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01:23<r4f_debian>Hi all, Please, I need a great help from yours: I've installed Slackware and Debian in dual boot, installed Slackware first, then Debian (in this case, I delete 'lilo' boot loader that is existing in Slackware instanllation with 'grub' that comes with Debian Installation DVD. But I upgraded Slackware, and lilo was reinstalled again. Now, I don't have the option I had before with Grub, to boot with Slackware and Debian, and my Debian installation
01:23<r4f_debian>can't be accessed anymore
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01:24<somiaj>r4f_debian: just to be clear, you can boot debian?
01:24<lance>hello
01:25<r4f_debian>Hi somiaj, nice to meet you again !:) That's exactly this problem, somiaj, I can't boot debian again, because of lilo reinstallation, and it doesn't give me the option to choose which OS I want to boot, if Slackware or Debian as before
01:25<r4f_debian>Hi lance !
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01:25<lance>hi r4f_debian
01:25<lance>it's ages since i logged on to irc
01:26<r4f_debian>oh, welcome !
01:26<somiaj>r4f_debian: do you have the package os-prober installed
01:26<r4f_debian>did you understand my issue, somiaj ? I can't boot Debian as before, only Slackware, but my Debian installation is there
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01:27<r4f_debian>I think not, somiaj, but in this current situation, I wouldn't be able to access my Debian, for lilo doesn't show Debian installation, only Slackware ones
01:27<r4f_debian>:(
01:28<somiaj>r4f_debian: sorry, in this case I dont know slackware has any automatic way to detect other oses and make boot
01:28<somiaj>!fixmbr
01:28<dpkg>To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
01:28<r4f_debian>I never have any issue with grub with Debian, but lilo is a crappy
01:28<somiaj>r4f_debian: that is one way you can do it, you can use slack/live system to chroot into your debian system and reinstall grub and then make debian control the boot loader (you may have to disable slack from install grub)
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01:30<r4f_debian>it seems to be quite complex this operation.. :(
01:31<somiaj>r4f_debian: I guess I'm use to chroots so it is just the basic method of recovery when your bootloade braeks.
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01:31<r4f_debian>but, in this case you are explaining me, should I be able to install grub through slackware to be able to boot Debian again ?
01:32<somiaj>r4f_debian: but you can probably do this with slackware. mount your debian root fs, /, somewhere say /mnt, then mount anything else you need like proc, dev, sys for starters, maybe boot or other partitions. Chroot into the debian install and then run 'grub-install' inside the chroot to tell debian to reinstall grub in the mbr
01:32<somiaj>r4f_debian: you can try to have slackware manage the bootloader, or just do as I suggest and get into your debian install and have it reinstall its bootloader in the mbr
01:32<somiaj>(or efi)
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01:33<r4f_debian>in this case, it should be in mbr
01:33<r4f_debian>ok, somiaj, I'm not so sure I'll be able to do it, but I will try, following your suggestions, thanks anyway !
01:34<r4f_debian>See you ! :) Bye ! Bye all !
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01:43<usualMortal>Good day everyone. Yesterday I was trying to get some advices on my problem (that is, hwclock segfaults) and the last one I got before I had to go was 'get a debug version of hwclock'. I would appreciate any clues on how to do it 'cause I don't see anything like 'util-linux-debug' of 'hwclock-debug' in my packages' list. Pastebin of 'hwclock --debug' is http://pastebin.com/q6zQSdJR
01:44<somiaj>usualMortal: is this on debian stable?
01:44<usualMortal>Yes. I was doing some backports a few weeks later but I rolled back to stable.
01:45<somiaj>what do you mean by doing backports?
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01:46<usualMortal>Well, I added backports repositories to my sources.list, got the software I needed, then I was not satisfied by this so I have removed all backports entries from my apt and ungraded the system. That's what I mean.
01:47<somiaj>usualMortal: okay, and you surely got all the backports downgraded. Lets check the apt-cache policy of each and every dependcy of hwclock
01:47<somiaj>usualMortal: I was just seeing if maybe you had unoffical stuff compiled and installed in /usr/local -- this can sometimes cause unexpected bugs
01:48<usualMortal>By the way, I'll be leaving in 20 minutes or so and I'll be back in some 4-5 hours. Just in case warning you guys.
01:48<usualMortal>No, I'm not compiling some unofficial stuff.
01:48<somiaj>usualMortal: well I would look at apt-cache policy packagename of each and every depends of hwclock and ensure you actually have the jessie version installed and not a backport. maybe you have some lurking thing causing this from when you installed backports
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01:49<usualMortal>It is possible, yeah.
01:49<usualMortal>I have some trouble getting dependencies of hwclock because it's part of massive util-linux package. Can you give me some tips on how to check this quick?
01:50<somiaj>you'll have to look at the whole package as dependencies won't list for just a single binary
01:50<usualMortal>Yup, thought so.
01:50<somiaj>there is apt-rdepends that may help
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01:53<usualMortal>All right, figured that out. Say, I have e2fsprogs iInstalled: 1.43.3-1~bpo8+1, how do I verify if it's in stable release albeit from cheching stable packages list on web?
01:53<usualMortal>*checking
01:53<somiaj>usualMortal: there really sin't a nice automatic system for downgrading, you kinda just have to find them all and manually downgrade them
01:54<somiaj>usualMortal: apt-get install packagename=version can force apt to install a lower version, this sometimes works
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01:54<somiaj>!partial downgrade
01:54<dpkg>This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>.
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01:54<somiaj>dpkg -l | grep bpo might give you all packages that have a bpo version string
01:54<dpkg>ii | grep bpo might give you all packages that have a bpo version string 1.7-1.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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01:55<r4f_debian>Hi all, somiaj you got me out of hell again!
01:56<somiaj>r4f_debian: it worked, good to hear.
01:56<r4f_debian>I could recover my Debian partition after studying your suggestions ! Really Thank you !
01:56<r4f_debian>yeah !
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01:57<r4f_debian>now I'm talking to you using my Debian, that was blocked for some time because of lilo reinstallation and update
01:57<usualMortal>Just to make sure: http://pastebin.com/gXu6jTYV Am I supposed to downgrade e2fsprogs to 1.42.12-2 0 ?
01:58<somiaj>usualMortal: I would drop your pinning on jessie, seems like you turned it way up to try to fix your issue. That is fine but return it to normal.
01:58<somiaj>usualMortal: and yes if you want to completely remove all of jessie-backports you will have to say, 'apt-get install e2fsprogs=1.42.12-2'
01:58<r4f_debian>Thank you very much, somiaj, certainly I wouldn't never be able without your Help and Great Support !
01:59<r4f_debian>now, I'll sleep peacefully here, thanks again, somiaj and God Bless you !
01:59<somiaj>usualMortal: I think if you turn the pinning up above 1000 it will then say the downgraded version is the one it wants to install, but be careful with pinning and revert any changes you make to it once you are done
01:59<r4f_debian>Bye ! Bye all ! Debian Warriors will be forever the Best !
01:59<r4f_debian>:)
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02:00<usualMortal>somiaj: thx, will do that cleaning up a bit later. Downgrading till no more 'jessie/main', that is.
02:00<usualMortal>Thanks for the advice everyone, but now I have to go. Hope to see you soon.
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02:53<pardx>hi, when i connect my laptop to my TV (HDMI) i get rows of refreshing chunks or something, so that you see vertical lines on the screen where the upper picture doesn't match the rest of the picture. I'm using the nouveau driver on the g750M and the cpu grapic runs the i915.ko driver for intel graphics. Anybody any idea how to get a pretty picture?
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06:00<cra1g321>why does debian have django 1.7.11 in the stable repo whenever it's no longer maintained upstream since Dec 2015 ?
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06:21<narcan>cra1g321: you have the answer in your question
06:23<cra1g321>seen various tutorials saying use pip or virtualenv and im thinking "thats odd, is there no debian package" then check the packages page and django site, and that version is getting zero bugfixes and security fixes from django
06:24<cra1g321>so then there is a backport, so would it not make more sense to offer the backport one in the stable repo ?
06:24<narcan>debian 8 was released since april 2015
06:25<cra1g321>and ?
06:25<narcan>and you say: " it's no longer maintained upstream since Dec 2015"
06:25<cra1g321>i'm talking about python-django
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06:27<narcan>we can't put a backport version in a main stable repositories.
06:28<cra1g321>im curious is there some rule saying so ? looking at the dependencies at a glance there isnt anything major between jessie and jessie-backports version
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06:32<petn-randall>cra1g321: Every package in stable gets security updates by Debian. So this means that the Debian maintainers are checking any security bugs upstream, and if they apply to the version in Debian, backport the fix.
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06:35<cra1g321>yeah looking at the changlog it seems so, just seems to make more sense to use a version in the stable repo that is supported upstream like the version in jessie-backport repo
06:35<petn-randall>cra1g321: That is something you will see a lot with fast-moving projects. There's also wordpress in Debian, but there's not LTS release upstream. So Debian backports the security bugfixes and makes sure that package is still usable.
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06:36<petn-randall>cra1g321: There is a rule for Debian that only RC bugs get fixed in stable, there will never be a new upstream release that goes to Debian just for the sake of it.
06:36<petn-randall>(gotta dash, TTYL)
06:36<cra1g321>thanks for the info
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08:13<devil>vortek: use a standalone download manager
08:13<vortek>ok
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08:14<vortek>recommend any?
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08:38<nuovolnx>Sorry, I'm Italian. I do not speak well English. There is a video card that is automatically recognized by debian?
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08:39<bremner>!it
08:39<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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08:39<bremner>well, not sure about "much better", but it's an option.
08:40<nuovolnx>can any one help in this channel?
08:40<bremner>nuovolnx: best support is probably for intel graphics
08:41<nuovolnx>bremner, excuse me, I would enable 3d automatically. Exsist?
08:42<bremner>your best bet is to check the specific card for X.org support.
08:44<nuovolnx>bremner, could you suggest any model?
08:45<bremner>I have Intel, Amd, and Nvidia on different machines. Basic 3D is ok on all of them, but I am not a gamer.
08:46<bremner>it helps not to buy the newest card, and as I said, to check compatibility first.
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08:49<nuovolnx>today I have visited this site https://www.x.org/wiki/ but I don't understand what are the list of model supports completely
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08:54<bremner>nuovolnx: it's organized by driver. Here is the one for nvidia: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/
08:54<bremner>I don't know why this is so hard, to be honest. I guess because there is so many different kinds of hardware
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08:56<nuovolnx>I don't found intel video card dedicated, only motherboard
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09:18<thecat>I have done security upgrade in wheezy:
09:18<thecat>apt-get upgrade
09:18<thecat>which upgraded, among other things, libnss3
09:18<thecat>but now my chromium stopped working
09:19<thecat>ERROR:nss_util.cc(211)] Error initializing NSS without a persistent database: NSS error code: -8023
09:19<thecat>FATAL:nss_util.cc(213)] nss_error=-8023, os_error=0
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09:20<thecat>where can I get the old libnss3 package, so that I can downgrade it back again ?
09:20<thecat>in /var/log/apt/, I have:
09:20<thecat>libnss3:amd64 (3.14.5-1+deb7u8, 3.26-1+debu7u1)
09:21<thecat>so I guess, 3.14.5-1+deb7u8 is the old version
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09:52<EmleyMoor>Is there any good way to get full use of Skype on jessie now?
09:52<cruncher>EmleyMoor, what do you mean with "full use"?
09:52<EmleyMoor>cruncher: video calls
09:53<cruncher>EmleyMoor, what would be "half use" then? :)
09:53<cruncher>skype works if you mean that :)
09:54<EmleyMoor>cruncher: Text and audio only
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09:58<missmbob>web.skype.com works fine
09:59<EmleyMoor>missmbob: No, it works partially
09:59<EmleyMoor>(in a conversation at the moment, video not working)
10:00<missmbob>https://blogs.skype.com/2016/10/17/video-calling-skype-linux-alpha/
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10:01<EmleyMoor>missmbob: Yes, read that
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10:04<arvstark>halo
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10:06<cruncher>EmleyMoor, what doesnt work for you on web.skype.com?
10:06<cruncher>cideo?
10:07<EmleyMoor>Indeed - seems to try but fails
10:09<cruncher>if skype and webskype dont have video for you, i guess the problem is somewhere there, with your video. Do other programs (like cheese, camorama, etc) successfully show video?
10:09<cruncher>@EmleyMoor
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10:09<EmleyMoor>Video works in anything but Skype.
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10:14<cruncher>EmleyMoor, did you check that "Enable Skype Video" is enabled? and can you see the camer device in "Select webcam"?
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10:16<EmleyMoor>I can see the camera in "Select webcam", but where is the other thing? Besides, when I try to enable it I see myself "live" in the corner for a fleeting moment. Can't see the other party and they can't see me.
10:17<cruncher>EmleyMoor, the first option, above "select webcam"
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10:17<cruncher>and you should be able to see you during the time the Video options are open
10:17<EmleyMoor>There are no options above "select webcam"
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10:17<cruncher>what skype version do you have?
10:18<EmleyMoor>Ah, you've crossed over. Hold on.
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10:19<EmleyMoor>Even worse in what I am running. 1.10.0.1
10:19<corrykalam>test
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10:20<cruncher>EmleyMoor, skype 1.10.0.1? didnt know that exists...
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10:20<cruncher>corrykalam, test ok
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10:21<EmleyMoor>Maybe I don't have what you're calling skype
10:21<cruncher>EmleyMoor, aha
10:21<cruncher>wel, i can only help you with the real skype :)
10:22<EmleyMoor>cruncher: Point me to "the real" skype
10:22<cruncher>EmleyMoor, www.skype.com, then click Download Skype
10:22<EmleyMoor>(I believe I had to remove it due to a compatibility issue)
10:23<cruncher>and with real i mean the program, not webskype
10:24<EmleyMoor>And also not... er...
10:25<EmleyMoor>skypeforlinux
10:26<cruncher>yes, skype for linux
10:26<cruncher>what else ;-)
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10:27<EmleyMoor>cruncher: skype for linux as opposed to skypeforlinux for linux
10:27<bremner>o.O
10:27<EmleyMoor>(both are "the program", just different ones)
10:28<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... the video of me seems to be "flipped" - is that intended?
10:28<cruncher>EmleyMoor, i dont really follow, whatever its called, version 4.3.0.37-1_i386 its called
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10:28<cruncher>i think there is only 1 downloadable
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10:29<EmleyMoor>Not sure how I got the tipoff re skypeforlinux but it's genuine and downloadable, just lacking in video support unless the other user is on the same.
10:30<EmleyMoor>skype is 4.3.0.37, skypeforlinux is 1.10.0.1 or so
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10:31<cruncher>EmleyMoor, well, when i download it, it says "Skype for linux" and its 4.3.xxx
10:31<cruncher>i dont know where you see the 1.0xx version
10:31<EmleyMoor>Ah, on the download page: "Find out about early access to Skype for Linux Alpha"
10:31<cruncher>but anyway, install the 4.x
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10:32<EmleyMoor>cruncher: Installed. Will see if it will install on my laptop, because I seem to recall I definitely hit a compatibility issue somewhere.
10:32<cruncher>EmleyMoor, why you click those strange things to find a 1.0x version? :D just click on "download skype", then select debian 7.0 multiarch, then you are done :)
10:33<EmleyMoor>cruncher: Why do you not read the bit about me hitting a compatibility issue?
10:33<cruncher>EmleyMoor, where did you write that?
10:34<EmleyMoor>2 or 3 times over the last 12 minutes, here.
10:34<cruncher>you never mentioned "compatibility issues"
10:35<cruncher>anyway, just remove the 1.0, install 4.3, then it will basically work already
10:35<EmleyMoor>Yes I did, in those very words...
10:35<EmleyMoor>15:22 < EmleyMoor> (I believe I had to remove it due to a compatibility issue)
10:36<cruncher>yes, speaking about the past, not that you have one now
10:36<cruncher>EmleyMoor, doesnt matter, we're not here to argue :)
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10:37<EmleyMoor>(hmm... odd definition of "never")
10:37<EmleyMoor>Anyway, it's gone back on my laptop successfully too.
10:37<cruncher>EmleyMoor, you are right, never was wrong :)
10:37<EmleyMoor>Leaving skypeforlinux on as
10:38<cruncher>so you have 1.0 + 4.3 installed now?
10:38<EmleyMoor>... well is not a problem... but will continue to use skype (4.3...)
10:38<EmleyMoor>Yes
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10:40<cruncher>and on skype 4.3 the video is flipped?
10:40<EmleyMoor>https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34656/more-information-about-skype-for-linux-alpha
10:40<EmleyMoor>cruncher: In options, yes. Not tried it for real yet.
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11:30<danielsh>I've downloaded a *.deb file and would like to verify it (PGP wise) prior to installation, how do I do that?
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11:33<_0>howdoyoudo,everybody!
11:33<_0>why flashplugin-nonfree is stated on some sites as outdated?
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11:34<_0>it's time to update)
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11:34<EmleyMoor>_0: It's not possible to update it.
11:35<_0>EmleyMoor, pitty
11:35<EmleyMoor>Not even sure what the situation is with Chrome now - that had a later version, of sorts. Flash is mostly irrelevant these days anyway
11:36<rearnd>Yep, HTML5 is taking over :)
11:36<EmleyMoor>Ah... it looks like there's going to be some support still - but probably only in Chrome
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11:38<_0>chrome is whistling my addresses to their db:)
11:38<EmleyMoor>rearnd: Tried running update-flashplugin-nonfree?
11:38<EmleyMoor>Oops, _0 even
11:38<rearnd>@EmelyMoor You confused me for a second xD
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11:39<missmbob>EmleyMoor: that doesn't work anymore
11:39<EmleyMoor>missmbob: Well, OK - just a hunch
11:39<missmbob>EmleyMoor: see bug #841373
11:39<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/841373 in pepperflashplugin-nonfree (open): «mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory»; severity: critical; opened: 2016-10-20; last modified: 2016-10-21.
11:39<EmleyMoor>http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2469886/adobe-flash-goes-crawling-back-to-linux-for-some-security - seems broader than I thought
11:40<missmbob>yeah but npapi flash is v11. ancient
11:40<EmleyMoor>missmbob: That's pepperflashplugin, not flashplugin
11:40<danielsh>... looks like the answer to my question is that to trust the .deb file I need to get the InRelease file too.
11:40<EmleyMoor>missmbob: Yes, of course it is/was
11:40<EmleyMoor>Never clear what some of these announcements mean/are going to mean
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11:41<john>hi
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11:42<john>hello
11:42<john>is any one there
11:42<danielsh>yes
11:42<danielsh>!ask
11:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:43<john>where are you from?
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11:44<missmbob>john: this is for debian support. it's not a social channel. for that there's #debian-offtopic
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11:46<john>how to control nearby android mobiles?
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11:49<missmbob>also offtopic, but http://www.vysor.io/ is pretty great.
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11:51<john>stranger mobile
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11:52<EmleyMoor>john: Don't interfere with strangers' kit
11:53<missmbob>john: this isn't a hacking channel. debian support. move on
11:53<john>ok
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11:55<luca_>hi guys. Is this the right place to ask for support?
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11:57<bender>hi
11:57<bender>bye
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11:57<luca_>I consider myself an exerienced user but I cannot fix a compilation problem related to some stack protector flag :(
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12:05<narcan>luca_> hi guys. Is this the right place to ask for support?
12:05<narcan>Yes
12:05<narcan>:)
12:06<narcan>just ask your question
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12:15<_0>okiy,lit's coll et shitwore)
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12:16<abrotman>eh?
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12:30<luca_>narcan: thanks
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12:30<luca_>well, happened that I am getting a "Dummy Output" card in PulseAudio after running a (non sense) alsactl store
12:30<luca_>no idea what happened
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12:31<luca_>the only way I think could fix is to recompile the dirver for my chip audio
12:31<luca_>that I am going to post
12:31<grawity>what kind of chip is it that you even needed to compile the driver manually for anyway?
12:31<luca_>Realtek ALC268
12:32<luca_>I know there are some options to add to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base or /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
12:32<luca_>I have tried many but didn't fixed
12:32<luca_>I also purged and reinstalled both alsa and pulseaudio
12:33<luca_>and also delete the alsactl configuration that broke everything in the first place
12:33<luca_>sadly no luck
12:33<luca_>:(
12:33<luca_>and I have found out I cannot even recompile the driver, this is the error I am getting:
12:33<luca_>https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/123
12:33<luca_>(that is not my kernel version thought)
12:34<luca_>that isvery briefly what made me spent all my afternoon in front of the pc with no joy
12:34<_0>luca_, diver,dirver,driver - shitworre)
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12:36<luca_>_0 ??
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12:44<[alyssa]>Is running debian testing (not unstable) on a personal computer that's connected to the internet but not handling anythnig sensitive a bad idea?
12:45<grawity>not really
12:45<grawity>I mean, don't most testers just run it on their own PCs anyway?
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12:46<grawity>it's not *very* unstable, it still gets some security patches
12:46<grawity>"not very unstable" in terms of crashiness, that is
12:47<[alyssa]>for my primary computer anyway. I don't particularly want to do testing (although I'd certainly file bug reports if I come across them :-) ); mostly just irked with compiling packages from source when stable's version is too old
12:47<grawity>for that I'd try backports first
12:48<grawity>though, tbh, my own PCs are mixed testing/sid/Arch >_>
12:48<[alyssa]>risqué
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12:49<bremner>grawity: on one computer??
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12:56<unixuser>I have a kernel oops with the nvidia driver when it starts up: http://pastebin.ca/3734039 card: gt730. Happens when X turns on, screens go blank
12:57<r4f_debian>Hi all, I had a trouble with Slackware yesterday, for its upgraded deleted grub that was installed by Debian GNU/Linux to permit dual boot between the two systems. Thanks to somiaj, I could repair the grub, and now I'm able to boot Debian again
12:58<r4f_debian>I just would like how to upgrade grub, in the same release that was before, installed by Debian
12:58<jelly>unixuser: which debian release is this and which kernel version?
12:59<mtn>r4f_debian: boot into debian, reinstall grub. grub-install /dev/sda is the command, usually
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12:59<unixuser>jelly: Linux version 2.6.24-32, X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90, module-init-tools version 3.3-pre11, ldd --version : ldd (GNU libc) 2.7, /usr/local/lib/libvdpau (version 0.2)
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13:00<jelly>unixuser: oh, it's you.
13:00<unixuser>jelly: well now we know it's a kernel oops
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13:00<unixuser>so what do I do now
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13:00<unixuser>nvidia claims these versions are good and fine
13:00<r4f_debian>Hi mtn, nice to meet you again ! Please, mtn, which command sequence should I use ? as root: 'grub-install /dev/sda' ?
13:01<mtn>r4f_debian: yes, that is what I said ;)
13:01<jelly>unixuser: you're running a horribly old ubuntu 8.04, #debian only supports Debian users. If you install Debian and have a similar issue, we can try to help.
13:01<r4f_debian>just to confirm, ok mtn, thanks for Great Support and help !
13:01<unixuser>jelly: im running debian woody on this laptop
13:01<unixuser>I've been a debian user for over a decade
13:02<jelly>unixuser: debian 3.0 (woody) is not supported any more, and that's not a woody kernel.
13:02<unixuser>yea because you worship at the cult of systemd now
13:02<unixuser>woody was the last good debian
13:02<unixuser>the very last one
13:03<mtn>haha
13:03<unixuser>clearly this is a kernel issue that is cross platform
13:03-!-mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ
13:03-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*@ool-457ed156.dyn.optonline.net] by jelly
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13:04<jelly>unixuser: get a supported OS, or pay someone to fix this legacy 2008 system if you can't upgrade the OS
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13:07<r4f_debian>unixuser, Debian Jessie is almost perfect, just is not perfect, for perfection doesn't exist in this world, but it's better and much more stable than any other unix-like system you know everywhere. And Support here is High Quality. Why don't you come back to Debian and forget the others ?
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13:09<cra1g321>unixuser is the guy/girl who got recently banned ? lol
13:09<r4f_debian>I've been testing and comparing the results between Debian performance overall and other systems, other Linux Distros, BSD Systems and Illumos Systems. Debian is much more complete and High Quality than any other one you test
13:10<jelly>cra1g321: Ubuntu 8.04 and a 2014 card and the latest nvidia driver and so fucking rude -> +b
13:10<_0>ya vate fur windoze)
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13:12<_0>bat skipu sux on sabj(
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13:18<r4f_debian>mtn, Please, just a doubt here: 'grub-install /dev/sda' performs itself grub upgrade too ? For, I have a grub installed here, only it looks not being the same release that was when installed Debian Jessie with original grub
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13:27<mtn>r4f_debian: it installs the grub of the os you are booting. so, in this case, debian. isn't that what you want?
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13:28<thomasross>hi, how can I get python 3.5 on debian jessie?
13:28<thomasross>it doesn't seem to be in backports
13:29<cruncher>r4f_debian, no, grub-install does not also update-grub, if thats what you mean
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13:29<r4f_debian>mtn, I tried to reinstall grub by Debian media but couldn't do it, so I could reinstall it through slackware, but it looks oldest release than grub installed by Debian installation
13:30<mtn>r4f_debian: can you boot debian? yes or no?
13:30<r4f_debian>I see cruncher, that is exactly what I needed to know. Thanks !
13:30<r4f_debian>yes, I can
13:30<mtn>r4f_debian: when you are in debian, you can install or update grub of debian. make sense?
13:30<r4f_debian>just would like to know if there is possibility to have my original grub, that is provided by Debian Installer
13:30<mtn>r4f_debian: you mean a grub that does not know about any other oses? is that it?
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13:31<r4f_debian>yes, mtn, that's it :)
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13:31<jelly>,v python3.5
13:31<mtn>r4f_debian: why on earth would you want that? don't you want it to show the installed oses?
13:31<judd>Package: python3.5 on amd64 -- stretch: 3.5.2-6+b1; sid: 3.5.2-6+b1
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13:32<jelly>thomasross: no, it's not. lots of system tools use the python interpreter, it's not likely to have a backport
13:32<cruncher>r4f_debian, see what mtn said, but even if you couldnt boot debian, you could boot the installer in rescue mode and reinstall grub from there
13:32<r4f_debian>pragmatically speaking, I understand you, but this grub seems to be oldest than before.... :(
13:32<mtn>r4f_debian: what do you mean by old? please explain
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13:33<jelly>thomasross: you can build your own in a separate prefix (like /opt/python3.5, maybe) or use a stretch chroot
13:33<r4f_debian>it doesn't look the same as when grub was installed by Debian installer during Debian Installation, that's what I want to mean
13:34<mtn>r4f_debian: oh, you mean the background or something?
13:34<r4f_debian>don't they have different releases ? Grub by 2010 is the same as grub in 2016 ?
13:34<cruncher>not the same = old? :)
13:34<thomasross>jelly: alright, thanks
13:34<r4f_debian>perhaps It would be better showing you a picture of new grub installed here
13:34<jelly>r4f_debian: you were already told how to reinstall debian's grub
13:34<mtn>r4f_debian: of course grub changes, but if you install grub from debian, it is the grub from debian. same version
13:35<jelly>now go do it
13:36<r4f_debian>and that's what I want again, mtn, grub from debian, not from slackware, but thanks for instructions, I will apply them to see if I get the same grub as when it was originally installed, during this Debian Installation :)
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13:37<r4f_debian>jelly, I'm just trying to explain my issue here, ok ?
13:37<mtn>r4f_debian: do what jelly told you to do
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13:37<r4f_debian>Thanks, mtn
13:37<r4f_debian>Bye !
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13:37<mtn>yikes. the eternal beginner?
13:37<jelly>mtn: it wasn't me, it was you!
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13:38<mtn>jelly: ah, I thought it was an ongoing discussion
13:38<cruncher>i think it was me :D
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13:44<imperia>hello. do somebody know solution for automounted NFS volumes hang the system at shutdown? or how to avoid it?
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13:53<cruncher>imperia, "avoid" maybe see into autofs, or you try the retry/soft parameter in fstab
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13:55<jelly>imperia: which debian release, which init system?
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13:59*jelly vaguely remembers some ordering fixes in systemd for nfs around 8.2 or 8.3 point release
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14:04<imperia>cruncher: i red about that. but i saw that soft is flawed by design and should not be used.
14:04<imperia>jelly: testing. systemd
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14:05<imperia>i think the problem is related to systemd.. shutting down network before unmounting nfs volumes
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14:15<nicklas>Anyone know where CrossOver saves your wow files? as i am trying to install addons
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14:19<r4f_debian>Hi all
14:19<cruncher>hi again
14:19<r4f_debian>Hi cruncher ! ?)
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14:21<r4f_debian>mtn, thanks for Support, thanks to your helpl and Support I could fix my issue here; In fact, the grub provided by the Official Debian repository is a newer version - 2.2 beta 2 - 22 with the Debian themes and green color tone, while the one I had before installed via slackware was 2.00 and monochromatic color
14:21<vortek>are there any guides to setting up a debian Ran dusk???
14:21<r4f_debian>Thanks for patience and Great Support mtn !:)
14:21<mtn>r4f_debian: welcome
14:21<r4f_debian>:)
14:21<vortek>i mean ram disk
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14:24<musca>!tmpfs
14:24<dpkg>tmpfs is a file system which keeps all files in virtual memory; you can change its default size by editing /etc/default/tmpfs. Temporary filesystems can be mounted with a line such as "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0" in /etc/fstab. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
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14:27<jelly>imperia: oh, then ask in #debian-next, not here on Freenode network, but on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org)
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14:28<musca>welcome on oftc, jelly :)
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14:31<vortek>musca: thanxs, I read the docs.. Will this spead up my boot time?
14:32<vortek>Cuase thats what I'm trying to do
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14:34<lindi->vortek: depends on how you intend to use it of course
14:36<vortek>im just trying to make my system boot faster, I read some linux guides that use ram disk to achieve this, but there generic guides, not debian specific
14:36<cruncher>imperia, then use the fstab options _netdev,x-systemd.automount
14:37<cruncher>imperia, nevermind, see debian-next
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14:38<vortek>here a guide I might use , it's for ubuntu so it should work with debian, just wondering if i should use this guide?
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14:40<r4f_debian>Bye mtn, cruncher, musca, vortek, have you a nice weekend ! God Bless you All !
14:40<r4f_debian>Bye !
14:40<vortek>bye
14:40<vortek>:)
14:40<r4f_debian>Bye vortek :). See you !
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14:45<vortek>musca so that tempfs guide will tell me how to set up ram disk ?
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14:55<mathiu>how do i ignore some packages with apt?
14:55<mathiu>i mean, since the download
14:56<vortek>so https://wiki.debian.org/RamDisk is not much help, it does not show you any thing , but talks about advantages of ram disj
14:56<musca>https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization#Reduction_of_SSD_write_frequency_via_RAMDISK
14:56<vortek>thanxs
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15:02<vortek>hrm I'm confused.. that last link does not look like itts ment to speed up boot time, is it?
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15:03<lindi->vortek: I don't think it helps with boot time at all
15:04<vortek>whats it do?
15:04<lindi->vortek: it reduces SSD writes?
15:04<vortek>yea
15:04<lindi->vortek: are you using an SSD?
15:04<vortek>no
15:04<vortek>not yeat
15:04<lindi->vortek: well, get one, that's the easiest way to speed up boot
15:05<vortek>i know
15:05<vortek>but ram disk is a method to use too
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15:08<lindi->vortek: recomended by which guide?
15:08<vortek>im trying to found them but there arre a lot
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15:12<cruncher>vortek, i dont think having a ram disk will speed up boottime, as the data has to be copied first to it. Unless there is some program that does a lot of read/writes cycles at boot time therefore would be faster from that point on from a ramdisk(i dont know what that could be, if it exists maybe a sql db?)
15:12<vortek>http://www.hecticgeek.com/2015/12/create-ram-disk-ubuntu-linux/
15:12<vortek>dont know
15:13<cruncher>the best option is to buy an ssd, and maybe clean up uneeded services at boot
15:13<cruncher>but unless you have a lot of them also not really worth doing
15:16<vortek>k
15:16<lindi->cruncher: this guide does not mention anything about boot speed
15:16<lindi->I mean vortek ^
15:16<vortek>ohh
15:17<lindi->vortek: but http://www.hecticgeek.com/2013/05/using-preload-ubuntu-13-04/ might
15:17<vortek>cool
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15:18<lindi->vortek: but I still recommend using SSD and systemd-bootchart to see where exactly the time is spent on your system.
15:18<vortek>cool
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15:19<[alyssa]>Can someone explain why I get such a feeling of satisfaction opening the installer successfully? <3
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15:30<p0rk0ff>hi, why if i create a new initramfs right now, it differs from the one created automatically? using the same update-initramfs line in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools
15:30<ITAL0>hello
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15:32<ITAL0>my chromium is locked, version 37.0.2062
15:32<canudo>i need a link to download the windows 7 without the activator code....enybody....please help
15:32<p0rk0ff>canudo, hope you are not serious
15:33<canudo>i am.....
15:33<canudo>but....why u say that
15:33<ITAL0>how may I re-install a package without cache .deb files ?
15:33<ITAL0>if I try to re-install chromium , the system take it from somewhere here , with out download
15:34<canudo>look....i love xubuntu but his is for a laptop of a fiend....he is poor and im triyng to help him
15:34<ITAL0>and return locked
15:34<canudo>please p0rk0ff
15:34<canudo>please
15:35<cruncher>canudo, i wonder why you come with such a request to a debian channel
15:35<canudo>i know that is the windows 8...10....but i need the windows 7....
15:35<p0rk0ff>canudo, this is not about unbuntu, nor windows, here the subject is debian and only debian
15:35<canudo>i dont know whts debian....
15:35<canudo>sorry
15:36<cruncher>we dont know whats windows... sorry
15:36<awal1>!ops canudo
15:36<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: awal1 complains about: canudo
15:36<canudo>ok.....
15:36<canudo>ok
15:36<canudo>sorry
15:37<canudo>im starting with this OS and i dont have a good english....im portuguese....and this is just a help request
15:37<[alyssa]>canudo: you can torrent a debian iso, for free, no activation needed. we have version 7 available, yeah. though 8 is more recent
15:37<p0rk0ff>canudo, ask on the windows channel
15:37<cruncher>[alyssa] :D
15:38<canudo>thats my problem....my personnal server....blocks the torrents
15:38<[alyssa]>nw, we have HTTP and FTP available too
15:38<canudo>thats the reason that i cant
15:38<ITAL0>ok
15:39<[alyssa]>ITAL0: IIRC there's a force option or somwthing, lemme look
15:39<canudo>alyssa....excuse me.....but have u said that ....in your site is available
15:39<canudo>i just need a link....to get it.....
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15:40<[alyssa]>ITAL0: maybe apt-get clean?
15:40<cruncher>canudo, here: http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian-cd/8.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.6.0-amd64-CD-1.iso
15:40<canudo>im doing a good action....like i said....is a laptop of a friend of mine and he is porr....i feel petty....im triyng .....just that...help him
15:41<ITAL0>[alyssa], yes, I did it, I re-install it
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15:41<canudo>cruncher ....thank U
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15:42<ITAL0>I hope chromium haven't some stuff of vulnerability, didn't happen before chromium lock completly
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15:43<[alyssa]>canudo: In all seriousness: This IRC channel is about the Debian operating system. We do not support other systems; they have other channels. As well, we do not support illegal activity, such as torrenting proprietary software.
15:44<[alyssa]>That being said, Debian *is* a free system which works great for many people -- all of us are happy users. We'd love to have you (and your friend) join! :-)
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15:46<canudo>thank you all for your help....and i m sorry for disturb....
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15:47<canudo>but if i understood...you maintain servers or systems....are you like bots?
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15:48<vortek>no
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15:49<vortek>were all mostly human
15:49<vortek>I say that loosely ;)
15:49<ITAL0>http://picpaste.com/pics/Istantanea_-_29102016_-_23_48_12-l6YVi2b1.1477770561.png
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15:50<[alyssa]>vortek: what about cruncher?
15:50<vortek>heh hes a hybrid
15:50<vortek>;)
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15:50<ITAL0>I un-install it , re-download , re-install and it's ever locked
15:50<ITAL0>is it a bug ? pls answer me
15:50*cruncher feels unsafe on this planet now that he has been discovered
15:51<vortek>lol
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15:53<pablo_>hello
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15:57<[alyssa]>pablo_: hi
15:57<ITAL0>[alyssa], hi
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15:58<ITAL0>[alyssa], impossible to install chrome proprietary version... something is damegaed
15:58<ITAL0>[alyssa], strage
15:59<[alyssa]>ITAL0: uhhhh.... switch to chromium / firefox? :D
15:59<ITAL0>[alyssa], I use iceweals and chromium
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16:00<ITAL0>I must up-grade the system I thing
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16:01<ITAL0>however is very strage... chromium lock in this mode
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16:03<ITAL0>ok, I reboot and install debian 8 I'm hungry ; how may I install debian in text mode only ? excuse me but I don't remenber ; by default debian install gnome again ?!
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16:03<[alyssa]>what's the correct way to disable a kernel module from GRUB?
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16:04<pablo_>ITAL0, yes, it is
16:04<cruncher>[alyssa], try modulename.blacklist=yes
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16:05<cruncher>or modprobe.blacklist=modulename
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16:05<[alyssa]>as a kernel parameter or a GRUB command?
16:05<cruncher>paramater
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16:07<[alyssa]>cruncher: I'm still getting errors booting from that module :/
16:07<cruncher>which module?
16:07<[alyssa]>b43 in this case (missing [nonfree] firmware that I didn't install in the installer mostly out of laziness because I expected it to simply disable the module)
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16:10<cruncher>[alyssa], probably its loaded by bluetooth
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16:10<cruncher>i think its a bt device?
16:10<[alyssa]>seems to be a known issue
16:10<[alyssa]>cruncher: wifi
16:11<[alyssa]>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/950295
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16:11<[alyssa]>(Not sure what operating system they're running. Seems to be some sort of debian witchcract derivative. Hmmm :P)
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16:50<[alyssa]>I put the boot on verbose and it shows [OK] Started GNOME Display Manager. It still shows the console logs -- what's up? :/
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16:51<[alyssa]>Some searching suggests a driver issue, but I'd expect some sort of error about that
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17:13<jeep>[alyssa]: get a shell try startx -- :2 migt give a better error message
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17:14<[alyssa]>jeep: X is crashing
17:14<[alyssa]>\o/
17:15<[alyssa]>fails at modesetting
17:15<[alyssa]>suppose I could workaround it with just using the framebuffer
17:16<Paerox>I have a Samba share with read/write access for one user on one share. Now I want to give guests read only access to the same share. How is this done?
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17:18<Paul>hello
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17:19<Paul>I install debian 8 now
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17:21<Guest11>to delete the dvd from repository , must I edit /etc/apt/sources.list and delete the dvd entry ?
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17:21<missmbob>yes. then apt-get update
17:22<Paul^^>ok I did it. the install process was little slow 'cause by default the susstem install libreoffice math, and download the updates
17:23<Paul^^>I choosen expert mode in txt mode
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17:24<Paul^^>I'm using a fast pc with a mechanic hard disk
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17:26<Paul^^>by default only two repository are enables in souces.list
17:27<Paul^^>is it correct no ?
17:28<missmbob>!jessie sources.list
17:28<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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17:28<Paul^^>!jessie sources.list
17:28<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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17:35<Paul^^>xscreensaver-data-extra:
17:35<Paul^^> Dipende: netpbm but it is not installable
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17:36<missmbob>then you messed up your sources.list. paste it on paste.debian.net
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17:38<Paul^^>http://paste.debian.net/890829/
17:39<Paul^^>could be right
17:39<Paul^^>3 repository
17:40<missmbob>Paul^^: delete everything you have
17:40<missmbob>Paul^^: make it look *exactly* like this paste.debian.net/890831/
17:40<Paul^^>ok
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17:44<Paul^^>ok ... ; root@debian8:/home/pablo# apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ; and now I'll wait a little
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17:44<Paul^^>debian number 1
17:45<Paul^^>it's strange sometime, anarchy , but big support and big distribution
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17:46<Paul^^>I used ubuntu in past, but I don't like much it ; it's too much like windows , and too much commercial
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17:46<Paul^^>debian is more serious , and more stable
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17:47<[alyssa]>I'm in the process of installing Debian testing on an older MacBook Pro with two graphics card, one integrated (Intel) and one external (ATI/AMD; seems to be supported by radeon). When I boot, GNOME claims to start, but I'm stuck at the kernel log; I can disable X and use textmode with some quirks. If I try to startx manually, X segfaults during modesetting. Any ideas?
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17:48<missmbob>!tell [alyssa] about debian-next
17:48<Paul^^>[alyssa], do u want boot in txt mode ?
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17:49<Paul^^>I think is the old runlevel no ?
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17:52<Paul^^>!tell
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18:07<Paul^^>!nvidia
18:07<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
18:07<missmbob>Paul^^: you can /msg the bot
18:07<Paul^^>ok
18:07<[alyssa]>!radeon
18:07<dpkg>Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>.
18:07<[alyssa]>oo fancu
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18:10<Paul^^>what is firefox esr ?
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18:10<Paul^^>it tell me version is not update
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18:11<Paul^^>45.4.0 ESR ---> 49.0.2
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18:12<missmbob>esr is extended support release
18:12<jmcnaught>Paul^^: firefox-esr is the enterprise support release, sort of an LTS version of firefox that Debian uses for stable release
18:12<Paul^^>what may I do ? Install 49.0.2 manually or keep 45.4.0 ESR ?
18:13<jmcnaught>!mdn
18:13<dpkg>For stable releases, newer versions of Firefox, Icedove and Iceape can be found at http://mozilla.debian.net/ ; you will want the "release" repository. For users of testing and unstable, updated packages are normally in <experimental>; only Extended Support Release (ESR) versions are suitable for release in <stable> so only those versions can be uploaded to unstable.
18:13<jmcnaught>Paul^^: i just use firefox-esr, but ^^ has a way of getting firefox release branch
18:14<Paul^^>I install chromium too for flash player it's better ; sorry but I must test sometime some site with flash under debian ; I have a vm too with win7 & win8
18:14<Paul^^>I keep esr
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18:20<Paul^^>last thing : I need to make a pc as a wifi access point to see what stuff of packets trought-put ; there is a little distribution ready ? I mean in txt mode only too
18:21<Paul^^>to use ipfw firewall and sniffer as tcpdump
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18:27<[alyssa]>gah this makes no sense
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18:29<Paul^^>bye peoples ; thx
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18:34<[alyssa]>OK, new problem truly deserving of 'wat': GNOME Is running in fb1, I think. My monitor is only outputing fb0. if i switch vconsoles to where I startx'd, it freezes until I switch vconsoles again (but media keys adjust brightness, etc.)
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18:37<[alyssa]>...I can even *hear* GNOME running
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18:56<[alyssa]>\o/ finally got GNOME to work. so much witchcraft involved this is bound to break at any moment
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19:01<jmcnaught>[alyssa]: what was the problem?
19:01<[alyssa]>jmcnaught: Idk, never solved it
19:01<[alyssa]>but switching to fbdev instead of intel and/or radeon made it load
19:02<[alyssa]>(Still want to sort out, you know, actually getting hardware acceleration though)
19:02<jmcnaught>[alyssa]: looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log might yield some clues (or one of the older ones)
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19:04<[alyssa]>No devices deteced / No screens found, maybe
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19:29<santexnik>hi directory apeard in my home folder on its own
19:29<santexnik>how do i check if there is a backdoor on the system
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19:30<santexnik>directory like hkguy768
19:30<santexnik>hjguy768 even
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19:36<santexnik> can anyone see if there anything unfamiliar https://paste.debian.net/890848/
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19:54<santexnik>is there a command that can show me recently deleted file
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19:54<santexnik>or directory
19:54<santexnik>not looking to recover it looking just to see the exact name of that dir
19:54<santexnik>was located in my home folder
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20:57<Arroz>hi could someone help me to get my wireless card working?
20:57<Arroz>I've tried may things including compiling it
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20:59<Arroz9000>Could someone help to get my wireless card woking? Ive tryied many things inccludding compiling it
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21:14<Arroz>Could someone help me to get my wireless card working?
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21:17<jeep>Arroz: what card is it?
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22:21<Arroz9000>Hey could someone elp me to get my wifi working ? Ive compiled it, installe the new kernel and still nothing
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22:43<[alyssa]>the version of GNOME packaged in stretch looks really nice.. wonder if I can backport this :P
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22:47<jmcnaught>[alyssa]: that would likely involve backporting so many packages that you might as well go to stretch
22:47<jmcnaught>the zen of debian stable is stuff doesn't change for a couple years at a time
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23:34<handel>does anyone know why freenode cannot be connected to from Houston, TX ?
23:34<handel>i had to install gnusense to get connected
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