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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-19

---Logopened Thu Jan 19 00:00:08 2017
00:05-!-Vollstrecker_ [~vollstrec@p2003007A2A1C77000A606EFFFE4490F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:05-!-Vollstrecker_ is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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00:14-!-Deus is "realname" on #debian
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00:16<Deus>hi
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00:24-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:29-!-Vollstrecker_ is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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00:35-!-gem is "Nandaja" on #debian #debian-diaspora #kernelnewbies
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00:37-!-missmbob is "missmbob" on #debian-next #debian
00:38-!-Delta-One [~zero@2001:2002:51e2:7ba1:e216:8860:f727:279b] has joined #debian
00:38-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-nordic #debian.se #debian-next
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00:50-!-bounce is "bounce" on #debian #https-everywhere #freedombox
00:51-!-Strife89 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-191-141.mcn.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
00:51-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
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00:53-!-daniel is "daniel" on #debian
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00:58-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
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01:00-!-dgtlchlk is "uhhh" on #fish #debian
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01:16-!-Vollstrecker is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:25-!-wcpan is "wcpan" on #linode #debian #debian-kde #debian-lxqt #dot
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01:26-!-wcpan is "wcpan" on #linode #debian #debian-kde #debian-lxqt #dot
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01:34-!-chomwitt1 is "chomwitt" on #debian #debian-games
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01:37-!-trifolio6 is "René Mérou" on @#guifi-illesbalears #debian-mentors-es #debian-es @#hispalinux @#bulma #debian-kde #debian
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01:38-!-juergh is "Juerg Haefliger" on #debian-cloud #debian
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01:47-!-meminemy_ is "Alfred Egger,,," on #debian #fai
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01:48-!-Vollstrecker_ is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:57-!-mpl0de is "Nikolay" on #debian
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02:04-!-rburkholder is "realname" on #debian-boot #debian-live #debian-installer #ceph #ceph-devel #debian #debian-amd64 #debian-ipv6 #debian-lxqt #debian-science #iovisor #ipv6 #debian-next #debian-kde
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02:05-!-Alam_Squeeze is "Alam Arias" on #mingw-w64 #debian #linux #gc-linux #debian-next #bitlbee #debian-games #multiarch #debian-offtopic #debian-systemd #debian-ipv6
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02:12-!-mathieu is "Blum Mathieu" on #debian-fr #debian-kde #debian
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02:19-!-leatherface is "julien" on #debian #debian-fr
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02:32-!-tversteeg[m] is "@Tversteeg:matrix.org" on #debian #debian-offtopic
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02:34-!-satbyy is "Satish Bysany" on #packaging #debian-next #debian
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02:35-!-cootcraig is "Craig Anderson" on #debian
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02:35-!-virgoerns is "mgoral" on #debian
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02:37-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on @#debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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02:41-!-disposable2 is "disposable2" on @#linux-ha #ovirt #ceph #debian
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02:48-!-fabrice is "Fabrice Aeschbacher" on #debian-next #debian-fr #debian-boot #ceph #oftc #debian
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02:50-!-ciampix is "Marco Ciampa" on #debian-it #debian #freedombox #oftc #osm-it #osm #sisu @#po4a #geda
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02:52-!-mifritscher is "purple" on #debian-next #debian
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02:53-!-mifritscher1 is "purple" on #debian-next #debian
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03:06-!-libregeekingkid is "libregeekingkid" on #debian-offtopic #hamara #debian-in #debian
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03:14-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian-ftp #debian
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03:15-!-narcan is "Denis Briand" on #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian
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03:16-!-itd is "itd" on #debian-welcome #debian-arm #debian
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03:21-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian-ftp #debian
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03:26-!-fabrice is "Fabrice Aeschbacher" on #debian-next #debian-fr #debian-boot #ceph #oftc #debian
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03:30-!-meti is "meti" on #debian-next #debian-it #debian
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03:41-!-yuhl_h_ is "Cédric BRINER" on #debian #debian-fr
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03:42-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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03:49-!-testian is "Dietrich Helexien" on #roccat #hardware #debian #xrdp #docker
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03:57-!-LeuX_ is "Leo Settele,,," on #debian #debian-offtopic
03:59<aytidaureh>why ,there is two firefox on debian?
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04:06<ignuki>firefox ESR is a stable version that doesn't update so frequently
04:07<ignuki>the other firefox is just regular firefox, with a new version every two months
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04:07<ignuki>ESR is in version 45 or 46 right now
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04:08<ignuki>regular firefox is in version 50
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04:19<Alessandro>Hello
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04:21<Alessandro>Hi, I need your support, I am trying to Install debian on without CONNECTION desktop computer to internet because despite having a stick wifi The system, I am not me, the notes continue with the installation of Debian, but without a network mirror, the now problem and that iS the installed base of the operating system so no graphical part, come Can I Install the driver on your pC which has no internet via commands? Thank you
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04:24<petn-randall>At least give people time to read it before quitting. *sigh*
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04:52<jamesmc>65 seconds is enough to answer anything, surely
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04:59<randjackal>so i installed stretch but netstat didn't get installed at installation
04:59<randjackal>is this a wanted behaviour?
05:00<jm_>topic says testing/unstable: #debian-next
05:00<randjackal>i think this might be a bug
05:00<randjackal>ok
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05:55<White_Rabbit>Hi, my web-search ability failed me. I'm happily running sid, but I need g++-4.*
05:55<White_Rabbit>I've added "deb http://etcetera jessie main" to sources.list but I still cannot install g++-4.9* :(
05:55<White_Rabbit>Does anyone have a hint?
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06:02<itd>White_Rabbit: My hint is #debian-next
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07:55<MarkL1>I am using Firefox ESR do you think I can install the latest backport firefox version TOGETHER with the ESR version or they will have conflict each other. I know I need just 1 but I want to test both
07:57<itd_>judd: conflicts firefox --release jessie-backports
07:57<judd>Package firefox in jessie-backports/amd64 -- conflicts: j2re1.4, pango-graphite (<< 0.9.3).
07:57<itd_>judd: conflicts firefox
07:57<judd>No package named 'firefox' was found in jessie/amd64.
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07:57<itd_>judd: conflicts firefox-esr
07:57<jm_>looks like you can
07:57<judd>Package firefox-esr in jessie/amd64 -- conflicts: iceweasel (<< 45), j2re1.4, pango-graphite (<< 0.9.3).
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07:58<itd_>MarkL1: Yes, should work.
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08:05<petn-randall>MarkL1: It won't conflict, but there might be a database scheme upgrade in the newer version, making your profile unusable for the older one.
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08:08<jm_>heh I use firefox 10 (don't ask) and it worked OK even when profile was used by 50.x :P
08:09<jm_>obviously this is no guarantee, just giving info about it ...
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08:10<MarkL1>yes, I have tryed both some month ago but just haveing intalled 1 per time and the personal settings were always the same, so I was supposing that installing 2 firefox versions, there could be a personal setting conflicts expecially if they use something in common like a folder for the settings or the cache or something else...
08:10<petn-randall>jm_: At this point, I don't even want to know ... 10?!?
08:10<jm_>petn-randall: I'll explain tomorrow if I remember, have to run now
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08:11<petn-randall>I'd also start running when I'm stillusing Firefox 10 ...
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08:34<harelu>hi guys i have a fresh jessie install and i am having problems with my gpu being noisy. I have amd 5670 card and im using the open-source drivers. I tried googling but a lot of the results are outdated or about ubuntu
08:35<harelu>im also using gnome so i cant test the prorietary driver
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08:35<a2>hello all
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08:44<itd_>authority: Hello
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08:45<somiaj>harelu: I don't know if the driver is the issue for a noise gpu, sounds more hardware.
08:45<somiaj>harelu: you coudl also install a minimial wm to use instead of gnome to test, or you could try amdgpu
08:45<somiaj>,v xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
08:45<judd>Package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.1.2-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.2.0-1+b1; stretch: 1.2.0-1+b1
08:46<authority>please need to format ma harddisk with terminal
08:46<somiaj>harelu: you can get it from jessie-backports, you'll probabaly need a backported kernel and firmware from jessie-backports. But unsure on the details as I don't use ati cards.
08:46<somiaj>authority: depends on what you mean by format? Is the partition table already created so you just need to create a filesystem?
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08:47<george>hi
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08:47<authority>not partition yet. just want to newly install parrotsec on it
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08:48<somiaj>!parrotos
08:48<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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08:48<authority>thanks
08:48<somiaj>authority: we don't really support that here, so details for the install you'll have to ask their support. As for creating the filesystem you need two tools, one to create a partition table, such as cfdisk or gparted (depending on if y ou want MBR or GTP)
08:49<somiaj>authority: second is to create the filesystem on the partiion using something like mkfs.ext4
08:49<Guest999>wifi hack:
08:49<authority>yea i have GTP but it say unallocated
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08:49<Guest999>where how
08:50<authority>and i try using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=4k && sync
08:50<authority> in terminal
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08:51<grove>Guest999: Du you have a question abou t Debian stable?
08:51<Guest999>no
08:52<Guest999>no english
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08:56<harelu>im sorry to bump my question but does anyone have any advice about my gpu issue?
08:58<tomcres>harelu only thing I can think of is maybe to use the AMDGPU driver as somiaj mentioned
08:59<somiaj>authority: that won't make a file system and could corrupt your partition table, use the tools I suggested. For GPT you need to use parted or gparted
09:01<harelu>tomcres, im not sure my card is supported, the debian packages page for amdgpu says " The following chip families should be supported: Bonaire, Hawaii, Kaveri, Kabini Mullins, Iceland, Tonga, Carrizo, Fiji, Stoney."
09:01<harelu>mine is redwood
09:02<tomcres>I find gdisk a little more user-friendly than parted
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09:06<tomcres>harelu not sure what else to try…I'm using fglrx with no problem, but I'm also using KDE
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09:08<harelu>i guess ill install KDE or xfce and try the other driver to see if it helps
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09:12<somiaj>harelu: I'd go with xfce, lxde or a light wm for testing, less to install and configure
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09:23<gen01>Hey guys! Does anyone have a clue of how to get the tcp.log from a dd-wrt router? I've added the public ssh key to my router but after that I'm clueless of what to do.
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09:26<blast007>gen01: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Index:Support
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09:29<gen01>ah lol. I tried dd-wrt channel before but I was obviously trying from wrong irc server ^^ tyvm blast.
09:29<blast007>:)
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10:03<MarkL1>I have installed mozilla firefox backport the version is the 50.1.0 along with Firefox ESR the version is 45.. there are few anomalies, they can not work together because the system says that firefox is already running... when I start firefox 50 I can see that the gnome notification is Firefox ESR and nor Firefox as it should be... the new firex 50 has the same extensions and setting of the ESR version so they share the same setting i
10:03<MarkL1>gave to ESR. using 1 per time seems all ok and the useragent confirm that I am using the firefox 45 or the 50. Do you think they I could have security or stability issues having both on my Jessie?
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10:04<petn-randall>MarkL1: You can't have them use the same profile, as they would be writing to the same history database, etc, causing corruption. That's why firefox locks the profile when starting.
10:05<petn-randall>MarkL1: I can't really think of a use case case where you need to run two different firefox instances at the same time and use the same profile. You can make a copy though, and then let one instance use it.
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10:09<MarkL1>right, well I was testing the version 50 but I think that using the ESR version 45 I would have no problems at all, included the safety using it for banking or paying something with the credit card, do you agree?
10:11<petn-randall>MarkL1: Either version should work. Just make sure to deactivate Adobe flash, and update regularly.
10:12<Eryn_1983_FL>hey peeps what app can i use to record from my mic
10:13<MarkL1>yes, I don't use adobe flash on firefox, If i need flash I use Google Chrome that has its own pepper flash
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10:14<Eryn_1983_FL>nm i found audacity again i forget freaking names of shit i dont use fml
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10:17<MarkL1>to remove it do you think is ok with: sudo apt-get --purge remove jessie-backports firefox
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10:24<petn-randall>MarkL1: apt purge firefox, no need to mention the repo it came from.
10:26<MarkL1>petn-randall, thanks, I have done yet so: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox I think is gone all ok
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10:35<pron>anyone can give me tips about how golang from backports is ment to be used, there is no majcik that links stuff to /usr/bon/go
10:36<pron>well to /usr/bin/go =)
10:37<somiaj>No need to cross post, read the changelog
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12:11<AlexLikeRock>tanks abrotman
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12:11<AlexLikeRock>no Not exactly trolling,Rather debating "STRONGLY"
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12:16<Echoz>awal1: /3
12:16<Echoz>whoops
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12:21<CuSn>Desktop system, using suspend on idle. When system suspends, pressing a key activates it... except for X. Display never comes back on. (I can ssh into it) Is there a fix for this?
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12:22<CuSn>Its the lastest stable debian 64 bit release
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12:24<blast007>!suspend troubleshooting
12:24<dpkg>A guide for troubleshooting suspend-to-RAM and suspend-to-disk problems is at http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Suspend_to_RAM and http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Suspend_to_disk . The tools it references are available in the Debian <uswsusp> package. See also http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt
12:25<blast007>dunno if that will help or not
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12:25<Echoz>my solution is to never suspend, on desktops anyway
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12:29<Echoz>Does anybody know if there's a way to check the status of drives behind a lsi megaraid 1078 in debian?
12:29<Echoz>because walking to the next room is too much work
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12:34<CuSn>blast007: thanks.
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12:35<CuSn>Echoz: that not asolution, thats a non-workaround... :-)
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12:35<Echoz>CuSn: it's a best practice! :))
12:36<CuSn>sorry, did you say best craptice? :-)
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12:37<Echoz>uptime loses it's credibility with suspend :)
12:37<Echoz>although admittedly this desktop only has 6 days now, since i put in a new SSD
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12:43<Echoz>Has anybody tried to run Windows 2016 in the stable version of libvirt+qemu?
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12:52<zeronoob>Has anyone else had issues with intel integrated graphics on stretch?
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12:52<mtn>zeronoob: works fine for men
12:52<tomcres>!debian-next
12:52<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
12:52<mtn>or me, even
12:53<Echoz>mtn: i believe only women have problems with it
12:53<mtn>Echoz: :)
12:53<blast007>Echoz: have you tried and had issues? I do notice there is a jessie-backports version of qemu-kvm.
12:53<zeronoob>Well, I technically have the issue on Jessie too :P
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12:53<blast007>zeronoob: what issue?
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12:55<zeronoob>I have a desktop with both intel integrated and a Nvidia 960. The 960 works fine and dandy, but for whatever reason, I can never get intel to work properly. lspci shows Display controller, glxinfo never shows it, etc.
12:55<Echoz>blast007: Yeah, I decided to download the evaluation today, but it doesn't get past the logo when booting from the install image. Upgrading the hypervisor would be a lot of work on my server, but I could of course do that on my workstation, since I won't use it for anything besides testing anyway.
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13:00<Echoz>I have more free memory and idle cores here anyway :)
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13:03<Echoz>blast007: It worked right away on my workstation, with qemu-kvm from bpo
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13:05<Echoz>added bonus of raid0, as well :)
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13:43<Dienonymous>saludos me van a disculpar pero mi pregunta es SI SE TERMINA FACEBOOK ESTO COMO SIGUE?
13:44<amacater>!es
13:44<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
13:45<Dienonymous>HACE UN MES QUE INTENTO ME RESPONDAN Y NADA
13:47<Dienonymous>ok gracias pero no me contestan hace un mes en espa;ol
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14:16<LOursSons>anybody with a few minutes to help me out with a debian/xfce/samba question?
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14:19<amacater>Anything in particular?
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14:21<LOursSons>i'm unable to load files from the network in most applications. All those files can be opened if copied locally, and for example, video or audio files can be played in a player, but opening databases, office doc, or php files doesn't work
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14:28<amacater>Is the samba service running? Check with top / ps -ef or whatever. Permissions? Are files copyable from machine to machine with scp, for example - i.e. is there actual network connectivity?
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14:30<somiaj>systemctl status samba works too
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14:32<amacater>iptables is my next bet, - if you use selinux, check that too
14:32<LOursSons>connectivity and samba are good, browsing the network is fine, using the options tab of the VLC to specify a samba credential gets this working, but for some reason Xfce seems to be impossible to give credentials for the files to the applications, some just won't open the file , but for example KATE editor gives me an error
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14:35<blast007>any specific error?
14:39<LOursSons>'The file smb://192.168.1.50/......php could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it. Check if you have read access to the file"
14:41<LOursSons>in the same folder on the network i have pictures, if i use firefox to open the, it works; if i use another application, like image viewer, it does not.
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14:41<somiaj>LOursSons: sounds like each program needs to authenticate. Maybe just mount the file system locally using cifs and let that do all the authentication for you.
14:43<LOursSons>mmm... this would seems like a good idea, but i'm not that sure of what it all means, not a linux poweruser for now....
14:43<LOursSons>http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=114021
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14:43<LOursSons>this seems like the pproblem i have
14:44<LOursSons>the thing is i have multiple network files on different network machine, and cannot always mount all those disks
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15:09<jcrowgey>hi deb room, here's an easy one which I can't remember the answer to: i'm tracking 'stretch', but a particular package isn't in stretch yet, how to add sid to the repo for just installing this package
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15:10<jcrowgey>specifically i need to install libboost-date-time1.55-dev, but it's not in stretch, i want to install the sid version of only this package, but keep using stretch in general.
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15:16<GPenguin>jcrowgey: if you need only 1 package you could grab it via packages.debian.org
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15:39<jcrowgey>GPenguin, that's a good suggestion. It may end up being a handful of packages though. I was thinking there should be a way to have sid in my sources.list, but only install from it when specifically requested (ie, track stretch except when told not to)
15:39<jcrowgey>is that possible?
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15:45<GPenguin>jcrowgey: i am not sure to be honest. but i think it would require you to do pinning which the debian developers do not suggest
15:45<uhoreg[m]>jcrowgey: You can do that via pinning. (Do "man apt_preferences" to read more about it.) But using it is highly discouraged as things may break.
15:45<GPenguin>if you want to do it on your own risk you could look at: https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
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15:48<jcrowgey>ok, i'll take a look at those resources, thanks folks
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16:05<annadane>hi, is it a good idea to install flash in a browser or is there an equivalent i should be using?
16:06<blast007>annadane: Depends what you're trying to do with Flash. Most websites can do video without Flash now.
16:06<amacater>Flash is dying slowly - you shouldn't need it - gnash may work well enough
16:07<annadane>i was just wondering if it's in insecure POS that i shouldn't be bothering with
16:08<amacater>That just about sums it up, yes - if you really really really must, there's an installer for Adobe flashplugin in non-free - but it's not advised.
16:08<tomcres>I don't think the Firefox plugin gets any more updates on Linux. The only one that Adobe still updates is the one built into Chrome.
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16:18<anonOREO>^topic
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16:41<petn-randall>That's not true. If adobe flash was unsupported in Debian, it would be removed.
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16:53<somiaj>also adobe is now suppling an updated napi plugin for flash, the napi flash package is the only one curretly working in debian at this moment, unless they have finally updated the pepperflash script
16:56<somiaj>ahh looks like there was an NMU packgae to fix it on Monday, but I don't see it uploaded yet.
16:57<somiaj>hmm the package tracker said it was uploaded, but yet it isn't there...strange
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17:05<romo>Hey guys, just realized my desktop is firing up sshd and I tried to read up on how to prevent unused services from starting. Since I understood maybe 20%, is:
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17:05<romo>update-rc.d <service> disable|enable considered best practice / a good idea?
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17:14<mots>romo, our heavely lord Poettering (the defiler) has decided that henceforth shalt the plebs use "systemctl disable <serivce>.
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17:25<romo>mots: not sure I'm following the first part^^, but: Wuhu, command works perfectly, thank you.
17:25<mots>^^
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17:26<romo>There's no need to kill the process beforehand?
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17:45<mots>romo, systemctl stop <service>.
17:45<mots>Otherweise it'll run until you restart.
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17:58<romo>mots: so now I can leave it disabled by default to not worry about anything and just start and stop it as / if needed without rebooting... wow. that's insanely useful.^^ thanks!
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17:58<petn-randall>mots: that's systemd-specific, the better approach is 'service <daemon> start/stop'.
17:59<mots>Debian has forsaken the UNIX philisophy for systemd two years ago. All must follow the path of Lennart now, petn-randall.
17:59<petn-randall>mots: Please cut down the FUD, thanks.
17:59<petn-randall>mots: systemd rants go to /dev/null.
18:00<petn-randall>!systemd ranting
18:00<dpkg>#debian is not a place for ranting about init systems; try #arguments, #moocows or /dev/null. Bugs with the necessary information on how to reproduce the problem should be reported to the relevant package in the <bts>.
18:01<mots>:^)
18:03<mots>I would also never say anything bad about our overlords.
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18:07<ph0n3b0y>gotta go
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18:18<petn-randall>mots: Back when those joke were still funny the dead sea was still called the sick sea. :P
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18:22<mots>I'd reply that back then debian had a sane init system as well, but it's against the rules for me to do so.
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18:28<petn-randall>mots: Indeed. At least you tried.
18:28<petn-randall>!next
18:28<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
18:28<petn-randall>:P
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18:31<mots>These bot commands aren't half as witty as you think they are.
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21:09<eper3z>hey question, im new to debian main system runs arch..what's the best way to manage pkgs I build from source? Kinda spoiled with aur and this amazing helper I use called aurutils. Said helper involves setting up a custom local repostory so that pacman keeps everything synced up on the system..anything like that? Or does dpkg have that cover and I just need to do more reading? :P
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21:18<tomcres>,i checkinstall
21:18<judd>Package checkinstall (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: installation tracker. Version: 1.6.2-4; Size: 130.7k; Installed: 512k; Homepage: http://checkinstall.izto.org; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/checkinstall
21:20<tomcres>There's a utility called "checkinstall" that can create .deb packages from "make install". There's some info in the homepage above.
21:22<eper3z>tomcres: beautiful!! thanks
21:23<tomcres>I've actually only used it once, so I'm no expert, but I can confirm that it worked at least the one time I tried it. :-)
21:24<eper3z>heh awesome, whats common/best practices with how you keep track of the stuff you build if you dont mind me asking
21:24<eper3z>I put the repos i clone in ~/.cache
21:27<tomcres>I generally don't build very much. I tend to stick to what's in Debian. And usually I don't mind just putting stuff in /usr/local—unless it's something big, then I want something like checkinstall to make it easier to upgrade/remove.
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21:53<eper3z>thanks tomcres!! appreciate it
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