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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-20

---Logopened Fri Jan 20 00:00:09 2017
00:02-!-mths [mathias@7YZAABJX8.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
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00:11-!-AlexLikeRock is "AlexLikeRock" on #debian
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00:11-!-JebidiahKerb is "Jebidiah" on #debian
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00:13-!-balrog is "balrog" on #tor #ros #qemu #oftc #nottor #msys2 #mitmproxy #mingw-w64 #lldb #linuxfs #kernelnewbies #https-everywhere #gcc #fish #debian-next #debian-games #debian-arm #debian-68k #debian #cryptodotis #cryptocat
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00:19-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
00:20-!-Strife1989 [~quassel@adsl-98-80-194-228.mcn.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
00:20-!-Strife1989 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
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00:35-!-linuxmodder is "Corey Sheldon" on #openstack #openbox #oftc #linux #kvm #irssi #ipv6 #https-everywhere #gcc #freenode #fosscar #fossology #ext4 #debian #Corsair #codesurfers #apparmor #smxi
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00:35-!-mths is "Mathias" on #debian #osm-dk #osm
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00:41-!-barbanegra is "http://barbanegra.info/" on #debian
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00:43-!-cj [~cjac@moonunit.colliertech.org] has joined #debian
00:43-!-cj is ""C.J. Collier KF7BMP"" on #debian #virt #debian-cli
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00:53-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
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00:58-!-azzamsa is "azzamsa" on @##debian-java #debian-id #debian-java #debian-hurd #debian-welcome #debian #debian-meeting
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00:59-!-steakwipe is "st8k" on #openbox #oftc #globaleaks #debian-games #debian-gnome #moocows #debian-offtopic #tor-project #tor #debian #debian-next
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01:05-!-daniel is "Daniel" on #debian
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01:07-!-gturner is "Gerald Turner" on #debian-pdx #debian
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01:08-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian-kde #debian
01:11-!-debalance [~quassel@aftr-88-153-6-25.unity-media.net] has joined #debian
01:11-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-kde #debian #debian-qa
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01:15-!-disposable2 is "disposable2" on @#linux-ha #ovirt #ceph #debian
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01:17-!-jedge is "realname" on #debian #powerdns
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01:21-!-NomadJim__ is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
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01:22-!-mathieu is "Blum Mathieu" on #debian-fr #debian-kde #debian
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01:25-!-fabrice is "Fabrice Aeschbacher" on #debian-next #debian-fr #debian-boot #ceph #oftc #debian
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01:33-!-jedge is "realname" on #debian #powerdns
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01:35-!-platvoeten [~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
01:36-!-platvoeten [~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #debian
01:36-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:41-!-tiagorocha is "tiagorocha" on #debian-l10n-br #debian-br-cdd #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-boot #debian-kde #debian
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01:42-!-illirion is "realname" on #debian
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01:43-!-bwn is "bwn" on #zcash #tor #virt #qemu #openttd #mm #kernelnewbies #debian-offtopic #debian
01:46-!-amiconn [~amiconn@p20030084AC0E3E00408D4B1B58BF82ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
01:46-!-amiconn [~amiconn@p20030084AC0E3E00E49F6ABDF1600E41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:46-!-amiconn is "Jens" on #debian #debian-next
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01:49-!-jedge is "realname" on #debian #powerdns
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01:53-!-debian is "asoftrain" on #debian
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01:56-!-Vollstrecker is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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02:00-!-mladen is "mladen" on #debian
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02:01-!-kmshanah is "Kevin Shanahan" on #debian
02:02-!-mifritscher [~michi@x4db29506.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #debian
02:02-!-mifritscher is "purple" on #debian-next #debian
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02:02-!-fabrice is "Fabrice Aeschbacher" on #debian-next #debian-fr #debian-boot #ceph #oftc #debian
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02:03-!-mifritscher is "purple" on #debian-next #debian
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02:05-!-jedge is "realname" on #debian #powerdns
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02:05-!-mpl0de is "mpl0de" on #debian
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02:05-!-shawn_ is "shawn" on #debian
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02:11-!-NomadJim_ is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
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02:14-!-grrrrrr is "http://barbanegra.info/" on #debian
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02:14-!-azzamsa [~quassel@202.80.212.40] has joined #debian
02:14-!-azzamsa is "azzamsa" on @##debian-java #debian-id #debian-java #debian-hurd #debian-welcome #debian #debian-meeting
02:14-!-hashem [~hashem@pool-108-41-25-29.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
02:14-!-hashem is "hashem" on #debian-next #debian-gnome #debian-boot #debian
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02:15-!-juergh is "Juerg Haefliger" on #debian-cloud #debian
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02:20-!-sqirrrl is "Mirko Ahnert" on #debian
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02:20-!-txgvnn is "txgvnn" on #debian-hurd @#debian-vn #debian
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02:21-!-jedge is "realname" on #debian #powerdns
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02:25-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on @#osdg-iiith @#pere #monkeysphere #debian-js #debian-arm #debian-reproducible #debian-in #debian-boot #debian #freedombox #debian-blends #debian-webapps
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02:28-!-TSPenguin is "Ruprecht" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
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02:33-!-asio is "Marcel Asio" on #munin #debian
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02:37-!-jedge is "realname" on #debian #powerdns
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02:40-!-arturo [~aborrero@r2d2.cica.es] has joined #debian
02:40-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on @#debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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02:40-!-orangensaft is "Safto Rangen" on #tor #debian
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02:42-!-mots_ is "realname" on #ovirt #debian
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02:42-!-juergh_ is "Juerg Haefliger" on #debian #debian-cloud
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02:44-!-Dagger2 is "oftc" on #packaging #debian-mentors #debian #qemu #debian-ipv6
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02:45-!-Grizzly_ is "Grizzly" on #debian #smuxi
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02:46-!-messa_ is "Petr,,," on #debian
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02:46-!-urzo_ is "ugly red zebra" on #debian #slackware #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-python-changes #debian-dpkg #debian-reproducible
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02:46-!-pcdummy_ is "pcdummy,,," on #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian #ovirt #oftc
02:46-!-RichiH_ [~richih@static.165.66.47.78.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian
02:46-!-RichiH_ is "Richard Hartmann" on #ikiwiki #debian-kde #debian-mentors #vcs-home #debian-ops #debian #oftc #moocows
02:46-!-Quintasan_ [~MichalZaj@2a01:4f8:150:40cb::2] has joined #debian
02:46-!-Quintasan_ is "Micha? Zaj?c" on #alioth #debian-mentors #debian-systemd #debian
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02:46-!-anyk__ is "anyk" on #debian
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02:46-!-claw_ is ",,," on #debian-lts #debian #debian-kde
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02:46-!-asio_ is "Marcel Asio" on #munin #debian
02:47-!-bastiand1 [~bastian@port-7974.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #debian
02:47-!-bastiand1 is "Bastian der Große" on #debian-systemd #debian
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02:47-!-einar_ is "einar" on #suckless #debian
02:47-!-Netsplit magnet.oftc.net <-> coulomb.oftc.net quits: DonRichie, JStoker, kolter, fabrice, adhawkins, Airwave, vlidur_, dtw, gusnan, bobe, (+87 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
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02:48-!-cmn is "Carlos Martín Nieto" on #debian #smuxi
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02:49-!-aef is "unset" on #debian #smuxi
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02:49-!-gbo is "gbo" on #debian #smuxi
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02:49-!-vlidur is "vlidur" on #debian-arm #debian
02:49-!-gaelL [~gaelL@91-121-38-253.kimsufi.com] has joined #debian
02:49-!-gaelL is "Gaël Lambert" on @#numeter #debian-next #debian-installer #debian
02:49-!-Statj [~Statj@ppp-2-86-248-3.home.otenet.gr] has joined #debian
02:49-!-Statj is "SJ" on #tails #debian
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02:50-!-TotallyNotKim is "ReallyNotKim" on #oftc #debian #smuxi
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02:50-!-bobe [~bobe@port-92-205-40-219.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #debian
02:50-!-bobe is "bobe" on #debian-next #oftc #debian
02:51-!-grawity is "Mantas Mikulėnas <grawity@gmail.com>" on #linode #debian-systemd
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02:51-!-cyberanger is "Got ZNC?" on #tor-project #tor #tails #smxi #openbox #ohiolinux #https-everywhere #guardianproject #freedombox #debian #debian-voip #debian-next
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02:51-!-disposable2 is "disposable2" on @#linux-ha #ovirt #ceph #debian
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02:51-!-csnxs is "nerd" on #tor-project #oftc #odamex #moocows #g7 #digitalocean #debian-next #debian #ck
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02:51-!-captnfab is "Fabien Givors (GMT+1)" on #debian
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02:51-!-mteufel is "M. Teufel <mteufel@urandom.eu.org>" on #debian
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02:52-!-coruja is "Markus Meyer" on #debian-apt #blobot #debian #siduction #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-live #lxde #siduction-de #siduction-dev #siduction-art #debian.de-offtopic #debian-boot #frickelplatz
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02:52-!-Zic is "Jonathan Marsaud" on #debian #debian-fr
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03:42<Echoz>I'm having an odd problem since I upgraded qemu-kvm from backports yesterday. I have a guest with a bridge to the host only for host-guest communication, and macvtap to appear on my LAN. After a reboot of the host, these both work perfectly, but if I then reboot the guest, both stop working completely. Anybody familiar with this problem?
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03:46<Echoz>IPv4 is configured statically in both virtual NICs, but I tried to see if they receive dhcpoffers, which they don't
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05:23<marcel_>Hi, I'm using libpam-ssh to start ssh-agent at login. How can I load multiple keys?
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05:48<birb>Quick(ish) question. Is it possible to launch the non-graphical installer from a terminal window while running Debian Live? If so, what would the command be?
05:48<birb>When I try to launch the graphical installer from Live, a good portion of it is cut off on the screen and unusable.
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05:49<Echoz>birb: hold on, i've done this before, i just have to try to remember the command
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05:50<birb>Sweet. Thank you!
05:52<Echoz>birb: try running debian-installer-launcher as root
05:54<birb>Awesome. I'll give that a try shortly and let you know if it works. :D I'm AFK from said live install at the moment.
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05:55<petn-randall>birb: The preferred way is to actually use the netinstaller. Debian live doesn't get as much polish as the Debian installer gets.
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05:57<m_robot>gns3
05:57<m_robot>Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>
05:57<m_robot>Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix>
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05:57<m_robot>Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
05:57<m_robot>Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
05:57<m_robot>ImportError: No module named 'encodings'
05:57<m_robot>Current thread 0x00007fc15f312700 (most recent call first):
05:57<m_robot>Aborted
05:58<m_robot>y
05:58<m_robot>whats this?
05:58<m_robot>help me solve this?
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05:58<hiq[m]>does anybody know of a way to combine apt-pinning nicely? I have stable / testing / backports /unstable as well as main / contrib / non-free each in decreasing order, but the problem is that a contrib pinning can override an unstable pinning unless I combine them. If I do combine them I end up with m*n rules instead of n+m. Is there a way to sum the priorities if a package matches several rules for instance?
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05:59<birb>petn-randall: I want to experiment / fiddle around with bcache prior to install. Got a spare HDD/SSD so just practicing different install methods 'n' shiz.
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06:11<birb>Echoz: That launches the graphical install rather than non-graphical. https://i.imgur.com/9mxqDob.jpg (sorry for phone pic!)
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06:12<king>نتت
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06:13<jm_>how about sudo debian-installer-launcher --text
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06:14<birb>Yep, was just about to say that. Found it in the manpage just as you said it. :P
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06:16<Echoz>birb: that should do it, for me it always ran the curses installer, probably because i was in the console
06:17<petn-randall>m_robot: Which OS are you running?
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06:28<m_robot>petn-randall: debian
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06:46<petn-randall>m_robot: which release?
06:46<m_robot>8
06:46<petn-randall>m_robot: And what are you running that causes this error?
06:46<m_robot>u mean jessie,,wheezy etc
06:46<m_robot>gns3
06:46<m_robot>i ru gns3
06:46<petn-randall>m_robot: You can paste the complete command + output to http://paste.debian.net.
06:46<m_robot>*run
06:48<m_robot>i havent used that before
06:49<duclicsic>m_robot: there are numerous instances of people reporting the same kind of errors to be found on the googles, have you tried any of the suggestions people have made?
06:49<m_robot>http://paste.debian.net./hidden/a88d16b7/
06:49<m_robot>yeah i tried i couldnt resolve it
06:49<m_robot>petn-randall: i dont how to use thsi paste.debian.net
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06:50<bakboter_>works like a charm just paste in al the info
06:52<m_robot>gns3
06:52<m_robot>Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>
06:53<m_robot>Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix>
06:53<m_robot>Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
06:53<m_robot>Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
06:53<m_robot>ImportError: No module named 'encodings'
06:53<m_robot>Current thread 0x00007f97ccc18700 (most recent call first):
06:53<m_robot>Aborted
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06:53<m_robot>gns3 is an apllication for simulating networks..i wanted to use it when i run it i get the showed error
06:53<duclicsic>quite surprised you didn't get kicked for that. please don't paste multi-line output directly into the channel
06:53<duclicsic>that is why you are being asked to use paste.debian.net
06:53<m_robot>duclicsic: can i know whats wrong in that..kinda new to irc
06:54<m_robot>i did that.
06:54<petn-randall>m_robot: You just copy the text in your terminal, and paste it on that site. It's quite easy.
06:54<m_robot>i did that.
06:54<m_robot>whats that site used for ..
06:54<duclicsic>sharing text
06:54<m_robot>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a88d16b7
06:55<petn-randall>!flood
06:55<dpkg>It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, ask me about <paste>
06:55<petn-randall>m_robot: ^^^
06:55<duclicsic>so m_robot, what did you try up until now?
06:55<m_robot>i tried reinstalling python..
06:56<m_robot>removed it ...nd installed it again
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06:57<m_robot>dpkg: hopefully i have been saved somehow
06:57<dpkg>m_robot: wish i knew
06:57<m_robot>guud
06:57<petn-randall>m_robot: gns3 works fine here. Can you show us the output of the following:
06:57<petn-randall>!bat
06:57<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
06:58<jm_>have you installed the gns3 debian package or something else?
06:58<m_robot>i have installed it
06:59<jm_>apt* install gns3?
06:59<m_robot>used the command apt-get install gns3
06:59<m_robot>nd others
06:59<jm_>OK
06:59<jm_>so provide the above
06:59<m_robot>this one apt* install gns3
07:00<m_robot>currently i am upgrading so cant run this command this time
07:01<petn-randall>m_robot: You can provide all other info though.
07:01<m_robot>what kinda info
07:01<petn-randall>!bat
07:01<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
07:01<itd>m_robot: What dpkg talked about.
07:01<petn-randall>m_robot: this ^^^
07:02<m_robot>should i paste it on that paste.debian .org
07:02<duclicsic>yes
07:02<petn-randall>m_robot: Yes, that's what the message says.
07:03<petn-randall>m_robot: Use the correct domain though, paste.debian.org doesn't exist.
07:03<duclicsic>if you install the debian package "pastebinit" you can just pipe command output directly into it, and it will send it to the site and give you the link
07:03<m_robot>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3c9432d1/
07:04<m_robot>i know..
07:04<jm_>also what is the output of locale? remember, use the paste site if it's more than 2 lines
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07:05<m_robot>okay
07:05<petn-randall>m_robot: Can you also post the output of 'apt-cache policy', as the message from dpkg says?
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07:07<m_robot>http://paste.debian.net/909674/
07:07<m_robot>did that
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07:09<duclicsic>you're installing gns3 from an ubuntu repo?
07:09<m_robot>sources file...is that the error
07:09<petn-randall>!frankendebian
07:09<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
07:10<duclicsic>m_robot: try installing it from the proper debian repos and see if you have the same problem
07:10<Echoz>remember to include stderr, though
07:10<m_robot>k..so i have to change my sources file
07:10<Echoz>oh, i was scrolled up
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07:11<Echoz>I'm sure #archlinux on freenode can help with frankendebian, they have it way worse
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07:43<modulartoil>arch: broken by default
07:44<modulartoil>"learn linux" by setting a hundred files in /etc to what their defaults would be in any other distro
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08:10<itd>Trying to backport python-sympy and it fails. Apparently because the path to the build root contains a space. Are there any (other) constraints on the path name?
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08:19<Asif>i want to contribute to debian where to start
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08:20<itd>Asif: https://www.debian.org/intro/help
08:21<modulartoil>Asif: have you tried writing to a team leader and asking them if they need a package maintainer?
08:22<Asif>no sir i am new if i learn package maintaining means i can help
08:23<modulartoil>there are many ways to help
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08:24<modulartoil>itd's link shows a list
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08:25<modulartoil>if you have some programming experience then maintaining packages of software is one way
08:25<modulartoil>you can also help with writing help pages, or with translation and internationalisation
08:25<modulartoil>these don't require programming experience and are valuable
08:27<Asif>sir can you give me your email i will contact you after learning maintaining packages
08:28<modulartoil>i'm not a team leader so i don't have the authority
08:28<Asif>ok sir
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08:29<modulartoil>https://wiki.debian.org/Teams here is a list of teams
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08:31<modulartoil>you can join a mailing list there
08:32<ilikecomputers>So I'm trying to install tftpd-hpa because all of these modern guides are telling me to use that specific package for what I'm trying to do. However tftpd-hpa is not in the apt list
08:32<ilikecomputers>I've made sure my repos are updated
08:32<ilikecomputers>there are other TFTP server packages I have installed on my debian
08:33<ilikecomputers>However these guides are telling me to use tftpd-hpa and the configuration for other tftp servers is different
08:33<ilikecomputers>Why isn't that tftpd-hpa in the apt list? why isn't it an available package?
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08:33<ilikecomputers>I can manually download it from their website but these guides specifcally say to use the package installer
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08:33<modulartoil>just a sec
08:33<itd>judd: versions tftpd-hpa
08:33<judd>Package: tftpd-hpa on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.2-4; jessie: 5.2+20140608-3; sid: 5.2+20150808-1; stretch: 5.2+20150808-1
08:34<ilikecomputers>So isn't Kali linux a version of jessie debian
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08:34<ilikecomputers>because that's what I'm using
08:34<itd>dpkg: kali
08:34<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
08:34<grove>!kali
08:34<modulartoil>can you post the output of 'tftpd-hpa'
08:34<ilikecomputers>oh
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08:34<modulartoil>oh you're on kali
08:34<modulartoil>yeah try their channel
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08:35<ilikecomputers>ah ok sorry I didn't realize they were different. I will do that. Thank you!
08:35<modulartoil>it's in the repos here
08:35<modulartoil>no probs
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11:42<mjukk>Hi! I have installed Debian 8.2 (i think) on a VPS and connecting through Putty. I have played around a little. Instealled Git i think and another program i'm running. That program is doing some calculations, and i want to keep it going. How do i keep it running? Will it stop if i terminate Putty? Do i need to stop it and start it using Screen for example? Or will it just keep going until i terminate it? Thank for any help!
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11:46<muep_>mjukk: normally it would terminate when you disconnect unless you take some action to make it do otherwise
11:47<blast007>mjukk: the process will terminate if you close putty. using screen or tmux is one way to solve that (and you can later reattach to the same session to get back to your running processes). nohup is another way.
11:47<muep_>mjukk: screen or a similar program would be a very common way to do it
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11:48<peter1138>ctrl-z and then bg is a "oh shit i forgot" way to do it
11:48<modulartoil>you can also use nohup to detach the command from your current login session
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11:56<grove>Detaching it from your terminal (with either nohup or bg) will probably make it hard to get to it's terminal output at a later stage
11:57<muep_>does bg really detach it?
11:57<mjukk>thanks guys. so it sounds like screen would be a good option then?
11:57<muep_>I'd use tmux but screen is pretty much the same thing
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12:07<mjukk>thanks a lot
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13:02<r4f_debian>Hi all
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13:03<Echoz>Are there any good password/sensitive info managers available for debian?
13:03<Echoz>Ideally what I want is an encrypted sqlite database with a passphrase, but it seems easier said than done, at least without developing my own solution
13:04<Echoz>I don't want it to do anything else than show me the info I query from a cli
13:05<r4f_debian>Please, I haven't had much time recently to make some research in the official Debian site, I'd like to know when Debian Stretch is going to be released in the stable version
13:06<hiq[m]>r4f_debian: when it's ready, there is no date
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13:06<Echoz>in terms of security, the decrypted data must never be stored in non-volatile memory (i.e. swapping, temp files), and must use a strong cipher
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13:07<r4f_debian>Hi hiq[m]thanks for answering !
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13:09<Echoz>so far the best idea ive had is to encrypt the db and put it in a ramfs through a script, but it seems awfully cumbersome
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13:12<jrtc27>Echoz: make sure to mlock any pages before decrypted data is written to them
13:12<jrtc27>and beware of suspend writing RAM to disk
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13:20<petn-randall>Echoz: keepass2/keepassx are both good password managers.
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13:34<Echoz>petn-randall: do they support arbitrary data fields as well as queries via command line?
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13:41<Echoz>seems like sqlcipher might be what im looking for
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14:11<lucascastro>do someone know a files manager that support print a bunch of files at once?
14:12<dboles>what kind of files? isn't printing the job of a document viewer or similar, rather than a file manager?
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14:12<dboles>i would guess in that case that most file managers can perform multi-file selection, and pass them all to a chosen program
14:12<dboles>the question is then which programs support multi-file printing of the formats you want
14:13<dtw>lpr -P printer file1.pdf file2.pdf ...
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14:16<lucascastro>my question if that was someone know something ready to use and simple, I was using eom, eye of mate, as file viewer but it doesn't print all selected files.
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14:17<lucascastro>I think I must need to write an plugin for caja.
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15:23<DaemonCZE>Hi everyone, I have a little problem with Debian, exactly under Debian, with HDD. Situation: server Dell PE R710, LSI 9207 - only HBA, 2 HDD - one SATA, one SAS 15k ... on SATA HDD I can write something about 170-200 M/s (iotop), but on SAS 15k HDD only max 20 M/s. Everything is the same. I don't understand that :D :/
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15:27<mots>That's the fastest SATA HDD I've ever seen.
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15:28<Echoz>DaemonCZE: I had a similar problem, 3 15K drives in RAID0, but speed maxed out at about 20 MBps as well
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15:29<Echoz>I concluded one of the drives were bad, didn't really need that VD, though, so it was easier for me to conclude with that.
15:29<Echoz>this weas a PE 2950, though, a little older
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15:31<Echoz>I actually still have that RAID in the server, just no data. I'll see how the speed is now
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15:32<DaemonCZE>yep ... I also thought that, but this is second session with different HDD, LSI card nad server (last was Supermicro and Supermicro card) ... but only with SAS HDD i have this problem :(
15:32<DaemonCZE>I have to make decision, which HDD I have to buy for mdadm array - SAS or SATA ...
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15:33<mots>I've also made some bad experiences with LSI SAS 3008 controllers. The only way to fix the abysmal speeds was to buy controllers with the 8108 chips because that has hardware raid
15:33<DaemonCZE>This problem I have with SAS 7,2k RPM also with 15k HDD
15:33<mots>*3108
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15:33<mots>LSI controllers with mdadm aren't fun onGNU/Linux in my experience.
15:34<DaemonCZE>mots: oh :(
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15:34<DaemonCZE>:'(
15:34<mots>mdadm RAID 5 made of 10 Samsung 850 Pro SSDs, write speed 50MB/s.
15:35<DaemonCZE>huh ... it is not too much
15:35<Echoz>DaemonCZE: Yeah, my RAID0 performance is fluctuating between 10 and 50 MBps, with 3 15k drives in RAID0....
15:35<mots>Yeah, it went up to 2GB/s after I switched the controllers to those with hardware raid
15:35<Echoz>I'll test my RAID5 that I actually use
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15:36<Echoz>raid5 is fluctuating between 95 and 125 MBps
15:37<Echoz>This is my controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 1078
15:37<DaemonCZE>mots: but on this controller LSI 9207 with SATA in RAID10 I have nice speed ... around 150-200 M/s ... RAID6 is slower, but still ok, but SAS HDD ... :/
15:37<DaemonCZE>yep, MegaRAID from Dell work's fine
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15:38<Echoz>DaemonCZE: not my RAID0 VD unfortunately, but of course one of the drives may be bad
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15:41<DaemonCZE>many thanks for all for consultation. I will try to replace the controller, but still I try to find something for mdadm (like HBA) for HDDs to system, not only as virutal drive from HW RAID ... but if it does not work, I use HW RAID card.
15:41<DaemonCZE>THX
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15:41<Echoz>DaemonCZE: does this controller give you a JBOD option?
15:42<DaemonCZE>nope :( ... I can only create virtual drive R0, R1, R10, R5, R6...
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15:43<DaemonCZE>HBA is nice for smartmontools for monitoring too.
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15:44<mots>I'm going to get flak for this, but install Windows and check the speeds again. That way you can at least make sure that the hardware is fine.
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15:46<DaemonCZE>ok, I'll try it :)
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15:47<braunr>hello
15:47<braunr>i'm having a bug with libpam-gnome-keyring on jessie, the keyring daemon is started correctly, but the environment doesn't get the variable identifying it (using lightdm)
15:48<braunr>i'm not seeing any error in auth.log, nothing in lightdm.log or others
15:49<braunr>i expect something goes wrong during login, maybe a race with dbus, but i don't know how to get any logs about that
15:49<braunr>any idea ?
15:50<DaemonCZE>SAS: http://1.1m.yt/cuOfJ60.png
15:50<DaemonCZE>SATA: http://1.1m.yt/oRxD97H.png
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15:57<mots>Yeah, that's really slow.
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16:01<DaemonCZE>yep, very slow :D ... bad carma :/
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16:22<mjukk>i i was asking questions earlier about screen and tmux. i tried tmux and it worked perfectly. thanks for the help again
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16:23<somiaj>yea tmux has a few things that make it work nicer. Screen is just the old standard that many use because they dont' want to learn new things
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16:45<spande>I did an upgrade from wheezy to jessie and rebooted. I got http://s17.postimg.org/9bjjyapan/gdm_error.png
16:46<spande>how can I figure out what's wrong?
16:46<spande>I can log into the box remotely via ssh
16:47<braunr>check logs in /var/log
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16:58<spande>gdm greeter issue of some kind
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17:10<mjukk>is there a way of seeing how much l3 cpu memory is being used?
17:11<mjukk>i don't think htop gives me that info. or am i missing it?
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17:17<braunr>mjukk: no, you'd need a specific cpu tool for that
17:18<braunr>mjukk: you can know how much you have though
17:18<braunr>see /proc/cpuinfo
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17:20<braunr>mjukk: what are you trying to do ?
17:23<mjukk>trying to figure out how much l3 memory my vps cpus have
17:24<braunr>why ?
17:25<mjukk>trying to mine a virtual currency, and the mining requires ample l3 memory
17:26<braunr>mining in a vps ?
17:27<mjukk>yes
17:27<braunr>is it dedicated ?
17:27<mjukk>no
17:27<braunr>so probably not cpu-bound
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17:27<braunr>so it would probably not matter anyway
17:27<mjukk>not sure what cpu bound means but its vCPU
17:28<mjukk>how come?
17:28<braunr>it means your vcpu is a thread that's gonna migrate between real cpus
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17:28<braunr>if the l3 cache isn't shared by all cores, you'll have misses
17:29<braunr>in any case, since it's shared, other users are going to cause load on it
17:29<braunr>unless they're all idle
17:29<braunr>and finally, since it's virtual, the virtual machine can give you any value it wants
17:29<braunr>mining is normally done on dedicated physical hardware
17:30<mjukk>oh right.. yeah. its just very small scale for fun.
17:30<mjukk>hope the provider does not get mad im using up l3 memory
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17:31<braunr>he won't
17:31<dboles>i don't think cache works that way :)
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17:32<braunr>dboles: what way ?
17:32<mjukk>yeah i totally have no idea what im talking about. but thanks for the help
17:33<dboles>braunr: in the sense that it's a resource that can be depleted
17:33<braunr>well
17:33<dboles>or at least
17:33<braunr>it would be like the processor
17:33<dboles>that mjukk's mining will significantly hinder cache performance for other users
17:33<braunr>still consumed
17:33<braunr>it could
17:33<braunr>it depends on the vm setup
17:34<braunr>but it's not merely the cache, it's cpu time in general
17:34<dboles>yeah
17:34<braunr>but workloads with a footprint close enough to the cache size may get heavily impacted, if there are any
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17:35<dboles>sadly my work's vms have a really easy life, so i never have any pressure to really think about any of this ;)
17:35<braunr>:)
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17:35<braunr>mine are cpu-bound and hugetlbfs-backed
17:35<dboles>interesting points, will have to look up some info on it (that'll help me sleep for sure)
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17:36<braunr>:D
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18:12<dalada>help
18:13<dalada>is it possible that irc was easier 10 years ago?
18:13<towo`>??
18:14<dalada>I beleive I have joined the channel #debian?
18:14<towo`>sure
18:14<dalada>first success today
18:14<towo`>but what's your real problem?
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18:15<dalada>is it the right place to ask beginners questions?
18:15<towo`>it's the right place for asking debian related questions
18:16<dalada>yeah, sure.
18:16<dalada>and of course google and duckduckgo did there best
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18:16<towo`>and btw
18:16<towo`>!ask
18:16<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
18:17<dalada>so I am stuck at getting into single user mode on an arm based debian jessie. Only answers I found were for ealier versions or grub.
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18:18<dalada>the problem is, that I can switch to init 1 (is this what I want with systemd?) but afterwards I have no shell.
18:20<dalada>There was one answer saying I have to enalbe getty for init 1, but I cannot find where to change this in jessie
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18:21<user__>I am having an issue installing Debian from a USB drive, I get all the way to "Installing system" and then it ask me to put a CD in ... O.o?
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18:21<mtn>user__: how did you make the usb? did you used unetbootin?
18:22<user__>Rufus 2.11
18:22<towo`>bad choice
18:22<mtn>!win32diskimager
18:22<dpkg>win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details.
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18:24<user__>cool cool will do and I was thinking that was the issue, I don't have win32diskimager on my laptop so I was being lazy :P
18:24<user__>Thanks guys :)
18:25<braunr>dalada: what are the kernel arguments ?
18:26<dalada>how can I find out?
18:26<dalada>I have not touched bootloader or init so far
18:27<braunr>i'm not familiar with debian on arm
18:27<braunr>but that's where you should look i suppose
18:27<amacater>dalada - What's the board that you're working with?
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18:28<user__>One more thing, anyone have good links for dual monitors (5) ?
18:29<dalada>its cubietruck and I am using the latest armbian image Mainline 4.8.15
18:29<user__>An yes I am still being lazy to not google it lol
18:29<amacater>OK - don't use Armbian - use Debian? The Debian installer will work fine :)
18:30<amacater>Sadly, we're not really experts in Armbian
18:30<dalada>because lazy is ok here: was to lazy to atach monitor and keyboard at the beginning
18:31<user__>:P yep
18:31<dalada>ok, I will ask at armbian directly
18:31<amacater>You may find that monitor won't always work - but serial will, at least to get it running
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18:31<dalada>Yeah, this would be my next try
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18:32<user__> monitor and keyboard, who needs them the days? lol
18:32<amacater>There are issues with Allwinner sometimes - their kernel patches are not always integrated into the mainline - but Cubietruck works quite well: there's one next door in my office running fine
18:32<dalada>you would need them if you cannot get speech recognition in early boot steps
18:33<amacater>If you're visually impaired, that's another matter - but serial console works really well
18:34<amacater>Check out the Debian wiki
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18:35<amacater>For most ARM boards - esp. those using Mali graphics / the Raspberry Pis - installing with a serial console is the easiest way to get stuff started
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18:35<dalada>Another question then: My main concern is to move /var to another partition. What I cannot fully understand is, why I have to be cut off from /var-access. Accessing the files for reading should be possible, and if I understood right, most of accesses is for logs. Why not just setting fstab entry and rebooting?
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18:36<amacater>https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner
18:36<dalada>amacater - Thanks very much. I have to buy a serial to USB adapter first, again, this is my lazyness. But I have read a lot that it is recommended especially for the arm based systems.
18:37<braunr>whenever you're working with embedded stuff, serial access is a must
18:37<dalada>when I am working with embedded stuff in normal case I have at least JTAG :)
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18:38<dalada>and believe me, this is one of my later projects
18:38<braunr>ok :)
18:39<dalada>no joke, you convinced me, I will buy a serial cable tomorrow
18:40<dalada>Back to my other question: Is it possible to leave out the part, where /var is copied to /var.log and just change /etc/fstab and reboot?
18:40<dalada>Would that cause any bad behavior?
18:42<braunr>no idea
18:44<dalada>I'll try
18:44<dalada>Thanks so far.
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18:50<amacater>If you do buy a USB-serial - make sure you only use 3.3 - don't connect the 5V power pin - I used one suitable for Raspberry Pi - the Adafruit one is also good.
18:51<dalada>Good point. I will have a look.
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19:14<dalada>just as information: switching /var to a partition has not yet shown any problems if I understand logs correctly
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19:20<AlexMax>Question
19:20<AlexMax>I have just installed debian on a virtual machine
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19:20<AlexMax>while I was tasksel installing Cinnamon, I got a couple of errors - EXT4-fs (sda2): unable to read superblock
19:21<AlexMax>that twice
19:21<AlexMax>then
19:21<AlexMax>FAT-fs (sda2): bogus number of reserved sectors
19:21<braunr>ouch
19:21<braunr>on a vm you say
19:21<braunr>what software ?
19:21<AlexMax>qnx4: no qnx4 filesystem (no root dir)
19:21<braunr>ah
19:21<AlexMax>VMWare Player 12
19:22<braunr>what file system did you chose ?
19:22<AlexMax>whatever was the default for the textmode install of debian 8.3 netinstall
19:22<AlexMax>i presume ex4
19:22<AlexMax>ext4
19:22<braunr>hm, maybe the errors occurred before
19:22<AlexMax>Could my actual hard drive be corrupted?
19:22<braunr>i wouldn't worry about that
19:22<braunr>no
19:22<AlexMax>or is this just a virtualization hiccup
19:22<braunr>the system is just probing the file system types
19:22<braunr>no it would happen on real hardware too
19:23<AlexMax>i probably should have chosen XFS
19:23<braunr>depends what you're doing
19:23<AlexMax>i actually ran out of inodes once, so I now try to use XFS whenever possible
19:23<AlexMax>:P
19:23<braunr>eh :)
19:24<AlexMax>i'm not one of those gentoo users who tries to "micro-optimize" everything
19:25<AlexMax>is that an out of date reference?
19:25<braunr>it's no
19:25<braunr>it's not
19:26<AlexMax>or is https://fun.irq.dk/funroll-loops.org/ still fresh in the minds of linux users these days
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19:30<braunr>eh
19:30<braunr>good night
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19:39<newbieirc>How to enter a private room?
19:40<dalada>at least you can just create a room by entering /join #roomname
19:41<dalada>and somehow it should then be possible to set a password
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19:44<jla>Is there a cli apt interface that will highlight if a linux-image is hidden in that long list of libfoo updates? I'd sure like to have it jump out in red or something instead of squinting at the screen.
19:44<jla>An apt upgrade-all-but-kernel might be nice in some cases.
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19:48<dalada>you could set flags for the kernel package to not automatically update
19:50<dalada>its somehow --set-selections <package-name> hold
19:51<dalada>sorry, dpkg !!
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19:52<jla>that's true. I could hold the package then un-hold it later. The --all-but-kernel might flip that on just for that run so it's not persisted to need unholding later.
19:52<tomcres>apt-mark hold foo / apt-mark unhold foo
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19:56<dalada>there's always a better way
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19:56<jla>I guess I could make a script that wraps apt in that but... I hope there's a better way :)
19:57<jla>plus I'd really love to have linux-image-* jump out in bold red
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19:58<annadane>anyone know off-hand how to toggle the sound that plays when the gnome-clocks timer reaches 0?
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20:10<annadane>(ideally, mute it...)
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20:20<dalada>annadane - after short research I found nothing useful except, you could configure it via pulseaudio while it is playing
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20:20<annadane>will try, thanks
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20:21<dalada>by the way, they have an extra irc channel: irc://irc.gimp.org/%23gnome-clocks
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21:09<real007>someone people cant help me, i have debian jessie 7.1, and not write isos, why dont have module scsi, i have portable computer intel pavillon Icore 7
21:09<real007>help
21:09<real007>someone people speak spanisjh
21:09<real007>someone people speak spanish
21:09<annadane>!es
21:09<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
21:10<real007>ok
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21:14<annadane>!commands
21:14<dpkg>i heard commands is The Linux command reference may be found here: http://justlinux.com/nhf/Command_Reference and here: http://justlinux.com/nhf/Shells/Basic_Console_Commands.html
21:15<annadane>sorry, should probably have whispered that
21:15<xyzone>jessie 7.1?
21:16<Dark-Jedi>Umm, I'm getting a Error 404 on both of those links.
21:16<annadane>yeah, 7 is wheezy, 8 is jessie
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21:16<Dark-Jedi>9 is sid, and 10 is "may kill kittens"
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21:17<Dark-Jedi>annadane: On those links you invoked from the bot, are you able to access those pages?
21:17<annadane>i'm not, no
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21:18<Dark-Jedi>The bot needs to be reprogrammed...
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21:20<xyzone>the toy story names will run out soon
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21:22<dvs>????
21:22<dvs>9 is stretch
21:22<dvs>and sid will always be sid
21:22<Dark-Jedi>My bad
21:22<Dark-Jedi>I love Sid, most of the time. :P
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22:49<StolenClothes>hey, I'm trying to compile gimp-git on debian 8 but the libs are not compatible even on backports. Is there another option to upgrade debian stabe or is testing the only option?
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