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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-29

---Logopened Sun Jan 29 00:00:22 2017
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00:01-!-kingsley is "Kingsley G. Morse Jr." on #debian.ch #blug #debian
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00:20-!-melmothX is "Marco" on #debian-perl #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian
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00:25-!-kingsley is "Kingsley G. Morse Jr." on #debian.ch #blug #debian
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04:49<RAM>hi everyone
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04:52<pse>anyone know how to debug graphical glitches in wayland? My screen sometimes blink (goes black) and for a split second seems to render a buffer at some odd offset etc
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06:41<stephen>greetings everyone. seems like the latest testing 64-bit updates have affected Vim's behavior. My settings are the same for ages now and I can't undo or :undolist changes on any file. I have backups for each file of course and their undo binaries respectively.
06:42<stephen>I'm under debian testing 64-bit using Vim version 8.0.0197-1
06:43<petn-randall>hi stephen, testing is supported in #debian-next. See you there!
06:43<stephen>alright.
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06:59<brunoramos>Hello, I'm trying to setup some VMs locally, and preferably set up DNS so that I can access all the VMs locally by name. What would be a god save domain name to use to make sure I'm always addressing my machines locally and not going to the internet?
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07:00<brunoramos>I understand DNS/DHCP, but as TLDs can be almost anything, this is bothering me...
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07:00<brunoramos>for example .dev is resolved externally, which mean I could be accessing an external machine without wanting to
07:01<stephen>brunoramos: VirtualBox has simpler method to accomplish such thing
07:01<brunoramos>I saw that .local is "guaranteed" to not be registered/used in the internet, is that a safe choice?
07:01<stephen>that is, to give each VM its own IP address
07:02<brunoramos>I'm using libvirt with QEMU/KVM with multiple servers... so I was trying to set things up so that the guest machine announces it's name in the DHCP request and that I then can address that name from the host
07:03<brunoramos>the only thing that bothers me is that I was setting a name name-dev and by mistake I entered name.dev when trying to ssh to it and it resolved to an external domain...
07:04<brunoramos>was thinking about how to setup a "safer" configuration...
07:04<stephen>ah I have no idea how KVM works mate, sorry :/
07:04<brunoramos>no problem, thanks for trying :)
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07:05<brunoramos>to help me, I mean
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07:06<stephen>pleasure is all mine mate
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07:29<olspookishmagus>*cricket* https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/gmail/o6HDTZrsd1U/yIDVbvhUBQAJ
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08:24<brunoramos>Is there a way to preseed an installation without either root or user passwords? I'm already installing a public key in .ssh/authorized_keys and i would like to completely disable the password authentication.
08:26<brunoramos>Is doing a passwd -d in a late-command a good approach to achieve that?
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09:57<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
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09:58<cousin_luigi>How difficult is to run a RO root with systemd? Would it be feasible to keep logs in ram disk with aufs or another similar fs and sync them back periodically or on reboot?
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10:06<annadane>is there a difference in contents between debian 64 bit CD's and DVD's? because the file sizes are different
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10:06<towo`>annadane, kidding?
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10:07<annadane>no
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10:07<towo`>annadane, yoiu know what is a cd and a dvd?
10:07<annadane>so the DVD Is just a fuller installation?
10:08<annadane>i found what i was looking for, anyway
10:09<bham>Anyone know how to get wheezy 7.11.0 dvd images for the mips arch?
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10:13<nicky>test
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10:15<jrtc27>bham: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/7.11.0/mips/iso-dvd/
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10:16<noncode>hi
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10:18<jrtc27>bham: please don't PM me
10:18<bham>sorry
10:19<jrtc27>that should have pretty much any package you would want to install
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10:19<jrtc27>and of course once you've installed the base system you can install from the archive over the internet
10:19<jrtc27>there's also iso-cd if you want smaller disk images
10:20<bham>yeah thinking of putting a cache on my lan
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10:27<Tom>i am looking for assistance in getting a new install of jessie on (lvm on luks) to boot. if this is not the approriate way to ask, please let me know.
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10:32<somiaj>Why isn't it booting? How did you install it? Is /boot encyprted?
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10:33<somiaj>Tom: ^^ This is an appropriate place for jessie questions, I am not too familar with encryption
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10:33<Tom>boot is not encrypted. it complains n boot that the disk [lv] is not found
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10:34<Tom>the debian installer does not seem to handle encryption or lvm well, and i've gotten this far by configuring grub manually
10:35<somiaj>hmm sounds like either your initramfs doesn't contain info about your lvm or lukes to unlock it? Does it ask for a password during boot?
10:35<Tom>no
10:35<Tom>it does not find the volume, hence no request for password
10:35<somiaj>The installer should setup lukes and lvm just fine from my understanding (if you do the basic configuration)
10:35<Tom>it sets it up fine. it does not configure grub appropriately.
10:36<somiaj>well in this case I may not be able to be of much help, but you may need a resuce medium and manually mount the lvm/lukes
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10:36<somiaj>it should set up grub as well, unless of course you have an encrypted /boot, which grub does support but not by default in debian.
10:36<Tom>i have a live cd. i have never used lvm before and dont know how to mount that. luks i can do.
10:36<somiaj>did you install from a live cd or from a debian installer?
10:36<Tom>my /boot is not encrypted.
10:37<Tom>live cd
10:37<Tom>graphical installer
10:37<somiaj>did you boot into the installer, or install from inside the live enviorment?
10:37<Tom>booted into installer
10:37<somiaj>hmm, well unsure if it is worth your time, but the live installer doesn't always work as well as the offical installers on either the netinstall or cd/dvd1
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10:38<somiaj>don't know if it is worth trying to install using the offical installer, the live installer seems to have issues with grub, though less so if you use the isntaller and not install from inside the live enviroment.
10:38<Tom>ok. ive never used those before. it sounds easier than solving the problem manually.
10:38<somiaj>I don't know enough to help you manually solve it, as I use neither lvm or lukes
10:38<somiaj>do you have wifi you need non-free firmware for your network?
10:38<Tom>yes
10:38<somiaj>!firmware images
10:38<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
10:39<somiaj>that netinstall is the offical netinstall pluss unoffical firmware for allowing netinstall with wifi
10:39<Tom>that's the directory where i got the live cd. do i just go there in a browser and click netinstall?
10:39<noncode>so, did you try to install with lukes and wont boot now, that's it?
10:40<Tom>luks and lvm
10:40<Tom>i think lvm is the problem
10:40<somiaj>Tom: grab either the amd64 or i386 which suites your needs
10:40<Tom>ok, thank you
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10:40<somiaj>Tom: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso
10:40<noncode>in jessie?
10:40<somiaj>Tom: unsure if this will fix your problem, but I do know the live images seem to have trouble installing grub.
10:40<noncode>try testing
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10:41<Tom>ive never sought help on irc before, or ever used it for that matter. you're very kind to help me.
10:41<Tom>i appreciate it
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10:41<noncode>you welcome
10:42<noncode>try installing testing
10:42<noncode>are you doing this on a server of personal desktop?
10:42<noncode>or
10:43<somiaj>I would stick with stable, there are others who have luks+lvm working just fine in jessie. Testing dosen't have security support, but it is almost frozen and works okay unless you run into some of the few reamining rc-bugs
10:43<Heston>well I actually found luks+lvm and swap usuage caused hard lockups on jessie
10:44<Tom>its a personal laptop. i'll stick with stable.
10:45<noncode>last
10:45<noncode>hahaha
10:46<noncode>wrong term
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10:56<Proximoov>Hi everyone :). I'm here because I have a question about Dolphin Emulator and Debian Jessie. Dolphin Emulator is updated very often, so Jessie's users have to build it from source... So I followed the instructions but I have a problem : GCC 5.0 is required but Jessie only have 4.9.2... Do I have to switch to testing or can I do the thing called "pinning" ? (I'm still a noob :))
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10:57<annadane>this is not an answer, only speculation, but i feel looking in backports might prove fruitful
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10:57<annadane>somebody more knowledgeable can answer though
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10:58<Proximoov>Thanks annadane :)
10:58<annadane>to clarify i mean for GCC
10:59<annadane>the individual website pages for debian packages have a list of what versions of debian they're a part of
10:59<somiaj>Proximoov: you do not want to install testing packages on stable. You could upgrade to stretch, but it isn't ready to be released yet (though runs okay with out security support)
10:59<annadane>and yeah, also that
10:59<somiaj>,v dolphin-emu
10:59<judd>Package: dolphin-emu on amd64 -- sid: 5.0+dfsg-1+b1; stretch: 5.0+dfsg-1+b1
11:00<somiaj>,v gcc
11:00<judd>Package: gcc on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; stretch: 4:6.2.1-1; sid: 4:6.3.0-1; experimental: 4:7-20161116-2
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11:00<somiaj>Proximoov: I also don't see gcc backported, it maybe that you need to be running stretch. It is almost frozen and runs okay, but no security support and there are a few rc bugs floating around
11:01<somiaj>by few I mean hundereds, but debian has tens of thousands of packages
11:01<annadane>just to elaborate, if you search for gcc you get a webpage like this https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=gcc
11:01<annadane>"wheezy (oldstable)" "jessie (stable", blah blah blah
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11:04<annadane>also to elaborate, "stretch" is the same as testing (for debian 9) and sid will always be unstable regardless of version
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11:06<Proximoov>Okay, I think I'll try stretch and be careful about it. Thanks for your answers :-)
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11:08<annadane>Proximoov: you can always test things like that with virtualization, like with virtualbox
11:08<annadane>that way if it breaks something it doesn't harm your actual system
11:10<somiaj>Proximoov: stretch runs fairly good, biggest downside right now is no timely security support, but in most cases it should work jsut fine.
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11:14<annadane>there's a number of people who say that testing and even unstable work more reliably than commercial OS's so the likelihood of exploding your computer isn't as high as you'd think
11:15<annadane>but yeah generally not advised to mix stable/testing/unstable
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11:33<aaron2>anyone know much about grub2win command line interface?
11:33<aaron2>I managed to lock myself out of both my windows and debian install
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11:34<aaron2>hello
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11:36<Arcade>hi aaron2 I don't know much about grub2win but i am sure someone might in a bit if you stick around
11:37<vicky_>plz help me
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11:37<annadane>!ask
11:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:54<amacater>If you've locked out of both - Either - boot into Windows rescue mode and then run repair my MBR OR use a Debian.iso image and boot to rescue mode and work through that.
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12:03<aaron2>I'm currently on the grub2 cli, I have a debian iso on my filesystem, I'm trying to boot from that
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12:05<GPenguin>aaron2: from within grub? an iso on a filesystem?
12:06<GPenguin>thats cool. i want to see that
12:06<aaron2>If it sounds like I know what I'm doing, I'd like to clarify that I don't
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12:09<aaron2>I know I have to set a kernel and initrd from grub before booting, is there anything else I need?
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12:14<aaron2>I get a bunch of graphical errors when I boot with that
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12:54<gauravjuvekar_>Hi; Probably a stupid question but how do you get control.debian.org to retitle a bug to a long name?
12:54<gauravjuvekar_>Cause it's breaking it onto 2 lines and only taking the first few words.
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12:57<petn-randall>gauravjuvekar_: Are you controlling it by e-mail? It sounds like your mail client is word wrapping the content.
12:57<dtw>gauravjuvekar_, I don't know but how about "bts retitle <bug> <title>"?
12:58<dtw>"bts" tool is in devscripts package.
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13:05<gauravjuvekar_>petn-randall: That seems most likely. Is there a way to escape a newline in the mail syntax?
13:05<gauravjuvekar_>dtw: Okay, I'll try that. (need to setup postfix first :( )
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13:24<Pret0riab>hello all
13:24<Pret0riab>hopefully a quick simple question
13:24<Pret0riab>how can i run a command to hlpe me setup the mirrors - my system wasnt network connected on install
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13:25<mtn>!sources
13:25<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
13:25<Pret0riab>thank
13:25<Pret0riab>you
13:25<jrtc27>isn't there deb.debian.org/debian-security these days?
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13:27<petn-randall>jrtc27: security.debian.org is handled specially because the usual mirrors can take a day or so to sync – too slow for a critical security fix to propagate.
13:27<Pret0riab>so there isnt a command that will help me choose the network mirror as in setup ?
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13:29<jrtc27>no, choose-mirror is only intended for use by the debian installer
13:29<jrtc27>though there's netselect-apt which will find the fastest mirror for you
13:30<Pret0riab>i need to edit the sources.list to be able to install that though I think but yes I think thats what i am looking for jrt27 thankyou
13:30<Pret0riab>@jrt27
13:31<jrtc27>yw
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15:10<henry>hello dear friends of the sun
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15:12<henry>i buyed a windows-netbook and the traider sayed that i can install linux on it - but i cant without paying very much time cuz its windows-optimized :(
15:12<henry>lenovo miix 310, has anyone experiences with that?
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15:13<henry>does anyone hear me?
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15:13<somiaj>One way to figure it out is try, in debian (and linux) some of the main things to look at are gpu and network card.
15:14<somiaj>What gpu and network cards (wifi) does it have? Chipset is most important.
15:14<henry>ah, i have an intel atom processor and more details i dont know xD its a lenovo miix 310
15:14<henry>yes, with double-i
15:15<somiaj>paticlar hardware is a lot easier to look up for supprt, but look that laptop up in google, see if anyone has any sucess/failure stories
15:15<henry>when i am in the bios menu, he doesnt show an option to boot from another device
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15:16<henry>okay :)
15:16<somiaj>it might just use efi which boots from efi partitions, not devices, and you may need an efi boot image to do that
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15:17<henry>maybe he require a dvd-device to boot from, i will try that and then lokk in the bios
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15:20<somiaj>what image are you trying to boot form with usb?
15:20<amacater>It looks very similar to the Asus Transformer intel chipset - the multiarch i386-amd64 media may well work 32 bit EFI bios 64 bit processor
15:20<somiaj>the live images do not support efi.
15:20<amacater>Don't use the live image - try and see whether the netinst will at least boot then stop at that point
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15:21<amacater>live image install is subtly different from standard debian installer
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16:19<ibrahemgebril>9 11 attacks was the start .Did USA do it itself or it just let it happen?
16:19<ibrahemgebril>Did USA administration murder 3000 american citizen in 9 11 attacks to justify starting a war against iraq and killing 2 million Iraqi?
16:19<ibrahemgebril> If al-qaeda did it , why go to kill 2 million Iraqi?
16:19<ibrahemgebril>http://creatvchaos.blogspot.com.eg/ https://creatvchaos.wordpress.com/
16:19<ibrahemgebril>Some of the benefits American say they achieved after 9 11 attacks include:
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18:36<demonicfirefly>hello
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18:37<jcrowgey>hello folks, anyone here familiar with the torbrowser-launcher package? i'm getting a signature verification failure each time I try to use it
18:37<demonicfirefly>no
18:37<jcrowgey>I tend to think that I'm not experiencing a mitm attack that something else is going on.
18:37<jcrowgey>probably just missing the relevant pubkey or something like that
18:38<demonicfirefly>i am new
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18:59<Eryn_1983_FL>ok thanks peeps i got it straightened out now
18:59<Nyr>for the latest TBB release they changed signing subkey
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19:30<lfam>I noticed that tcpdump was updated to the "New upstream security release" 4.9.0, but I can't figure out where this upstream release is distributed. It doesn't seem to be on tcpdump.org: <http://www.tcpdump.org/#latest-release>
19:30<lfam>Does anyone know where it came from?
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19:31<lfam>This release is also not tagged in the tcpdump Git repository
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20:10<somiaj>lfam: maybe the webpage hasn't been updated, and the release happened because of the security issue.
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20:11<lfam>somiaj: I figured they hadn't updated their web page yet, but I can't figure out where the new source code came from.
20:11<somiaj>yea I don't see it on git either, maybe check the public archive of the tcpdump-workers mailing list
20:11<lfam>Nothing about it there...
20:12<tomcres>must be…aliens!
20:12<somiaj>hmm yea I'm not seeing anything there either
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20:17<somiaj>lfam: maybe it is a fork somewhere that needs to be merged
20:17<somiaj>lfam: but I agree that it is strange it isn't in their git repo as a 'release'
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20:20<somiaj>also unsure where you would report a bug about that too.
20:21<lfam>I've asked the Debian maintainer directly, and I've also asked publicly on oss-security
20:22<lfam>I assume that this is an unevenly coordinated release
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20:51<Guest1926>can someone please help me get my wifi working?
20:51<Guest1926>i'm on a lenovo yoga 2 13
20:52<Guest1926>just installed fresh debian
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20:57<Guest1926>i neeed to install firmware-realtek, how do i do that?
20:57<tomcres>,v firmware-realtek
20:57<judd>Package: firmware-realtek on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; stretch/non-free: 20160824-1; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-2~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20161130-2; stretch/non-free: 20161130-2
20:57<tomcres>as root, type: apt install firmware-realtek
20:58<tomcres>you may need to add non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list first, if you haven't already
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21:38<benny_>i'm having a terribly hard time getting my wifi working i have no clue what to do
21:39<benny_>am i just stuck without wifi??
21:39<benny_>i don't get why it works on ubuntu but not on debian...
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21:40<benny_>on lenovo yoga 2 13
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22:10<PaulSommer>Hi Guys. I'm conpletely new to IRC. Can I ask questions about problems with my sound system here? I'm using a freshly installes debisn stretch with an Intel Skylake I3.
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22:12<PaulSommer>thx
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22:44<ryouma>does mopidy work with spotify? i.e. is this a feature that works?
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