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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-12

---Logopened Thu Jan 12 00:00:58 2017
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00:08-!-FOXNEWS is "realname" on #debian #scanner-radio #hamradio #2600 #/out/ #Florida #Hack4Jesus
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00:08-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-nordic #debian.se #debian-next
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00:13-!-linuxmodder is "Corey Sheldon" on #smxi #apparmor #codesurfers #Corsair #debian #ext4 #fossology #fosscar #freenode #gcc #https-everywhere #ipv6 #irssi #kvm #linux #oftc #openbox #openstack
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00:15-!-octal is "Octavio Alvarez" on #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-es #debian-gnome #debian-ipv6 #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mx #debian-next @#pinpoint #packaging
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00:20-!-breitenj is "Julian Breiteneicher" on #tor #debian #tor-de #tor-project
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00:23-!-cpaelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #debian #debian-qemu
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00:29-!-Fin is "New Now Know How" on #debian
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00:38-!-JanC_ is "Jan Claeys" on #apparmor #debian #debian-derivatives #debian-nl #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #linux-nfs #quodlibet #debian-fonts #bcache
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00:49-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
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01:50-!-breitenj is "Julian Breiteneicher" on #tor #debian #tor-de #tor-project
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02:57-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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03:52<Celelibi>Isn't there another kernel version packaged than 3.16 and 4.8 ?
03:53<Celelibi>3.16 doesn't have the drivers for my hardware and 4.8 is so buggy it's unusable.
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03:58<Praxis>I switched a Debian Jessie hard drive that had been using the Nvidia driver to a new Intel machine and purged all the nvidia packages, removed the xorg.conf, updated the initramfs, checked for blacklists in /etc/modules.d, rebooted, but /var/Xorg.log.0 still seems to be trying to launch the nvidia driver and I can't get into X. Any hits with a clue stick?
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03:58<jm_>Celelibi: for stable? no
03:59<Celelibi>jm_: not necessarily for stable. I usually use testing.
03:59<jm_>Praxis: also looked in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and xorg.conf.d/*?
03:59<Celelibi>I even looked at experimental, there doesn't seem to be a kernel other than 3.16 or 4.8
03:59<jm_>Celelibi: then you could look on the snapshot site
04:00<Praxis>I'll look jm_
04:00<Celelibi>Actually, I'll try without nouveau first.
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04:03<Celelibi>Well, it looks like it was nouveau that produced the bug.
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04:07<Praxis>There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf any more, jm_ but there is a etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf file. Should I just 'rm' it?
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04:09<jm_>Praxis: yes
04:09<Praxis>Thanks jm_ Rebooting
04:09<jm_>no problem, shouldn't need to reboot
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04:13<Praxis>That seemed to do the trick, jm_
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04:33<wantplay>anyhacker here
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04:36<TotallyNotKim>,-- Professional wood hacker
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04:36<petn-randall>!hacker
04:36<dpkg>it has been said that hacker is someone that hacks. See <hacking>, or an interesting essay can be found at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html . Someone who plays with stuff, and figures things out just to satisfy his own idle curiosity.
04:37<petn-randall>wantplay: Are you using Kali?
04:37<wantplay>yes
04:37<petn-randall>!kali
04:37<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
04:37<TotallyNotKim>alright bye
04:37<petn-randall>wantplay: ^^^
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04:39<wantplay>do you know torchat on linux it is more scure
04:40<wantplay>i just have some questions about weevely
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04:41<TotallyNotKim>not here I guess
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04:42<itd>wantplay: Connect to chat.freenode.net and join #kali-linux - they can help you.
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04:43<petn-randall>wantplay: Please don't PM people unasked.
04:44<petn-randall>wantplay: You're in the wrong channel, this is for Debian support. Connect to the Kali channel above to talk with other Kali users.
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05:18<Celelibi>With 32GB or RAM, should I really use a swap partition?
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05:19<sammy88>hi how do i install gparted? i tried using sudo-apt-get install but i have unable to locate package gparted
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05:20<sammy88>i have a clean install of debian jessie
05:20<itd>sammy88: Try to run "apt update".
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05:21<itd>dpkg: tell sammy88 about bat
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05:21<itd>sammy88: If that does not help post the information dpkg is asking for. :)
05:21<sammy88>i did try sudo apt-get update
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05:22<sammy88>should i add some new repos?
05:22<sammy88>E: Unable to locate package gparted
05:23<sammy88>i tried using synaptic but it also warned me of broken packages
05:24<itd>sammy88: Please read what dpkg wrote and post the link to the paste here.
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05:37<petn-randall>Celelibi: Depends on what you want to do. If you want to use hibernate, it should be at least that size. But even on servers/desktops, it still makes sense.
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05:54<Celelibi>petn-randall: ok, I'll reinstall with a swap.
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05:54<Celelibi>Should I put the swap on the SSD?
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06:05<petn-randall>Celelibi: I'd do it, yes.
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06:09<grawity>well, it's sure faster, but also wears out the SSD a bit more
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06:10<grawity>and tbh, if your system swaps so much that keeping it on HDD is too slow... ought to get more RAM.
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06:10<Celelibi>With 32GB, I don't plan to swap at all.
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06:13<grawity>then don't waste precious SSD space for it
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06:14<grawity>ah, although
06:14<grawity>you didn't answer whether you want to use hibernation
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06:21<petn-randall>grawity: So the SSD might wear out in 15 years, so what? It's been replaced several times by newer hardware by then.
06:21<Celelibi>grawity: Well, for a laptop, that may be useful.
06:22<Celelibi>It's my pro laptop, so w'd have backups and if it fails, will be replaced.
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06:24<cruncher>Celelibi, so could you do an image of the win partition and install debian by now?
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06:27<Celelibi>not yet.
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06:28<Celelibi>cruncher: But now that I have a working debian, I should be able to do things myself.
06:28<cruncher>btw, how big is the ssd and the hd?
06:28<Celelibi>512GB + 1TB.
06:29<cruncher>nice machine
06:29<Celelibi>Indeed. :)
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06:37<chris_>Hi guys, I am desperate to find help configuring internet access on debian jessie 8.0.4 - is there some debian god in here? :)
06:38<chris_>and in advance: I searched the whole web for help but none of the solutions seem to fit
06:38<Celelibi>Maybe try to explain your issue first.
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06:43<chris_>Hi Celelibi, the problem is, that I can ping all addresses inside my LAN, but I can't ping anything outside (e.g. 8.8.8.8) - At the same time, I can operate normally on a Windows 2012 Server in the same network using the same gateway
06:44<Celelibi>route -n
06:44<chris_>Ziel Router Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
06:45<chris_>0.0.0.0 10.44.255.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
06:45<chris_>10.44.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
06:45<jm_>start by checking if you can ping the GW
06:45<chris_>gateway is configured in /etc/network/interfaces and reachable
06:47<Celelibi>BTW, what is your gateway? Is it a linux box you could run a wireshark on?
06:47<chris_>no, it is a cisco 891
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06:54<chris_>any idea what I can check else?
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07:10<chris_>no?
07:10<jm_>well you'll have to check on the cisco so maybe find a channel for that
07:11<chris_>why check on the cisco? It works well on the windows server
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07:12<chris_>same network, same gateway, different system - can't be the gateway
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08:02<Celelibi>Is there a tool to share a pointer between two distinct systems?
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08:02<Celelibi>Like, two laptops next to each other.
08:03<Celelibi>It would be cool to have a single mouse.
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08:03<abrotman>dpkg: synergy
08:03<dpkg>Synergy is a client/server program for sharing a keyboard and mouse between multiple systems (Linux, Mac OS X, Windows). http://synergy-foss.org/wiki/User http://synergy-foss.org/ #synergy on irc.freenode.net.
08:03<abrotman>like that?
08:03<Celelibi>The description looks nice. :)
08:04<abrotman>or you can use something like VNC
08:05<Celelibi>Nah, I want to use all the screens.
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08:47<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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09:59<frabet>hi i need save all copy (ctrl + c)
10:00<frabet>for example i run command getcopy and it print all copy i do
10:01<frabet>it is possible ?
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10:11<user>can you help me ?
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10:15<musca>hello Guest400
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10:17<musca>Guest400: you have reached the general debian linux support channel. What's the question?
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10:19<musca>exotic ip ^
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10:24<TotallyNotKim>Africa/Mogadishu, Somali
10:24<TotallyNotKim>International too :D
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11:06<frabet>I need to save all the copy and paste I do
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11:07<frabet>there is a program that does what ?
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11:08<quinn>Clipboard managers do that.
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11:08<quinn>When using an application in wine I get error 12169, which appears to mean it was unable to verify the SSL certificate of a site. How can I fix this, since native applications have no issues with the site.
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11:10<petn-randall>quinn: Can you show us the complete output of the error, together with info on the windows binary you're trying to run?
11:11<quinn>Yep
11:11<petn-randall>quinn: http://paste.debian.net
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11:11<GLolol>check that ca-certificates is installed, maybe?
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11:13<quinn>I did verify that it was installed and that the directory was populated with what seemed to be valid certs
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11:15<quinn>I get no stdout/err for this application.
11:16<quinn>The only information I have is from its in-application log output.
11:16<petn-randall>quinn: Can you tell what application that is?
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11:16<quinn>This is utorrent 2.2.1 attempting to download an RSS feed from an HTTP server.
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11:17<quinn>In the logger I get output 'RSS: Unable to download "https://<url>": Error 12169'
11:18<petn-randall>quinn: I'm guessing that wine has it's own CA storage, and you need to populate that. Note that Debian already ships with quite a few torrent clients, you could also pick one of them.
11:18<quinn>I could switch to another client. No real reason not to other than I have it set up the way I like itTM
11:18<quinn>lol
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11:21<frabet>i resolve
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11:21<frabet>use gpaste in gnome
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11:54<hralm>hi
11:54<hralm>Im with a skylake mini computer
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11:54<hralm>would to know if I need some type of different setup to debian work
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11:55<petn-randall>hralm: It should all work fine, you might need a newer kernel from backports to use the GPU acceleration, but that should be it.
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11:56<hralm>thanks!
11:56<hralm>you know which kernel version is needed, or where to look?
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11:57<petn-randall>,kernels
11:57<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.15-2); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.15-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1)
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11:58<petn-randall>hralm: Just do a standard jessie installation. If it works fine, no work needed. If you see poor GPU performance, just add the jessie-backports repository to your sources.list and install a kernel from there.
11:58<petn-randall>!jessie-backport
11:58<petn-randall>!jessie-backports
11:58<dpkg>Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
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11:59<mad_g>anybody here play RedEclipe?
12:00<mad_g>RedEclipse
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12:01<lostatwork>mad_g: not in a long time
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12:02<mad_g>you know how I can create a local server? A lan server?
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12:02<petn-randall>mad_g: There should be some useful hints in /usr/share/doc/redeclipse/
12:02<petn-randall>mad_g: Maybe there's even a systemd unit file or a init script for it.
12:03<mad_g>thx petn-randall
12:03<Echoz>mad_g: at least you need the package redeclipse-server
12:03<mad_g>@petn-randall thx
12:04<mad_g>Im in a lan with proxy and cant open www.redeclipse.net for guide
12:05<mad_g>And can´t connect to the irc chat of RedEclipse :(
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12:10<Echoz>mad_g: just running redeclipse-server and then "/connect localhost" worked for me
12:11<Echoz>created a game with bots though, which you may or may not want, there are some example configs in /usr/share/doc/redeclipse/examples/
12:12<mad_g>ok!! Thx
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12:13<mad_g>example folder don´t exist!
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12:27<jhutchins>mad_g: http://redeclipse.net/wiki/Server_Setup
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12:41<Celelibi>Looks like there are two VGA controller in my laptop. Are they both connected to the same screen?
12:42<Celelibi>If so, how do I choose which one should be in control of the screen?
12:42<jhutchins>Celelibi: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics
12:43<jhutchins>How do people buy laptops and not know that feature is there?
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12:43<Celelibi>Because marketing websites aren't that technical.
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12:45<blast007>even the technical specifications don't generally make it clear
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12:46<Celelibi>I actually only choosed that there should be an GTX 1070 in it. The Intel GPU wasn't anticipated.
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12:48<bluca>https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
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12:48<bluca>if it's an optimus system, and it most likely is, unless there's a BIOS option to choose the display will be driven by the intel card
12:49<bluca>using bumblebee rendering can be shifted on the nvidia card on-demand
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12:51<petn-randall>jhutchins: Some people don't care about technical details and just want their hardware to work, I find it completely ok to not know about such intricate details as an end user.
12:51<Jeff1961>I am trying to configure debian so that I can dump windows in all its hell spawned forms, and having a couple of problems.
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12:51<iper____>Hello
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12:51<Jeff1961>hello, iper
12:52<iper____>Brigo is here
12:52<Celelibi>bluca: thanks, I'll look at that.
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12:53<Jeff1961>Anyone got time to help a prehistoric geezer type with some linux problems?
12:54<blast007>we won't know until you let us know what the problems are :)
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12:54<Jeff1961>1) cant get debian to boot to the gui, and 2) everytime I try to load the network adapter driver for the onboard nic, it refuses to accept it.
12:55<Jeff1961>And when I say prehistoric, I mean it. My first ham radio was a heath kit that I built and it had TUBES
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12:56<blast007>any idea what graphics chip you have?
12:57<musca>Jeff1961: welcome to the angry greybeards spoonfeeding channel
12:57<musca>just kidding
12:57<Jeff1961>The debian iso I have actually has the nvidia drivers I need in it
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12:57<blast007>what ISO did you use?
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12:58<Jeff1961>it is the realtek nic that seems to be the issue, both in debian and Ubuntu. The Debian ISO was AMD 64, 8.6.0 ISO 1
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12:59<Jeff1961>I have the alleged drivers for linux from realtek, they just dont seem to affect the nic controls in Debian
12:59<blast007>you're probably missing firmware, not drivers
12:59<Jeff1961>I have AMD 64 ISO 1-3
13:00<Jeff1961>great, where do I find the firmware? The mother board site directs you to each individual componant website.
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13:01<blast007>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-realtek/download download that, and get it onto your system with the realtek card (mounting the disk as necessary), and then install it with 'dpkg -i /path/to/firmware-realtek_0.43_all.deb'
13:01<blast007>then there's probably some way to reload the driver module so it loads the firmware, but a reboot should also work
13:02<musca>!firmware images
13:02<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
13:02<blast007>Jeff1961: is the system already installed?
13:02<Jeff1961>yeah, on another hard drive.
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13:03<blast007>then I'd suggest trying to install that .deb file
13:03<musca>yes
13:03<Jeff1961>As soon as I can get it working, I plan to format my windows drive, contact a voodoo priest or priestess and put a curse on all microsoft developers
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13:04<blast007>as for the GUI, did you tell it to install a desktop environment during the install process?
13:06<Jeff1961>uh, never saw that option, but I am considering doing a fresh reinstall. For some reason the drive it loaded on formated in a bizarre way, a 100 gig and 400 gig partitions, and from what I have read and understand, it should not have done that
13:06<blast007>depends on how you want it partitioned
13:06<blast007>it was probably a 100GB root and a 400GB home
13:08<Jeff1961>I dont care as long as it works. But the appeal for linux to me is two fold. There are some radio kits that actually use Debian in programing the radios, and I found out I can run many of the old windows games through WINE.
13:09<Jeff1961>And I have never heard of linux eating itself after an update
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13:11<Jeff1961>thanks for the help, hopefully next time I log in here, I will be on debian and not in windows.
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15:00<heibol>e.e I've problem with a 2TB HDD, I delate all partions and now the system only recognize 93.2 GB, I don't know why... output of fdisk --> http://paste.debian.net/908494/
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15:03<grindhold>i am currently playing around with lxc on jessie and i can only install debian wheezy containers with lxc-create -t download. i'd prefer stretch-containers but at least jessie-containers are a requirement for me. what do i have to do to add thosE?
15:03<rhiamom>how is it formatted? I know 2 T is the max for Linux right now, and I have one that is recognized at full size
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15:07<Rebel347>Hola
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15:08<heibol>because I did "dd /dev/random", I didn't formating, just delate, I remember the hdd had 3 partitions, the biggest (2TB) was exfat.
15:08<blast007>grindhold: can you elaborate a bit? I recall with KVM that there might not have been a 'jessie' option, but it was just because the 'wheezy' option created the right kind of environment to run wheezy and newer.
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15:09<Rebel347>Hello
15:09<grindhold>blast007: okay, so i might just sed 's/wheezy/jessie/g' /etc/apt/sources.list and be happy? :)
15:10<rhiamom>maybe because you did not format it is is not seen as usable space?
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15:10<grindhold>blast007: i just wondered. i read that lxc will simply check images.linuxcontainers.org for the list of available systems
15:10<itd_>Rebel347: Hello.
15:10<grindhold>and that list contains far more options than what is shown to me onmy server
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15:11<blast007>grindhold: dunno. with KVM you still told it to install jessie, it's just that the hardware profile or something like that was for wheezy+.
15:11<blast007>I've not used LXC.
15:12<Rebel347>Not inglish!!!
15:12<itd_>!es
15:12<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
15:12<itd_>Rebel347: ^
15:13<blast007>grindhold: you might need a newer LXC. https://wiki.debian.org/LXC "LXC 1.0 is available in Jessie. LXC 2.0 is available in Stretch and Jessie Backports." http://us.images.linuxcontainers.org/ shows that jessie is available only for LXC 1.1 and up if it's an unprivileged container.
15:13<itd_>heibol: Tried to delete the current partition table and create a new one?
15:14<grindhold>blast007: that's a nice hint. thanks. will add the backports repo
15:14<heibol>itd_: I did it. :/, the 93.2GB it'susable, but the "real" space is 2TB.
15:16<blast007>heibol: can you pastebin the contents of: smartctl -a /dev/sdg
15:17<blast007>heibol: (might need to install smartmontools to get that command)
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15:17<heibol>http://paste.debian.net/908501/
15:17<heibol>:(
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15:18<blast007>ah, it's some external USB drive?
15:19<heibol>yes, maybe could be the HPA?
15:19<Rebel347>someone speaks spanish??
15:19<blast007>heibol: could be a fake drive
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15:19<heibol>D:
15:20<zykotick9>Rebel347: Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
15:20<blast007>heibol: for example: http://img.izismile.com/img/img5/20120420/640/another_chinese_fake_product_640_02.jpg
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15:20<itd_>heibol: Or try with "-d sat" (see: http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/39064 )
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15:21<heibol>okay, I'm going to disassemble. e.e
15:21<blast007>try the -d sat that itd_ mentioned
15:21<blast007>smartctl -a -d sat /dev/sdg
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15:23<heibol>it doesn't work either.
15:23<Rebel347>okay
15:23<blast007>try usbcypress, usbjmicron, or usbsunplus instead of sat, then
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15:26<heibol>seme error "Read Device Identity failed: scsi error unsupported scsi opcode"
15:27<mots>Why not just dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg bs=4k and wait? Something tells me taht it wont stop after 93GB.
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15:28<blast007>pretty sure that's what they did that made it show up as 93GB instead of 2TB
15:28<blast007>it's now showing that a partition is 93GB, it's showing that the disk itself is 93GB
15:29<grindhold>blast007: thanks for that hint! using the version from jessie-backports vanquished virtually all the hardships i was dealing with in one epic strike :D
15:29<blast007>odds are it's a fake disk and they might have had the partition table faked to show a 2TB partition
15:29<blast007>grindhold: awesome :D
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15:31<heibol>hdparm =N http://paste.debian.net/908504/
15:31<blast007>heibol: http://superuser.com/questions/270194/how-is-the-capacity-of-a-harddisk-faked
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15:33<heibol>e.e
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15:34<heibol>I'm definitely going to dessembled
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15:41<jhutchins>heibol: I would definitely check that with parted instead of fdisk. If it still looks funky then hardware error is likely.
15:42<itd_>jhutchins: Why would you recommend to check with parted? :)
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15:43<jhutchins>itd_: Because it's a 2TB drive, because checking your tools/instrumentation is a critical part of troublshooting, because it's a quick easy step that saves tearing the thing down.
15:43<jhutchins>I'd probably also check it with smartmontools.
15:44<blast007>jhutchins: we tried with smartctl, it couldn't read it
15:45<jhutchins>blast007: Which is either bad or just one of the ones that doesn't work with smart.
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15:45<heibol>it's fake hdd e.e, shit.....
15:46<blast007>what was inside?
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15:48<heibol>a deteriorate hard drive.
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15:52<heibol>thanks for help anyway, and sorry >.<
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15:53<heibol>sharing a life experience x'D
15:53<blast007>might be worth getting a refund, and telling them you won't be sending it back because you're not gonna ship counterfit items
15:53<heibol>https://i.imgur.com/46QJX4O.jpg look
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15:54<heibol>I'll open a dispute.
15:55<blast007>wow.. nice.
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15:56<blast007>is that Samsung label over top of another label?
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15:57<heibol>Yes
15:58<blast007>nice. wonder if it's a drive from the 2011 Thailand floods. :)
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16:11<heibol>well... Tomorrow I will go to buy a good HDD, never more in aliexpress, just orange pi. xD
16:12<heibol>The good thing is.... I'va a new usb hdd case (?
16:14<heibol>thanks blast007 for the help. :)
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16:14<blast007>you're welcome.
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18:01<SeaBass>Hi there
18:01<SeaBass>I need some assistance
18:02<lostatwork>!ask
18:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:03<SeaBass>I have a problem with a Debian 7 VPS. I have 2 assigned IPs and I want to change the automatic IP to be the second one.
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18:10<musca>yes, has lightspeed in his hostmask and left
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18:18<pothos>hello, anyone running sid and has a broken systemd now as well?
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18:20<pothos>upgrade spitted many "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1': timed out" and then stopped
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18:20<itd_>pothos: #debian-next
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18:21<itd_>pothos: #debian is for stable support.
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18:21<pothos>@itd_ thanks
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18:22<cruncher>before i start etsting them all, is there a text editor in the debian repo that can handle very long text files?
18:23<cruncher>*testing
18:23<cruncher>like >200MB big or so?
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18:31<cruncher>i forgot to mention "fast", but nevermind, already tested them
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18:59<sxdw>Hi guys, just installed testing, and when I try to install tp-smapi-dkms I get Module build for kernel 4.7.0-1-amd64 was skipped since the
19:00<sxdw>kernel headers for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
19:01<sxdw>apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) fails with Unable to locate package linux-headers-4.7.0-1-amd64
19:01<sxdw>any help will be appreciated
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19:02<zykotick9>sxdw: 1) more then just "guys" in debian irc channels and 2) support for testing/sid is #debian-next on this network
19:03<sxdw>sorry about testing
19:04<sxdw>and by guys I really do not have just males in mind, it is a general greeting
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19:35<Echoz>is there still a way to boot in vga text mode in debian 8?
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19:35<nmschulte>Echoz: I imagine you put a vga= option to the kernel boot during bootloader/initrd handoff?
19:36<nmschulte>single user will put you to a console
19:37<Echoz>nmschulte: no it changes to my native resolution and i get that new font
19:37<musca>you can append a " 3" to the commandline to boot into multiuser.target
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19:38<Echoz>musca: im not talking about runlevels, i just want the old vga compatible text mode instead of this new framebuffer
19:38<musca>i see
19:38<nmschulte>what do you mean "vga compat."? a certain # of lines/cols?
19:39<Echoz>the vga parameter in grub doesnt do the job anymore
19:39<nmschulte>it sounds like you want an entirely different driver, and I'm not sure if you can
19:39<nmschulte>rather, I suspect you can, but I am unfamiliar.
19:40<nmschulte>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA-compatible_text_mode
19:40<Echoz>nmschulte: this has been working pre-systemd, though
19:40<nmschulte>The Linux console traditionally uses hardware VGA-compatible text modes
19:41<nmschulte>That's what I thought. It probably already is using VGA-compat. console.
19:41<nmschulte>Something might be bumping it up to something else though, during boot.
19:41<musca>Echoz: it was obsoleted by KMS
19:41<nmschulte>I think I know the "pixel"-font -> fancy font switch-over you're referring to during boot.
19:42<Echoz>nmschulte: exactly, while i enter my encryption key it looks correct. and then i get this new eye straining look
19:42<Echoz>i mean passphrase
19:42<nmschulte>http://www.systutorials.com/38942/configuration-of-linux-kernel-video-mode/
19:42<nmschulte>What are you entering your key to?
19:42<nmschulte>GRUB (early crypto), or initrd?
19:42<Echoz>grub
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19:43<nmschulte>Does your GRUB use the fancy font? I think mine does.
19:43<musca>GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=640x480 in /etc/default/grub
19:43<Echoz>actually no, early init, and yes it does
19:43<nmschulte>Yeah, initrd drops it back down.
19:44<nmschulte>And then somewhere after cryptodisk.target, it gets bumped back up
19:44<Echoz>nmschulte: exactly, id just like it to not do that. grub isnt that important if displayed wrong
19:45<nmschulte>I'm confused as to why you think the new tech is worse though -- is it 'cz you're using a VGA display?
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19:46<nmschulte>I imagine you need to disable KMS or such.
19:46<nmschulte>As musca said, I think. maybe that grub config will help, dunno
19:47<Echoz>nmschulte: i prefer the 80x25 size and the font mainly
19:47<musca>and yes, this setting interferes with kms
19:47<nmschulte>You can get the 80x25, and likely the font. I thought the new font was just an antialiased/hinted version of the old, though. it should look _great_
19:49<Echoz>it's quite a lot more different
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19:50<nmschulte>Interesting. I'll have to try w/o quiet sometime and see if I notice.
19:50<Echoz>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Codepage-437.png
19:50<Echoz>this is how i want it
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19:51<nmschulte>Oh yeah, gotcha. So, when you _do_ see the non-AA font, it's still the wrong font?
19:51<Echoz>Yeah
19:52<nmschulte>Anyway, this is tanget, and doesn't matter much. I think you've got a solution; kudos on the disk encryption, checkout GRUB earlycrypto and encrypted /boot
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19:53<Echoz>nmschulte: yeah i'll look into it, just reset it after checkig vbeinfo in grub
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19:58<Echoz>nomodeset got me the right screen size
19:58<Echoz>but font still changes
19:59<musca>I'm out
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20:11<mtcj>Is anyone familiar with whether or not compositing can be disabled in the Cinnamon desktop environment?
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20:13<GLolol>mtcj: i don't think that's possible
20:13<mtcj>I think you're right
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20:16<Echoz>I figured it it out. added nomodeset to grub and chose UTF-8, Lat1 and 8x16. at least it looks right now
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20:18<Echoz>the latter part being in dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
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22:36<Dark-Jedi>I'm not even sure where to report this odd bug... I'm on Debian KDE, using Konversation. When Konversation opened the first time I signed in to this network to get onto the #debian chatroom. Konversation says this IRC network is Freenode, when it's actually OFTC.
22:37<Dark-Jedi>Who do I tell to change the Konversation preconfig so the IRC network is correctly identified?
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22:40<xcuzme>dvs: oh! you there
22:40<xcuzme>I've done this install, but it doesnt work on Windows 10.
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23:13<dvs>xcuzme, I don't have Windows 10 so I can't help
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23:14<xcuzme>dvs: I suppose... I'll check on debian's website something
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23:35<awal1>Dark-Jedi, any bug affecting any debian pkg should be, usually, reported to submit@bugs.debian.org
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23:40<twb>mdadm question -- why is this still "resync=PENDING" instead of actually resyncing? http://sprunge.us/gOSC
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23:45<twb>Ah if I do some writes to it --- such as e2fsck'ing an LV on it, then it starts resyncing
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23:45<twb>Odd
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