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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-08

---Logopened Sun Jan 08 00:00:11 2017
---Daychanged Sun Jan 08 2017
00:00-!-drigols is "realname" on #debian #debian-br
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00:06-!-drigols is "realname" on #debian-l10n-br #debian-devel-br #debian-br #debian
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03:37-!-JustStephIt is "S Schneider" on #C #debian-perl #debian-audio #crypto #lxde #debian-mentors #php #tinhat #opendune #steam #debian-multimedia #linuxfriends #ext4 #debian-kde #linux #debian #debian-boinc #cryptoparty
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04:54<norsemannj>Hi, just started with bash scripting yesterday(and converted all my machines to debian a week ago!), and made this script to check my public ip against my openvpn config as a starter, https://paste.debian.net/907602/ . Now, I want to start vpn at boot, check public ip after connection is succesfull, retry if not etc. Can you please give me some pointers, as to how I get the check to occur only after the vpn connection has been established? Different
04:55<Logg>I think this is a freenode #bash question
04:56<norsemannj>Well is it? It's during init/boot right?
04:57<Logg>If you want to do something at boot, use systemd
04:57<Logg>the "something" is bash
04:58<norsemannj>thanks for the hint on systemd, will probably get me where I need!
04:59<Logg>welcome.
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05:07<Gabriel_7>norsemannj: what is dig o-o.myaddr.1.google.com ?
05:07<Gabriel_7>ok got it
05:08<Gabriel_7>norsemannj: why would you got get your IP?
05:09<Gabriel_7>s/got/*not*/
05:10<Gabriel_7>norsemannj: You might want to consider using OpenVPN --ipchange hook.
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05:10<Gabriel_7>https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/Openvpn24ManPage
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05:48<norsemannj>Gabriel_7: nice one, thank you. only skimmed through the openvpn documentation, as debian is what I am focused on atm. Is there like a #debian-noob channel somewhere maybe? I have a lot of stupid (for you) questions running through my head every day, and google can be hard to use sometimes when one doesn't have the right technical terms and jargon(like you do). Mostly I need pointers, I don't expect people to educate me
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05:53<rudi_s>norsemannj: If it's Debian related, this channel is fine. For specific programs, there are often channels on this IRC network or (more likely) on Freenode. There's also Freenode/##linux for general linux questions, but IMO most of them can be asked here as well.
05:53<dtw>norsemannj, this channel should be fine but when things are difficult to explain in short messages a mailing list like debian-user is better.
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05:57<norsemannj>nice to know, gonna finish my debian handbook before I bother you more! thanks
05:57<itd>norsemannj: You may want to use http://www.shellcheck.net/ to test your bash script. :)
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06:00<norsemannj>itd: WOW! You have no idea how happy I am because of that link :D
06:00<norsemannj>Thanks to you all, I'll go back to my studies now.. :)
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06:17<grummund>hi, having copied a .fon file to /usr/local/share/fonts/ it is not found by any app that i tried
06:18<grummund>(ideally, to have it found by emacs and terminal)
06:18<grummund>what's the Right Way to do this?
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06:28<musca>!install font
06:28<dpkg>To install <fonts> for just one user, copy them into ~/.fonts/ and then run fc-cache -fv (or ask me about <install font kde>, <install font gnome>). To install system-wide, copy them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts or into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts (but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf) and run fc-cache -fv as root.
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06:30<musca>or see http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts
06:30<grummund>that works for .ttf but not .fon, it seems.
06:30<musca>hmm
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06:44<musca>grummund: .fon doesn't seem to be a common format, only two debian packages do contain *.fon files
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06:44<musca>~$ apt-file find '.fon' | awk '/\.fon$/ {print $1}'| uniq | wc -l
06:44<musca>2
06:45<grummund>.pcf would do
06:46*grummund is trying to install a few bitmap fonts from here - http://www.proggyfonts.net/download/
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06:48<xcel->http://wiki.goffi.org/wiki/Gcp/en gcp, is there something similar for move? or is it just rsync if you want verbose inormation about the pogress?
06:48<xcel->(yes i know, mv -v)
06:49<itd>grummund: You could try to convert it to .ttf (e.g. https://github.com/ali1234/bitmap2ttf - didn't test it).
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06:50<grummund>itd: thanks but it's a tiny bitmap font
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07:07*grummund copied a .pcf.gz file to /usr/local/share/fonts and then did:
07:07<grummund>cd /usr/local/share/fonts; mkfontscale; mkfontdir; xset +fp /usr/local/share/fonts
07:07<grummund>emacs now sees the font, but not gnome terminal.
07:10<itd>grummund: Did you try to turn it (gnome) off and on again?
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07:11<grummund>ok will try log off/on
07:11<melmothX>gnome terminal sees what fontconfig sees, xset is not relevant
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07:13<melmothX>http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/fc_fixed.html try this maybe
07:13<melmothX>grummund: ^^
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07:13<melmothX>bitmap fonts are disabled by default
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07:17<Commander>Howdy everyone :)
07:18<itd>Commander: Hello.
07:20<Commander>I've been considering using Debian on my home desktop computers, and I've just been wondering if anyone happens to know if it's possible to use the unattended-upgrades package with Debian Testing?
07:21<itd>Commander: For testing please ask in #debian-next.
07:22<Commander>Oh, will do. Thanks for letting me know ^_^
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07:28<grummund>melmothX: thank you
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08:44<halcyon>hello, everyone. i had met some problem. who can help to solve this problem? when i using 'apt update', i got 'NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553 NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010' error
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08:45<itd>!bat
08:45<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
08:46<halcyon>but when i use apt-key list i can find the finger is already in /etc/apt/trusted.gpd.d
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10:59<jrs>hi!
11:00<jrs>i'm trying to get xorg working properly (i.e. 1024x768) on an old T23. is it possible it's still incomplete after "apt install xorg" or am i missing anything else?
11:01<jrs>(the problem is it's only 800x600 and all text looks real ugly, whether in ratpoison or xfce)
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11:01<mtn>jrs: did you install a driver for your card/chip?
11:02<jrs>mtn: yes, the one recommended for this machine, 'xserver-xorg-video-savage'
11:03<mtn>jrs: research your video card/chip and linux. if it is quite old, you may not have much luck with it
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11:07<jrs>mtn: researching that topic is how i found out about the proper driver. i also found various xorg.conf snippets. the resolution stays the same though, whether or not i use an xorg.conf. the IBM ThinkPad T23 is from 2002 and supposed to be well-supported. i would be surprised if the proper resolution couldn't be achieved under jessy.
11:07<mtn>jrs: what is the exact video chip?
11:09<mtn>jrs: in a terminal: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
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11:10<jrs>mtn: that gives 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: S3 Graphics Ltd. SuperSavage IX/C SDR [5333:8c2e] (rev 05)
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11:11<mtn>jrs: maybe this will help you: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=72158
11:11<jrs>second, epiphany won't load that ... need to find some other browser
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11:12<mtn>jrs: this may also give you an idea of what is wrong: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Savage
11:13<itd>jrs: Did you see (and try) the suggestions from: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IBM_ThinkPad_T23
11:13<mtn>jrs: that link says: This decade-old chipset has little support and is likely better off without acceleration.
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11:15<jrs>itd: yes, that archlinux link is one of the sources for my xorg.conf
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11:16<jrs>mtn: i don't expect acceleration. what i do want is the proper 1023x768 resolution, like it works in the framebuffer, too.
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11:16<mtn>jrs: the point was the lack of support for such an old video chip.
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11:17<jrs>mtn: i see
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11:45<jrs>there is really no usable browser for a non-sse system :(
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11:53<jrs>oh! netsurf! that seems to work :)
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13:59<rno>netsurf, inkscape unofficial jessie-backports: https://itryhttps.dynv6.net/?page=debian/05debian.en.htm
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14:51<annadane>hi, really simple question, how do i get java runtime 8 in debian? i've searched a bit and not sure what the package name is
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14:53<captnfab>narcan: "apt install openjdk-8-jre" ?
14:53<captnfab>err, annadane ^
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14:54<Andronas>Hi. I'm an Arch Linux user who is considering moving from Arch Linux to Debian. Does anyone have any specific advice for those making the move? I'm somewhat on the fence about testing/sid. If anyone could offer any advice in that regard, I'd appreciate it.
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14:55<annadane>captnfab: "Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jre"
14:55<sney>Andronas: http://deb.li/sidfaq covers most info you need to start using sid (along with a bit of spice to scare off newbies)
14:56<captnfab>annadane: that's in the jessie-backports repository
14:57<captnfab>so you have to add something like deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main in your sources.list
14:57<Andronas>sney: Cool. So from what you say, you are implying that sid is the best choice? Thank you for the link.
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14:58<sney>eh, it's a mixed bag between testing and sid. most debian 'power users' switch back and forth or use testing with some sid packages, depending on various factors
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14:59<Andronas>Okay. I'm not very familiar with Debian, but I did use Ubuntu once in my distant past. The main thing I want to make sure I get installed is some modification I have made to font rendering. I don't like anti-aliased fonts, so I would like to use the "sharp" version of them.
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15:02<sney>debian's standard text look and feel isn't nearly as 'fuzzy' as ubuntu's though I can't swear to you that they aren't AA at all
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15:06<Andronas>sney: It's kind of like this: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/sharpfonts/
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15:08<Andronas>sney: Example (screenshots) https://www.howtoforge.com/sharp_fonts_gnome
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15:08<sney>Andronas: https://my.mixtape.moe/qgigkc.png it's been a while since winxp for me, but it looks sharp on my screen
15:09<sney>but anyway, I'm sure the exact typeface from your screenshots is possible as well
15:10<annadane>captnfab: thanks, that solved that issue, only problem i'm having now is the program i'm trying to open with java doesn't have java appear in the application list
15:10<Andronas>sney: http://imgur.com/a/WsrBY :)
15:11<Andronas>I feel like the image got compressed x.X
15:11<Andronas>sney: https://s30.postimg.org/v3ha18p41/Screenshot_from_2017_01_08_15_09_43.png
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15:12<sney>yeah I see it, I remember that look now. anyway, the desktop environments you get in debian are largely unmodified from upstream. so if you're using kde, you'd just get the standard kde instructions for changing the font, and so on
15:12<Echoz>annadane: do you have execute permissions on that program?
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15:14<Andronas>sney: okay cool. thank you.
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15:16<annadane>echoz: don't know how to check whether or not that's the case
15:16<annadane>(i assume you mean java and not the program)
15:18<Echoz>annadane: i mean the program, either way you can run it from the command line with "java -jar file"
15:18<Echoz>file being replaced by the name of the file
15:18<itd>annadane: openjdk-8-jre is in backports. you could try openjdk-7-jre
15:18<itd>(forget it)
15:19<annadane>well, the program in question says it requires JRE 8
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15:21<Echoz>annadane: then you probably have to run it with /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
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15:23<sney>!java alternatives
15:23<dpkg>Rather than using update-alternatives (or galternatives) to set each individual alternative for java (and there are lots of them!), use update-java-alternatives. To see a list of the valid java alternatives, use "update-java-alternatives --list". To select the amd64 openjdk-7 java runtime environment, "update-java-alternatives --set java-1.7.0-openjdk-amd64".
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15:29<annadane>echoz: trying to figure out how to actually do that >_>
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15:34<Echoz>annadane: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java -jar file.jar
15:34<Echoz>should do the job
15:38<annadane>echoz: "unable to locate file.jar", and by file.jar i entered the path to it
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15:38<annadane>er sorry, "unable to access", not locate
15:39<annadane>(this is as root)
15:39<Echoz>annadane: try chmod +x file.jar
15:41<annadane>echoz: no such file or directory
15:41<Echoz>are you in the directory where the files is?
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15:42<annadane>echoz: i, being a moron, wasn't; now i am, but chmod +x file.jar still gives no such file or directory
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15:43<Echoz>annadane: does the file have any special chars or spaces?
15:43<annadane>no
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15:43<Echoz>in its name, if so try to enclose the name in quotes
15:44<annadane>echoz: chmod: missing operand after ‘+xfile.jar’
15:44<sney>space
15:44<Echoz>ah you need a space between +x and the file name
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15:45<annadane>yeah, i just realized that, sorry. but anyway, still no such file or directory
15:45<Echoz>and put the quotes only around the file name
15:45<Echoz>ah….
15:45<Echoz>if you do "ls"
15:45<Echoz>can you see it?
15:45<annadane>yep
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15:45<annadane>i wonder if it's case sensitive
15:45<Echoz>annadane: ah yes, it is
15:45<annadane>...it is
15:45<annadane>lol
15:45<annadane>gdi
15:46<annadane>so i've now done chmod
15:46<annadane>will now try the other thing
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15:49<annadane>echoz: well, it does open via command line, though java still doesn't appear in applications
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15:51<Echoz>annadane: what DE do you have?
15:51<annadane>gnome classic
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15:52<Echoz>annadane: I think your best bet is to make a desktop file then
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15:52<Echoz>that runs the program
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15:56<annadane>echoz: sorry, how?
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15:56<Echoz>annadane: I can try to make one for you, but you have to make some changes yourself
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15:57<annadane>i feel like i must be missing something really obvious if java's installed and it can't even locate it in applications
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15:58<annadane>or can i set the default path to /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java?
15:58<Echoz>annadane: im not sure if it's meant to show up as an application
15:58<annadane>mmm
15:58<annadane>well, let me scour the internet to see if anyone else has had this problem
15:58<Echoz>annadane: the more correct way to do it would be to run the update-alternatives thing or whatever it was to get the correct symlink in /usr/bin
15:59<itd>annadane: what would you expect that the application java does?
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15:59<Echoz>annadane: http://echoz.rocks/paste/data/1483909167636
15:59<Echoz>a file much like that, of course replacing the name and the path to the file
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16:08<janonmc>hola
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16:08<itd>janonmc: Hello.
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16:08<annadane>echoz: seems to do the trick
16:08<Echoz>annadane: the file?
16:09<annadane>i mean opening the file opens based on the desktop file you wrote
16:09<annadane>*i mean the file opens
16:11<annadane>thanks so much for your help
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16:12<Echoz>annadane: that's good, anytime :)
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16:15<janonmc>hola spanish
16:16<itd>!es
16:16<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
16:16<janonmc>gracias
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16:29<grummund>anyone know where the X font path is set?
16:30<grummund>or how to make this persistent? - xset +fp /usr/local/share/fonts/pcf
16:33<Echoz>grummund: could be added to .xinitrc
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16:37<rno>grummund: /etc/X11/xorg.conf , section file , entry fontpath
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16:50<grummund>rno: awesome, thank you.
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20:37<Luka>hola
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20:38<Luka>rfvwv
20:38<Luka>avw
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22:11<bgray>Hello, what's the best way to try (without installing) Debian testing? Is there a tesing LiveCD?
22:12<xyzone>bgray, not that I know of
22:14<dcosnet>just try it in a virtual machine
22:14<bgray>xyzone: Ok, thanks! From looking around, that's what I was thinking.
22:14<bgray>dcosnet: Yep, that's what I'll end up doing.
22:14<dcosnet>use virtualbox if on windows
22:14<dcosnet>or vmware
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22:15<bgray>dcosnet: On Ubuntu now and will VB. I was just hoping to get a better feel for hardware support.
22:15<dcosnet>id suggest virt-manager if on a gnu/linux
22:15<dcosnet>that has native vm support
22:16<dcosnet>kernel level with kvm and backend with libvirt
22:16<bgray>dcosnet: I'll give that a shot. Thanks!
22:17<dcosnet>may require a custom kernel if debian forgot some vlan stuff
22:17*dcosnet shrugs i build my own usually
22:18<xyzone>virtio works, not sure about the gpu
22:19<dcosnet>ah
22:19<xyzone>the ease of kernel packaging is the reason I use debian, pretty much.
22:19<dcosnet>ya it is nice
22:20<dcosnet>i recently built one myself completely oficial debian maintainer style
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22:20<dcosnet>dcos.net first post
22:21<dcosnet>look at directory for checksums
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