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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-10-26

---Logopened Wed Oct 26 00:00:02 2016
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00:00<awal1>vortek, I never user extensions similar to noscript with chromium, I have no clue about that
00:00<awal1>I never used ^
00:00<awal1>chrome/chromium is itself a big spyware, anyway :D:P
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01:37<Fenhl>hello, I am using needrestart and it always asks to restart ssh.service, even after confirming this and then running `sudo needrestart` again. Any ideas how to fix this?
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01:53<mike2>hey does anyone here know how to recover my sudo password if I have root password?
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01:56<themill>what do you mean by "sudo password"?
01:56<ransur0t>just reset it -- sudo passwd root
01:56<mike2>I can't run sudo though because I don't know the pw
01:57<ransur0t>gain root, su
01:57<themill>mike2: you don't know your user's password?
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01:58<ransur0t>sudo is a group, so any user that is part of it just uses their password to execute
01:58<jelly>mike2: "sudo password" is just the normal user's password, you can set a new one with "passwd username"
01:58<mike2>it must be different then my users name
01:58<jelly>log in as root at the console
01:58<ransur0t>per themill 's statement :)
01:58<mike2>gp jelly
01:59<mike2>login as root then passwd sudo
01:59<ransur0t>sudo is not a user name
02:00<mike2>"root's permission"
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02:05<r4f_debian>Hi all, I finished to perform other Debian Jessie installation, but I'd like to know, please, which command do I use to check the most current kernel linux in debian backports
02:06<r4f_debian>I know I have to use the following syntax: "apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-4.......bpo.1-amd64", but don't remember how to check the most updated kernel linux available in Debian backports
02:08<r4f_debian>Other question, please: is this repository adequate for use in this case I look for a kernel linux update ? "deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free"
02:09<ransur0t>apt-cache search linux-image
02:09<ransur0t>then take your pick
02:10<r4f_debian>Hi ransur0t, nice to meet you here ! And thanks a lot for Great Support :)
02:10<ransur0t>yw, r4f_debian , and your repo entry is correct
02:10<ransur0t>if incorrect, when you do apt-get update, errors would be reported, unable to resolve, etc.
02:11<themill>,kernel --release jessie-backports
02:11<judd>Available kernel versions are: jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1)
02:11<themill>r4f_debian: ^^
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02:12<themill>(or -amd64 rather than -pae-686 for you)
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02:13<r4f_debian>Ok, please ransur0t,"apt-cache search linux-image" replies the following outuput: https://paste.debian.net/889915/ - but I couldn't check which is the most recent kernel release and version
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02:14<r4f_debian>oh, Hi themill, nice and happy to see you again here ! :)
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02:14<r4f_debian>ok, judd, thanks for information and Great Support ! :)
02:14<ransur0t>doesn't look like apt-cache is querying backports repo
02:15<ransur0t>and judd has pointed out the most recent version :)
02:15<r4f_debian>yes, but that is what I needed
02:15<ransur0t>yup
02:15<r4f_debian>yes, I've already checked it, thanks ransur0t !
02:17<r4f_debian>Please, ransur0t and judd: the syntax for installing the most recent version is like that or not ? "apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-4.7.0.bpo.1-amd64"
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02:18<ransur0t>r4f_debian: give it a try, if syntax is incorrect, bash shell will certainly tell you ;)
02:19<r4f_debian>ok ransur0t, thanks for that ! Let me try it here....
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02:23<ransur0t>let us know how it goes!
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02:24<r4f_debian>I can't get good result here, ransur0t, I'm having the following errors: https://paste.debian.net/889928/
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02:28<okraits>Hey guys, i'm on Jessie and i can't get gvfs to mount locations with sftp and smb. Can anybody please help me to solve this?
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02:29<r4f_debian>by the way, I forgot to include the backports repository in sources.list. Is this correct ? "deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free"
02:29<themill>yes
02:30<ransur0t>I was just about to say it's a repo issue ;0
02:31<r4f_debian>Thanks themill ! :)
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02:39<r4f_debian>recently I've been suffering brain issues here, ransur0t, lol !
02:39<ransur0t>np, happens to all of us on occasion
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02:41<r4f_debian>yes, I have to think like that to avoid depression. Thanks for Great Support ransur0t, judd and themill. It's always a Great Pleasure having your contacts here ! As I always say: " Debian Warriors are the Best !". Really Thanks !
02:41<r4f_debian>Must go now. See you ! :)
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02:42<ransur0t>farewell
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04:10<okraits>For the record, i fixed mounting with gvfs. The trick was to use xsession and not xinitrc so that the X11 Xsession scripts get executed.
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04:16<babilen>dpkg: .xinitrc
04:16<dpkg>The optional customisation script ~/.xinitrc is used for running X as startx, and ~/.xsession is for when using X from a Display Manager like xdm or kdm. .xinitrc is discouraged in Debian, as if you just use ~/.xsession it will work from both startx and the display manager, as documented in startx(1).
04:16<babilen>Indeed
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04:22<okraits>babilen: https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce#From_the_console that's where i got the hint
04:22<okraits>babilen: it's also mentioned in man startx
04:23<babilen>Well done :)
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04:24<okraits>babilen: That issue was really getting on my nerves - i'm happy that it's solved now :)
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08:20<hamidi>hi all
08:20<hamidi>i've a problem with bluetooth dongle in jessie
08:21<hamidi>i ubuntu i see the device as:
08:21<hamidi>Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
08:21<hamidi>when i run lsusb
08:21<hamidi>but in jessie this dongle is not recognized
08:21<hamidi>what can i do?
08:21<hamidi>thx
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08:28<TotallyNotKim>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1492532
08:28<TotallyNotKim>was fixed in ubuntu it seems
08:29<TotallyNotKim>maybe try newer kernel?
08:29<TotallyNotKim>dunno
08:29<TotallyNotKim>but thats a place to start I think
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08:29<hamidi>kernel is not old. as i remember it was 3.16 or something
08:30<hamidi>(i'm in ubuntu live, rebooted jessie to be able to get help via chat)
08:30<hamidi>network is disconnected and i've to use ubuntu live to connect to the internet via my mobile network
08:30<hamidi>this is what i need in jessie
08:31<TotallyNotKim>via bluetooth?
08:31<TotallyNotKim>like bluetooth tethering?
08:31<hamidi>yeah
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08:32<TotallyNotKim>you may be able to use usb tethering as a workarround
08:33<TotallyNotKim>and install a backports kernel then to _maybe_ get the dongle to work
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08:34<hamidi>in debian, i can't connect to the internet. if i need to download something, i've to do it now, while i'm in ubuntu live.
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08:35<jarvis>hello
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08:36<m>hi
08:36<TotallyNotKim>hamidi: thats why I told you to try the usb tethering instead of bluetooth tethering
08:37<TotallyNotKim>if your platform is able to do this tho
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08:37<TotallyNotKim>android / apple / mickysoft
08:37<TotallyNotKim>?
08:39<hamidi>hmm, i've no network dongle
08:39<hamidi>oh yeah, i got what u said
08:39<TotallyNotKim>your phonnneeee
08:39<m>TotallyNotKim, mickysoft xD
08:40<hamidi>good suggestion, but my usb cable is nonstable. (connects & disconnects)
08:40<TotallyNotKim>gosh
08:41<TotallyNotKim>r'u running on the last pieces of hardware you have?
08:41<hamidi>since ubuntu & debian are similar, the solution should not be so complicated
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08:42<hamidi>it's about 3 to 4 years i've bought the dongle, if u mean this
08:42<TotallyNotKim>disconnect the dongle put it back in and post relevant last lines of dmesg
08:43<hamidi>dmesg from debian? or from ubuntu?
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08:43<TotallyNotKim>debian
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08:44<TotallyNotKim>you could save the output somewhere on the hdd and post it afterwards here
08:44<hamidi>oh, if i do this, i'll get disconnected
08:44<TotallyNotKim>if you don't do this I won't be able to help you
08:45<hamidi>ok, this is what i'll do. i reboot and go to debian again and will try to connected to the internet via usb tethering
08:45<hamidi>i hope it will work
08:45<TotallyNotKim>ifconfig usb0 up
08:45<TotallyNotKim>in case you need it
08:45<TotallyNotKim>otherwise do what I told you
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08:45<TotallyNotKim>save the lines somewhere on the hdd
08:45<TotallyNotKim>boot ubuntu again
08:46<hamidi>ok, thx
08:46<hamidi>for now...
08:46<TotallyNotKim>dmesg | tail -n 120 > /some/where/on/your/hdd
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09:02<hamidi>rehi
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09:02<hamidi>connecting from jessie via usb tethering
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09:02<hamidi>now please repeat what command i should use
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09:03<TotallyNotKim>dmesg | tail -n 120 > /some/where/on/your/hdd
09:03<TotallyNotKim>or dmesg | tail -n 120 when you're able to paste directly
09:03<TotallyNotKim>paste directly to http://paste.debian.net/ *********
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09:04<nox>hello?
09:04<TotallyNotKim>ayyyyyyyy
09:04<nox>person/bot? :D
09:04<nox>both?
09:05<hamidi>done: http://paste.debian.net/890024/
09:05<nox>ehm
09:05<nox>what is it?
09:05<nox>:D
09:06<nox>is there a good soul willing to help me a bit? ...
09:06<grove>!ask
09:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:07<nox>Hi, I don't know how to install proprietary drivers for AMD RX470, I have downloaded the Ubuntu package but it says "unsupported OS"
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09:07<user1>hey
09:07<nox>hou
09:07<nox>:D
09:07<user1>how are you today?
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09:08<nox>well, not bad...
09:08<grove>nox: No surprising since debian!=ubuntu
09:08<grove>!chat
09:08<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
09:08<nox>!grove it used to work in the past
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09:09<user1>okay my I am sorry I will change channels
09:10<grove>nox: Then you were lucky in the past
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09:11<dash47>hey hi
09:12<m>hi
09:12<grove>nox: Don't pm people you don't know. - And I don't use AMD graphics and as a consequence doesn't care or know about drivers
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09:13<nox>How do I install AMD RX 470 on Debian? Thank You.
09:13<hamidi>TotallyNotKim: could you read the log?
09:14<TotallyNotKim>im on it, give me a sec
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09:14<TotallyNotKim>usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
09:14<TotallyNotKim>looks good to me
09:15<TotallyNotKim>what does not work?
09:16<TotallyNotKim>also output of hcitool dev ?
09:16<hamidi>bluetooth tethering
09:17<nox>How do I install AMD RX 470 on Debian? Thank You. :)
09:17<hamidi>indeed usb tethering may work and solve my problem, but since the usb cable is nonstable, i prefer bluetooth tethering
09:17<TotallyNotKim>nox: spamming wont help, we see you, most of us are @work and will help you anytime they got time for it
09:18<TotallyNotKim>hamidi: I got this. But it looks like the bt dongle _is_ working. so post the output of "hcitool dev"
09:18<nox>Sorry :|
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09:23<maq>helo
09:23<TotallyNotKim>ayyyyyyyy
09:24<maq>how you doing guys
09:24<grove>!chat
09:24<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
09:24<hamidi>where is hcitool dev? another channel?
09:24<hamidi>how?
09:24<TotallyNotKim>thats a command genius
09:24<hamidi>oh ok :D
09:24<grove>hamidi: hcitool is in bluez package
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09:25<hamidi>Devices: hci0 00:15:83:3D:0A:57
09:25<TotallyNotKim>there you have it
09:25<TotallyNotKim>the bt dongle _is_ being recognized
09:26<TotallyNotKim>so we'll have to work out why you cant use tethering
09:26<hamidi>so why it's not working?
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09:26<hamidi>it's not listed in devices
09:26<hamidi>its icon for example is not shown in notification area
09:26<TotallyNotKim>hci0 00:15:83:3D:0A:57 is not the bt dongle?
09:26<maq>ok i have problem with firefox it can connect to internet it says connection is not secure i ma using parrot plis help
09:26<hamidi>when i search for bluetooth nothing is brought up
09:27<duclicsic>maq: parrot is not debian, they have their own irc channel
09:27<TotallyNotKim>that's because you have to install the package for that
09:27<TotallyNotKim>https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser
09:27<hamidi>hmm, i've no other dongle. just connected my mobile to PC using cable. maybe it is?
09:27<maq>ok thinks
09:27<TotallyNotKim>apt-get install bluetooth gnome-bluetooth
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09:27<TotallyNotKim>if you're using gnome of course
09:27<hamidi>but i had not to install anything in ubuntu
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09:28<hamidi>i'm using cinnamon
09:28<hamidi>sometimes mate
09:28<TotallyNotKim>thats because ubuntu and debian differ
09:28<TotallyNotKim>otherwise they wouldn't have different names
09:28<hamidi>oh sure
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09:29<hamidi>i've to install cinnamon-bluetooth?
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09:30<TotallyNotKim>there is no such package
09:30<TotallyNotKim>at least not in the man repos
09:30<TotallyNotKim>im searching
09:30<hamidi>maybe that works also in cinnamon and mate?
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09:31<TotallyNotKim>could be
09:32<TotallyNotKim>otherwise you could pair from terminal directly
09:33<TotallyNotKim>https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser section "Pairing using CLI"
09:33<hamidi>i installed gnome-bluetooth, but doesn't differ. still bluetooth is not shown
09:33<TotallyNotKim>yeah
09:33<TotallyNotKim>it's a gnome applet I think
09:33<TotallyNotKim>so just try it from the command line
09:33<TotallyNotKim>it's not that hard
09:34<hamidi>bash: bluetooth: command not found
09:34<hamidi>i'm not an expert
09:35<TotallyNotKim>i only see bluetooth-agent in the doc
09:35<TotallyNotKim>!dpkg bluez
09:35<TotallyNotKim>he
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09:37<nox>How do I install AMD RX 470 on Debian? Thank You. :)
09:38<TotallyNotKim>nox: I told ya before and I could not find a driver from amd build for linux yet
09:38<TotallyNotKim>could be very well thats simply not supported yet (ym)
09:38<nox>I found few articles and benchmarks done on nonUbuntu distros, so there is a way... I just don't know how to do it
09:39<TotallyNotKim>sure it wasn't the open source driver?
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09:39<nox>it was the "AMDGPU pro"
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09:40<nox>but thanks for your time anyway, good bye.
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09:41<TotallyNotKim>amdgpu pro has ubuntu drivers
09:41<TotallyNotKim>it says so on their side
09:41<TotallyNotKim>conserning ubutntu drivers on debian -> https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
09:42<blast007>TotallyNotKim: they left
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09:42<TotallyNotKim>both of them?
09:42<TotallyNotKim>ha
09:43<TotallyNotKim>maybe I should disbale the join / left filter
09:43<TotallyNotKim>at least left
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09:44<nicklas>Hi, i am new to Debian Desktop and i dont know if im just stupid but am i not supposed to be able to connect to the wireless internet connection?
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09:46<TotallyNotKim>given a) your wireless card is supported and b) you have the network manager installed and c) network manager is set to manage networks on this device then yes
09:46<nicklas>I got Wicd Network Manager
09:46<nicklas>And Wifi Radar
09:46<nicklas>but none of them can find any wireless
09:47<TotallyNotKim>gnome should come with one preinstalled
09:47<TotallyNotKim>if using gnome
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09:47<nicklas>theres something called "Network"
09:47<TotallyNotKim>https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/net-wireless-connect.html.en
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09:49<nicklas>Uh so yea.. im guessing system menu is my settings and then network.. did that.. then it says " Select Wi-Fi Not Connected. The Wi-Fi section of the menu will expand. " but it doesnt say anything about wifi anywhere..
09:49<nicklas>I feel kinda stupid s:
09:50<chg>nicklas: yeah
09:50<nicklas>chg yeah what?
09:51<TotallyNotKim>so your card may not be detected
09:51<nicklas>Oh..
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09:51<TotallyNotKim>are you familiar with the terminal?
09:51<nicklas>well uh i know how to run commands and such yes
09:51<nicklas>do not know most of the commands though
09:52<nicklas>iknow the "basics" like.. apt-get install **, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
09:52<TotallyNotKim>okay so can you connect via cable?
09:52<chg>nicklas: hinda likely
09:52<TotallyNotKim>at least?
09:52<nicklas>Yea
09:52<TotallyNotKim>cool
09:52<nicklas>i am on the pc right now only reason i got a connection is cause of the cable (:
09:52<TotallyNotKim>then paste the output of "ip a" here http://paste.debian.net/
09:53<nicklas>i cant
09:53<nicklas>XML tolkningsfejl: ikke well-formed
09:53<nicklas>Adresse: file:///var/tmp/kdecache-nicklas/krun/4892_0_
09:53<nicklas>Linje 290, kolonne 33:<option value="86400" selected >24h</option>
09:53<nicklas>--------------------------------^
09:53<TotallyNotKim>becauuuuuuuuse
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09:54<nicklas>i jusut send the text it says when going to the link
09:54<nicklas>just*
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09:55<nicklas>theres nowhere i can input anything.
09:55<TotallyNotKim>you opened the site in a browser, pasted the output in the big field and hit send?
09:55<nicklas>I opened the site in a browser
09:55<nicklas>then it gives the text i just send
09:55<TotallyNotKim>oh
09:55<TotallyNotKim>try any other site before
09:55<TotallyNotKim>google.de
09:55<TotallyNotKim>something that may not be cached
09:55<barteks2x>wtf? fdisk thinks my USb disk has 1.3TB partition
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09:55<nicklas>google works fine
09:56<nicklas>as well as facebook
09:56<TotallyNotKim>well poste on pastebin.net then
09:56<TotallyNotKim>or somewhere else
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09:56<nicklas>Alright
09:56<TotallyNotKim>past*
09:56<dimon>hello
09:56<TotallyNotKim>paste* goddamn
09:56<TotallyNotKim>ayyyyyy
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09:56<nicklas>Should i send you the link in pv or just in openchat?
09:56<TotallyNotKim>here is fine
09:57<nicklas>alright
09:57<dimon>yea
09:57<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/A4xLQ1nE
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09:57<TotallyNotKim>okay
09:57<TotallyNotKim>looks like the card is not detected
09:57<TotallyNotKim>try the same with lspci
09:58<TotallyNotKim>lspci is the command
09:58<nicklas>Alright
09:58<barteks2x>accordint to fdisk partitio table, size of my usb drive adds up to 2.8TB, but it's actually 7/8GB and works perfectly fine
09:58<barteks2x>how?
09:58<TotallyNotKim>magic
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09:58<dimon>wow
09:58<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/pmkcEnzj
09:59<TotallyNotKim>and you are on jessie right?
09:59<nicklas>Yea
09:59<nicklas>when i nano /etc/apt/sources.list it mentions jessie
10:00<barteks2x>the output looks like this, is there something wring with it? https://paste.debian.net/890031/
10:00<TotallyNotKim>follow these steps under "Installation": https://wiki.debian.org/wl
10:00<nicklas>under installation?
10:00<nicklas>like.. reinstall my pc?xD
10:01<TotallyNotKim>barteks2x: sdb doesnt look like a usb stick to me
10:01<duclicsic>nicklas: no, just follow the instructions on the page
10:01<nicklas>Alright
10:01<barteks2x>it is, I don't know why linux sees it that way
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10:01<duclicsic>nicklas: note that in the first step you don't have to add the whole line, you just need to add "non-free" to the end of the existing deb lines in the file
10:02<barteks2x>and other than that fdisk weirdness it works just fine
10:02<barteks2x>I can copy files to it, I can read these files, no errors
10:02<TotallyNotKim>indeed
10:03<TotallyNotKim>> Disk /dev/sdb: 7.3 GiB
10:03<barteks2x>but... how?
10:03<nicklas>Oh oka :)
10:03<barteks2x>how does it even work?
10:04<TotallyNotKim>im trying to find out
10:04<TotallyNotKim>did you create the partitions yourself?
10:04<barteks2x>I don't remember
10:04<barteks2x>ther eis one partition actually
10:04<barteks2x>and it's 7.3 GB
10:04<barteks2x>but fdisk sees 4 of them
10:04<nicklas>is it supposed to be in purple color the text im adding?
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10:05<TotallyNotKim>nicklas: yes
10:05<nicklas>alright good :)
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10:06<barteks2x>I don't even know what filesystem it is right now
10:06<barteks2x>because file manager just shows "msdos" there
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10:06<TotallyNotKim>"mount" will tell you that
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10:08<barteks2x>it doesn't?
10:08<olspookishmagus>lots of _dead_ links here: https://wiki.debian.org/Diagrams :(
10:08<nicklas>alright finished that "guide" now im supposed to configure my wifi but do i need to restart the pc first?
10:08<olspookishmagus>RIP kevix.org
10:08<TotallyNotKim>nicklas: you should have to
10:08<TotallyNotKim>we"re not dealing with windows here
10:08<TotallyNotKim>:P
10:09<TotallyNotKim>try ip a again
10:09<nicklas>ip a before or after restart?
10:09<TotallyNotKim>now
10:09<TotallyNotKim>without restart
10:09<nicklas>alright
10:09<nicklas>and pastebin it
10:09<nicklas>??
10:09<TotallyNotKim>yeah
10:09<nicklas>alright
10:09<duclicsic>if you're done, your wireless adaptor should show up in network manager
10:09<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/VKsBCru5
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10:10<duclicsic>ok sweet
10:10<TotallyNotKim>yep
10:10<TotallyNotKim>confirmed
10:10<nicklas>Alright so restart pc?
10:10<TotallyNotKim>it should be in the setting tab now
10:10<duclicsic>shouldn't need to
10:10<TotallyNotKim>no
10:10<TotallyNotKim>no restart :D
10:10<nicklas>oh ok
10:10<TotallyNotKim>just look where you didn't find anything before
10:10<TotallyNotKim>there should be "WiFi" now
10:11<nicklas>dont see it
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10:11<TotallyNotKim>huh
10:11<nicklas>i go into settings and network
10:11<TotallyNotKim>it should
10:12<nicklas>Wait woooot
10:12<TotallyNotKim>there we go
10:12<TotallyNotKim>:D
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10:12<nicklas>i go into network: " Systems networkservices is not compatible with this version "
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10:13<TotallyNotKim>aww snap
10:13<TotallyNotKim>hang on
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10:13<nicklas>Mind if i ask.. wouldnt it be easier to TV me?xD
10:13<TotallyNotKim>it would
10:13<nicklas>Wanna do that instead?
10:13<TotallyNotKim>but you want to learn, dont you?
10:13<nicklas>Well yea true :D
10:13<nicklas>Learning is good :3
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10:14<barteks2x> /dev/sdb1 doesn't even exist here...
10:16<barteks2x>filesystem here is definitely fat32
10:16<nicklas>TotallyNotKim it seems in my seeking of fixing my wifi i have installed 3 Firmwares could that be the reason for this error?
10:16<TotallyNotKim>nah
10:16<TotallyNotKim>could be
10:16<TotallyNotKim>but dont think so
10:16<nicklas>alright
10:16<TotallyNotKim>we'll go the command line way
10:16<nicklas>alright
10:17<TotallyNotKim>put this in your /etc/network/interfaces
10:17<TotallyNotKim>http://pastebin.com/xgqF0KzB
10:18<nicklas>alright
10:18<TotallyNotKim>adapt ssid with the ssid of your ssid of your netowrk
10:18<TotallyNotKim>and password the corresponding password
10:18<TotallyNotKim>then save
10:18<nicklas>Okay what if there isnt a password? and SSID thats the network name right?
10:18<TotallyNotKim>ssid = network name yeah
10:18<TotallyNotKim>and you're unprotected?
10:18<TotallyNotKim>didnt mummy tell ya to protect yourself>
10:19<nicklas>Im 17 on my schools network atm so ea
10:19<nicklas>Im 17 on my schools network atm so yea
10:19<TotallyNotKim>oh dear
10:19<TotallyNotKim>ok
10:19<nicklas>Living at my school for 6 weeks
10:19<TotallyNotKim>not sure but leave the wohle wpa-psk line out
10:20<TotallyNotKim>and sage
10:20<TotallyNotKim>safe*
10:20<nicklas>Alright
10:20<olspookishmagus>to which package should a "bug" for documentation? ( dead links on: https://wiki.debian.org/Diagrams )
10:20<babilen>olspookishmagus: Just fix them
10:20<babilen>(it's a wiki)
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10:21<nicklas>so my schools network is called: " Odense kommune gratis netværk " do i just write it like that or add a - between each word?
10:21<TotallyNotKim>oh come on
10:21<TotallyNotKim>;D
10:21<TotallyNotKim>wait a minute
10:21<nicklas>Yea ridiculous iknow xD
10:21<duclicsic>that's the wireless network SSID?
10:22<nicklas>Yea xD
10:22<duclicsic>you shouldn't have to type it anywhere
10:22<duclicsic>you will see it in the list of available networks when you're in range of it
10:22<duclicsic>surely you've connected something to a wireless network before? your phone maybe?
10:22<TotallyNotKim>the gnome network manager isn't working right
10:22<nicklas>Yea
10:22<nicklas>i believe so
10:22<TotallyNotKim>we're defining it in the interfaces conf
10:22<duclicsic>oh
10:23<nicklas>So do i type it like this: " wpa-ssid "Odense Kommune Gratis Internet " ?
10:23<TotallyNotKim>oh wait a moment
10:23<barteks2x>I really want to know why fdisk shows so weird information, i want to know if it's going to fail before I write bootable image to it
10:23<TotallyNotKim>THAT'S GERMAN
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10:23<TotallyNotKim>xD
10:23<nicklas>Lol what is?xD
10:24<duclicsic>looks more danish
10:24<babilen>Absolutely
10:24<nicklas>It is danish hahahaha xD
10:24<TotallyNotKim>im confused
10:24<babilen>dpkg: enter
10:24<dpkg>The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
10:24<nicklas>@TotallyNotKim confused about what?
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10:25<TotallyNotKim>nicklas: put the name in single quotes '
10:26<nicklas>like this? : 'Odense Kommune Gratis Internet'
10:26<TotallyNotKim>or double quotes
10:26<TotallyNotKim>use double quotes
10:26<nicklas>Okay xD
10:26<TotallyNotKim>wpa-ssid "Odense Kommune Gratis Internet"
10:26<nicklas>Alright
10:26<nicklas>and save?
10:27<TotallyNotKim>yeah
10:27<nicklas>Alright saved
10:27<TotallyNotKim>to bea clear: before you said it's called "Odense kommune gratis netværk"
10:27<nicklas>Yeayea mistyped xD
10:27<TotallyNotKim>when this is the actual name put it in there
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10:27<TotallyNotKim>okay. Then enable the interface now, "ifup wlan0"
10:27<nicklas>its supposed to be internet not netværk made a mistake :P
10:28<barteks2x>df shows correct partition information
10:28<nicklas>"
10:28<nicklas>wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
10:28<nicklas>run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1
10:28<nicklas>Failed to bring up wlan0.
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10:28<nicklas>Thats what it says ^
10:29<TotallyNotKim>uhm paste "tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog" please
10:30<nicklas>in terminal?
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10:30<nicklas>oh pastebin
10:30<TotallyNotKim>yes and output on pastebin
10:30<TotallyNotKim>right
10:30<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/Axbzm7Fd
10:32<TotallyNotKim>oh
10:32<nicklas>oh?
10:32<TotallyNotKim>try "service wpa_supplicant stop" please
10:32<TotallyNotKim>if this works ifup wlan0 again
10:33<nicklas>aloooooot of text again
10:33<TotallyNotKim>after which command?
10:34<nicklas>ifup wlan0
10:34<TotallyNotKim>does the output contain dhcp or dhclient?
10:35<TotallyNotKim>anyway - post output of "ip a" and "ifconfig" on pastebin. You can paste them in one paste
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10:35<nicklas>so much text.. would it be easier if i pastebinned it again?xD
10:35<nicklas>Alright
10:35<TotallyNotKim>you can poste the other output too
10:35<TotallyNotKim>paste*
10:35<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/MpNZcEuw
10:35<nicklas>thats ipa
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10:36<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/QhRe7RTJ
10:36<nicklas>ifconfig
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10:37<TotallyNotKim>yep there is still something we need to work on
10:37<nicklas>also
10:37<TotallyNotKim>the output of ifup wlan0 would be interesting
10:37<nicklas>pastebinning the ifup wlan0 now
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10:38<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/TuqbFWpR
10:38<nicklas>Thats the ifup wlan0
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10:40<TotallyNotKim>okay could you post "iwlist wlan0 scan" please?
10:40<nicklas>yea
10:40<nicklas>sec
10:41<nicklas>wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
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10:42<helpermaybe>Hey there, is there anyone in charge of missing man pages? The Debian QA Man pages page at https://qa.debian.org/man-pages.html links to the Missing Man Pages Project page at http://www.netmeister.org/misc/m2p2/index.html but that is a Forbidden page and has been for a long time. I'd like to write the missing man pages and to find out where I should put them or to whom I should give them as I finish each one.
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10:42<TotallyNotKim>try "ifconfig wlan0 up" and then iwlist again please
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10:43<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/bhc6KETj
10:44<TotallyNotKim>awesome
10:45<nicklas>What is? (:
10:45<TotallyNotKim>"service wpa_supplicant stop" and then "ifup wlan0"
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10:46<pipedream>"
10:46<nicklas>Pastebin when it finishes or?
10:46<TotallyNotKim>of "ip a" yeah
10:46<nicklas>alright
10:46<helpermaybe>Nobody knows anything about the missing man pages project?
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10:47<nicklas>alright it finishes
10:47<nicklas>pastebinning ip a now
10:47<nicklas>http://pastebin.com/hFnbYCSe
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10:48<TotallyNotKim>looks like you're connected via wifi
10:48<nicklas>alright
10:48<TotallyNotKim>take the cable out and try your luck
10:48<helpermaybe>Thank you for the help.
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10:48<nicklas>alright i'll let you know how it is
10:48<TotallyNotKim>^this
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10:50<nicklas>Damn!
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10:50<nicklas>TotallyNotKim i took the cable out and went: www.google.com but it just keep saying "connecting"
10:50<TotallyNotKim>might be a dns problem
10:50<nicklas>Dns?
10:51<nicklas>Oh the domain you mean?
10:52<TotallyNotKim>try this: take the cable out and type "ifdown eth0", then "ping 8.8.8.8" terminate this via crtl+c after a few secs, put the cable back in and then "ifup eth0" again
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10:53<nicklas_>ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
10:54<TotallyNotKim>thats okay
10:54<TotallyNotKim>just continue
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10:54<TotallyNotKim>just making sure its really down
10:54<nicklas_>alright
10:54<TotallyNotKim>wait
10:54<Perdouille>Hello !
10:54<nicklas_>well i coninued
10:54<TotallyNotKim>k
10:54<nicklas_>and after around.. 3 seconds after pinging
10:54<TotallyNotKim>and?
10:54<nicklas_>From 169.254.7.192 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable x6
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10:55<TotallyNotKim>can you paste the output of "route -n" after disconnecting the cable?
10:55<nicklas_>sure moment
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10:56<nicklas_>http://pastebin.com/17qgL1LQ
10:56<TotallyNotKim>that looks good to me
10:57<nicklas_>Weird that it wont connect to the website then o:
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10:57<Perdouille>Hello !
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10:57<AlexLikeRock>hi Perdouille
10:58<TotallyNotKim>you"re connected and also got an ip from your schools dhcp server
10:58<TotallyNotKim>but cant send
10:58<nicklas_>Oh
10:58<nicklas_>Can it be fixed?
10:58<grindhold>what's the status of DebianParl. is it a dead project?
10:58<Perdouille>I have a problem when installing ejabberd, how can I put the apt-get install in english so you can read it ?
10:59<Perdouille>iirc it's LANG=C or something like that
10:59<Perdouille>Ok it's LC_ALL=C
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11:00<Perdouille>Does anyone know what can I do to fix the ejabberd install ?
11:00<Perdouille>https://paste.debian.net/890051/
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11:00<nicklas_>TotallyNotKim you theere?(:
11:01<TotallyNotKim>yeah just dealing with a customer
11:01<TotallyNotKim>one sec
11:01<nicklas_>Oh okay sure (:
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11:03<TotallyNotKim>nicklas_: output of "iwconfig 2>&1 | grep ESSID" ?
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11:03<nicklas_>wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg ESSID:off/any
11:04<TotallyNotKim>aha
11:04<TotallyNotKim>trolled myself
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11:04<nicklas_>trolled yourself? how so?xD
11:05<AlexLikeRock>lol
11:06<TotallyNotKim>thought that you're connect cause you had an ip, but it was fallback actually
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11:06<nicklas_>Oh lol xD
11:08<nicklas_>So.. What next? (:
11:08<TotallyNotKim>so lets try this: ' iwconfig wlan0 essid "Odense Kommune Gratis Internet" ' and then ' iwconfig wlan0 ap any ' followed by ' dhclient wlan0 '
11:08<TotallyNotKim>comands are in ' ' each
11:08<TotallyNotKim>poste output all together then
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11:09<nicklas_>Alright
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11:10<nicklas_>so.. i input the first one
11:10<nicklas_>then a smaller line without any text behind comes up
11:10<nicklas_>then in that i write iwconfig ...
11:10<TotallyNotKim>you forgot a quote
11:10<nicklas_>a quote?
11:10<nicklas_>Oh fuck
11:10<TotallyNotKim>iwconfig wlan0 essid "Odense Kommune Gratis Internet"
11:10<nicklas_>xD
11:10<TotallyNotKim>thats the first command
11:10<TotallyNotKim>quote = "
11:10<nicklas_>my bad didnt copy the last "
11:10<TotallyNotKim>^^
11:11<nicklas_>I entered that and then it goes down to a white line x.x
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11:12<TotallyNotKim>to a white line?
11:12<TotallyNotKim>can you screenshot tht? lol
11:12<nicklas_>Sure
11:12<TotallyNotKim>that*
11:12<nicklas_>but can i insert screenshots in here?
11:12<TotallyNotKim>poste tehm somewhere online
11:12<nicklas_>sure moment
11:12<TotallyNotKim>http://picpaste.com/
11:12<TotallyNotKim>guessed the domain lol
11:13<nicklas_>lol btw where on my pc do i find my screenshots?
11:13<TotallyNotKim>maybe in Pictures\Screenshots
11:13<TotallyNotKim>are you using gnome-screenshot?
11:13<TotallyNotKim>it should be asking then I think
11:14<nicklas_>dont know just pressint prtsc
11:14<nicklas_>pressing*
11:14<TotallyNotKim>that just copies the screen into the ram
11:14<TotallyNotKim>search for screenshot in the menu
11:14<nicklas_>oh well i found a screenshot xD
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11:15<nicklas_>so picpaste wont open my files when i press the button for finding the file >.<
11:16<nicklas_>Sec.. you know acweb?
11:16<nicklas_>gonna make a thread on there xD
11:16<nicklas_>with the sh
11:16<TotallyNotKim>screw it
11:16<TotallyNotKim>http://imgur.com/
11:16<TotallyNotKim>top left post new
11:16<nicklas_>alright
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11:17<nicklas_>http://imgur.com/a/YJFJP
11:17<nicklas_>Oh wait my bad
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11:17<nicklas_>http://imgur.com/wpmu1fj
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11:18<TotallyNotKim>ah
11:18<TotallyNotKim>got it
11:18<nicklas_>well it stops the white line after
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11:18<nicklas_>and goes back to
11:18<TotallyNotKim>ctrg+c and then "iwconfig 2>&1 | grep ESSID"
11:18<nicklas_>root@NicklasDebian:/home/nicklas#
11:18<nicklas_>alright
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11:18<nicklas_>wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg ESSID:off/any
11:19<TotallyNotKim>oh c'mon
11:19<nicklas_>hahaha this is annoying as fuck huh?xD
11:19<blast007>maybe it'd be easier to just buy a long network cable? ;)
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11:41<barteks2x>I want to resize /home partition. Is it possible without booting from something else? (from withing the currently running system)
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11:43<janus>Typically gparted or something similar is needed.
11:43<janus>I think it will be more of a headache, than a gparted live ISO
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11:45<barteks2x>Last time I tried to boot gparted from pendrive I ended up buying a CD
11:46<barteks2x>there are so many different instructions and I don't know which way is right
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11:55<janus>You could also just perform a debian live boot, and then perform the gparted/fdisk
11:55<janus>Fairly certain a Live ISO would have gparted. It's worth a shot. I have never had luck expanding my hard drive on a hot system.
11:55<janus>s/hot/mounted
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12:01<Walex2>barteks2x: iof the partition holding the '/home' filetree is on the same block device as the partition with the '/' filetree then you need to reboot.
12:01<barteks2x>I'm downloading gparted and hopw it will work...
12:01<Walex2>barteks2x: while a filetree is open ("busy") on a device, the kernel will not reread the new partition table.
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12:03<Walex2>barteks2x: you don't strictly need a live ISO/USB if you do the right operations in the right order, only a rebooot, but it is safer to do it from a live CD/USB.
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12:05<barteks2x>writing the gpated image now, hopwfully it will work. Resizing partitions by itself doesn't feel safe, and doing it less safe way is even worse
12:05<Walex2>barteks2x: doing any in-place operations without backup is a bit risky...
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12:05<Walex2>barteks2x: your feelings are sensible, good judgement.
12:05<barteks2x>I don't have much space for backup, and everything that is important to me is on github. It's just time needed to install all I have
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12:06<TotallyNotKim>> "everything that is important to me is on github"
12:07<TotallyNotKim>that's not a so safe backup
12:07<barteks2x>and dropbox
12:07<janus>I like the frustration of stumbling through the CLi, but the Ui on #gparted is visually reassuring on the partitions.
12:07<TotallyNotKim>better but still not optimal
12:07<TotallyNotKim>:D
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12:07<barteks2x>and I meant that the most important for me things I ahve are code
12:08<Walex2>TotallyNotKim: inscription on the rock on the side of a mountain? On a lead tablet? :-)
12:08<barteks2x>photos? These are nothing, it's not a big loss, especially whe they are all crap quality
12:08<barteks2x>and these I have on external drive too
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12:08<barteks2x>anyway, rebooting into gpartd now
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14:37<iStrive>is there a way to output the command result to a file but with new lines for each entry?
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14:38<blast007>iStrive: are you wanting to append the output of additional commands to the same file? if so, use >> instead of >
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14:39<iStrive>that is working fine, the problem is that the command is comming as a single line (like a paragraph) as opposed to a new line for each result...
14:39<somiaj>iStrive: what command result?
14:39<somiaj>iStrive: what command?
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14:40<iStrive>apt-get update > /tmp/sysupd.tmp && apt-get upgrade -y >> /tmp/sysupd.tmp
14:41<iStrive>I want the resulting file to have line breaks for each output
14:41<somiaj>iStrive: so you want to enter in newlines into the output of those programs? In that case you may have to send it through a thrid party program to insert these newlines. Unsure what would be best.
14:41<somiaj>iStrive: oh in that case just add an echo >> /path/to/foo in the middle, this will put a new line between the outputs
14:41<iStrive>my email gets the whole thing as one line...
14:41<somiaj>you could also do echo -e "\n\n" for multiple new lines between the two programs output
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14:42<iStrive>how would the command line look line then?
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14:42<blast007>iStrive: have you checked the file itself to see if it has multiple lines of text?
14:43<iStrive>not really, what I do in m script is to sedn the file to my email by mutt with < /tmp/sysupd.tmp later
14:44<blast007>my point is that the file might be right, but the way you're sending the email might be the problem
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14:44<iStrive>so what should I do different?
14:44<blast007>first of all, do what I said and verify the file itself
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14:45<iStrive>thanks in advance for all insights! it is good to count on people´s expertise!
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14:46<iStrive>Doing it now, Sir!
14:47<iStrive>cat the file shows one output per line
14:48<blast007>so it looks right?
14:48<iStrive>yep!
14:48<blast007>good :) so now you just have to figure out how to send the email correctly
14:48<blast007>perhaps it's sending it as an HTML email, so newlines are being ignored
14:48<iStrive>LOL, that's precisely what I came here for!
14:49<iStrive>indeed the content_type is set to text/html
14:50<iStrive>but why is it stripping the line break/return?
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14:51<blast007>I've never used mutt, so I'm not familiar with how it works. But, if it *is* sending it as HTML, it would ignore the line breaks since HTML emails use <br> for line breaks (as well as things like <p> and <div>)
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14:51<iStrive>so the question is how to send attachment instead, right?
14:52<somiaj>yea if the email client is buchering it. I think you can tell mutt to send text only (not html)
14:52<somiaj>or use something like bsd-mailx
14:52<iStrive>therefore as an attachment it would simply send the file
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14:53<somiaj>that is another way
14:53<blast007>not necessarily as an attachment, but just as a plain text message. Perhaps something like this? mutt -e "set content_type=text/plain" ... < /tmp/sysupd.tmp
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14:54<iStrive>let me try that...
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15:19<jean__>I have a problem but don't know the source of it. whether debian stuff or texlive. Every time I compile a latex file, it gets stuck with no error messages. write18 is enabled and all I have a skeleton article i.e. the only loaded package is the article class. This is on a debian machine 4.7.0-1-amd64 and This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.17 (TeX Live 2016/Debian) (preloaded format=pdflatex)
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15:24<itd>jean__: jessie or stretch?
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15:25<jean__>itd: jessie
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15:27<jean__>itd: sorry not true, it is sid.
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15:28<cruncher>jean__, see topic
15:29<jean__>cruncher: sorry not following. do you mean #latex. if so I asked on that but no one responded.
15:29<itd>jean__: try #debian-next :)
15:30<itd>jean__: this channel is stable only.
15:30<jean__>itd: thanks and apologies
15:31<itd>jean__: no problem. good luck!
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16:09<prahal_odroid_>is there a policy about the permissions of apt sources.list.d files ? or are they bound to debian policy about "configuration files" (mode 644) ?
16:11<prahal_odroid_>ansible tells to use mode 0420 but this breaks most apt tools (including lsb_relase which calls apt policy) when run as non root
16:11<prahal_odroid_>I a looking for references to argument (out of the this breaks my use case :)
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16:15<themill>sort of -- nothing really ships files there because it shouldn't. As you've discovered though, those files have to be readable by a normal user on a routine basis.
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16:18<prahal_odroid_>make sense , no need for a policy in debian , when no debian infrastructure is aimed to write there
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16:19<prahal_odroid_>... well I will not get this excalibur that rules them all to get them to comply :o) let s bug them the friendly way
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16:37<prahal_odroid_>nvm it is their doc generation : their web doc tells 420 while their source tells 0644 (I believe sphinx interpret 0644 as octal and returns decimal 420 :/
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16:45<themill>0644 *is* octal
16:45<themill>;)
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17:24<ryouma>some programming languages even interpret all numbers starting with zero as octal. :(
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18:24<themill>ryouma: I can't think of any that don't (other than VB....)
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18:32<ryouma>some use e.g. #o and are decimal by default
18:32<ryouma>(just tried in emacs lisp)
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23:04<k_>which iso should i use to netinstall jessie from usb with a cinnamon desktop option?
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23:11<jmcnaught>k_: the netinst image can do that, it asks during the install which desktop you want
23:13<k_>jmcnaught: is this the image you refer to? I seem to find multiple links and am unsure. http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
23:14<k_>btw i picked up an ethernet adapter, relevant to our last exchange
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23:15<jmcnaught>k_: no how did you get there?
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23:15<jmcnaught>k_: the image linked from http://www.debian.org/ is what you want
23:15<k_>I googled debian download and came to this page https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
23:16<k_>This is what I mean by my question, which iso
23:16<k_>I just want to use the right onwe
23:16<jmcnaught>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso
23:16<k_>jmcnaught: great, thank you
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23:16<jmcnaught>k_: or the big green download button on the debian front page links to one that works for amd64 or i386
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