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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-22

---Logopened Sun Jan 22 00:00:12 2017
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00:21<armando>Is it considered bad practice to install a package from sid in stretch? I'm reading the dont' break debian page and it's talking about how mising packages from debian stable and other debian repos is a bad idea... I understand that stretch isn't currently stable but when it becomes stable I was considering sticking wit it. Would this be considered a franken debian machine?
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00:37<Vyrus001>I realise this kind of thing is not encouraged but, looking to redo a box for server / mobile workstation functionality and im an offensive security guy so im looking for as much general tool compatability as possible) and i was looking at using either kFreeBSD debian or gentoo freebsd, both with a hardened BSD kernel (if possible) input?
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05:16<debbi>Hello. I want to search the debian bug reports. On https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ there is a link to http://bugs-search.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi but that link is dead.
05:17<debbi>Correction: the link isn't dead, but the page returns a 403 error ("Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/search.cgi on this server.")
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05:17<debbi>So, 1) where can I search the bug reports? 2) where should I report this broken link?
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05:18<deux>hello everyone, i need help with SAMBA server configuration. does anyone have a fool-proof manual? i've tried like 5-8 and nothing works
05:18<deux>(can't see my shares on another debian pc)
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05:20<thomas_>good morning
05:20<thomas_>how would I find out what package a given gnome3 applet belongs to?
05:20<thomas_>I am trying to fix a bug in the wacom configuration code
05:21<thomas_>and would like to download the source package
05:22<musca>thomas_: apt-file is able to find the package a given file belongs to.
05:23<musca>!samba
05:23<dpkg>Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ http://samba.org/samba/docs/ http://wiki.samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <dfs>.
05:23<musca>deux: ^
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05:24<deux>thank you!
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05:27<musca>debbi: did you use the submit button?
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05:36<hems>hi
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05:55<debbi>musca: I did not. I simply clicked the link on https://www.debian.org/Bugs/
05:55<debbi>Under "Searching bug reports" it reads this: "You can search bug reports using our HyperEstraier based search engine."
05:56<debbi>So I clicked "HyperEstraier based search engine" and got the 403.
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06:21<thomas_>musca: thanks
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08:23<MarkL1>Hi, I would like to copy some few things, text files and links to programs but seems impossible, even if I copy the file in the desktop folder it will not appear on the desktop that is empty, why?
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08:24<MarkL1>I want to copy stuff on my gnome desktop, files or link to files and programs*
08:25<abrotman>did you tell Nautilus to manage your desktop?
08:25<MarkL1>no, maybe I should learn how to do it
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08:27<zapotah>apparently the snmpd sysvinit script breaks stuff when running containers on the machine
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08:28<zapotah>issuing a restart of snmpd on the host stops all the snmpd processes in the containers
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08:51<zapotah>found a patch from last february
08:51<zapotah>please push to package maintainer
08:52<zapotah>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815142
08:52<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/815142 in snmpd (open, patch): «snmpd: dose not start snmpd when LXC containers (running snmpd process inside it) exists»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-02-19; last modified: 2016-02-19.
08:52<zapotah>this looks like a regression from 2014
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09:39<Linnak> Hi, At this moment what is the difference between RC1 and weekly ISO?
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09:46<abrotman>Linnak: RC1 is a release-candidate version, and should be more stable at the moment. They'll be continuing to merge code, etc, into the weekly (which may include more lightly tested code)
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09:46<Speed2u>How does g-sync monitors work in debian? I use nvidia-drivers but what i could understand g-sync is a windows-only thing. However i hooked up one g-sync monitor to my debianbox today just to test some things out and when trying to change some settings on the monitor i get the message "not available in g-sync mode", so it seems that g-sync is enabled by default if using 144 Hz frequense? Is it
09:46<Speed2u>possible to turn that off withoout the need of changing update-frequense
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10:01<Linnak>abrotman: thanks
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11:41<r4f_debian>HI all
11:42<r4f_debian>Please to any Debian Warrior who can help me on this: I don't understand this error message existing in line 17: https://paste.debian.net/909967/
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11:42<dboles>That is just a config line. Where is the error?
11:43<tomcres>r4f_debian: errors=remount-ro just directs the system to remount the file system as read-only if it encounters errors. It's not an error itself.
11:44<r4f_debian>Hi dboles, thanks for answering me :). Well, I thought it was about any error, because it is referring to any issue using 'error' term, dboles
11:44<r4f_debian>in the line 17
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11:44<dboles>in that case, what tomcres said
11:44<r4f_debian>oh, I see, tomcres
11:45<r4f_debian>Fine ! thanks for attention and Great Support, dboles and tomcres ! :)
11:45<dboles>enjoy your error-free filesystem :P
11:45<r4f_debian>Anyone who complains about Debian Support here must be crazy :) Support here is always precise and fast ! Really Thanks !
11:46<r4f_debian>yeah dboles :)
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11:52<narann>hi everyone, I have a ticket ready to be submitted: irc.debian.org
11:53<narann>Sorry, here: http://pastebin.com/dYjfJPFX
11:53<PEdrArthur>Hi, folks! Does anyone knows where I can find apt-install source code?
11:53<dboles>narann: so add the package name and version to the top in the required format, and email it
11:54<narann>but I wonder where I should post the ticket, directly on debian ticket repo or here bugzilla.kernel.org
11:54<dboles>ah, well i don't see an issue with posting it to debian
11:54<dboles>as it was the upgrade that caused the problem, and they can forward it upstream if it's a bug in the new version of some package
11:55<narann>Here is the place to go? https://www.debian.org/Bugs/
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11:55<narann>Sorry, it's my first time
11:56<dboles>well, yeah, in the sense that at that page, you are linked to a guide that explains the submission process
11:56<dboles>which i personally think is a little too much like a 1980s text adventure game, but that's what we have
11:56<narann>reportbug right?
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11:56<dboles>yeah, that command will ask you a bunch of questions and set up the email for submission to the bugs address
11:57<dboles>(and email it if you have a supported client, otherwise it gives you a text dump you can paste)
11:57<narann>great, I will do that. Linux is a big 1980s text adventure game with computer feature embeeded
11:57<dboles>haha, true. all these graphical bugtrackers have forgotten what they stand for ;-)
11:58<narann>:D
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12:00<r3muxd>What makes a system appear as "jessie/sid" on the login screen? I know that means it uses packages from jessie and sid, but what triggers that?
12:01<narann>what do you refer on? I'm not supposed to use si, just jessie with backport
12:02<tomcres>r3muxd: is it a system that last updated when jessie was testing?
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12:03<r3muxd>tomcres: Maybe that's it. I did install debian over a year ago, ran it in testing, then eventually switched to sid.
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12:06<r3muxd>But what actually triggers it?
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12:07<tomcres>r3muxd: it's the contents of /etc/issue. they get updated with a certain package tied to the release you're using. I don't recall the specific package though.
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12:10<r3muxd>tomcres: thanks!
12:11<jasabella>so apart from xauth, what other packages do i need if i'm going to be forwarding X entirely?
12:11<jasabella>on a remote server
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13:17<danxx26>hello
13:18<danxx26>wondering if anyone has tried building ckermit from source on Jessie
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13:26<c01d>Hello everybody! I am on stretch. I just wanted to report a bug, but .... reportbug is buggy. :-( This is not a joke. Any tips?
13:27<c01d>(There comes up an pythonish error message telling VTE module is missing, or something like that.)
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13:27<Arcade>Hi c01d this channel is for Jessie, you might try #debian-next for help :)
13:27<c01d>Arcade, okay, thank you very much!
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13:29<Heston>co1d, you can report bugs directly at https://www.debian.org/Bugs/
13:30<c01d>Heston, okay, I will do that. Thank you. :-)
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13:30<danxx26>when I install ckermit using apt-get the program works but tells me that SSL/TLS features are disabled because it was built against an older openssl library than the one available on my Jessie system
13:31<Heston>np
13:31<danxx26>when I try to compile from source it tells me following
13:31<danxx26>ckufio.c:(.text+0xb41c): undefined reference to `crypt' ckcnet.o: In function `locate_srv_dns': ckcnet.c:(.text+0x3a84): undefined reference to `__res_search' ckcnet.c:(.text+0x3ac4): undefined reference to `__dn_expand' ckcnet.c:(.text+0x3b0e): undefined reference to `__dn_expand' ckcnet.c:(.text+0x3ba2): undefined reference to `__dn_expand' ckcnet.o: In function `locate_txt_rr': ckcnet.c:(.text+0x916a): undefined referenc
13:33<danxx26>would prefer to figure out the source issue as I think I would benefit from learning .. thank you
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13:38<Heston>danxx26, If I had to guess, id say you're missing some headers
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13:41<danxx26_>I just found an old bug archive that appears unresolved :( #809750
13:41<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/809750 in ckermit (open): «Please package newer ckermit»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2016-01-03; last modified: 2016-01-03.
13:42<danxx26_>Yep I just saw that thanks :(
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13:43<Heston>judd is a bot
13:44<Heston>and that's not a critical bug and isnt related
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13:45<danxx26_>Ahhh I see
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13:45<danxx26_>Any ideas on getting around my error?
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13:47<jasabella>connection died :(
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13:49<danxx26_>Correct me if I am wrong but it appears to have an issue locating my libraries
13:50<somiaj>danxx26_: do you have the -dev version of the libaries (headers) installed so y ou can build against them? Also is this in a multiarch enviorment? (unsure on the details of the package you are trying to build)
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13:51<danxx26_>I tried installing -dev libs but when I attempted to locate them for OpenSSL by using apt-get it was unable to find any
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13:52<somiaj>libssl someting I belive
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13:53<somiaj>libssl-dev in stretch, unsure about jessie
13:53<danxx26_>It says it's already installed
13:54<danxx26_>libssl-dev
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13:54<somiaj>could it be you need a different version of lib ssl then provided?
13:55<danxx26_>Maybe
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13:55<somiaj>check the actual reason your build isn't finding the lib. Also is this a multiarch issue where you are builiding 32bit and should do this in a clean chroot?
13:57<danxx26_>No not building 32bit .. it's 64bit
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13:58<danxx26_>Thank you Somiaj checking now
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14:26<Linnak>Hi, after installing testing and after grub I have /dev/sda1: recovering journal message. Doesn't boot. What's wrong?
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14:30<Linnak>/dev/sda1: clean 148095/3514368 files, 1339907/14049280 blocks
14:30<Linnak>this is the sencond and the last line
14:31<Linnak>Vbox version 5.1.14
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15:36<Xylon>I have held broken packages on a fresh 32bit install of Jessie
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15:36<Xylon>I cannot install pyflakes 3 for these reasons:
15:36<Xylon>pylint3 : Depends: python3-astroid (>= 1.4.1) but 1.2.1-3 is to be installed
15:36<Xylon>Recommends: python3-tk but it is not going to be installed
15:37<Xylon>OK I got it rom backports and now it works
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15:44<notmez>sIt's a real pain to get a damn bit of music from my Debian to my iPhone cuz no iTunes support. However, could I place the music from my Linux to iCloud, and from iCloud to my iPhone? So I don't need that syncing with cable and blablabla?
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15:53<danxx26>It looks like I may be on my way to resolving my Kermit issue.. I spoke to the developer and it looks like I was using old sources.. I will try building the ones provided and let you know what the outcome is
15:54<notmez>Thanks!
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16:28<nChomsky>Hello?
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16:28<dboles>!ask
16:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
16:29<dboles>(good name btw)
16:29<nChomsky>Thanks. :)
16:30<nChomsky>I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
16:30<amacater>OK - problems?
16:31<nChomsky>But getting some errors, as being unable to "Fetch"
16:31<nChomsky>I'm on a Debian Jessie 8.7
16:31<dboles>What are the exact error messages?
16:32<nChomsky>thoreau@user:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Err http://security.debian.org jessie/updates InRelease Err http://security.debian.org jessie/updates Release.gpg Could not resolve 'security.debian.org' Err http://ftp.br.debian.org jessie InRelease Err http://ftp.br.debian.org jessie-updates InRelease Err http://deb.whonix.org jessie InRelease Err http://ftp.br.debian.org jes
16:32<nChomsky>Wow, sorry...
16:32<nChomsky>The layout is all over the place, let me organize that...
16:32<amacater>There was an issue at one point with fresh installs having problems with DNS and name resolution
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16:33<nChomsky>Oh!
16:33<amacater>If this is a very recent install, try with Debian 8.7.1
16:33<nChomsky>Overwrite the OS?
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16:34<amacater>Hang on, that may be quite old.
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16:35<amacater>Test - install a small package
16:35<nChomsky>Any suggestions?
16:35<dboles>vim!
16:35<amacater>Something like nvi - the classic Vi editor
16:36<dboles>hah
16:36<amacater>Ping the mirror
16:36<nChomsky>so "apt-get instal nvi"?
16:36<amacater>Yes
16:37<nChomsky>Err http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main nvi amd64 1.81.6-11+b1
16:37<nChomsky>Could not resolve 'ftp.br.debian.org'
16:37<nChomsky>Could not resolve 'ftp.br.debian.org'
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16:37<nChomsky>E: Failed to fetch http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/nvi/nvi_1.81.6-11+b1_amd64.deb Could not resolve 'ftp.br.debian.org'
16:38<nChomsky>E: Failed to fetch http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/nvi/nvi-doc_1.81.6-11_all.deb Could not resolve 'ftp.br.debian.org'
16:38<nChomsky>E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
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16:39<amacater>ftp.br.debian.org is up - at IP address -200.236.31.3
16:39<nChomsky>Posting cod her is horrible XD
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16:39<amacater>!pastebin
16:39<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
16:40<nChomsky>Oh, ok.
16:40<amacater>And responds to ping - what do dig / traceroute say
16:41<amacater>Also - can you reach other websites / Google or whatever - is it a more general problem
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16:43<nChomsky>By the way, this is the whole original error: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/74e94a3d/
16:43<nChomsky>It finds google, I'l copy the response.
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16:45<amacater>Thanks - what version of apt exactly - apt here is apt 1.0.9.8.4 for amd64 compiled on Dec 11 2016 09:48:19 , for example [apt --version will give you this]
16:45<nChomsky>Google: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/91f2c473/
16:46<nChomsky>Here is apt 1.0.9.8.4 for amd64 compiled on Dec 11 2016 09:48:19
16:46<nChomsky>Same thing.
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16:48<amacater>As a temporary solution - try using httpredir - http://httpredir.debian.org/ gives details / change ot ftp.us.debian.org instead of br and try updates
16:48<amacater>!br
16:48<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
16:49<amacater>If there's anyone there that can help - who will be closer to Brazil :)
16:49<nChomsky>Well thanks. XD
16:50<nChomsky>But you're being so helpful...
16:50<nChomsky>Anyway, should I just paste "httpredir - http://httpredir.debian.org/ gives details / change ot ftp.us.debian.org"
16:50<amacater>It's OK - this sort of thing is _REALLY_ hard to debug
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16:50<nChomsky>in my terminal?
16:51<amacater>No, if you got to that URL, it tells you how to amend the /etc/apt/sources.list to reference httpredir - a network of htpmirrors that attempt to geolocate where you are / give best mirror.
16:51<amacater>Before you do this, copy the file so that you can put back the original :)
16:52<nChomsky>Oh my god, is NSA going to tag me for it? XD
16:52<nChomsky>Ok, let me see...
16:53<amacater>Changing .br to .us in the /etc/apt/sources.list would point you at the US mirrors - but, depending where you are, that might make for quite a difficult link speed or whatever - I don't know how .br is connected
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16:55<nChomsky>Noob question:
16:55<nChomsky>Where is "sources.list" located?
16:55<nChomsky>The page assumes that I already know. XD
16:55<petn-randall>nChomsky: How far did you get with your own research?
16:56<dboles>tip: find / -name sources.list
16:56<nChomsky>My own research? I guess I didn't make a dent.
16:57<amacater>Chomsky: /etc/apt/sources.list as given above
16:58<nChomsky>Thanks!
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17:07<nChomsky>Ok, so here is my modified sources.list: https://paste.debian.net/910035/
17:07<nChomsky>And this is what shows up: https://paste.debian.net/910034/
17:07<nChomsky>Why the hell is my Whonix appearing on these results...?
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17:12<nChomsky>Ping
17:13<nChomsky>Oh, ok, I though I disconnected.
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17:14<admin_ox>Hello. It seems I have no "root" user, in the "users" table of database "mysql" in my mysql. is that normal situation?
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17:19<nChomsky>Hello.
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17:20<amacater>Hi nChomsky - So if you have a line for whonix, comment it out with a # as the first character, perhaps?
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17:22<nChomsky>But whonix its not showing up in the sourceslist https://paste.debian.net/910035/
17:23<nChomsky>By the way, I commented everything out except for "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main"
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17:27<amacater>OK, last check - under /etc/apt.conf.d - any other sources.list files?
17:28<dboles>and in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
17:29<amacater>This is ordinary Debian - and not some other Debian derivative?
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17:31<nChomsky>Vanilla Debian, I have Whonix installed as a VM. Whonix currently does peform "apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade" normally.
17:32<nChomsky>There is a sources.list in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d
17:32<nChomsky>None such file under /etc/apt.conf.d
17:32<nChomsky>BUT!
17:32<amacater>Aha :) Not something crazy like networking virbr being the active interface
17:33<amacater>:
17:33<amacater>And therefore not being able to connect for some strange network-y reason?
17:34<nChomsky>There is another sources.list.d folder inside the sources.list.d folder with the file Whonix.list.
17:34<nChomsky>Now it makes sense XD
17:34<amacater>OK, so maybe move that to another name and try again
17:35<amacater>if something puts an additional sources.list in there, it may be read first before the "legacy" /etc/apt/sources.list location. That's how you add PPA in Ubuntu, I think.
17:36<amacater>For me, I normally move a file to OLDfilename or filename.daymonthyear so that it isn't picked up again by something expecting just filename
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17:41<dboles>but they were getting errors for the other sources, not that whonix one
17:42<dboles>why would that happen?
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17:44<nChomsky>I moved the "sources.list.d" folder containing the "Whonix.list" file out of the /etc/apt
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17:44<nChomsky>Used the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" command again.
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17:45<nChomsky>This is what I got: https://paste.debian.net/910044/
17:46<nChomsky>At least deb Whonix now does not fail as well to fetch XD
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17:47<nChomsky>It doesn't even show up.
17:47<pi>hello!
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17:47<missmbob>nChomsky: pastebin your sources.list
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17:49<nChomsky>There ya go: https://paste.debian.net/910045/
17:50<nChomsky>@pi hello beautiful!
17:51<missmbob>nChomsky: yeah that failed here to but adding / after /debian made it work. probably some httpredir/mirror issue
17:51<missmbob>too*
17:51<nChomsky>Just that? Let me see.
17:53<missmbob>deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main
17:53<missmbob>damn
17:53<missmbob>!httpredir issues
17:53<dpkg>The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code) or use the <deb.debian.org> CDN. Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>.
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17:54<amacater>OK n
17:55<amacater>chomsky - copy back your previous sources.list - uncomment the # , comment out the httpredir and try again? You can probably leave the cdrom commented out
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17:56<Heston>missmbob, just wondering. Have you been able to land yourself some work but offering your support on irc?
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17:58<nChomsky>Ok @amacater, i've defaulted back to this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e1a14b48/
17:58<missmbob>Heston: i'm always looking for more work but i have gotten consulting gigs from people who just saw me on irc
17:59<nChomsky>Now I'm back to this error message when I try apt-get: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/edacd237/
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18:00<dboles>I probably missed it. Can you ping that host?
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18:00<dboles>and have you tried using one of the other mirrors?
18:00<Heston>missmbob, hmm do you mind if I pm you
18:00<nChomsky>Maybe switching the country of reference? Is Uruguai any good? XD
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18:01<dboles>Does ftp.br.debian.org respond to a normal ping?
18:01<nChomsky>I'll go for "us" then.
18:01<dboles>We need to figure out whether you're having overall DNS issues or just with that one host
18:01<nChomsky>How do I ping
18:01<nChomsky>?
18:01<dboles>just type
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18:01<dboles>ping the.host.com
18:02<dboles>if that fails, then it's not just aptitude that has a problem
18:02<amacater>If you go back in your history - I gave you the IP address of the ftp.br mirror
18:02<dboles>and if other mirrors and sites (web browser) still work, then it's just that host that is unreachable for you. but it's pingable for me here
18:03<nChomsky>thoreau@user:~$ ping ftp.br.debian.org
18:03<amacater>ping 200.236.31.3
18:03<nChomsky>ping: unknown host ftp.br.debian.org
18:03<dboles>and try the same with that ip address, and another mirror e.g. US
18:04<amacater>What does ip a report? - status of interfaces
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18:05<nChomsky>Ok, a list is appearing in my terminal, non-stop
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18:05<dboles>Ctrl+C to stop
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18:05<dboles>for which? the ip or the US mirror?
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18:06<nChomsky>64 bytes from 200.236.31.3 icmp_seq=81 ttl=55 time= 19.8 ms
18:06<nChomsky>That's the US mirror?
18:06<amacater>OK - so you have connectivity to ftp.br mirror
18:07<nChomsky>Oh, the Brazilian, even better.
18:08<dboles>Does web browsing work normally for all sites?
18:08<nChomsky>It does.
18:08<nChomsky>Hm...
18:10<nChomsky>Maybe its apt-get that's broken?
18:10<amacater>OK, break it down: use the command sudo su - to become root
18:11<amacater>As root, your prompt should change to a #
18:11<amacater>as root do apt-get update
18:11<amacater>Tell us what the resut is
18:11<dboles>nChomsky: it is clearly not just apt-get, because a ping cannot reach that host by name either
18:12<amacater>Then check how your name resolution is set up, and also what interfaces are up, using the ip a command
18:13<nChomsky>Ok, here's the result from apt-get update as root: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d89c15d2/
18:14<nChomsky>"Then check how your name resolution is set up, and also what interfaces are up, using the ip a command" XD
18:14<nChomsky>I don't even know how to start... Sorry :*(
18:15<dboles>type this in the terminal
18:15<dboles>ip a
18:15<amacater>OK - so as root it works: you could type apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
18:15<amacater>Check your /etc/sudoers file Use visudo to edit it if necessary
18:16<amacater>nChomsky: /etc/soudoers controls which users are allowed to become root
18:17<dboles>Not that it explains why you can't reach that host as a normal user
18:17<nChomsky>Result from "ip a" : https://paste.debian.net/hidden/66fc9f2b/
18:18<dboles>Is that run as root or yourself, and either way, can you run it again as the other user?
18:18<nChomsky>It's as root, I'll log back as user...
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18:19<amacater>Possibly: shut down your whonix virtual machine - which gets rid off all the virbr and whatever interfaces - and try again.
18:20<nChomsky>As user: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/91650855/
18:20<amacater>The package debian-handbook is quite useful: it's a full handbook dealing with all sorts of Debian administration issues
18:20<nChomsky>Ok, Whonix is on right now.
18:20<nChomsky>I'll try with it turned off
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18:22<amacater>Good luck all - it's past 23:00 - off to bed here
18:22<nChomsky>Thank you amacater!
18:22<aida>hola
18:22<amacater>!es
18:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
18:23<nChomsky>Amacater has built a wall XD
18:24<amacater>No, no es nada mas que lo normal - English preferred here.
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18:24<amacater>Aunque entiendo castellano y portugues tambien, la lengua preferida es ingles por aqui
18:25<nChomsky>I'm just kidding. I'm Brazilian, after all. I would also be stopped by the waal. XD
18:25<amacater>Muito obrigado, nChomksy boa noite
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18:26<nChomsky>Nossa, tô impressionado! XD
18:26<nChomsky>Boa noite. ;)
18:27<nChomsky>Well, continuing, with Whonix turned of I didn't get a different result: https://paste.debian.net/910057/
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18:32<vanii>holas
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18:33<vanii>todo bien?
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18:33<nChomsky>Si, pero no hablo espanõl...
18:33<somiaj>!es
18:33<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
18:33<nChomsky>Talvez portunhol.
18:35<nChomsky>People, is there a forum for debian? Where I can post this problem that I'm having?
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18:36<somiaj>nChomsky: there are various linux help forms, though I can't think of a debian specific one. There is here and there is the mailing lists.
18:36<somiaj>I guess there is forums.debian.net
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18:38<nChomsky>Thanks Somiaj I'll look into it. ;)
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19:42<hanasaki1>building a custom kernel with make-kpkg / when I install it on a box where it was not built (including the -source package) there are complaints that the src directory cannot be found. NOTE: I built the directory in my homedir with fakeroot / what needs to be done to built it and get the src installed in the right place when linux-source is installed on another box?
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19:47<somiaj>hanasaki1: unsure why make-kpkg is doing that, but the prefered way for a debian package these days is use make debpkg
19:48<hanasaki1>somiaj: searched. do not find any docs for building a kernel and its src .deb and image.deb that way. ... have a URL?
19:49<somiaj>hanasaki1: why do you need the source .deb as well?
19:49<somiaj>hanasaki1: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.kernel-compilation.html
19:50<hanasaki1>somiaj: have some custom kernel mods to build after using am-a
19:50<hanasaki1>am-a
19:51<somiaj>then you want the linux-headers package that gets built
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19:53<hanasaki1>make: *** No rule to make target 'kernelversion'. Stop.
19:53<hanasaki1>make: *** No rule to make target 'deb-pkg'. Stop.
19:53<hanasaki1>this is the source from kernel.org ntothe debian src
19:54<somiaj>the upstream source now includes the deb-pkg make target, what kernel version is this?
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20:07<Firedeath>hello
20:07<Firedeath>anybody here
20:07<Firedeath>?
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20:10<Firedeath>does anybody like Trump
20:10<Firedeath>?
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20:11<dvs>well, that answers that
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20:17<somiaj>well more just off-topic and I didn't see any good conversation come from that one way or another
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20:46<awal1>A basic question: if usually # is for comment out/ignore stuff why so # in #!/bin... for specify a shell have no that role?
20:47<jrtc27>because otherwise /bin/sh would try to run the first line of code, which isn't code
20:47<jrtc27>when told to execute a file, the kernel handled those "shebangs"
20:49*dvs thought it was Ricky Martin that handled that.
20:49*missmbob slaps dvs
20:49<dvs>hehe
20:51<awal1>jrtc27, i understand a bit, just a bit. so #!/bin/bash will prevent bash from interpreting that first line as code, ok. so # still means there ignore, right?
20:52<jrtc27>to bahs
20:52<jrtc27>*bash
20:52<jrtc27>but not to the kernel
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20:54<somiaj>awal1: lookup 'shebang'
20:54<awal1>ok, so the kernel is involved here, it's the one who specify bash instead of other shell. how so exactly?
20:54<awal1>somiaj, shebang?
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20:54<somiaj>awal1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)
20:55<awal1>ok
20:55<somiaj>awal1: the first line of text files, shells use that to determin what inturpriter to use on the text file. This way you can execute python scripts, or perl scripts, etc directly with chmod +x bit on them.
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20:57<awal1>somiaj, jrtc27, thanks; now I have an idea from where to get/understand all that better
20:57<somiaj>so the combination #! is not a regular comment
20:58<jrtc27>somiaj: yes, it is, to bash
20:59<jrtc27>none of the shells care at all about #!, they just treat it identically to any other comment
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20:59<somiaj>so when a shell runs a +x text file, what is the first inturpriter it hit, I thought it was the shell, that then passes the script to the correct inturpiter.
20:59<jrtc27>what happens, when I execute ./my-script, is the kernel is told exec("./my-script")
21:00<jrtc27>kernel starts reading my-script to work out what to do with it
21:00<jrtc27>it sees the first two bytes are #!
21:00<jrtc27>so the kernel knows that it *actually* needs to exec("/bin/bash", "./my-script")
21:00<somiaj>ahh I see, yea I knew it was a comment so if you did something like 'bash script' it gets ignored, but I thought when the shell was executing the script, it used that to pass it to the correct intrupriter. Thanks for clarifying
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21:01<jrtc27>then it looks at /bin/bash, sees it starts with the magic few bytes that indicate an ELF file, so it knows to load it and run it as a binary
21:01<jrtc27>somiaj: that's not a completely unreasonable thought, but it would be a pain to implement that in every. application. that. wants. to. execute. something
21:02<somiaj>jrtc27: yea I'm just not that familar with the exact system calls when a shell tries to run an executable.
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21:02<somiaj>jrtc27: so in my mind I thought of it as a special comment, but it does make sense this is more kernel level...
21:03<jrtc27>google binfmt_misc if you're interested; allows you to tell the kernel to run custom interpreters for certain file types
21:04<somiaj>so probably better to say it is a special comment that means something to the kernel.
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