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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-17

---Logopened Tue Jan 17 00:00:05 2017
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00:02-!-sio is "Sio Thalean" on #debian
00:03<sio>yo watup
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00:03-!-eper3z is "edward" on #vserver #tor #suckless #debian-offtopic #debian #virt
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00:42-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:46-!-alvarezp is "Octavio Alvarez" on @#gusolmexico #frab #debian-mx #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-ipv6 #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian
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02:24<vonsyd0w>test
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02:25<themill>vonsyd0w: test failed
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02:34-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on @#debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
02:34<M_aD>anyone knows why the created bootable media (usb stick) is named HACK1 instead of Debian 8.7.0 M-A 1? I used the netboot iso. 8.6.0 was named correctly Debian 8.6.0 M-A 1
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02:38<jm_>https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2017/01/msg00011.html
02:39<M_aD>jm_: thanks
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02:40<jm_>no problem
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05:14<annadane>hi i'm trying to find the option to select the audio source as my headphones, on xfce
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05:14<petn-randall>annadane: install 'pavucontrol', you can use that to change the audio source and more.
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05:23<annadane>petn-randall: did that, now trying to select headphones as the sound source but says "unplugged" when plugged in and no sound
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05:23<annadane>these are usb headphones
05:24<annadane>maybe i need to check whether the system recognizes them at all before anything
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05:27<annadane>it apparently is listed?
05:27<petn-randall>annadane: Configuration → Profile → (select something called USB headset or similar)
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05:30<annadane>petn-randall: "built-in audio" doesn't list the headphones, but then under that it does list the headset, however none of those options work either
05:31<annadane>"output devices" does list the headphones and it also isn't muted
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05:33<annadane>i'm an idiot and i fixed it
05:33<annadane>i just had to toggle it in "playback", not output devices
05:33<annadane>but thanks
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05:38<petn-randall>annadane: Ah, glad you found it.
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06:23<joelkraehemann>hi usuario00
06:23<joelkraehemann>!ask
06:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:27<joelkraehemann>oh
06:27<joelkraehemann>!ask
06:27<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:31<Neikius>Hello
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08:33<Neikius>Trying to install sdfs, need fuse module to work, "modprobe fuse" -> error -> dmesg | tail says "fuse: Unknown symbol setattr_prepare (err 0)"; found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35397318/error-could-not-insert-fuse-unknown-symbol-in-module-or-unknown-parameter ; no solutions
08:33<Neikius>Is there any other solution besides (probably) compiling the module by myself?
08:34<musca>,v sdfs
08:34<judd>No package named 'sdfs' was found in amd64.
08:34<themill>What's the output of "uname -a" and "apt-cache policy linux-image-$(uname -r)"
08:34<Neikius>sdfs -> http://opendedup.org/odd/linux-quickstart-guide/
08:35<Neikius>sorry, debian 8.7
08:35<Neikius>fully updated
08:35<Neikius>Linux xxx 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux
08:35<petn-randall>,kernels
08:35<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.15-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1)
08:35<Neikius>if I was not clear, modprobe fuse does not work, it does not load the module
08:35<themill>Neikius: and the other half?
08:36<Neikius>sec
08:36<Neikius>its a bunch of text, can I paste that here straight?
08:36<themill>the Installed line is enough
08:36<petn-randall>Neikius: http://paste.debian.net
08:36<Neikius>ty XD
08:37<Neikius>http://paste.debian.net/909156/
08:37<themill>Neikius: you've not rebooted since installing a new kernel image
08:37<Neikius>god, hope its that, second
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08:37<themill>that will often prevent modules being loaded
08:38<Neikius>jesus I am such a dunce! thanks
08:38<aytidaureh>can i install inkscape 0.92 on debian?
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08:39<Neikius>yeah it totally makes sense... @themill - thank you very much, would have probably lost hours on this by my own stupidity
08:39<themill>,i needrestart
08:39<judd>Package needrestart (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: check which daemons need to be restarted after library upgrades. Version: 1.2-8+deb8u1; Size: 22.8k; Installed: 186k; Homepage: https://github.com/liske/needrestart
08:39<themill>Neikius: ^^ good nag power
08:39<petn-randall>,v inkscape
08:39<judd>Package: inkscape on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.48.3.1-1.3; jessie: 0.48.5-3; jessie-backports: 0.92.0-3~bpo8+1; sid: 0.92.0-3; stretch: 0.92.0-3
08:40<petn-randall>aytidaureh: If you're running Debian 8 (jessie), you can activate backports and install it from there.
08:40<petn-randall>!jessie-backports
08:40<dpkg>Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
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08:43<Neikius>@themill this needrestart seems interesting, thanks again!
08:44<themill>np
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08:49<aytidaureh>why on debian's site inkscape on jessie backports (0.91-12~bpo8+2) not 0.92 ?
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08:52<themill>0.92.0-3~bpo8+1 was uploaded just recently and should be available
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08:55<aytidaureh>okay ,still wait :)
08:57<petn-randall>aytidaureh: The website lags behind a little, but you can already install it via jessie-backports.
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09:06<aytidaureh>okay petn-randall i have installed that :)
09:07<Guest807>test
09:08<petn-randall>Test failed. Insert floppy disk #2.
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10:13<yeynop>hi
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10:29<juan19>hello, i have chrome and firefox, Does not update a website that has changed. I'm still showing the old web. I press F5 and also Ctrl F5 and it does not change .. in another computer walks well .. What can it be?
10:29<petn-randall>juan19: Is it redirecting you somewhere else?
10:29<juan19>i think no
10:29<juan19>is very extrange
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10:30<Amok>Hi. Very recently something changed in Sid. lsb_release -a no longer returns Sid/unstable, not its stretch/90, why?
10:30<juan19>is a new web,, today i did
10:30<Amok>now*
10:30<itd>juan19: Try CTRL+F5, maybe it's cached.
10:30<petn-randall>juan19: Can be tons of things unrelated to the browser, like caching servers inbetween, or a CDN that redirects you to old content.
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10:30<juan19>i did, dont work
10:31<itd>Amok: #debian-next for sid, please
10:31<Amok>idt: thank you
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10:32<theta3>on which channel can i report broken links on debian.org?
10:32<juan19>show the old content
10:32<juan19>ok i gonna read about CDN, i dont know what is it
10:32<juan19>thanks
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10:44<somiaj>theta3: I belive they will be updated, you aren't the only one to notice. There was a bug so the 8.7.0 images got replaced with 8.7.1 and the webpage hasn't updated yet
10:47<theta3>somiaj, yes, i found the readme describing the HACK thingie and some live images silently failing - thought this isn't known so i wanted to let the devs know
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10:48<juan19>realy i loss a lot of time and the f pc next here have w os and work good, i have to finish this work and have to go to another pc with w ,
10:48<juan19>very angry
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10:50<somiaj>theta3: there may be a package you can check for bugs or report bugs against for the web stuff, not positive on the details though
10:52<theta3>somiaj, it was the 8.7.1 images replacing 8.7.0, without the download links on debian.org being updated - 404 everywhere. i reported on #debian-cd, but they already knew... :)
10:54<theta3>thanks
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10:57<somiaj>yea it seems to be known, unsure if it is just an automatic update thing on the webpage so it is just waiting for that to trigger. Also as I said I think there is a package you can report web bugs too
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10:59<user1>hi!
10:59<itd>user1: Hello. :)
11:00<user1>do you speak Spanish ?
11:00<itd>!es
11:00<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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11:04<amayer>I am on the debian.org website trying to download the 64-bit torrent files. The links appear to be broken. I get a 404 error. Is the website maintainer in here?
11:06<itd>amayer: Look here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.1/
11:06<amayer>I found that. I just wanted to let the website maintainer know that the links are broken.
11:06<amayer>itd: Thank you though :)
11:07<itd>amayer: Good. :) AFAIK they know it already. ;)
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11:07<gnew>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.1/amd64/iso-dvd/
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11:08<gnew>The linked link to google is still in version 8.7.0 and not 8.7.1
11:09<gnew>Not on google, but on site. sorry
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11:28<amayer>Is there a way I can have a debian as a rolling release but use the stable branch? I looked up debian stable but it keeps pointing me to Jessie.
11:29<petn-randall>amayer: Doesn't stable and rolling pretty much contradict themselves?
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11:29<petn-randall>amayer: stable is jessie, if you want a unstable, unfinished, rolling release, take testing or sid.
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11:31<amayer>I feel like stable and rolling are not contradictory. I want any package marked stable but I dont want to have to do a bulk upgrade when debian goes from 8.x.x to 9.x.x
11:32<amayer>Im not sure if im thinking about this the right way just looking at my options.
11:32<grawity>but that's really what debian's "stable" *is*
11:32<amayer>yeah but once you release debian 9 I will have to upgrade
11:33<petn-randall>amayer: You don't? You can wait a few years or not even do it at all.
11:34<grove>Stability is NOT (just) about each program being (relatively) error free, but (also) about them not changing and working well together. You can't achieve that without lots of testing and bulk upgrades
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11:34<grawity>for "relatively error-free", there's debian testing, imho
11:34<petn-randall>amayer: Other distros might have a different policy about it, but Debian defines stable as non-moving, and free of release-critical bugs.
11:35<grawity>since it's still got more layers before it
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11:36<grove>So stability (with the definition Debian uses) and rolling upgrades ARE contradictory
11:37<amayer>That makes sense. The problem I am trying to solve is: I am shipping kiosks all over the country (US) and will not have physical access to them. I want them to receive security updates pretty much forever because our clients are cheap and will not replace hardware if it appears to be working.
11:38<grawity>that's pretty much incompatible with them being stable
11:38<grawity>and with Debian having a finite amount of maintainers
11:38<grawity>you could maybe build the kiosks with your own package repo though?
11:38<amayer>grawity: understandable. I just figured I would ask and see if it was possible.
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11:39<grove>You don't have to upgrade to get security updates. That's why Debian has a security team that backports the relevant security fixes to the versions in stable
11:39<grawity>that way you could first test stuff on the exact same setup as the real kiosks, and *then* push it off to the kiosks
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11:39<grawity>grove: only for two releases, no?
11:39<grawity>not really 'forever'
11:40<grawity>nobody wants to maintain etch
11:40<grove>Right.
11:40*grove throws a slink at grawity
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11:41<grove>I would probably also set up my own repository if I were to maintain kiosks.
11:43<amayer>grove: I am a developer that is forced into doing sysadmin things. I will probably end up maintaining a repo for these things. But I dont want to jump into doing all that stuff at the same time.
11:43<theta3>amayer, if you need long-time support for those kiosks, why not ubuntu LTS (5 years) or CentOS (10 years)? setup automatic updates and it should work for years - just don't forget to reboot them after updates that require it
11:43<btaylor>were rbd/rados qos thigns ever added in jewel+?
11:43*grove wonders which piece of old hardware lying around has the oldest debian on it
11:45<amayer>theta3: I dont like the way Ubuntu repackages some things. I am more familiar with CentOS maybe I could look into that.
11:46<itd>amayer: never tried it, but maybe have a look at mender.io
11:47<theta3>centos 7 will be supported until june 2024 - that's long enough for either the kiosks to need to be replaced, or maybe you doing something else. no major upgrades that can go wrong, although that's a rarity with debian
11:47<amayer>itd: I was planning on using something like puppet to manage them all.
11:47<amayer>But I will add this to the list of things to look into.
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11:48<amayer>I think debian upgrades are a bit more stable then centos upgrades. Ive never actually gotten centos to upgrade successfully. but I have friends that have upgraded tons of debian boxes.
11:49<somiaj>I didn't think CentOS supported upgrading, I thought it was a reinstall
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11:49<amayer>Maybe the dont officially support it. I think I found a script that claimed they could do it.
11:50<somiaj>but CentOS seems to have longer support for its stable system, but with debian-lts and the upgrade paths debian provides I think it depends more on which one you enjoy working with more, as they are both frozen systems (to some extent) with a long support window.
11:50<theta3>that's right, you can't upgrade centos between major releases. but the support is so long that the original machines tend to be decommissioned before the support runs out
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11:51<theta3>amayer, that script is broken, don't even attempt to use it (full disclosure: i'm a centos contributor)
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11:52<amayer>theta3: like I said I nuke and pave. Now that all our stuff is virtual I can spin up a machine and test it before taking the old one offline.
11:52<amayer>So its not as much of a problem any more.
11:52<theta3>amayer, the right way to upgrade rhel clones is by performing a new install and reprovisioning with a config management tool (puppet, ansible, whatever)
11:52<amayer>theta3: We are looking into puppet
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11:53<amayer>itd: Mender looks awesome. Google does something like this with their chromebooks.
11:53<theta3>perhaps that will come in centos 8, perhaps not - fedora supports upgrades via dnf for the past releases, they work pretty well
11:53<somiaj>does note this is a debian support channel, so don't drift too far off topic. (:
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11:54<theta3>sorry about that. for centos, #centos on freenode is the right channel :)
11:54<somiaj>a little comparision talk is fine, but it is nice to not drift to far. (:
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11:59<Yst>I'm having trouble opening a basic ZIP file. Xarchiver says that the format isn't recognized, but it opens every other basic ZIP file that I throw at it. Any ideas of how I might see the contents of this archive?
11:59<amayer>Thanks guys. You have been a huge help!
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12:00<musca>Yst: You can examine the file with the file command
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12:04<theta3>amayer, you're welcome
12:05<somiaj>Yst: can you open it on other machines? Have you tried just using unzip from the unzip package?
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12:11<Yst>musca: The file command says that it can't open it. somiaj: I don't have another machine to try with. musca, somiaj: It just occurred to me. Before I knew that it was a ZIP file, I tried opening it with a text editor. The first twenty bytes are actual text, not a ZIP file. I need to strip the first twenty bytes off before it can be read.
12:11<Yst>That seems easy, I'm going to look up how to do that.
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12:12<somiaj>could be a damaged/corrupt file
12:13<Yst>No, I downloaded it again with the same results.
12:13<Yst>Other downloaders are using it just fine.
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12:14<Yst>Also, the first twenty bytes are "#!/usr/bin/env love\n", which is highly suspicious.
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12:15<Yst>(Suspicious as in it looks clearly added intentionally, not added by corruption.)
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12:16<Yst>It looks like I want the "dd" command for removing bytes.
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12:18<Yst>SUCCESS!! Thank you, musca and somiaj!
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12:47<birb>Anyone else unable to download any 8.7 related files right now? I'm getting this: https://i.imgur.com/azcNNy3.jpg
12:47<birb>Happens with netinst ISOs, Live ISOs, and torrents.
12:50<birb>Scratch that. The URL on the homepage needs updating! Swapped it to 8.7.1 and downloads fine.
12:51<somiaj>replace 8.7.0 with 8.7.1, this is known
12:51<somiaj>the images were updated, now just waiting on the webpage generation to be updated
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12:53<birb>Got it. Thanks. :3
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13:50<nuts007>hi
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13:56<nuts007>hi again
13:56<duclicsic>nuts007: if you have a question, just ask it.
13:56<nuts007>usually not asking for help but this time i need to
13:57<duclicsic>hi btw. go right ahead.
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13:57<nuts007>my firefox does not play webm
13:57<nuts007>jessie max updated stable
13:57<nuts007>ff esr 45
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13:59<nuts007>default config
13:59<nuts007>youtube / html5 says i can
14:00<nuts007>any ideas?
14:00<duclicsic>nuts007: i don't know how to help you, but i found this link (https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3z3pqd/webms_not_working_in_firefox_anymore/) with a google search for: firefox webm
14:00<duclicsic>from this month
14:00<nuts007>will check thanks
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14:21<debian4444444>I have one flash drive which automounts only on /media/user/HACK 1 . Why my system decide to use this name HACK 1 ?
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14:21<towo`>because it's the label of the partition?
14:22<debian4444444>no, that flash drive dont' have any label
14:22<debian4444444>i reformat it many times, still the same
14:22<debian4444444>other flash drives don't mountlike this
14:23<grawity>do you have it listed in /etc/fstab?
14:23<debian4444444>or at least GParted don't show the label
14:23<towo`>blkid would show the label
14:23<debian4444444>grawity, no i don't
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14:27<debian4444444>did blkid don't shwoing labels ...
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14:29<debian4444444>oh i did it wrong
14:29<debian4444444>yes it shows
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14:30<debian4444444>but this is still strange, I never set my flash drive to label HACK 1
14:31<nuts007>run fsck
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14:32<grawity>wipefs it before formatting
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14:40<debian4444444>i fix this, but anyone have idea why my flash got this label ??
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14:47<nuts007>it got it in the past. it was present in second copy of partition table
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14:51<debian4444444>ok, but why this strange name HACK 1 ? I cleary remmember that i never set this label to HACK 1.
14:51<nuts007>someone else did
14:51<grawity>maybe someone ... hacked into it
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14:52<debian4444444>grawity, yeah it makes me paranoid :D
14:52<debian4444444>so that why i'm asking ?
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14:57<debian4444444>nuts007, how that's possible ? i'm the only who uses it
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15:01<skainz>debian4444444, see https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/5oc5y1/the_debian_net_install_volume_label_is_hack_1/
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15:20<debian4444444>skainz, Thanks for this :D now i can sleep :D
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18:18<redguy>Hi, I am trying to fix a bug in my package. One of the loose ends is that libatomic.so is not present in libatomic1 package. Is there a reason for that? AFAIU libatomic.so is a library for gcc __atomic builtins, so it seems that it would be used quite often
18:18<annadane>does anyone know why qbittorrent isn't appearing in the list of applications when i try to open a torrent?
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18:25<annadane>i can try to manually add it by going to /usr/share/applications/qbittorrent.desktop but it doesn't seem to work
18:25<annadane>(i mean it doesn't work in the sense that it doesn't open the torrent, but does appear in list of applications)
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18:27<annadane>i notice "allow this file to run as a program" is unchecked, that may be why, it's a permissions thing
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18:33<Brigo_>redguy, try #debian-mentors
18:34<Brigo_>redguy, or #packaging
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18:36<redguy>thanks Brigo_, will try
18:36<Brigo_>redguy, good luck :)
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18:50<ach>rust isn't anyhow on wanted?
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21:52<Atlantis[m]>人呢?
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21:57<_42>人們玩
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21:58<_42>^
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22:12<ba55>hey guys
22:13<ba55>so my brother hopped on my pc, messed something up. now every time i try to do certain things such as edit users, or mount drives via nautilis... its asks for HIS username
22:13<ba55>he was trying to setup an smb share last i knew, any suggestions on what to check?
22:15<ba55>wasnt much of anything in his bash_history to see what was done
22:15<ba55>running jessie btw
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22:20<Arcade>ba55, do you have sudo installed by chance or do you just use root?
22:20<ba55>def have sudo
22:20<Arcade>does the error only occur with sudo commands?
22:21<ba55>no, its not even in a terminal
22:21<ba55>so say i click files
22:21<ba55>see my drive on the left
22:21<ba55>go to mount it, it asks for auth
22:21<ba55>but a different user
22:21<ba55>than i am logged in with
22:21<ba55>make sense?
22:22<Arcade>got it, it might be the smb share where it stores is messed up
22:22<ba55>so i removed samba hoping that would help, any thoughts on what to look at next?
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22:25<Arcade>does /etc/fstab show the mount: no need to paste in irc your info?
22:26<ba55>nope
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22:26<ba55>just the sda (main drive) and cdrom
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22:28<Arcade>the only other place I can think of is it listed in passwords and keys?
22:30<ba55>notta
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22:32<Arcade>ba55, are you a part of the sudo group?
22:32<ba55>yep
22:34<Arcade>ok, I am thinking it has to do with the smb file perhaps, clicked on the automount when he was logged in.
22:35<ba55>so heres the kicker
22:35<ba55>he was doing it all over ssh
22:35<_42>ba55, -i try?///
22:35<_42>sorry sticked key(
22:36<ba55>no worries
22:36<ba55>what were you asking?
22:38<Arcade>I would check your bash history then: is it possible he edited "/etc/samba/smb.conf"?
22:39<ba55>im sure he did
22:39<ba55>what woul di look for in there??
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22:42<Arcade>ba55: I would possibly ask him, he could of edited several files that grant or remove permissions to things on the system.
22:43<ba55>yeah i did, he didn't answer and i need my stuff :/
22:45<Arcade>I am thinking he may of edited "/etc/samba/smb.conf" and changed permissions on who has access to certain folders.
22:45<ba55>well hwo bout this
22:45<ba55>i dont need the share
22:45<ba55>so what if i replaced with def smb?
22:45<ba55>logged out then back in/.?
22:46<Arcade>you could try: its possible he could of added a group that gives you permission (permissions are only granted on login: one session)
22:47<Arcade>changing*
22:47<ba55>brb!
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22:48<aytidaureh>is there a group debian in the telegram?
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22:50<ba55>aye
22:50<ba55>so no dice
22:51<ba55>as for the group, when i type 'groups' nothing out of the ordinary
22:51<Arcade>I guess your only option is to wait for him.. trying to mount it manually I think will result the same way (asking for his password).
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22:51<Arcade>something he changed or did to smb
22:54<ba55>ugh
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22:55<Arcade>I am out of options unless someone else chimes in
22:55<andy>Andy
22:55<ba55>also, i just looked @ fstab
22:56<ba55>it hasnt been modified since the 8th which was before this
22:56<Arcade>I am thinking "/etc/samba/smb.conf" got tweaked perhaps
22:57<ba55> cat /etc/samba//smb.conf
22:57<ba55>cat: /etc/samba//smb.conf: No such file or directory
22:57<ba55>imoved it
22:57<ba55>so its not even there, no idea where its getting this info from
22:57<Arcade>one slash ;p
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22:57<ba55>i know heh - its still not there
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22:58<ba55>i feel liek this has to be a group issue
22:59<Arcade>when it prompts you does it show a keyring type issue or just asks for the password
22:59<ba55>just a password
22:59<ba55>and it shows his username
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23:01<andy>hi punch
23:01<punch>hi Andy :3
23:01<andy>are u ok?
23:01<punch>im fine, and u?
23:01<andy>fine, go to skype?
23:02<ba55>sambashare:x:126:
23:02<punch>yes sir, thx 4 it :3 i like so much
23:02<ba55>i found that in /etc/groups
23:02<ba55>should i remove it?
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23:23<ba55>i got it!
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23:24<Arcade>great ba55
23:24<ba55>delted the user!
23:24<ba55>now it asked for root pass and automounted
23:24<ba55>!
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