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00:15<react>you don't hack planets, you hack gibsons, cmon mang
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02:30<charlie33>hi , ive raninto some kind of wierd problem ,and i need to let a friend connect to the box , but it dosent boot up so we can access via ssh as it should , it just post and start to load grub and then reset and does this in a infinite loop , is it possible to start the computer with a live cd ? and keep all the current settings for further error searching?
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02:33<wigust>charlie33: You can boot liveiso and chroot into your broken system.
02:33<iKarith>charlie33: if you can start the computer with a live image, you should be able to mount all the filesystems and begin sorting out what you broke
02:33<iKarith>In the modern age of &#@(!!*(@!!!!!!!!!! systemd, this is an all too _FREQUENT_ necessity. >:(
02:34<charlie33>thnks , guess its just to download the iso , convert to a usb stick and boot it up ,
02:34<iKarith>WHEN systemd breaks, your system is hosed without a live image.
02:35<charlie33>perhaps time to a usb with a live image all the time :)
02:36<iKarith>Ohh, I've got one!
02:37*iKarith stabs RedHat with the shards of a doritoed gentoo CD from back when people still burned Linux distributions onto CDs
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02:39<charlie33>hehe , going for the standard on atm
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02:41<iKarith>Mind you, I have no objection to a Mac-like init replacement. I am quite familiar with launchd on the Mac and comfortable with its use. Or at least I was once it was documented properly, which is something systemd still doesn't have going for it.
02:45<iKarith>It defies the UNIX philosophy a bit, but launchd is fairly simple compared to systemd. The more than one thing it does are all related things, and it does them with as little additional complexity as they can be done. It runs and oversees processes. It happens to also replace inetd and cron because what those tools do is fairly minimal once you're already providing the rest of what it does.
02:46<bremner>this seems a bit offtopic.
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02:46<iKarith>Probably.
02:47<iKarith>And nothing I have to add to the thing hasn't been said (and ignored) a thousand times before I'm sure.
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03:10<charlie33>when using a livecd to boot from , what password is being used while using root login ?
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03:12<bremner>I think you can just su or sudo
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03:13<bremner>charlie33: try user: user, pw:live to log in
03:13<charlie33>thnks , and i guess ssh is actived at start aswell ?
03:14<bremner>dunno. it's not obvious that a live cd should have an ssh server
03:15<charlie33>guess ill find out :)
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03:22<charlie33>need to setup eth0 aswell on a livecd?
03:24<charlie33>port was disabled in the switch :)
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03:31<charlie33>any idea : when trying to connect to the via ssh : putty ends up with Disconnected : No supported authentication methos server sent publickey ? need to create myself?
03:32<hmhm>charlie33: what livecd are you trying to run exactly?
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03:33<hmhm>right
03:34<hmhm>charlie33: can you ssh to localhost from the livecd?
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03:34<charlie33>hmm havent tried that running windows on this im on atm
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03:38<hmhm>charlie33: https://wiki.debian.org/SSH#Installation_of_the_server
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03:47<charlie33>hmhm: just getting permission denied when trying to remove the ssh files :(
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03:49<bremner>what files are you trying to remove and why?
03:50<charlie33>if i want to login and use root , whats the password for the root login ? ,
03:50<charlie33>Regenerating host keys
03:50<charlie33>.rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*
03:51<bremner>did you try sudo or su?
03:52<charlie33>yeah , perhaps misspelled trying again
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03:55<charlie33>was an uppercase -_ , do i need to restart ssh after creating the new ssh keys ?
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03:56<bremner>probably.
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03:56<bremner>dunno why you needed to create new ssh keys
03:56<charlie33>same error as before when trying to connect via putty to it , damn , ip blocked?
03:58<charlie33>when connecting via putty Disconnected No supported auth methos server sent publickey
03:59<bremner>do you _really_ need to use SSH? isn't there a keyboard on this computer?
04:00<charlie33>need a friend to connect to it , and see if he can sort the problem out , and he aint here :( so yeah i think so :)
04:01<bremner>normally you need the output from ssh -v to solve these kind of problems
04:01<bremner>no idea about putty
04:05<bremner>typically ssh as root will cause problems though. And you may need to check if password login is enabled for sshd
04:07<charlie33>ill see
04:07<charlie33>did try
04:07<charlie33>ssh user@192.168.0.17 warning added 192.168.0.17 to the list of known hosts permission denied pbulickey
04:10<bremner>journalctl -u ssh
04:10<bremner>might need to be root
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04:12<charlie33>hmm error could not load host key etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed255
04:12<charlie33>from the log
04:13<bremner>reinstall openssh-server, and don't mess with it this time,
04:13<bremner>I guess if it's included in the live image, rebooting should be enough
04:14<charlie33>trying , thnks
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05:30<charlie33>bremner: did reinstall ssh , rebooted , still the same issue when trying to connect to it :(
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05:35<bremner>charlie33: same messages in the logs on the server?
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05:37<charlie33>no journal found
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05:39<charlie33>sucks if i have to reinstall os disk just to get ssh to work :( but guess its a sure thing to do an start things over but :(
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05:44<charlie33>bremner: can you send a pm to charlie34 ?
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06:08<deckel>Hello, is there any sources for the checksum files of earlier point releases? It took me ages to download the dvd for debian 8.5 but i forgot to verify the files and now 8.6 is out and Im unable to find the fitting checksum files.
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06:11<wigust_>deckel: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/
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06:17<deckel>Thank you very much. I got lost in the directory structure of the non-archive download mirror and the results of my online search. Thx a lot and have a nice day.
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06:43<timBandTech>How can chromium in testing be at 53 while stable is at 55?
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06:43<SynrGy>timBandTech: easy. testing has no security
06:43<SynrGy>testing users can install it from sid instead.
06:44<SynrGy>!tum
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06:44<SynrGy>ah. dpkg has gone missing
06:44<itd>dselect: tum
06:44<dselect>«echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution.
06:45<itd>SynrGy: That?
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06:49<timBandTech>I have only testing in sources.list so do I need to modify it to get chromium 55?
06:49<SynrGy>dpkg bot has the full answer (present on freenode, at the moment; missing here)
06:49<SynrGy>you set the default release in your apt.conf and add an unstable deb line to your sources.list
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06:49<SynrGy>itd: yes, but i queried dselect to ask and it didn't answer. how strange.
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06:50<SynrGy>timBandTech: so do the above. substitute chromium for foo, and you're all set.
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06:51<SynrGy>timBandTech: also, see #debian-next for testing/unstable support
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06:53<timBandTech>I'm too nervous about getting into unstable.
06:53<htkk>how can help me with a mount: mount -t exfat /dev/sdf1 /mnt/5TBHDD1, ERROR: exFAT file system is not found.
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06:57<wigust_>htkk: I think you need exfat-fuse and mount with fuse
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06:58<SynrGy>timBandTech: you should be more nervous about not having security. this does not make your system unstable. it just allows you to install a few things from unstable as needed.
06:59<SynrGy>timBandTech: if you do apt-get -t unstable install chromium after the necessary setup steps and you don't like the proposed upgrades, you can bail.
07:00<SynrGy>timBandTech: by setting the default release, you ensure that things installed from testing only upgrade to other things from testing, even if a newer unstable version exists.
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07:02<timBandTech>Oh. My understanding of the framework and rationale are not so good. From a broad perspective it seemed that testing was a good place to be, but now I'm not so sure.
07:02<linux>what
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07:02<Guest255>anyone
07:03<itd>Guest255: Hello, how can we help you?
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07:04<SynrGy>itd: mystery solved. since the incident the other day, i'm now +g and hadn't put dselect on my accept list. bleh. one more thing to manage :p
07:05<Guest255>?
07:05<itd>SynrGy: Glad you figured it out. :)
07:05<timBandTech>Thank you SynrGy for your attention and advice.
07:05<Guest255>hello
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07:05<itd>timBandTech: From the debian perspective stable is the place to be.
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07:06<Guest255>what's this
07:06<SynrGy>timBandTech: but if you really insist on using testing, you should probably read up some more on it. we can't point you at the necessary materials and discuss more at length on #debian-next
07:06<Guest255>you are right
07:06<SynrGy>Guest255: you've reached the debian irc support channel. do you have a question about Debian?
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08:40<DiRaOL>Hi all, good morning. I'm facing some issues with ALSA, is there anyone here that can try to help me debug this issues?
08:42<itd>!ask
08:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:44<DiRaOL>I'm helping a friend with her laptop (Dell Vostro 5480), and we are facing some issues regarding the notebook audio.
08:44<DiRaOL>The output of alsa-info.hs is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c4d8aa11ab318203031f036ce30af6e49c1211aa
08:44<DiRaOL>I'm working with Kernel 4.4.0-21
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08:45<DiRaOL>The notebook have a 2.1 audio, provided by the onboard intel soundcard.
08:45<DiRaOL>Initially its subwoofer was not working, and the overall sound was too low (almost can't listen anything).
08:45<DiRaOL>I've managed to improve the sound by using hdajackretask to 'attach' the subwoofer (LFE) to the 'Pin 0x017'.
08:45<DiRaOL>But the sound still not that good, and all outputs seems to be on the same channel (testing the left/right sounds outputs the same on all sound outputs)
08:46<DiRaOL>Any tips on how to deal with this problem? How to make the sound output real 2.1 channels and work as expected?
08:46<itd>DiRaOL: Wait a second, please.
08:46<DiRaOL>ok
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08:46<itd>DiRaOL: Which version of debian is this?
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08:48<DiRaOL>I've testes with Jessie (my 'patches' didn't worked there) and now I'm testing with linux mint 18 (ubuntu 16.04 based) - in which some the 'patches' worked better.
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08:48<itd>!linux mint
08:48<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
08:49<DiRaOL>ok, thanks. see you.
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08:55<user01>should ssh keys be per device or per user?
08:55<user01>actually . . .per login user on each device i should say
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09:41<guilherme>some of my usb ports "stop" working while i am using my notebook, but I am able to turn them on on powertop. How can I configure the autosuspend off?
09:42<guilherme>I toke a look at /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/runtime-pm.conf, but I do not know how to put such features on the blacklist
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10:15<EmleyMoor>I'm trying to access the LVM of a qemu guest I have, from the host machine... I have used qemu-nbd on it to attach it to /dev/nbd0 but I can't get pvscan or lvscan to "see" it
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10:22<mc68040>EmleyMoor: i dont know your exact setup, but maybe you need to use kpartx first to "see" the partitions inside your attached disk
10:22<a2>EmleyMoor, that is not a best practice (manage/operate lvs, vgs of a guest from the hypervisor), anyway you should be able to "see" it, please check if the device are black listed on the hypervisor
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10:24<a2>EmleyMoor, also take care, that to scan the devices mapped to a guest and be able to manage it from the hypervisor should be a real block device, i mean the device mapped shouldn't be a lv or a file
10:25<a2>EmleyMoor, well a file... mmm maybe if you loopback it yes
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10:50<stripe>hi all, running jessie 8, no xorg, trying to change audio output hardware from hdmi to onboard sound but cannot access alsamixer, any ideas what to try next?
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10:52<itd>stripe: Hello, why can't you access alsamixer?
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10:54<stripe>itd hello alsamixer command not found
10:54<desert>try installing alsamixer then
10:54<itd>stripe: alsa-utils
10:55<itd>stripe: (That is the package you need.)
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10:56<stripe>itd thanks mate, got alsamixer now
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11:30<btsimonh>I cross compiles kernel 4.8.7 using my old .config (4.8.0) for arm, and ended up with linux-image-4.8.7_4.8.7-1_armhf.deb, but the device wants 'armmp'; what did i do wrong, or what can i change to get flavour 'armmp'?
11:31<itd>btsimonh: Maybe you want to ask in #debian-arm
11:31<tremon>armmp is multiplatform
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11:32<tremon>it's still an armhf kernel
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11:34<btsimonh>@tremon: dpkg install attempt ends: Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.7 does not match any of the expected flavors (armmp) - Can i force the install?
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11:34<tremon>ah, don't know the answer to that. #debian-arm might though
11:35<btsimonh>:) ta... trying there too;
11:36<tremon>I'm still fighting to get any recentish kernel (with devicetree) to work on my armel NAS
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11:42<btsimonh>@tremon; mine is an 'android stick' - MK802. I've a freecom NAS which needs a retrofit at some point :). Debian install went really easily on MK802 (SDcard), but i need to modify one driver and kernel headers did not work for me.
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11:52<guilherme>how can I set my usb's to control "on" by default? in other words, I do not want the autosuspend on the usb ports
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11:57<rkorkosz>Hi. I have a problem installing debian. I have HP ProBook G1 with intel graphics and my installer looks like the picture. Anyone encountered something like this before? https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/100546459123840905822/6365484073411669954?icm=false&sqid=111202776093075745991&ssid=bbed8c9d-660c-4430-97ed-cb28c1acfeed
11:59<itd>guilherme: It's ubuntu, so be careful: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/06/fix-usb-mouse-not-working-laptop-mode-tools-ubuntu/
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12:00<guilherme>thanks! I already did something like that and worked for the mouse, but not for the ports
12:00<guilherme>I will try this: https://wiki.debian.org/SimplePowerSave
12:01<guilherme>rebooting now, I will be back in a minute
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12:01<itd>rkorkosz: That looks bad. You sure the diplay is ok?
12:02<rkorkosz>it's fine, I'm writing this from xubuntu installed on the same system
12:02<rkorkosz>i mean the same machine
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12:03<itd>rkorkosz: How did you try to install debian?
12:03<guilherme>no, it did not worked :/
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12:06<rkorkosz>itd: i downloaded iso from debian.org and used dd to copy it to usb drive, then booted system from usb drive, and after selecting any option this screen appeared. Note this is UEFI.
12:07<rkorkosz>itd: installer is responsive though. If i hit arrow button red color is moving, so i think it's only display issue
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12:08<itd>rkorkosz: Did you try a live install image?
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12:10<rkorkosz>itd: hmm, not yet, I'll try that in a minute.
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12:12<zeroCool>hi daddy?
12:12<miko>hello
12:13<zeroCool>what do you do?
12:13<miko>I should have said Hello World, it's my first time to join IRC server
12:14<itd>miko, zeroCool: Welcome to the debian stable support channel. How may we help you?
12:14<zeroCool>guauuu
12:14<zeroCool>do you need a mission??
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12:16<miko>Does anyone know how kali handle persistence.. debian seems different
12:16<itd>!kali
12:16<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
12:17<miko>how to change debian persistence.conf location
12:17<miko>?
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12:19<itd>miko: I don't know what you are talking about.
12:21<miko>I want to know how to change the persistence.conf directory on debian persistent live
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12:22<miko>:(
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12:45<MisterRogers>Greetings, I've a question regarding hybrid graphics with a Nvidia GPU ( using a laptop ).
12:45<MisterRogers>I've setup bumblebee and it works fine with GL under X11..
12:46<MisterRogers>However Vulkan applications are not supported by optirun and primusrun.
12:46<MisterRogers>Is there a way to solve this issue?
12:47<MisterRogers>Any more info required, feel free to ask.
12:49<itd>MisterRogers: Vulkan? https://www.khronos.org/vulkan/ ?
12:49<MisterRogers>Yea
12:49<MisterRogers>Also I checked and my GPU is supported by vulkan.
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12:50<MisterRogers>Or rather my driver supports vulkan.
12:50<MisterRogers>Since Vulkan is just a spec.
12:51<blast007>MisterRogers: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/769
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12:55<MisterRogers>Mmm, that from a month ago..
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13:01<MisterRogers>Isn't there a solution like PRIME for Debian? ( Like the nvidia-prime for ubuntu? )
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13:01<MisterRogers>( Like the nvidia-prime package for ubuntu? )*
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13:18<alejandro>cual es la contraseña de usuario?
13:19<itd>!es
13:19<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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14:02<scootergrisen>How can i/we get the Debian GRUB to use correct keymapping?
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14:03<scootergrisen>Some Linux distributions have option to change language and keymap during the boot screen but Debian does not from what i can see
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14:06<harold3>greetings peeps
14:07<itd>harold3: Hello.
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14:12<xmaka>!de
14:12<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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14:13<bugtraq>where can inform debian developer about any bug
14:14<towo`>in the bugtracker
14:15<bugtraq>can you give me an link please
14:15<towo`>kidding?
14:15<towo`>hard to tybe debian bucktracker in a searcheingine?
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14:15<towo`>type
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14:22<stdh>i want to build a website for a small community (about 100 people) with a forum, calendar, blog, something wiki-like, ...
14:23<stdh>what would be a good platform/framework, preferably well supported by debian for easy testing?
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14:27<itd>stdh: how much do you want to do yourself?
14:28<scootergrisen>bugtraq the is a package called reportbug
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14:30<stdh>itd: not too much, i haven't built a website before. but i want to learn
14:31<stdh>the result should be flexible, to add new modules later, and easily maintainable
14:35<itd>stdh: Well, there is wordpress (http://wiki.debian.org/WordPress). I think you should also consider to use different tools for different tasks.
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14:36<tomg>joomla?
14:37<itd>drupal https://wiki.debian.org/Drupal
14:37<tomg>phpwiki? does wordpress really do everything he requested?
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14:37<itd>tomg: Maybe, with plugins.
14:38<stdh>would it be hard to stitch different tools together in a single site?
14:38<tomg>most likely, although my experience is +16 years old
14:38<tomg>since the last time I did something like that
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14:39<tomg>there's movable type too, although they took off their GPL source code of the WW
14:39<tomg>web. it's still available. someone should fork it
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14:40<itd>stdh: if you are happy with example.org/wiki points to wiki tool and example.org/blog points to your blog tool and they don't interact, than it should be doable.
14:41<satbyy>Or Trac or fossil -- mostly used with Version control, but they have wiki and calendar and forum
14:42<satbyy>I think what you're looking for is "groupware" tools
14:42<tomg>fascinating
14:43<stdh>itd: that might be a bit too hard for the intended audience, some of them are quite weak and uncertain technologically
14:43<satbyy>There's many, anything from Owncloud to Zarafa could do
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14:44<scootergrisen>Are there any Debian live images with LXQt?
14:45<stdh>those tools mentioned earlier seem to be CMS's, is there a clear separation between these and groupware?
14:45<itd>!groupware
14:45<dpkg>Groupware is a term used to describe any form of software designed to allow a group of people to easily share ideas and data. Examples include Lotus Notes, Novell GroupWise, and Microsoft Exchange. For Groupware in Debian, see the list at http://wiki.debian.org/Groupware
14:45<itd>!cms
14:46<itd>dpkg: cms
14:46<dpkg>cms is probably Content Management System. See <drupal>, <ezpublish>, <joomla>, <modx>, <plone>, <postnuke>, <phpnuke>, slashcode, scoop, <typo3>, vi + cvs.
14:46<itd>dpkg: thanks.
14:46<dpkg>itd: no problem
14:46<stdh>hm, nice!
14:47<satbyy>vi + cvs
14:47<itd>stdh: you can "/msg dpkg drupal" for more
14:47<satbyy>^ that's the best from dpkg today
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14:50<bruceedwardclerk>hi all
14:51<stdh>the website should "look easy", maybe i'd best pick a framework and use plugins
14:51<stdh>what about hosting? one framework + plugins is probably easier/cheaper?
14:52<stdh>(easier to find)
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14:53<satbyy>most hosting providers have wordpress off-the-shelf
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14:54<harold3>what brand irc client do you all use?
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14:55<itd>harold3: That is not a support question. ;) Try #debian-offtopic.
14:56<stdh>satbyy: would other frameworks in php be a problem?
14:57<satbyy>i've only tried WP and php-horde ... both take time to setup but wouldnt call it a "problem"
14:58<stdh>i've got time... but the community doesn't have a lot of money :)
14:59<satbyy>php is nasty to setup compared to say a python framework
14:59<satbyy>but when it works, oh boy, it does work
14:59<stdh>i see
14:59<stdh>is python readily available with hosting services?
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15:00<stdh>(i have some experience in python, and i've heard some ghastly things about php)
15:00<satbyy>i wouldnt worry so much about the language, choose the package that fits your needs best
15:01<tomg>I had a similar project, to do the same thing for my family. so I'm getting a lot of good free advice now
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15:01<stdh>satbyy: that's good to know, i'd rather not find out there's no hosting services for a site i've worked many hours on
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15:02<stdh>tomg: any tips in particular that may save frustration/time/energy?
15:03<tomg>I never did it, but I think your project is ambitious and you may be encountering a lot of tediousness and frustration
15:04<tomg>take it to make a light solution :p. don't overdo any Python or PHP interconnectivity
15:04<itd>stdh: try it & try it in an environment you can easily reset.
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15:07<stdh>the community is patient and should be happy with whatever they're getting, one step at a time
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15:08<stdh>thank you, friendly folks, you gave me some helpful advice
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15:34<tomg>stdh and thank you
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15:36<Arcade>Hey there: I know that Steam is something you guys don't support directly. I am using Jessie with the backports nvidia driver and Steam no longer launches games using the new nvidia driver. Is there by chance any debugging mode I could enable to see why the games keep crashing on load?
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15:37<tomg>basically none of these cmses are in debian. dpkg bot says "removed from Debian" for almost every one of them
15:38<itd>dpkg: steam
15:38<dpkg>Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable <multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. http://wiki.debian.org/Steam
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15:38<itd>Arcade: Maybe #steamlug ^ can help you.
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15:45<Arcade>ok itd
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15:48<sney>Arcade: unless all opengl stuff is failing to load
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16:19<Arcade>I don't think so sney (glxgears) seems to work. I may have to do some digging
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16:23<towo`>since steam is 32bit only, have you installed the 32bit driver parts too?
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16:27<Arcade>towo`, yep #sudo apt-get install -t jessie-backports libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
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16:29<Arcade>I may roll back for now as the prev nvidia driver and steam was working
16:29<towo`>you should start steam from commandline to see, what's the problem
16:29<somiaj>did you happen to restart xorg after upgrading the nvidia driver?
16:29<Arcade>yeah I have no issues: I think I need to look at debugging a bit more
16:29<somiaj>well and reloadign the new module
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16:31<Arcade>yeah its been rebooted as steam picks up the new driver version and opengl version just fine
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16:43<themagicm>have a question if someone can refer me to a wiki or answer it.. I have an XPS 8300, built in GPU and also an ATI Radeon. I have both enabled and monitors hooked up to both. How do I enable the GPU (its enabled in bios)
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16:44<themagicm>Debian 8
16:46<desert>easiest way to enable a video card is just plug all your monitors into it
16:46<themagicm>yea..thats done. Cant find anything to enable the GPU with the monitor plugged in.
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16:47<themagicm>is it supposed to "just work" ?
16:47<desert>if everything is connected to the video card and you can see the screen then the card is working
16:47<desert>however, unless you install the drivers for the card it won't work to it's full potential
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16:47<themagicm>hmm.. I'll go test. I'll see if the GPU works first before the other vid card.
16:47<themagicm>thanks desert!
16:48<desert>no problem
16:48<themagicm>maybe the problem is something hardware related.
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17:01<themagicm>hmm.. ok. On my Radeon 5770 I have HDMI out and also DVI. Monitors hooked up to both, both work but they are mirrored. I cannot find the setting to not mirror it.
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17:02<themagicm>my bad..wrong vid card. But connection is correct
17:02<sney>radeon gpus require firmware from non-free to work properly
17:02<themagicm>right..but is there a way to not mirror both monitors?
17:03<themagicm>I know i've seen this setting before but its not in "display"
17:03<tomg>xrandr?
17:03<sney>iirc, proper multi-monitor functions is one of the things you will get once you install the firmware. apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree, reboot, and try again
17:03<tomg>you're just talking about a multiple display situatio right?
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17:04<themagicm>sney: already installed
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17:04<themagicm>tomg: correct. 2 monitors to 1 vid card. One hooked up to DVI the other to HDMI
17:04<themagicm>because internal GPU doesnt want to work even when enabled.
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17:06<themagicm>again, it could be something I cannot do. lspci does show Radeon HD 5770
17:06<themagicm>ok.. here it is. http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/5000/5770#
17:07<themagicm>could be wishful thinking on my part as to what I'm trying to do.
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17:32<Arcade>I think what I have found so far is its the nvidia driver or opengl not working quite right on Version 367. Version 340 has no problems. Mat do more testing here in a bit
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17:54<armajedon>hola
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17:56<armajedon>hello
17:56<itd>armajedon: Hello.
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17:56<armajedon>soy nuevo
17:57<itd>!es
17:57<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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18:20<atila__>Mode #canaima +s
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18:21<itd>atila__: Need help?
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18:21<atila__>jejej no thank you :D
18:22<atila__>itd: 0/
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18:48<Dnezar>Hello. I just finished installing Debian Stretch on my laptop. Acer Aspire V3 772. It boots up and then when X is starting the screen starts to flicker. The laptop has an Intel HD graphics card as well as a Nvidia 760M. When I switch to another terminal with CTRL-ALT-F2 and try to log in as root the screen edges start to bleed white pixels until the entire screen goes white. Since I haven't
18:48<Dnezar>used debian since 2010 a lot of things changed and I can't figure out how to stop X from the command line. Help is appreciated.
18:48<itd_>Dnezar: Debian testing is in #debian-next :)
18:48<Dnezar>Ok
18:48<Dnezar>Didn't know :-) Tnx
18:49<itd_>Dnezar: Np. Good luck. :)
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18:52<Dnezar>Well I basicly just need to know the command for stopping the Xserver or desktop manager so I can figure out what's going on. Or how to boot up without X.
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19:39<tis_me>I'm trying to configure a Debian system with an encrypted /boot and /root. I have grub decoding the /boot enough to get the initr and I'm looking to place the keyfile in the initrd. Can anyone point me towards a good example of this on the WWW.
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19:42<tis_me>Dnezar: what used to be "init 3" in SysV is now "systemctl isolate multi-user.target" in systemd
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19:57<somiaj>!nodm
19:57<dpkg>Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/).
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20:21<Arcade>So: I got steam to finally work: I was missing #libgtk2.0-0:i386, and the backup game I was using needed +x (exec)
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20:53<oysterboy>hi - how can I make my pavucontrol settings stick between reboots?
20:54<oysterboy>output sound is always muted after each boot
20:54<oysterboy>I can unmute the sound thanks to pavucontrol, but the setting isn't kept when rebooting
20:54<oysterboy>I'm on Jessie/Stable
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20:55<tomg>Arcade, thanks for letting us know
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21:05<tomg>I don't know why it's not saving automatically, you can try alsactl save
21:06<tomg>or murdering PulseAudio
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21:11<tomg>oysterboy: those two lines were directed at you
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21:14<oysterboy>tomg: thanks! will try alsactl save.
21:14<oysterboy>by murdering :), do you mean uninstalling, or killing the process?
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21:15<tomg>some of each I guess. just saying I don't know PulseAudio that well. and that it had problems
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21:15<tomg>I couldn't find anything like an /etc/init.d/pulseaudio save on duckduckgo.com (search engine)
21:16<tomg>or pulseaudio save or pavolumectl save
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21:18<tomg>guide to removing pulseaudio, it's only one line http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/
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21:56<Arcade>np tomg
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22:29<Arcade>updated wiki
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---Logopened Sun Dec 18 23:50:19 2016
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23:51-!-mwalling is "Mark Walling" on #tor #tardigans #slackware #nottor #help #debian @#oftc #bitlbee #moocows #stayontopicorthebeatingswillcontinue #g7
---Logclosed Sun Dec 18 23:57:19 2016
---Logopened Sun Dec 18 23:57:26 2016
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---Logclosed Mon Dec 19 00:00:13 2016