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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-11-04

---Logopened Fri Nov 04 00:00:28 2016
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02:42-!-faw is "Felipe Augusto van de Wiel" on @#cathedral #debconf #debian #debian-apt #debian-bugs #debian-devel-br #debian-i18n #debian-l10n-br #debian-mentors #debian-mirrors #debian-qa #debian-www @#funlabs
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04:18<hello>hi there
04:18-!-hello is now known as Guest556
04:19<Guest556>I have quick question about linux on phone ... do i still need Android os to install Kali or I can wipe all and kali linux will allow me to call and msgs and all other phone stuff
04:20<jm_>!kali
04:20<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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05:13<Echoz>Guest556: You won't have much success with that, even what I've heard of about installing desktop linux on phones is just LXC with an android X server
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05:15<Echoz>Guest556: All of the desktop environments are meant to be used with a mouse and keyboard. Even the "touch-oriented" ones like Gnome and Unity aren't actually that good with a touch screen, at least not in stable
05:16<Echoz>Unity and KDE are working on a phone interface, though
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05:39<ap4lmtree->is there something in debian that is tailored for having a nas box?
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05:41<jm_>what would that something be?
05:44<jm_>or do...
05:44<duclicsic>ap4lmtree-: a nas is just a computer with lots of storage and some kind of service that allows you to access the file system over the network, a 'network file system' if you will.
05:45<duclicsic>all you need to do is pick your service and install/configure to your liking
05:46<jm_>if instead you want some sort of management interface, look at openmediavalut (a debian based nas distribution)
05:46<jm_>vault too
05:46<duclicsic>there are more complete packages like openmediavault .. yes.
05:46<duclicsic>too late there :)
05:46<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: NFS works just great
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05:48<ap4lmtree->i have a seagate personal cloud, and they disabled ssh, so i am either going to buy a personal cloud from netgear, or i will install debian on it, but once i install debian, i dont know if i could make it act much like nas os
05:49<gr_wity>what's a 'personal cloud'
05:49<duclicsic>a computer
05:51<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: I run Debian on my storage server, works great. But it's kind of useful to know what features you expect from it
05:52<ap4lmtree->well, i can run btsync right, is there a way to browse the directories of it through the web or so?
05:52<ap4lmtree->something that looks similiar to nas os maybe
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05:53<ap4lmtree->okay, so mainly i would like to run btsync and also be able to browse the filesystem through a web daemon running on it
05:53<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: I've heard of OwnCloud, but personally I've never tried it, I only use NFS and rsync
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05:54<ap4lmtree->okay, i guess ill install debian on this and so i can still use it and save money, then ill install btsync and owncloud on it
05:55<Echoz>I think btsync and owncloud are kind of the same thing, i'd suggest instead looking at each of them and picking the one that suits you the best
05:57<luku>hey there! on my freshly installed minimal debian stretch + mariadb + nginx + php7-fpm the php-service won't start, before I type something into the login box and press ENTER (or wait ~1 minute). "blame" shows 1.3sec for mysql and e.g next 1minute 19 for php7. in dmesg i see 6 seconds for the boot and then after [interrestingly] 1 minute 18 "random: nonblocking pool is initialized.
05:57<luku>(as said - if I type something into login/username + ENTER, it finishes immediately). any ideas? I'm really confused right now...
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05:59<jm_>for help with stretch try #debian-next
05:59<jm_>as a guess, if it's related to something related to random devices, you may be out of entropy
06:03<ap4lmtree->Echoz, with rysnc do you sync with amazon cloud drive or drop box or anything like that?
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06:05<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: no, i just use rsync over ssh to/from my server, mostly for backups, NFS for daily use or centralizing storage between servers
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06:06<ap4lmtree->what if youw ant to run a ftp server, what would you use?
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06:07<luku>ok, thanks for the hints. I think it's not stretch related, but I can't prove it ^^
06:07<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: I've used vsftpd for that in the past, but I don't have any use for ftp anymore ... or actually I might have one running somewhere
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06:07<luku>as typing on the keyboard is solving it, I also thought that this might generate enough data for random-#-generator.
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06:11<Echoz>luku: connect your mouse with a long usb cable and put it in the dryer.
06:12<luku>:D nice idea
06:12<Echoz>:)
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06:14<luku>chicken-and-egg problem. the PC is mounted on a self-driving robot. the movement of the robot would create enough entropy, but in order to drive, the PC must be fully booted :-| :D
06:15<Echoz>luku: haha :) well see if you can get rng-tools, it might help
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06:16<luku>so not enough entropy could really prevent php from starting? (as it wants to initialize its internal random number generator?)
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06:17<Echoz>luku: it seems possible, seeing as keyboard input makes it start
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06:18<luku> Process: 1709 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/rng-tools start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
06:18<luku>BAH...no luck today :D
06:18<luku>"Cannot find a hardware RNG device to use"
06:19<Echoz>luku: same... not sure why
06:19<Echoz>and I'm on debian 8
06:20<ap4lmtree->Echoz, what kind of box setup is your debian nas server?
06:20<ap4lmtree->i mean what kind of hardware is it
06:21<grove>At work we use haveged (which in danish reads like "garden goat", so we had a good laugh when we found it) to provide extra entropy for some of our servers
06:22<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: let me check the model of the cpu
06:22<luku>echoz: goole says RNG hw is often in TPM module. I cannot see TPM in my bios. it's a intel baytrail atom
06:24<Echoz>luku: Yeah, that's right, i probably have disabled mine
06:25<peter1138>urandom (once seeded) is ample...
06:25<peter1138>but yeah, lots of hardware does not have an RNG device
06:25<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: 2 xeon e5420s and some cheap desktop hard drives in raid1 arrays is what I use at home
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06:27<luku>i tried "haveged". no change :-(
06:27<luku>[ 6.591524] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): enp3s0: link becomes ready
06:27<luku>[ 29.055770] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
06:27<luku>@29sec I hammered on the keyboard :)
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06:29<ap4lmtree->Echoz, no i mean, is it a regular desktop or is it portable or so?
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06:31<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: it's a server
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06:32<Echoz>ap4lmtree-: but it's x86 so it could just as well have been a normal desktop, if that's what you mean
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06:35<sue>I have a debian vm with xfce, trying to figure out how to exit xfce and get a command line
06:36<sue>i want to get out of the window mgr for a bit
06:36<sue>logging out shows me another login dialogue with no option other than to log in again
06:36<sue>i tried xfce4-session-logout
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06:37<sue>i got error message: "could not get owner of name 'org.xfce.SessionManager': no such name"
06:37<sue>help?
06:37<sue>(debian 8)
06:38<sue>debian 8
06:38<Echoz>sue: Try to press ctrl+alt+f1, and then ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to graphical
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06:38<luku>HA! fixed it :) -> use "HRNGDEVICE=/dev/urandom" for rng-tools and random is immediately initialized after boot
06:38<Echoz>luku: Great!
06:39<luku>thanks guys!
06:39<sue>Echoz: no luck. I'm running debian in virtualbox on a mac
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06:39<sue>i could swear this used to be easy
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06:40<sue>have tried killing xfce processes but it all ends up with xfce graphical login
06:41<jm_>ensure ctrl-alt-f1 is passed to the guest
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06:44<duclicsic>sue: killing xfce doesn't work because the display manager is still running, you'd have to kill lightdm
06:45<duclicsic>e.g. systemctl stop lightdm.service
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06:47<sue>i did that, got a blank black screen
06:47<sue>i suppose if i stopped it from restarting, then rebooted maybe?
06:48<duclicsic>hmm, i'd have expected that to work, must be something specific to it being a vm
06:48<sue>:-(
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06:48<duclicsic>but if you were to disable the lightdm service entirely it may just work, not sure
06:49<sue>i had trouble figuring out how to make sure ctrl-alt-f1 was passed to the guest too
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06:49<sue>i am kinda surprised because up until now i think it was trivial to get out of a wm and down to a cmd line
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06:49<sue>maybe it was always difficult on a vm and i didn't notice
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06:54<jm_>you could simply change the default.target
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06:55<Echoz>sue: I had lunch, so I wasn't able to answer. Try ctrl+alt+fn+f1, macs normally set the function keys to do other things unless you hold down fn
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06:55<sue>ha, thanks Echoz -- I should have guessed that one on my own
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06:56<Echoz>sue: good thing it worked!
06:57<Echoz>sue: now you can run systemctl stop lightdm, when you ran it last time you'd just remain on the empty display where it was
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07:00<sue>thanks!
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07:48<sue>I've been trying to figure out a sane way to resize my /var partition this morning
07:48<sue>I'm beginning to think the best way forward is to just create a new VM :-)
07:48<sue>was hoping to avoid that but it's probably beyond me
07:50<peter1138>if it's a already vm, you could just add another virtual disk and migrate /var to that
07:53<Echoz>sue: resizing can be hard if you have to shrink
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08:06<peter1138>oh yeah, i assumed bigger
08:08<Echoz>peter1138: well sometimes you have to shrink one partition in order to make another bigger, so the best solution if you can is to add another virtual drive to the VM
08:09<Echoz>if /var is something you expect might grow that makes it easier to increase the size later, as well
08:09<sue>sorry - lunch
08:10<sue>it needs to grow, so putting it on another virtual disk may be the best way
08:10<sue>when i created the partitioning, i assumed it would mainly be logfiles, but docker is putting tons of stuff in it
08:11<Echoz>sue: I believe docker by default stores the containers in /var, much like libvirt would store VMs there
08:12<sue>yes so it appears
08:12<sue>i've just started a new contract and the company is making heavy use of docker
08:12<Echoz>generally /var has to be big for servers, /home has to be big for clients
08:12<sue>this is just my vm for software development
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08:26<peter1138>sue, in that case i would recommend leaving /var where it is and making a new partition for docker
08:27<peter1138>i haven't used docker, but i typically have separate /var/lib/libvirt and/or /var/lib/lxc partitions
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08:32<sue>that seems reasonable
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08:39<Echoz>sue: peter1138: for libvirt at least you can add multiple storage locations. might not be so relevant in terms of a test machine
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08:46<peter1138>true. i tend to use lvm for libvirt, and leave that path for iamges
08:46<peter1138>cd images
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08:49<peter1138>parport_pc 00:05: [dma 18446744073709551615 disabled]
08:49<peter1138>sounds a bit uninitialized :p
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09:11<EmleyMoor>What can I do, entirely software side, to keep my CPU from getting too hot? Even with a water cooling system it's easy to push it over specified maximum...
09:12<jm_>tried setting max allowed frequency for it, assuming it supports that?
09:12<EmleyMoor>jm_: Er... everything seems to be on auto
09:13<jm_>EmleyMoor: try poking in /sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq (cpufreq-set can also help)
09:13<jm_>but off now
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09:14<EmleyMoor>No cpufreq in /sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu*
09:16<Echoz>EmleyMoor: I remember limiting the frequency on a macbook that would reach 105 degrees C... let me see if I can refresh my memory
09:16<EmleyMoor>I have no cpufreq driver
09:17<Echoz>EmleyMoor: I believe it was cpupower
09:17<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Oh, that complicates it
09:18<EmleyMoor>Might I need a newer kernel?
09:19<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Possibly, what kernel are you on and what architecture and processor
09:19<EmleyMoor>Linux topdeck 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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09:20<Echoz>EmleyMoor: should work, do you have the package cpufrequtils installed?
09:21<EmleyMoor>Yes
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09:24<k-man>can i make apt-get skip a mirror when using httpredir, if that mirror seems broken?
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09:27<EmleyMoor>k-man: Can you explain the precise problem?
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09:29<EmleyMoor>Can anyone advise me how I start using cprufreq scaling, starting from getting a driver loaded?
09:30<firewall>salve
09:30<firewall>ho un problema qualcuno può aiutarmi?
09:31<itd>!it
09:31<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
09:31<firewall>ok
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09:35<Echoz>EmleyMoor: try this to see what cpufreq drivers you have available /sbin/modinfo /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/* | grep "^[fd]"
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09:35<EmleyMoor>... and then???
09:36<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Do you have any at all?
09:37<EmleyMoor>It's more a case of "are any of the ones I have even usable?" - it's a fair list though
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09:37<firewall>in chat #debian-it, non mi risponde nessuno....
09:37<Echoz>EmleyMoor: All right, well one thing first, that topdeck kernel you have, did you compile that yourself? I can't seem to find any info
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09:38<Echoz>firewall: IRC is slow, especially smaller channels, you'll need to have some patience
09:38<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/892339/
09:39<itd>firewall: ask here if you want, but do so in english, please.
09:39<EmleyMoor>Echoz: No, topdeck is just the hostname - standard in the uname -a output. It's the current standard jessie kernel
09:39<firewall>ok no problem
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09:40<pdo_fn14>Hello, where's xrdp-sesman.service in jessie?.
09:41<itd>judd: file xrdp-sesman.service
09:41<judd>No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file.
09:41<firewall>I wanted to know if it is safe and convenient to have an updated kernel lowlatance
09:41<firewall>?
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09:42<lindi->firewall: what do you mean?
09:43<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Ah, of course. What does cpufreq-info give you?
09:43<EmleyMoor>Headaches!
09:43<sue>i can happily report that sticking another virtual disk on my vm and adjusting /var/lib/docker to point to the new disk is working quite well
09:43<sue>thanks for the suggestions
09:44<EmleyMoor>For all, no or unknown cpufreq driver
09:44<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Okay, what's your CPU model?
09:45<EmleyMoor>AMD FX9370
09:45<firewall>ntense is good to update the kernel on Debian 8.6? in lowlatance?
09:45<itd>judd: file xrdp-sesman.service --release jessie-backports
09:45<judd>Search for xrdp-sesman.service in jessie-backports/amd64: xrdp: lib/systemd/system/xrdp-sesman.service
09:45<itd>pdo_fn14: ^
09:47<pdo_fn14>Damn, i need waiting stretch to become stable. I hate backport.
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09:47<lindi->firewall: what? I don't understand what you mean
09:48<lindi->firewall: low latency?
09:48<firewall>yes
09:48<firewall>kernel low latency
09:48<lindi->firewall: I don't think Debian has any low latency kernels
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09:48<firewall>no Debian no
09:49<Echoz>EmleyMoor: try modprobe acpi_cpufreq
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09:49<itd>firewall: this channel is debian only
09:49<Echoz>or acpi-cpufreq
09:49<firewall>yes i have debian
09:49<EmleyMoor>modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'acpi_cpufreq': No such device
09:50<EmleyMoor>firewall: So, in as full and plain English as you can, what is it you want to do?
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09:54<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Do you have any type of turbo boost or automatic overclocking enabled in the BIOS? I've seen mentions of similar issues when people have that.
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09:56<EmleyMoor>Echoz: I have deliberately kept overclocking disabled. As for Turbo Boost, don't think so - but I'd have to look... can't see how it's acting as a showstopper on this in any case.
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09:59<pdo_fn14>anyway, there's some bad copying text right now, like as that situation,
09:59<pdo_fn14>Penggolongan Sen3a7a Asam ,an Sen3a7a +asa (must be corrected like: penggolongan senyawa asam dan senyawa basa)
10:00<pdo_fn14>what the problem?.
10:00<Echoz>pdo_fn14: Bad copying? Where?
10:01<pdo_fn14>Echoz: from text clipboard
10:01<Echoz>EmleyMoor: I'd suggest taking a look at the BIOS settings, in case there is anything there that might take control and not allow the operating system to
10:02<pdo_fn14>Echoz: something like that in indonesian words
10:02<pdo_fn14>" Penggolongan Sen3a7a Asam ,an Sen3a7a +asa (must be corrected like: penggolongan senyawa asam dan senyawa basa)"
10:02<Echoz>pdo_fn14: Let me get this right, your text orignally said penggolonga senyawa ... and so on and then it turned into Penggolongan Sen3a7a ... when you pasted it?
10:02<EmleyMoor>Echoz: That means rebooting... just trying to be SURE I don't need the new kernel before I do.
10:02<pdo_fn14>Echoz: yeps.
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10:03<Echoz>EmleyMoor: for reference mine is working with kernel 4.7 from backports, but then again I'm using an Intel CPU.
10:04<Echoz>pdo_fn14: from what program did you copy and to what program did you paste?
10:05<EmleyMoor>If I do go to the backported kernel, will I encounter any nvidia driver related problems?
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10:05<pdo_fn14>Echoz: from firefox and to anywhere.
10:05<Echoz>EmleyMoor: also something called "Cool'n'Quiet" should be enabled for AMD processors, according to something I found. But it might not exist anymore seeing as this mentions kernel 2.6
10:07<EmleyMoor>OK, will reboot and check... though I would put my shirt on it being not the source of the trouble.
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10:08<r4co0n>Hi. I have a rather new PC, Z170 mainboard chipset, and want to control the fans. The system is noticeably more silent using redmond os than debian stretch. I tried running pwmconfig, but it reports that "There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" Any ideas? I can also set fan speeds at BIOS level, but as far as I can tell, those get overwritten (fans speed up) when booting stretch.
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10:09<itd>r4co0n: for stretch you want to ask in #debian-next
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10:11<pdo_fn14>Echoz: http://imgur.com/a/gJzXn
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10:22<Echoz>pdo_fn14: Is the original sentence stored in a file? Could possibly be an encoding problem
10:24<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... I turned off "Turbo Core", enabled EPU Power Save in Maximum setting and enabled Cool 'n' Quiet - and now a cpufreq driver is loaded, and the ondemand governor is running.
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10:25<EmleyMoor>Not sure what the k10temp/temp1 reading is for but it's gone as low as 3.6°C
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10:26<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Is that a typo, do you live in siberia, or is the sensor just giving bad values
10:28<EmleyMoor>Echoz: Like I say, not sure what that measures
10:29<EmleyMoor>it8721/temp1 I am taking as CPU temperature. It's still getting a bit high.
10:30<Echoz>EmleyMoor: the k10 thing is apparently a sensor in the AMD die, but it's supposed to be relative to something. Saw some interesting ways online to get the actual value, but they're not verry accurate and kinda silly
10:31<EmleyMoor>Ah... so its figure is a difference between two temperatures?
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10:33<Echoz>EmleyMoor: Yeah, people were running stress tests, quickly rebooting into bios and reading the temperature in order to get the actual value from the OS. I don't have much confidence in this approach personally, though
10:33<pdo_fn14>Echoz: No.\
10:34<Echoz>pdo_fn14: what is the encoding on the page you are copying from, and what's your LANG?
10:34<pdo_fn14>Echoz: soryy, i'm busy now. Later.
10:35<Echoz>EmleyMoor: could you pastebin the output from sensors, though?
10:36<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/892359/
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10:38<Echoz>EmleyMoor: is your motherboard my any chance an ASUS sabertooth 990FX? Found a sensors config online that seems to correspond to these values fairly well
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10:40<EmleyMoor>Echoz: Close. Formula-Z, not Sabertooth.
10:41<EmleyMoor>Crosshair Z Formula-Z
10:41<EmleyMoor>Crosshair V*
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10:44<EmleyMoor>Still wondering how to stop it getting so hot - but at least I've some control now
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10:48<Echoz>EmleyMoor: I don't really see any information that could help you get correct readings on that motherboard, but the 990FX at least with the same sensor names did not modify the value
10:49<Echoz>It does look at least realistic at 66 degrees. Did you look at the temperature while you were in the BIOS?
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10:53<EmleyMoor>Echoz: It was about 48...
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10:54<EmleyMoor>Now I've found a way to change governor I've managed to get it cooler. This CPU has a recommended maximum of 61...
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10:59<pdo_fn14>Echoz: Hmm, I think it's utf-8 AFAIK, and lang-id (indonesian)
10:59<EmleyMoor>At 3.8GHz, it's staying under 61 - at 4.2 it's going over
10:59<pdo_fn14>Echoz: With my keyboard layout's American with euro €
11:00<Echoz>pdo_fn14: by LANG i mean the environment variable, get it by running echo $LANG
11:00<Echoz>EmleyMoor: It's an improvement at least, right?
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11:00<Echoz>I'm leaving work now so I'll get back in an hour or two
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11:01<EmleyMoor>Yes, it's great to be able to control it
11:02<pdo_fn14>Echoz: id_ID.UTF-8
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11:05<EmleyMoor>Have currently got it on "ondemand", max 3.8
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11:36<gruetzkopf>hey, anyone know offhand where the initial partition probing on a new blockdevice happens during boot?
11:36<gruetzkopf>(on debian jessie, armel, in the initramfs)
11:36<TotallyNotKim>oh them glorious netsplit
11:37<TotallyNotKim>gruetzkopf: let me think about that a moment :P
11:38<gruetzkopf>background: writing a new block driver for linux to deal with nintendo3ds weirdness
11:38<gruetzkopf>if i manually do it with partprobe, the partitions show up
11:38<grawity>udev does ioctl(<device>, BLKRRPART)
11:38<firewall>http://paste.debian.net/892365/
11:38<gruetzkopf>for every device of class block?
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11:38<grawity>for every device of subsystem 'block' || subsystem 'disk' || name 'dm-*'
11:39<gruetzkopf>which rule is that, or is it built in?
11:39<grawity>although I'm sure the kernel is also supposed to do that automatically?
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11:39<grawity>oh wait, the udev code only runs in synthesize_change()
11:39<gruetzkopf>mmh, my block driver is somewhat minimalist, let me check
11:39<grawity>the *initial* scan is, I'm pretty sure, done by the kernel itself
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11:40<TotallyNotKim>well the first one will be the bootloader, eg grub. But thats not the one we are loking for. After that the initramfs already knows about the partitions, so it should be done by the kernel itself beforehand
11:40<grawity>grub doesn't count – it does not pass any of that info to the kernel
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11:40<TotallyNotKim>yep
11:41<TotallyNotKim>gruetzkopf: when do you need the blockdevice to be usable?
11:42<gruetzkopf>well, i kinda need it as / after initrd is done with its job :D
11:43<gruetzkopf>bootloading works fine already (custom code), but that at least is done by a processor which actually has direct access to the mmc controller
11:43<grawity>ah, well, then technically the initramfs could just run partprobe
11:43<gruetzkopf>yes, but i want fairly standard behaviour
11:43<TotallyNotKim>thats what the initramfs is for
11:43<TotallyNotKim>I think
11:43<TotallyNotKim>thats also where the rootfs is handled when using md raids I thing
11:44<TotallyNotKim>or even lvm on md raids as rootfs
11:44<grawity>I see block_dev.c calls rescan_partitions()
11:45<TotallyNotKim>you can unpack the current initramfs and have a look around in there
11:45<TotallyNotKim>there are some scripts in it
11:45<TotallyNotKim>(you should find them somewhere on the filesystem too)
11:46<gruetzkopf>yeah i'm currently browsing around in it from emergency shell
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11:51<linuxmonk>Hi , anyone knows good vpn provider that offer a client for debian????so far in my search proxy.sh looks nice ,any thought?
11:51<TotallyNotKim>are you looking for gui clients?
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11:51<TotallyNotKim>VPN is fairly standard, so client shouldn't be that big of a problem
11:52<linuxmonk>yes ,and nice spirit provider
11:52<linuxmonk>actually ,most don t bother for linux
11:52<TotallyNotKim>nah, most of the time the provider itself shouldn't matter
11:53<TotallyNotKim>except if they build their own protocol or something
11:53<gruetzkopf>so, how'd i get partprobe into the initramfs and executed before fielsystem mounting
11:53<TotallyNotKim>gruetzkopf: if you can boot to a point where mount is available just remount / with your own blockdevice
11:54<linuxmonk>yes proxy.sh have open source client that offer elliptic curve encryption (based on open vpn)
11:54<gruetzkopf>well, i don't have my partition at that point in time
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11:55<TotallyNotKim>you're in the initramfs busybox right now, right?
11:55<gruetzkopf>yes
11:55<gruetzkopf>but i don't have a partprobe there
11:55<TotallyNotKim>ah
11:55<gruetzkopf>apparently
11:55<TotallyNotKim>got it
11:55<TotallyNotKim>well you could try to build it into the initramfs
11:56<gruetzkopf>yes. how? :D
11:56<TotallyNotKim>don't know if it has any other dependency tho
11:56<grawity>can you try 'echo change > /sys/class/block/sdx'
11:57<grawity>er, sdx/uevent
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11:57<TotallyNotKim>or that^
11:57<grawity>I'm not sure if it'll do anything without udev, though
11:57<gruetzkopf>i should have udev at that point in time
11:57<grawity>but if you have udev already, that should work
11:57<TotallyNotKim>I used something like echo 1 > /sys/somewhere/rescan some time ago
11:58<grawity>oh, this reminds me
11:58<grawity>I checked systemd's early boot, and Arch's initramfs
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11:58<TotallyNotKim>yep
11:58<grawity>they both do the same system-wide, using `udevadm trigger --action=add --type=subsystems`, same with --type=device
11:58<TotallyNotKim>via kernel interface
11:58<grawity>maybe you're missing that
11:58<TotallyNotKim>echo 1 > /sys/block/sdX/device/rescan
11:58<TotallyNotKim>try that
11:59<icebrain>linuxmonk: what kind of data is so sensitive it needs state-of-the-art encryption, but can be sent to some random VPN provider which might be logging it and selling it to anyone?
11:59<TotallyNotKim>icebrain: i treat my pr0n like my own child's
11:59<TotallyNotKim>but that makes it just weired
11:59<TotallyNotKim>good thing I dont have own breed yet
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12:00<gruetzkopf>oh, that doesn't exist
12:00<TotallyNotKim>which part is missing?
12:00<icebrain>if you don't need super-duper security, proxpn supports plain OpenVPN, PTPP, etc
12:00<linuxmonk>torrent for one thing
12:00<TotallyNotKim>the device in the subsystem
12:01<gruetzkopf>the device directory in the /sys/block/ctrmmc directory
12:01<gruetzkopf>i'm doing something horribly wrong
12:01<linuxmonk>and solidarity with human right activist who needs privacy ,the more users we are the more secure
12:01<TotallyNotKim>gruetzkopf: is the driver build in the kernel?
12:02<gruetzkopf>yes.
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12:02<TotallyNotKim>I mean how does the intramfs know how to deal with that hardware?
12:02<TotallyNotKim>ah
12:02<TotallyNotKim>okay
12:02<gruetzkopf>as are the relevant fs drivers.
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12:04<icebrain>linuxmonk: if you're trusting random vpn providers not to sell you out to the copyright cops or to enemies of human rights, good luck
12:05<TotallyNotKim>gruetzkopf: is there fdisk or similar available and if yes does it see the partition table on the block device?
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12:07<linuxmonk>that s why I m asking for trusted provider ,a friend uses proxy.sh for a year and he torrent fine
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12:08<pdo_fn14>Echoz: ?.
12:08<gruetzkopf>i don't have a fdisk there yet. but i'm using a initramfs built with debians update-initramfs. how do i get in there
12:09<gruetzkopf>or partprobe or anything :D
12:09<itd>pdo_fn14: Echoz is probably still "leaving work". :)
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12:24<Rinzler>Hi, I need help with TOR. When I try to connect it leaks DNS querys, so I setted up TOR to create a local dns on localhost. Problem: the 53 port is busy, so I setted the TOR DNS server on another port. I've done some head-scratching to force the system to connect to the local port, but both editing on GNOME settings about DNS and edit of /etc/resolv.conf with 127.0.0.1:port failed. Someone can suggest me what to do?
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12:25<grawity>huh that's the first time I've heard of Tor having a DNS server
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12:25<grawity>why is localhost:53 taken? dnsmasq?
12:25<Rinzler>grawity, Idk.
12:25<grawity>...check?
12:25<Rinzler>grawity, how?
12:26<grawity>sudo netstat -lpnu | grep :53
12:26<jelly>Rinzler: bind a different address and port 53. Alternatively, redirect traffic with iptables
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12:27<Rinzler>grawity, nothing, but it still fails.
12:27<Echoz>at last I have returned
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12:28<Rinzler>jelly: How can I bind a different address?
12:28<itd>Rinzler: maybe it listens for TCP connections. try again with "-lpnt"
12:29<Rinzler>itd: Absolutely nothing.
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12:29<Echoz>Rinzler: dns works on udp 53, and when defining a dns server in /etc/resolv.conf you don't use the port number
12:29<duclicsic>dns also uses tcp 53
12:30<Echoz>Rinzler: and if TOR needs to resolve a name, how does it help to create a local DNS server unless you already resolved it and have the information
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12:30<Rinzler>Echoz: Because if I don't do so the DNS query leak out of tor.
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12:31<Rinzler>By the way it seems that the TCP service is listening on port 53.
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12:31<Echoz>Rinzler: but it won't be resolved so then whatever it's doing won't work..
12:32<bert>I am trying to install cinelerra in Jessie, has anyone had any experiences?
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12:33<pdo_fn14>!packages xorgdrv
12:33<itd>dpkg: tell bert about ask
12:33<pdo_fn14>!package xorgdrv
12:34<Rinzler>So how can I force anything to watch first on 127.0.0.1:myport?
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12:36<Echoz>Rinzler: I'm not sure you can define a port, but 53 is the standard anyway so you don't need to add that
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12:37<Rinzler>Echoz: And how can I stop DNS leaks on the outside network with that?
12:37<Echoz>Rinzler: I don't know how this is going to solve anything though, if you don't want to query DNS you might as well not define any DNS at all
12:37<Echoz>Rinzler: if you want to stop packets use a firewall
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12:39<Echoz>iptables -A OUTPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 53 -j DROP
12:39<Echoz>and then the same with UDP should do the job
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12:41<Echoz>unless tor has a defined NS to query though you might as well just clear /etc/resolv.conf and it won't have anything to query
12:42<Echoz>if you're using dhcp you probably have to disable that though
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12:56<Rinzler>Someone knows a good guide about iptables?
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12:58<gnumonk>I learned iptables on youtube :)
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13:02<itd>Rinzler: I'm in disbelief that there is no process using port 53 when your program reports that the port is busy. Could you please run "netstat -peanut | grep ':53'" as root and tell me if there is any output at all.
13:03<pdo_fn14>Hello, I really getting bored by missing pgp-key stuff like that
13:03<pdo_fn14>http://pastebin.com/zhPDzh8k
13:03<pdo_fn14>do I need something right now?.
13:03<Rinzler>itd: I find that I reported the wrong error. It's permission denied.
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13:04<itd>Rinzler: Oh, then you need to run the program as root - ports <1024 are special little snowflakes. :)
13:05<itd>pdo_fn14: Have you tried to run 'apt-get update'?
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13:06<Rinzler>itd: Thanks, I already read it.
13:07<pdo_fn14>itd: Hmmm maybe something like that.
13:07<pdo_fn14>itd: $ sudo apt install debian-keyring && sudo apt update
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13:09<itd>pdo_fn14: Messages like those might occur when an 'apt-get update' failed for (some) server, IIRC.
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13:10<pdo_fn14>itd: No, my system don't have debian-keyring anymore and just add it after googling in someway/
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13:16<marioxcc_>Hello.
13:17<itd>marioxcc_: Hi.
13:17<marioxcc_>I want to load Debian Live to an USB flash memory. How can I keep using the extra space to store files?.
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13:45<Parckwart>marioxcc_: just make an extra partition
13:46<marioxcc_>Parckwart: Indeed. I found the documentation: https://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html#using-usb-extra-space
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14:10<pavi_>Can anyone make sense of this Xorg log http://paste.debian.net/892420/
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14:10<pavi_>I am unable to start x via normal user. At same time I cant start x as root which I dont want to do.
14:11<pavi_>Sorry I meant I can start X as root
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14:12<pavi_>I am using AMD + Intel graphics
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14:12<pavi_>Radeon HD 7600M which came with intel chip. Always creates issues :(
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14:17<Nemoder>pavi_: is your user in the video group and do you have xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu installed?
14:18<pavi_>Nemoder: I dont know let me check. The drivers should have been installed until they broke on recent sid upgrade
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14:24<blast007>if you're using testing or unstable, you should be in #debian-next (as per the topic)
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14:27<towo`>amdgpu for a 7xxx series card?
14:27<towo`>makes no sense
14:27<towo`>and i would oracle intel does provide the primary screen
14:28<towo`>so the intel-ddx should be used
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14:35<towo`>and if the amd card is set as primary device, the gpu-firmware has to be installed and xserver-xorg-video-ati
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14:44<charlie>anyone that can help out , im standing in the debian gnu grub with the command line ,is there anyway that i can list what ip the nic is taking at this stage ? i dont have the login atm :(
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14:45<Parckwart>you mean all the command line shows is "grub>"
14:45<Parckwart>?
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14:46<charlie>its before the boot , i can choose command line
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14:46<Nemoder>if it hasn't booted then it shouldn't have an ip yet
14:47<Parckwart>it barely should have anything at all
14:47<itd>charlie: what happened?
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14:50<charlie>i dont have the logins to it , so i need to enter via ssh from work where i have the logins , need to setup the dhcp in the router but it dosent show up so i guess i need to restart eth on it but i thought it was a longshot that i could see ip in the grup meny via the command line
14:51<Parckwart>you wont be able to ssh in there if the box hasnt even been able to boot up
14:52<itd>charlie: don't stay in grub if you want to use ssh.
14:52<charlie>that i know , but need to see the ip to setup ssh in router first
14:52<Nemoder>you might be able to get the MAC address from the bios but if it's not requesting an ip then you'll have to solve that first anyway
14:52<charlie>itd: i know
14:53<charlie>guess i have to travel to work first to get the logins :(
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14:53<Parckwart>oh, now i get your problem
14:54<charlie>parckwart: thnks :)
14:54<Parckwart>no, you can boot straight into a root console with the right bash command
14:54<Parckwart>*grub command
14:54<charlie>okie :)
14:54<charlie>any hint?
14:54<Nemoder>most routers will assign the same ip to the same MAC so there could be a log on the router to figure out what it is
14:54<itd>Parckwart: could you please explain (later), for a friend? ;)
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14:56<Parckwart>heres a guide on that: http://www.softpanorama.org/Commercial_linuxes/Startup_and_shutdown/root_password_recovery.shtml#Using_init_bash_trick_in_grub
14:56<charlie>Parckwart: thnks ill take a look at it
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14:57<Parckwart>when in grub, just hit E, append "init=/bin/bash", hit B, mount root partition, and you got yourself a root shell
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14:57<Parckwart>basically an included backdoor ;)
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15:02<Nemoder>that's more of a front door :P
15:03<missmbob>they make this neat thing called a cell phone. you could call work
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15:04<pavi_>Nemoder: towo` the user is in the video group. I didnt find amdgpu installed but radeon,intel and vesa are installed.
15:05<missmbob>pavi_: for sid you should go to #debian-next
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15:07<pavi_>missmbob: you think its a sid specific issue? I felt the issue was silly enough for this group to solve.
15:09<musca>xserver-xorg-video-ati is needed for the automatic probing of any of the free ATI/AMD drivers
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15:09<missmbob>pavi_: if it was installed and now it's not, yeah, sid probably has something to do with it. they'd know
15:10<pavi_>missmbob: Yeah asked there also. :)
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15:12<musca>[ 544.471] (EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
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15:14<towo`>pavi_, radeon is not enaugth
15:14<pavi_>I think I get the answer from the xorg notice in the #debian-next channel. It says Xorg server is no longer setuid root, reducing the risk of privilege escalation security problems
15:14<towo`>pavi_, for autoconfiguring x, you need xserver-xorg-video-ati
15:14<pavi_>towo`: but the issue is X starts with root user.
15:15<pavi_>Its all something to do with Logind . I think there is also another issue with nextwork manager which might be related. No network devices are listed in ifconfig.
15:16<pavi_>So I am kind of clueless with all those awesome things systemd brought. :(
15:16<pavi_>No one in #debian-next is replying and missmbob you still think I better ask there?
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15:32<Echoz>systemd can be a mess but at the same time it's kind of nice
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15:40<Sheppy>hi, i would like to reduce the timeout for SIGTERM handlers at shutdown (the time until sigkill is sent) but i cant find a config-line for it, can somebody point me in the right direction?
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15:41<C-Keen>it's probably hard coded in your init process
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15:49<Sheppy>well there lot's of stuff about that in /etc but nothing that looks like the 90s i'm looking for to me
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16:10<Sheppy>oh, yeah, well, meh, thank you likcoras
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19:06<mnter>hi! I want to move a home subfolder to a usb stick. how can I mount it automatically AFTER that user's logon in X?
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19:08<itd>mnter: Hi, what should happen if the USB stick is not present?
19:09<mnter>I don't care - maybe an error message.
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19:11<felixs>mnter: mount it from .Xsession?
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19:12<mnter>well Xsession should be in the home folder - but that folder is on the stick to be mounted
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19:14<felixs>mnter: i see. so "home subfolder" means "home directory"
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19:15<felixs>i would expect pam to be able to do that
19:15<mnter>yes, sry for the ambigous term. I meant that not /home should be mounted but a subfolder from /home ;)
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19:16<itd>mnter: make a basic home without your data, modify the Xsession there to mount the usb to the location of your home folder? (I think hide the home folder content by mounting something there should work.)
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19:19<mnter>excellnt idea. thx. I didn't know about the "hide by mounting" concept
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19:21<itd>mnter: no warranty ;)
19:22<felixs>indeed, that might work. anyway, there is pam_mount. in the libpam-mount package
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19:25<itd>mnter: ^ that sounds much better!
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19:28<mnter>great. I just read the hp
19:28<mnter>thanks a lot, guys
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19:53<ap4lmtree->hi. what method would i use to make a directory in debian to be mountable in windows on a different machine on the lan?
19:53<ap4lmtree->wwould i have to run samba, or could i do somethign with nfs?
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19:54<missmbob>i'd use samba for windows and ask #samba
19:54<ap4lmtree->samba is slower though
19:54<ap4lmtree->is there something faster?
19:54<itd>ap4lmtree-: I guess that depends on the capabilities of your windows machine. On the debian side nfs shouldn't be a problem.
19:55<sney>samba is pretty quick nowadays, and any windows nfs compatibility layers are garbage
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19:56<sney>I've used samba in production and gotten close to wire speed for data transfers
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20:29<k-man>when i do an apt-get update, it often gets stuck on some of the httpredir sources, like this: 96% [Connecting to httpredir.debian.org (2001:41c8:1000:21::21:35)] [Connecting it just sits for ages
20:31<k-man>hmm i think its an ipv6 thing in my vm
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20:32<missmbob>!httpredir issues
20:32<dpkg>The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code). Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>.
20:32<leonn>hello
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20:33<leonn>i’m running jessie with a kernel from backports and hitting a bug in nouveau. where do i report that? bugs.debian.org? backports mailing list? upstream?
20:33<sney>option #1
20:34<leonn>thanks
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20:46<Lightning>Hey, does anyone here have experience installing PIA on Debian? I got it to install via the instructions on site, however it's just stuck on connecting.
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20:48<sney>PIA?
20:48<k-man>pain in a**?
20:48<Lightning>Private Internet Access.
20:48<k-man>o
20:48<Lightning>Haha, sorry should've clarified
20:48<k-man>h
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20:48<sney>what's that, some kind of vpn client?
20:48<Lightning>@k-man that's what it's being now lol
20:49<Lightning>Yeah, it's a VPN client.
20:49<itd>Lightning: Would you mind sharing the link to the instructions?
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20:49<Lightning>Yeah, let me grab that one second itd
20:49<Lightning>https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/installer/download_installer_linux
20:49<Lightning>it'll prompt to download it so beware
20:50<sney>nb. #debian doesn't officially support 3rd party software, and debian repos provide several well-supported vpn clients, so erm
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20:51<sney>oh I see they're also a provider. well, who wouldn't trust a thing with a proprietary client and lots of corporate reviews?!
20:51*sney shrug
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20:52<sney>for money. mein gott
20:52<Lightning>I agree, it was the first VPN I could get my hands on when I still used Windows a while ago.
20:53<Lightning>Do you have any alternatives you'd recommend?
20:53<itd>Lightning: It appears to be just some openvpn stuff.
20:53<sney>that's slightly reassuring
20:53<itd>Lightning: If you look (not execute ;)) at this script https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/installer/install_ubuntu.sh you get some kind of guide what to do.
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20:57<Lightning>I'll take a look, thanks. If you guys have any VPN clients you could recommend that'd be great
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21:00<sney>Lightning: what you need to understand is that all a VPN does in this case is connect you to some other person's network before connecting you to the internet. it doesn't make you "invisible" or whatever, it makes you look as if you're somewhere else.
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21:00<itd>Lightning: and the other person is able to see what you do :)
21:01<sney>Lightning: which is fine for privacy, IF AND ONLY IF you trust a) the other person's network endpoint to not get you fingered for criminal activities, and 2) the software/other party to not look at your traffic.
21:01<sney>2 is the big one, really. that's why special proprietary vpn clients are bad news, because you have no idea
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21:02<sney>commodity vpn technologies such as ipsec and openvpn are pretty well trusted as software, you just neet to find a provider that you trust as well. otherwise you might as well not bother at all
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21:03<Lightning>PIA uses OpenVPN. I know that a VPN doesn't make me invisible, that's not what I'm expecting from it. But I feel it necessary to have one on for browsing. Do you guys not use VPNs?
21:04<sney>only occasionally
21:04<itd>Lightning: May I ask why you feel the necessarity to use a VPN for browsing?
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21:05<Lightning>I don't want people knowing where I'm located. I understand the provider can see it, however I'd rather not every website I touch to know exactly where I am.
21:06<somiaj>Lightning: I use a vpn for different reasions. Mostly to be able to access stuff locally at work remotely over a secure connenction. But not to hide my location/identity.
21:06<sney>so what you're really looking for is a proxy
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21:11<Lightning>sney I'm not sure I'm looking for a proxy since my ISP and gov can still see what I'm doing, whereas on a VPN only the company that provides the service would.
21:11<itd>Lightning: Since you asked for VPN clients. I'd go with NetworkManager which has a variety of framwork packages you can install, e.g. network-manager-openvpn (for OpenVPN).
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21:12<Lightning>itd I'll check NetworkManager out, thanks
21:13<itd>Lightning: It is most likely already installed. :)
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---Logclosed Sat Nov 05 00:00:30 2016