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#debian IRC Logs for 2016-12-15

---Logopened Thu Dec 15 00:00:18 2016
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00:05-!-JanC_ is "Jan Claeys" on #apparmor #debian #debian-derivatives #debian-nl #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #linux-nfs #quodlibet #debian-fonts #bcache
00:05<gd>hi i am new to back box and wanna know about it
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00:48<esokia>hi all
00:48<esokia>i need some help with git
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00:49<raviteja>hiiii
00:49<esokia>hi raviteja
00:49<raviteja>iam facing a problem while installing gcc complier
00:49<raviteja>in debian
00:50<raviteja>can help with that
00:50<bremner>what specific problem?
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00:51<raviteja>root@debian:~# apt install gcc
00:51<raviteja>Reading package lists... Done
00:51<raviteja>Building dependency tree
00:51<raviteja>Reading state information... Done
00:51<raviteja>You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
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00:52<esokia>apt-get install gcc will do
00:52<esokia>what version of debian is that
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00:54<esokia>yes run that
00:54<esokia>do apt -get update
00:57<esokia>anyone here will git knobledge
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00:59<jm_>define git knowledge
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02:44<bollo>nm-connection-editor segfaults when importing openvpn-config. Found https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=744128 but it appears to be fixed. Still I'm not able to import. Net install yesterday of jessie. Any ideas?
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02:44<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/744128 in network-manager-gnome (closed, patch, confirmed): «network-manager-openvpn-gnome: Segfault when importing existing ovpn configuration file»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-04-10; last modified: 2016-10-21.
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02:54<jm_>bollo: it was fixed in unstable, i.e. newer version than what jessie has
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07:03<desert>is it possible to make a script that will search it's directory's file names for characters and replace them with something else?
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07:04<jm_>desert: man prename rename, there are also other tools, like mmv and even GUI ones
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07:06<desert>ok, thanks
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07:20<pi_>I see a long-running '/sbin/agetty --noclear tty1 linux' process that's now taking 100% CPU
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07:21<raboof>strace reveals it's looping reading from /dev/tty1, but gdb doesn't give much information as the binary is stripped. are the debugging symbols available somewhere?
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07:31<poz2k4444>hey petn-randall I just installed the stable release (i was asking in #debian-next) but now I cannot start the xserver, I installed a minimum version and manually installed xorg and i3wm
07:32<poz2k4444>petn-randall: it says "no screens found"
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07:32<poz2k4444>petn-randall: I installed the nvidia-driver package so I guess the problem is there, can you help me here?
07:35<Brigo>poz2k4444, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for issues
07:35<Brigo>poz2k4444, i would guess is a missconfigured xorg.conf file.
07:35<SynrG>ideas to get rid of squinty fonts on my xrdp session at work when using high res monitor without screwing up the default for other monitors? i see old advice out there about specifying param# in sesman.ini to pass the -dpi option to xorg, but i thought that was deprecated (instead, the Monitor section is supposed to have the DisplaySize and DPI is calculated from that)
07:36<poz2k4444>Brigo: it is that indeed, but I don't know how to fix it, can you help me here?
07:36<SynrG>and i don't see any option to Xorg that allows you to specify that DisplaySize
07:36<Brigo>there is a tool for that.
07:36<Brigo>poz2k4444, nvidia-xconfig
07:37<Brigo>it is an executable and a package you should install.
07:37<SynrG>ohhh, hmm. the Xorg man page seems woefully inadequate. when I do Xorg -? I see all sorts of options here not mentioned in the man page (including dpi, which i thought went away)
07:37<Brigo>it creates a nvidia suitable xorg.conf file.
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07:39<poz2k4444>Brigo: still the same problem :(
07:39<Brigo>poz2k4444, what have you done?
07:39<poz2k4444>the nvidia-xconfig step
07:40<poz2k4444>it creates a file at /etc/x11/xorg.conf
07:40<Brigo>i think it don't.
07:40<Brigo>it create a file in you own directory, you have to put it there.
07:40<Brigo>check it.
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07:41<Brigo>make first a backup, just in case :)
07:41<poz2k4444>Brigo: this is a fresh install, and no, it creates the file in the path I said before
07:42<Anarka>poz2k4444: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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07:43<poz2k4444>first EE is No devices detected
07:43<poz2k4444>anarka
07:43<poz2k4444>then Fatal server error
07:43<Brigo>poz2k4444, then paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/x11/xorg.conf in paste.debian.net so we can check them.
07:44<Brigo>No devices detected <-- you card is not supported (first guess)
07:44<SynrG>one thing that's not made clear in the man pages xrdp.ini and sesman.ini is the relationship between these. it is perhaps implied that a sesman.ini section of the same name as the corresponding xrdp.ini section will be used. anyone know for certain?
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07:44<poz2k4444>Brigo: well I got it working with stretch... but let me start IRC on that device to copy and paste the stuff
07:46<Brigo>poz2k4444, if that card is new, it may be you need a newer nvidia driver (from backports)
07:47<SynrG>ohh. i think maybe it's code=20
07:47<SynrG>gah. that means that I can't have a separate [XorgLowDPI] in sesman.ini, since these are hardcoded. grrr
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08:12<SynrG>Blah. I give up. I can't even do it for one DPI let alone two. things i tried: in sesman.ini [Xorg], param=-dpi param=103 (no effect, remains at 96)
08:12<SynrG>in /etc/X11/xrdp/xorg.conf, change DisplaySize in the Monitor section to match the size (in mm) of the high-res monitor at home. no effect, DPI remains at 96
08:13<SynrG>I'm using xdpyinfo | grep resolution to determine DPI for each test
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08:13<SynrG>and after each change, i stop and start the xrdp and xrdp-sesman services.
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08:14<dab>bok
08:14<SynrG>so if anyone has any bright ideas as to how to convince xrdp to use a DPI other than 96, i'm all ears. I've tried all the "obvious" things, after having extensively searched the man pages and google for answers, and have hit a dead end.
08:14<SynrG>only thing i haven't done is to start examining the source
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08:21<Anarka>xrandr --dpi 103
08:22<Anarka>temporary if it works
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08:34<EmleyMoor>How well does Debian work on Lenovo Yoga devices?
08:35<SynrG>Anarka: the question then becomes, how do i insert this into cinnamon's session startup? i tried making ~/.xsession with xrandr --dpi 103 in it before exec /usr/bin/cinnamon-session and it looks like cinnamon reasserted 96 dpi :(
08:36<SynrG>otherwise cinnamon itself has small fonts and everything started from it seems to inherit the old DPI even though i've put the new one in effect via xranrd
08:36<SynrG>xrandr*
08:36<SynrG>oh, and small correction, the correct value is 107 for my display.
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08:45<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: It's probably easier to do a internet search with the specific model + "debian" or "linux".
08:46<EmleyMoor>petn-randall: The one thing I'm not specific about is the model - that's a consideration
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08:55<poz2k4444>Brigo: the xorg.conf file is this http://paste.debian.net/902317
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08:56<poz2k4444>Brigo: and the log is http://paste.debian.net/902318
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09:22<chomwitt2>is there a debug.mirror for stable ?
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09:35<oty>hey. I'd like to repport a bug. "pactl set-sink-volume 0 -5%" doesn't work as it should ; it detect the last "-" as an argument which isn't (and the synthax is good as far as the man tells).
09:35<oty>well I guess if I'm asking it's not really reporting a bug, but more looking for confirmation x)
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10:01<SynrG>my compromise: since injecting the right dpi into the cinnamon session inside xrdp seems to be a hassle, and since the "high res display" is an ancient 22" CRT, and since running that at max "native" resolution (1600x1200) is such a hassle, I did a videogen to make a better mode (1280x1024) that is more consistent with my other displays i use to connect to the same xrdp session.
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10:01<SynrG>end-result: non-squinty fonts inside the 1280x1024 xrdp session
10:02<SynrG>thanks to those who made suggestions, though :)
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10:30<WhatThePfargtl>Hi all. Just installed a new system using debian with KDE, and I'm having some issues where i'm getting a dialog asking for a root password. Most notably it happens when trying to mount a usb drive, but it also happens randomly for something that appears to be automatically updating my apt sources, as well as on startup for something called "packagekit" trying to establish a proxy connection. Also possibly of note is that I'm on
10:30<WhatThePfargtl>systemd and that I removed sudo (which may be directly related to the issue).
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10:33<tomg>heh I think you should have removed systemd and kept sudo. sortof serious. I really think you need sudo there
10:33<tomg>very likely
10:34<WhatThePfargtl>isn't there some way to set up some kind of polkit?
10:34<WhatThePfargtl>Also, seems strange that whatever is updating the apt sources isn't already running as root.
10:35<WhatThePfargtl>anyway, even if I reinstall sudo, i have no idea what configuration would be necessary for this specifically
10:35<tomg>I understand polkit only a little, I was assuming kde depended on sudo, but I guess if you removed it maybe that's not it
10:35<WhatThePfargtl>nah, my old system was running on kde just fine without sudo
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10:35<WhatThePfargtl>I don't trust sudo.
10:36<tomg>I don't know, it does some like something going wrong at the lower layers like polkitd
10:36<tomg>s/some/sound/
10:36<WhatThePfargtl>i assume that the installer I used set this up to use sudo rather than polkit
10:37<WhatThePfargtl>whereas the installer I used way back when did not
10:37<WhatThePfargtl>or something
10:37<tomg>I don't think there is such a thing
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10:37<tomg>if it depended it would be a dpkg dependency
10:37<WhatThePfargtl>what "such a thing" are you referring to?
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10:37<tomg>did I answer your question so far?
10:37<WhatThePfargtl>yes, very.
10:37<WhatThePfargtl>thank you
10:37<tomg>no I mean
10:38<tomg>I want to help. perhaps ask in KDE-related forums or channels?
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10:38<WhatThePfargtl>btw, one point of clarification, it's not clear whether you understood that i removed systemd (actually didn't even start with it, as i'm technically on devuan, but whatever)
10:38<tomg>but you can stay here and ask me too
10:38<WhatThePfargtl>hmm...
10:39<tomg>oh, I thought you said you were on systemd
10:39<WhatThePfargtl>no, i said i'm on sysvinit rather than systemd
10:39<WhatThePfargtl>for obvious reasons.
10:39<tomg>you should search for kde without systemd on the Web, or maybe try systemd-shim ?
10:40<WhatThePfargtl>it works fine without systemd
10:40<tomg>WhatThePfargtl: looking at your post it appears your statement was lost in a copy an paste accident :)
10:40<WhatThePfargtl>more like a line splitting accident, but still...
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10:41<WhatThePfargtl>anyway, i doubt the lack of systemd is the issue. I'm pretty sure it's related to the sudo uninstall
10:41<Gabriel_7>WhatThePfargtl: maybe you should try asking on #devuan, then :)
10:41<WhatThePfargtl>it's also not a dependency per-se, as it still WORKS without sudo, it just pesters me for a password all the time
10:41<tomg>It might be a polkit setting
10:41<tomg>I don't understand polkit very well
10:42<WhatThePfargtl>Gabriel_7, as i understand, devuan doen't differ except for not including systemd, and i'm having trouble finding any information when searching google for devuan, so i figured that the same would be true of irc.
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10:44<Gabriel_7>Apparently, they do have an IRC channel.
10:45<tomg>try all of the above maybe, WhatThePfarg?
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10:45<WhatThePfargtl>And I will ask there too, but I would point out that the existence of a channel does not preclude the possibility that the channel is mostly dead
10:45<Gabriel_7>indeed :)
10:45<WhatThePfargtl>tomg, my plan exactly
10:46<WhatThePfargtl>Gabriel_7, channel's competely dead on this server (and by that i mean, i was the only one there). Gonna try on freenode
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10:47<Gabriel_7>I did not intend to make any statement about the vitality of the aforementionned IRC channel or the lack thereof.
10:47<Gabriel_7>WhatThePfargtl: yes it's on freenode
10:47<petn-randall>!devuan
10:47<dpkg>Devuan (https://devuan.org/) is a fork of Debian, meant to avoid dependencies on <systemd>. Not supported in #debian, please see #devuan on chat.freenode.net for support.
10:47<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: ^^^
10:47<WhatThePfargtl>Gabriel_7, yeah, that looks more active. thanks.
10:47<petn-randall>!based one
10:47<petn-randall>!based on
10:47<petn-randall>!based on
10:47<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
10:48<WhatThePfargtl>petn-randall, that's an asinine answer when it comes to this case, as the packages themselves are identical
10:49<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: Irrelevant.
10:49<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: If they were identical, it wouldn't be a fork, would it?
10:49<WhatThePfargtl>how so? if th packages are irrelevant then any fix that would work for debian would work on devuan, and anything broken on debian would be broken on devuan
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10:50<WhatThePfargtl>petn-randall, sure it would. it's a fork that just doesn't include certain packages
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10:50<WhatThePfargtl>but hte packages it does include are identical
10:50<WhatThePfargtl>hence what i said holds
10:50<dondelelcaro>WhatThePfargtl: and has rebuilt packages so that they don't depend on systemd, and therefore changed them.
10:50<dondelelcaro>WhatThePfargtl: and specifically in this case, appears to have broken the automounter in KDE
10:50<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: The fact is that this isn't the case, devuan has forked quite a lot of essential packages, they do their thing, we do ours. But also respect that we won't and can't support other distros.
10:51<WhatThePfargtl>dondelelcaro, i doubt that. i th9ink it's because i removed sudo.
10:51<dondelelcaro>(likely because the right permissions aren't being passed through by the session starting code in Devuan)
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10:51<dondelelcaro>WhatThePfargtl: sudo isn't necessary to do automounting
10:51<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: Wonderful! Then reinstall it and see if this fixes it for you. But it's still off-topic here.
10:51<dondelelcaro>but yes, #devuan in FN is your best bet
10:52<WhatThePfargtl>yep, this is exactly the kind of help i've come to expect from debian. thanks guys.
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10:52<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: That's the exact kind of support you'd expect when going with your Ford to a Honda dealership.
10:53<petn-randall>WhatThePfargtl: Or when calling Microsoft tech support about your broken Google account.
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10:55<jamesmc>Bless his heart
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11:15<tomg>WhatThePfargtl wants to apologise for what he said. Do you want to let him in?
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11:15<tomg>I'm sure he doesn't plan to try to get operating system support
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11:17<tomg>he says his comment was uncalled for and he's sorry for letting out his frustration like that
11:17<tomg>okay
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12:02<Brigo>hi, i am installing a backported package with gdebi (btfs) an it fails with: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6-amd64 (>= 2.14)
12:02<Brigo>but 2.19-18+deb8 version in installed any clue?
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12:03<Brigo>i asked this question in #debian freenode and i was told that this dependencia on libc6-amd64 should not be there.
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12:06<itd>judd: versions btfs
12:06<judd>Package: btfs on amd64 -- sid: 2.12-1; stretch: 2.12-1
12:06<itd>Brigo: Did you backport it yourself?
12:06<Brigo>yes
12:07<Brigo>with apt-get source and apt-get build-dep
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12:07<Brigo>no errors, (if i unpack the .deb and run the executable it works)
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13:14<unergy>is there a nice colourised realtime syslog viewer?
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13:18<unergy>something like 'dmesg -Tw', but that prints the syslog instead of just the kernel log, and with correct timestamps even after suspends.
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14:38*jhutchins wonders what kind of a system dmesg -Tw works on.
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15:05<awal1>jhutchins: what you mean by "what kind of a system dmesg -Tw works on"?
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15:08<juan19>hi
15:10<juan19>i have problem with network car, dont work wifi. Last month with that "apt-get update && sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` firmware-atheros
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15:10<juan19>i fixed but now dont work again
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15:14<jhutchins>awal1: Well, for instance, it doesn't work on i686 Debian 8.
15:15<awal1>jhutchins: ok. works here (sid - amd64)
15:15<jhutchins>juan19: dmesg | grep firmware
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15:15<jhutchins>awal1: Correction, works in 8, had a screen on an older box.
15:17<juan19>https://paste.debian.net/902407/
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15:20<jhutchins>juan19: Looks like you're going to have to do dmesg | less and look for other messages, the firmware appears to have loaded just fine.
15:20<jhutchins>juan19: Please do not paste your entire output.
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15:38<juan19>jhutchins http://paste.debian.net/902412/
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15:43<jhutchins>Sigh.
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15:58<juan19>jhutchins ?
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16:13<itd>What does 'DMI' stand for in '[ 0.000000] DMI: LENOVO 80EC/Lancer 5B3, BIOS A4CN40WW (V 2.09) 08/24/2015'?
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16:13<retrospectacus>juan19: it looks fine, but it's Realtek, not Atheros
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16:14<itd>Then maybe something like this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=208099 ?
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16:14<itd>tl;dr: 'Add "options rtl8723ae fwlps=0" or "options rtl8723be fwlps=0"'.
16:18<retrospectacus>juan19: perhaps you have wired RTL and Atheros wifi. There is nothing there about ath or wifi. Can you see the wifi chip in "lspci -nn"?
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16:33<Echoz>itd: Most likely Desktop Management Interface
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16:42<itd>Echoz: Thanks.
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20:49<guilherme>Hi, how can I test if my usb is working as 3.0?
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20:53<somiaj>guilherme: after you plug in the device, check dmesg, it should say what module grabed it
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20:56<guilherme>somiaj: this was the output, I am not sure, where is it? why this errror?
20:56<guilherme>somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/902459/
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20:59<somiaj>new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd -- I belive xhci_hcd is the usb 3.0 module, double check tha tin google
21:01<guilherme>yes, it seams that it is 3, thanks!
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23:49-!-infinity0_ is "unset" on #debian #debian-mentors #debian-science #debian-rust #debian-mozext #reproducible-summit #reproducible-funding #binary-transparency #reproducible-builds #debian-reproducible #debian-privacy-tools #debian-gnupg #alioth #noisysq #otr #monkeysphere #cryptoparty #tor-project #nottor
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23:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 696] by debhelper
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