:54<bremner>yes, that's the kernel version
12:54<piper>thats kernel version
12:54<xxkillerhackerxx>so can you tell me something about debian
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12:54<xxkillerhackerxx>so can you tell me something about debian ??
12:55<bremner>eddie: about your actual question, you can either wait, or look for a cinnamon specific help channel.
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12:56<eddie>bremner, thanks
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12:57<xxkillerhackerxx>ohhhh
12:57<xxkillerhackerxx>its just another os
12:58<xxkillerhackerxx>like windows
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13:00<Echoz>how do people even get here without knowing what debian is...
13:02<bremner>because xchat hardcodes #debian as a default channel, I think
13:02<jmcnaught>Echoz: derivative distros that don't change the default channel in irc client packages
13:02<bremner>we used to get many ubuntu users that way
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13:04<Echoz>jmcnaught: but nobody uses ubongo without knowing about debian... right?
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13:05<piper>Echoz: some even think ubuntu made debian
13:06<jmcnaught>Echoz: i believe that ubuntu users were more common here until one of the ops of the channel submitted a patch to change the default channel
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13:11<hussein>looking for :working grub2 menuentry to boot and install debian 8.3 from hdd
13:12<bremner>hussein: is there some reason you can't use a debian installer image e.g. on a usb stick?
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13:43<ansong_3>Hi, I'm on my first system with an EFI. I'm dual booting windows 10 and stretch and noticed that I have an efivarfs and /boot/efi listed in mount that are both mounted rw. Is this something I should set to ro?
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13:46<grawity>no
13:46<grawity>well, dunno about efivarfs
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13:46<grawity>I guess once you have a bootloader installed, you usually don't need to touch that anymore
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13:47<grawity>but it's root-only anyway, and as of recently it has started being more careful about what even root can change
13:47<ansong_3>When I google it, I mainly get a bunch of flamewars instead of actual recommendations.
13:48<ansong_3>What would I use it for if I left it rw?
13:48<grawity>you could e.g. use `efibootmgr` to say "I want Windows for the next reboot"
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13:49<ansong_3>lol, so not much then
13:49<grawity>well, that's quite useful
13:49<grawity>you can hit ~/bin/windows-reboot and not need to wait for the boot menu
13:49<grawity>but other than that... not much, really
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13:51<ansong_3>Balancing the risk that my motherboard manufacturer is doing everything correctly vs ease of booting windows...
13:51<ansong_3>I think I can wait a few more seconds
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13:55<ansong_3>grawity: thanks for the info
13:56<ansong_3>exit
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13:56<ansong_3>whoops, lol
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14:00<hussei>insmod part_gpt
14:00<hussei> set isofile='/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso'
14:00<hussei> set initrdfile='/hd.initrd.gz'
14:00<hussei> loopback loop (hd1,gpt4)$isofile
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14:02<jmcnaught>husein: you got kicked, but not banned. please use http://paste.debian.net/ for anything more than a couple of lines
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14:02<jmcnaught>and please only seek support in a single channel at a time, not on freenode and OFTC at the same time
14:02<husein>ok
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14:06<jmcnaught>husein: You want to use the hd-media: http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ and follow https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s04.html.en and https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd
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14:06<jmcnaught>husein: (install manual sections 4.4 and 5.1.5 like i said on freenode)
14:07<husein>i tried most of them
14:07<jmcnaught>most of what?
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14:08<husein>most of the orders you mentioned
14:09<jmcnaught>and now you're on to trying to configure grub to use a loopback mount of an ISO image?
14:09<husein>yes
14:10<jmcnaught>there are other options if you really cannot burn to CD or boot from USB: booting from network, or doing a debootstrap from another linux install on the same system
14:11<jmcnaught>but you'll need to show details about what you tried, what went wrong, what were the errors if you want to get help. use the http://paste.debian.net/ site
14:11<husein>see.i can and would boot from dvd or usb but not right now
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14:12<jmcnaught>husein: and you tried using the initrd.gz and vmlinuz under the hd-media directory?
14:13<husein>yes
14:13<jmcnaught>and then…
14:13<husein>nothing
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14:15<jmcnaught>!doesn't work
14:15<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
14:15<jmcnaught>husein: ^^ anyways good luck
14:16<husein>file system not fund
14:16<husein>of cours im usin grub4win with no verbos output
14:19<Echoz>what is grub4win
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14:24<kernelcorn>Echoz: sounds like its GRUB for Windows
14:24<Echoz>Interesting
14:25<kernelcorn>GRUB is of course the main bootloader
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14:25<Echoz>But regular GRUB can already boot NT, can't it?
14:25<kernelcorn>yes
14:26<Echoz>then i am at my original state of confusion
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14:32<kernelcorn>I have an issue with the Unbound DNS resolver. Can I ask here, or is there a more appropriate venue?
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14:32<kernelcorn>it appears to only use one thread for resolving. The rest, according to the statistics log, are barely used at all. Is there any way to flatten out the load?
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14:36<husein>i can boot ubuntu mint from hdd but debian no
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14:40<husein>http://paste.debian.net/887471
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17:10<bubba>Debian 8.5 has landed and you guys have built a beast, sweet op sys, just loaded it..looking good! :-)
17:11<bubba>can we update with apt-get update?
17:13<musca>[17 Sep 2016] Updated Debian 8: 8.6 released
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17:14<ryouma>bubba: you can update with anything, and it is recommended because you get security updates (and things like time zones) that way
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17:19<malaze_>hi guys! i'm looking for any hint on debugging a TLS handshake error related to postfix-imap. Using gnutls-cli i get 'an unexpected tls packet was received' and 'handshake has failed'. Nothing on the logs.. does anyone know how can I dig deeper into this without using a packet sniffer?? everything was fine until i updated the system a few days ago. No files where changed in /etc, so the configs are all the same.. certs have not
17:19<malaze_>been changed.. i'm stuck on this :\
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17:22<jmcnaught>malaze_: postfix-imap? do you mean postfix and your imap server (dovecot?) are both having the same problem?
17:22<jmcnaught>did you try adding -v's do gnutls-cli? also which logs are you checking? is there any indication that a connection attempt happened at all?
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17:26<malaze_>i noticed the error because horde stopped allowing logins with "authentication error". the only thing in the logs are the errros from horde (Could not open secure TLS connection to the IMAP server) and from mail.log i get "imapd: Connection, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]" with no errors at all. Receiving and sending e-mail is working through telnet. i'm using postfix+courier and virtual users via mySQL
17:27<malaze_>i tried in PHP to do a imap_open() with options imap/tls/novalidate-cert [self certified cert] and it throws the error "SSL negotiation failed". that's when i tried gnutls-cli to get more info
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17:31<jmcnaught>malaze_: what is the gnutls command you are using?
17:32<malaze_>gnutls-cli -d 9999 localhost -p 143 -V
17:32<malaze_>i got the 9999 from man
17:32<malaze_>pure desperation ;)
17:32<jmcnaught>malaze_: does your IMAP server use starttls?
17:32<malaze_>yep
17:34<jmcnaught>malaze_: gnutls-cli has a --starttls option. i think the version in jessie doesn't handle protocols like imap and smtp though. what about "openssl s_client -connect fqdn.imap.example.com:143 -starttls imap" ?
17:34<jmcnaught>note that if you test the TLS certificate by connecting as localhost it will fail, because the certificate should be for the FQDN of the server (assuming it's a CA signed cert)
17:35<jmcnaught>if you have a CA signed cert for localhost we're all doomed :)
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17:35<malaze_>you're right. i've just changed to ommit the hostname.. my bad
17:35<malaze_>by the way, thanks for your time. i'm going to try openssl
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17:36<jmcnaught>anyways.. openssl s_client does handle starttls for imap and smtp, does the same thing as gnutls-cli
17:36<jmcnaught>,i swaks
17:36<judd>Package swaks (mail, optional) in jessie/amd64: SMTP command-line test tool. Version: 20130209.0-3; Size: 78.5k; Installed: 231k; Homepage: http://www.jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/
17:36<jmcnaught>malaze_: also try the above package ^^
17:36<jmcnaught>good luck, i've got to split for a while
17:37<malaze_>the only output that 'catches my eye' (not english native, sry) is: "140268135147152:error:14082174:SSL routines:SSL3_CHECK_CERT_AND_ALGORITHM:dh key too small:s3_clnt.c:3435" and "No client certificate CA names sent". but i see no handshake error
17:37<malaze_>okay, thank you very much jmcnaught. have a good day sir! *
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17:40<suchmystery>hi all. on my PowerBook G4, I have moved my HFS+ partition to try and resize it; I did this thru a Lubuntu live DVD. after restarting and booting into Debian, it won't let me boot anymore, saying "Welcome to emergency mode!" and "Cannot open access to console, the root account is locked." after pressing enter to continue, nothing happens: two error messages "hfsplus: invalid secondary volume header", and "hfsplus: unable to find H
17:40<suchmystery>… and I just go back to the same screen. my partition map is APM. anything I can do? thanks in advance.
17:41<sofyan>hi
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17:54<malaze_>jmcnaught, thanks for the tip on the swaks software, i got more info and more stuff to look for now. it's exactly the tool i needed
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19:26<r4f_debian>Hi all, I need to recover some data from a corrupted Windows 8 installation. I use basically Debian Jessie 8.6 (ext4) with gparted installed on it. My question is: is that possible recovering these data existing in gpt partition using my Debian Jessie + gparted ?
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19:38<awal1>r4f_debian, you're asking for help about how to recover microsoft windows stuff?
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19:49<r4f_debian>I'm back
19:49<r4f_debian>Oh, sorry for not answering you before, awal1, I was absent here !
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19:50<r4f_debian>well, awal1, I don't care about windows for I don't use it anymore. I just intend to recover some data from gpt partition (on hard disk where windows is installed)
19:50<r4f_debian>only data from its damage installation interests me, and this corrupted windows installation doesn't boot anymore
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19:51<r4f_debian>My Primary OS are just UNIX-like OS, Debian Jessie, exclusively
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20:04<ciaobello>i do use lmde2 Mate desktop and as system language I use English. Now i would like to be able to use a terminal with a different user (su username) and also use a different language in this Terminal session ... is this possible?
20:04<ciaobello>Log in in Mate with different language is no problem ...
20:05<blast007>!mint
20:05<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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20:05<ciaobello>i know ... but this seems to be more a debian issue than a linux mint issue
20:06<blast007>doesn't matter
20:06<blast007>you're not running Debian
20:07<ciaobello>ok ... i have a virtualbox with debian jessie ... how do i do it there ... also mate desktop ...
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20:09<bremner>!locale
20:09<dpkg>A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale
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20:25<ciaobello>!locales
20:25<dpkg>Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale
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21:19<acracia_>hi
21:19<acracia_>i need help
21:19<acracia_>:(
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21:21<gry>what's up acracia_ ?
21:22<acracia_>i have a problem with chrome
21:22<acracia_>32 bits
21:22<acracia_>i can't install
21:23<gry>chrome or chromium ? what does it say when you try to install ?
21:27<acracia_>google chrome
21:28<acracia_>says
21:28<acracia_> Installing package...
21:28<acracia_>Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
21:28<acracia_>Creando árbol de dependencias
21:28<acracia_>Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
21:28<acracia_>E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete google-chrome-stable
21:28-!-acracia_ was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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21:30<acracia__>sorry, it says E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete google-chrome-stable
21:30<acracia__>
21:30<acracia__> There was a problem installing Google Chrome Stable.
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21:31<acracia__>in english:
21:31<acracia__>It has not been able to locate google-chrome-stable
21:32<bremner>acracia__: that sounds like a problem with google's repos
21:32<acracia__>im noob on debian hehe
21:33<acracia__>im using crunchbang++ with debian jessie
21:33<acracia__>my english is bad :(
21:34<AlexLikeRock>español ?
21:34<AlexLikeRock>yo hablo español ?
21:34<acracia__>Yo si
21:34<AlexLikeRock>yo hablo español ! :-)
21:34<acracia__>Holaaa!
21:34<bremner>!es
21:34<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
21:34<AlexLikeRock>vamos a #
21:34<AlexLikeRock>vamos a #debian-es
21:34<acracia__>vale
21:34<bremner>otoh, I guess they won
21:35<bremner>'t want to support crunchbang either
21:35<bremner>*shrug*
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21:54<heibol>arp -v
21:54<heibol>uos
21:55<heibol>ups
21:55<heibol>sorry
21:57<heibol>I was creating a wicd script, I type a command here.
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