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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-01-30

---Logopened Mon Jan 30 00:00:23 2017
00:01-!-mjukk [~Admin@c-2c1be555.018-229-6f72651.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #debian
00:01-!-mjukk is "purple" on #debian
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00:04-!-konstantin is "Konstantin" on #debian #smuxi
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00:19-!-octal is "Octavio Alvarez" on #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-es #debian-gnome #debian-ipv6 #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mx #debian-next @#pinpoint #packaging
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00:37-!-mjukk is "purple" on #debian
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00:41-!-f6k is "f6k" on #debian
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00:41-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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00:43-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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01:04-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:18-!-marijnfs is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
01:21-!-kingsley [~kingsley@174-21-243-129.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #debian
01:21-!-kingsley is "Kingsley G. Morse Jr." on #debian.ch #blug #debian
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01:25-!-aux03 is "aux03" on #debian
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01:28-!-mathieu is "Blum Mathieu" on #debian-fr #debian-kde #debian
01:28-!-cpaelzer [~paelzer@186-056-210-188.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined #debian
01:28-!-cpaelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #debian #debian-qemu
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01:33-!-aux03_ is "aux03" on #debian
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01:48-!-mjukk is "purple" on #debian
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01:48-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
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01:54-!-mladen is "mladen" on #debian
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01:56-!-amiconn is "Jens" on #debian #debian-next
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02:16-!-creep is "realname" on #debian
02:16<creep>Hi
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02:17-!-sqirrrl is "Mirko Ahnert" on #debian
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02:21-!-amacater is "Andrew M.A. Cater" on #debian-hams #debian-arm #debian-cd #debian-efi #debian
02:23<annadane>hi, creep
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02:26-!-chele is "chele" on #debian-next #debian
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02:27-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on #debian-outreach @#debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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02:40-!-mattcen is "Matthew Cengia" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mirrors #debian #debian-mentors #debian-live #debian-ftp #debian-boot #debian-au
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02:49-!-forrest is "Forrest Houghton" on #debian
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02:49-!-phunatique is "phunatique" on #debian
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02:56-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian-kde #debian
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03:00-!-^Q-Master^ is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian #debian-next
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03:07-!-skainz_ is "Simon Kainz" on #debian
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03:07-!-grrrrrr is "http://barbanegra.info/" on #debian
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03:08-!-octal is "Octavio Alvarez" on #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-es #debian-gnome #debian-ipv6 #debian-mentors #debian-mentors-es #debian-mx #debian-next @#pinpoint #packaging
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03:09-!-skainz__ is "Simon Kainz" on #debian
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03:26-!-viccuad is "Víctor Cuadrado Juan" on #kernelnewbies
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03:33-!-Raineer is "Raineer" on #debian-perl #debian-owncloud
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03:35-!-narcan is "Denis Briand" on #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian
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03:36-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian-ftp #debian
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03:46-!-jmux is "Jan-Marek Glogowski" on #debian
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03:49-!-srtu is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
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03:56-!-piper is "piper" on #debian-desktop #debian-mentors #debian-derivatives #debian-systemd #debian-kde #debian-next #debian #siduction-de #siduction-dev #siduction
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04:01-!-melmothX_ is "Marco" on #debian-perl #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian
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04:02-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #ubuntu-expats #tor-project #linode #alioth #debian #debian-mozilla #debian-offtopic #debian-printing #OpenBSD #oftc #debconf16-menzies-9 #debconf16-menzies-12 #debconf16-menzies-10 #debconf
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04:03-!-lpalgarvio is "Luís Pedro Algarvio" on #debian
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04:27-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa
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06:42<ivan_>I've noticed that the Release file of jessie distribution are signed by both the automatic wheezy and jessie plus the stable jessie key. Why jessie is signed by the wheezy key?
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07:32<rovanion>I'm having this issue where apt-get fails to run due to "while processing `./usr/src/linu ... No space left on device". But when I run df -h -P /usr/src | tail -1 I get returned to me that the device has 6.5G left on it.
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07:34<pdo_fn14>petn-randall, Well, it's worked with just seeking with "presistence" logging in systemd doc in /usr/share/doc/ dir.
07:34<pdo_fn14>But I still confused how to clean archived log journal with "journalctl --vaccum-size" option
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07:35*petn-randall doesn't remember saying anything.
07:35<jm_>rovanion: where does './usr/src' come from?
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07:36<rovanion>jm_: I may be answering the wrong question, but: It's what apt-get said in it's error message, i truncated it around ... to not bore you with a whole linux kernel version.
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07:37<jm_>rovanion: maybe put the whole thing on the paste site -- /msg dpkg paste
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07:43<peter1138>./usr/src is a clue. may be using a temporary directory first.
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07:44<rovanion>jm_: Here's a paste http://paste.debian.net/911556/
07:45<jm_>rovanion: have you checked what df -i /usr/src shows?
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07:46<rovanion>peter1138: Though none of my devices are full according to df -h. The highest usage percentage is on /home with 87% and 20G free.
07:47<duclicsic>what about inodes?
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07:47<peter1138>I had a device that ran out of inodes once. Don't know if it was the same message.
07:47<rovanion>jm_: /dev/sdd3 1941504 1936622 4882 100% /
07:47<rovanion>BRB
07:47<duclicsic>df -i
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07:47<peter1138>100%
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07:48<peter1138>yers
07:48<jm_>there you go
07:48<duclicsic>was too slow. now to locate the gazillions of tiny files responsible :)
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07:54<stephen>rovanion: that's an interesting issue. out of pure curiosity, how much size is your /tmp ?
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08:07<prixtis>hi
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08:09<rovanion>stephen: It's not separate from /.
08:10*pdo_fn14 to pern-randall, just remembering about systemd journald.conf setting which won't work a few days ago.
08:10<rovanion>Wat? Can I run out of inodes? Is that an arbitrary limit set somewhere?
08:10*pdo_fn14 ^to petn-randall
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08:10<stephen>rovanion: I see
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08:11<Brigo_>rovanion, yes
08:11<Ennea>hi everyone. whenever i turn on my bluetooth headphones, i have to open the sound settings and change my primary output device to them, and also re-adjust the volume again. is there any way i can automate this?
08:11<prixtis>I am running 7.11 with stock kernel on a C2D with a P45 chipset. I am going to upgrade to a i7 Kaby Lake. Do I have to upgrade my kernel prior to the hardware upgrade?
08:13<pdo_fn14>prixtis, not only kernel, but your debian too AFAIK.
08:14<prixtis>but that also means that you are not 100% sure
08:14<prixtis>I just don't want to use sysmtemd
08:15<prixtis>*systemd :)
08:15<Brigo_>prixtis, you don't have to, Jessie supports systemV.
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08:17<prixtis>Brigo without breaking anything else?
08:18<Brigo>prixtis, fully supported, yes.
08:18<prixtis>so can I do a dist-upgrade without systemd getting installed? and how?
08:19<Brigo>prixtis, not sure about that, but you can uninstall it.
08:19<prixtis>thanks :)
08:19<Brigo>prixtis, http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
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08:19<prixtis>thats why i love debian :)
08:20<prixtis>thanks brigo
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08:20<Brigo>prixtis, np, :)
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08:34<pdo_fn14>I just removed aptitude from my system, is't recommended?.
08:34<prixtis>highly
08:34<rovanion>Annoying that you have to remake the fs to change the inode count :/. I understand why it is but still.
08:34<rovanion>So the debian community no longer favours aptitude over the apt-* programs?
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08:35<grawity>while at it, remake it to a fs which doesn't have a fixed inode limit in the first place
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08:36<pdo_fn14>rovanion, Just my flavor.
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08:38<rovanion>grawity: Such as?
08:39<prixtis>which kernel ships with jessie? will it boot on a z70 chipset?
08:39<prixtis>z270
08:39<prixtis>(should i be asking these questions on another #?)
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08:46<Anarka>if its a recent chipset you *maybe* need to use backports kernel
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08:47<prixtis>i am upgrading to z270 and kaby lake. I want to use the ssd i am using now without reinstalling
08:48<petn-randall>rovanion: The ratio is constant. You can increase the filesystem size, and the inode count will grow, too.
08:48<grawity>rovanion: dunno, xfs maybe?
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09:19<scrdcow>spam around! get up get up and get down!
09:20<grawity>get left get right get left get right b a
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09:30<rovanion>Proc is its own virtual fs right?
09:30<grawity>it's procfs, yes
09:30<grawity>see `findmnt`
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09:39<rovanion>Oh, i like that command. Thank you grawity!
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09:41<grawity>you'll also like lslbk
09:41<grawity>lsblk*
09:41<annadane>would anyone care to hazard a guess as to how i can fix my usb stick so that every option other than automated graphical install doesn't do nothing?
09:42<annadane>it seems to restart my computer and just put it back to the install menu
09:42<annadane>virtualization works fine so i doubt it's my computer
09:43<annadane>that's maybe an off topic question for this chat though
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09:45<annadane>i was thinking of making it a different format, i didn't actually check what format it was under when this was happening
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09:54<annadane>the USB is 16 GB so i doubt it's a space issue
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10:05<blast007>annadane: you're trying to install from USB? If so, how are you preparing the USB stick?
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10:06<annadane>it was previously written as an ISO
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10:06<annadane>and by "previously" i mean that's the last method i tried at the time
10:06<annadane>right now there's nothing written to it
10:06<goonieb>hello, migrated to stretch, everything id fine but my usb keyboards are not accessible for 2 minutes under gdm, why?
10:07<blast007>"it seems to restart my computer and just put it back to the install menu" are you removing the install media after you are done with the install?
10:07<annadane>yeah, i am; this was at the very beginning of the install process, selecting anything but automated graphical install wouldn't let me continue with the process
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10:08<annadane>it's entirely possible that the way i wrote the iso to disk was wrong
10:09<annadane>(which was, using a 3rd party program to do so)
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10:09<goonieb>any idea about this?
10:10<Anarka>goonieb: i have that problem sometimes with a corsair keyboard, but never looked into solutions besides the one that apparently corsair sucks in linux
10:11<blast007>goonieb: debian testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
10:11<annadane>but yeah anyway let me fool around with it for a while, it seems like an exceedingly uncommon problem which most probably had to do with the method of writing
10:11<goonieb>thanks blast
10:11<blast007>annadane: how, specifically, are you writing the USB stick?
10:12<annadane>i don't remember the program i used to do it, this was a while ago
10:12<annadane>but it was just "burn iso to usb"
10:12<blast007>if you're using unetbootin or similar, don't
10:13<blast007>annadane: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid
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10:14<annadane>thanks
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10:20<sd7gs6>am I right thinking that as long as apt upgrade says 0 not upgraded, full-upgrade is never needed to be used?
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10:26<rovanion>Continuing on with the inode journey. Turns out the leak is in /usr with 1.6M inodes. More news at five.
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10:29<rovanion>And there we find the answer in /usr/src with 1.5M inodes. Seems like I have the kernel headers for the last 50 kernels installed.
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10:33<annadane>whoever just helped me with that, thanks, everything works now (i rebooted the computer and i can't remember what your name was)
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11:54<btaylor>when i get “dpkg returned -1” is there a better place for seeing exactly why it failed than /var/log/dpkg.log? cause that isn’t showing me anything in particular
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12:28<Guest1972>Hello everyone!
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12:34<grummund>Is xfce the only window manager (in debian) that allows to disable "Raise on focus" for windows?
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12:35<grummund>i.e. you can have overlapped terminal windows and be typing in the one underneath
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12:43<mtn>grummund: I am pretty sure kde has the same feature. perhaps there are others
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12:47<grummund>cinnamon has the option Preferences -> Windows -> "Automatically raise focused windows" (unticked) but clicking on a window still raises it.
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12:48<church>ok
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13:01<user01>hi i had a question about managing ssh identities in Debian -- so every time I turn off and on my laptop i have to run ssh-add at the commandline to add my indentities . . . is that how it is intended to work for security reasons, or should i just do a start up script to run it when i open a shell?
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13:07<petn-randall>user01: That's the way it should be, assuming you have to type passwords to unlock those SSH keys.
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13:07<petn-randall>user01: If you don't have any password on them anyway, there isn't much stopping any program from accessing them.
13:08<user01>petn-randall, yeah they are password protected
13:08<user01>ok ill just type it in each time then
13:08<petn-randall>user01: Then it's probably a good thing that they can't be automatically added to your ssh-agent.
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13:16*grummund is trialling the various stock desktop environments...
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13:16<grummund>with openbox no task bar or anything except the right-click context menu, that's cool. So i right-click and select Debian->WindowManagers->xfwm, now clicking on the desktop no longer brings up a menu. Was that supposed to happen?
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14:35<somiaj>grummund: you switched to the xfwm window manager (part of xfce) but didn't run all of xfce so you are limited to what that wm allows you to do.
14:35<somiaj>grummund: there are various third party pannels/docks you can run in openbox
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14:35<somiaj>grummund: You will have to look at xfwm and its defalts to see what menus and etc are available.
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14:38<newbie|2>does anyone knows where to put "preseed.cfg" on USB or CD and how to access it during installation via ESC key? could not figure out the exact command for "file=/folder/preseed.cfg"
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14:54<amacater>newbie12: Preseeding chapter in Debian handbook - if you have a Debian system apt-get install debian-handbook
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15:06<newbie|2>amacater: already read that numerous times, but still dont get it:( for example if i put preseed.cfg in the root of cd (iso) and then during install type "file=/preseed.cfg" or "file=/cdrom/preseed.cfg" it is not found
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15:21<a2>hello world
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15:26<arinov>hi there
15:26<arinov>what port is for SSL?
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15:27*dboles googles "ssl port"
15:27<dboles>As opposed to unsecured HTTP URLs which begin with "http://" and use port 80 by default, secure HTTPS URLs begin with "https://" and use port 443 by default.
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15:27<arinov>dboles: i mean IRC OFC
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15:27<arinov>OFTC*
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15:28<nkuttler>sounds like a question for #oftc
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15:47<grummund>somiaj: belated thanks
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16:31<stealth_>hello
16:31<stealth_>here i learn be hacker?
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16:32<sirkrieger[m]>Sure can!
16:32<dboles>so near and yet so far...
16:32<sirkrieger[m]>Oh wait... They left.
16:33<dboles>maybe they got hacked :O
16:33<sirkrieger[m]>Maybe they wanted to learn to write malicious code instead of doing things with playful skill
16:34<sirkrieger[m]>And then felt guilty so they left.
16:34<dboles>heh
16:34<dboles>playful skill, or endless trial and error converging on something that resembles knowing what we're doing... either works!
16:35*dboles speaks for self
16:35<sirkrieger[m]>Yep
16:35<sirkrieger[m]>First time trying to patch and compile a kernel today.
16:36<dboles>i call it the 'oh crap where did i put that one script where i already figured this out' method
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16:36<sirkrieger[m]>Or when you fix something but then re install a month later and realise you have no idea what you had to do previously to get the system to boot.
16:39*dboles dares not reinstall
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16:47<sirkrieger[m]>dboles: I'm new to IRC. How are you doing that?
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16:49<dboles>type /me does whatever you do
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16:49*sirkrieger[m] Needs to go home
16:50<sirkrieger[m]>Ahh
16:50<sirkrieger[m]>Thank you :)
16:50*sirkrieger[m] gives you his thanks.
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16:51<dboles>haha
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17:41<sirkrieger[m]>When trying to patch my 4.9.2 Debian nodded kernel source with the touchpad patch from https://github.com/neoreeps/surface-pro-3/blob/master/patches/0005-surface-touchpad patch it tells me Hunk #1 Failed at 724, 678, and 276 and Hunk #2 failed at 1927.
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17:41<sirkrieger[m]>Does anyone know how I can fix this?
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17:42<sirkrieger[m]>When trying to patch my 4.9.2 Debian nodded kernel source with the touchpad patch from https://github.com/neoreeps/surface-pro-3/blob/master/patches/0005-surface-touchpad.patch it tells me Hunk #1 Failed at 724, 678, and 276 and Hunk #2 failed at 1927. Oops I forgot the .patch part of the URL in my last message.
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17:44<sney>it means that whatever files that patch is supposed to modify don't match what the patch expects
17:44<retrospectacus>You can try manually edit drivers/hid/hid-core.c and do the code changes
17:46<retrospectacus>s/hid-core/*/
17:46<sirkrieger[m]>This would be in the source directory I tried to apply the patch in?
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17:47<sney>yes, after all that's what the patch is trying to do
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17:51<sirkrieger[m]>Right
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17:52<sirkrieger[m]>Given that I've never done this before and have never compiled a kernel. How long should it take me to figure out how to patch it manually?
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17:57<sirkrieger[m]>sney: When in the hid-core.c.rej file it says @@ -724,16 +724,7 @@ static void hid_scan_collection(strict his_parser *parser, unsigned type) it is saying that the error is on line 724 of hid-core.c ?
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17:58<sney>sirkrieger[m]: that's where it was trying to find what to patch, yeah.
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17:58<sney>it's better if you just read the patch and try to find the matching sections. it's even better if you can talk to the patch author and get their advice for applying it to this particular kernel
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17:59<bog_>do desktop notifications work for any of you in firefox? It works for me in chromium but not firefox: http://www.bennish.net/web-notifications.html
18:01<dboles>my GMail ones do
18:01<dboles>that one doesn't
18:01<bog_>okay, I wonder why it only works for some sites
18:01<dboles>it does talk about really old versions, and a w3c draft... maybe things moved on since then?
18:02<bog_>I guess so, and maybe chrome supports all implementations of desktop notifications while FF only supports the newest
18:03<sirkrieger[m]>sney: I found a similar patch that has supposedly been used on newer kernels. I'm going to try to add that patch and hope that it works since that would be the laziest way to go about this. I'll let you know if it works out.
18:03<dboles>bog_: i'm purely speculating ofc
18:04<bog_>dboles, I know, but I can't find anything on the web. It's no big deal though
18:04<dboles>bog_: i recall talk of "web push notifications" when reading about this before, and for all i know, they're something different...
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19:49<randonzera>/modo de me $+x
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20:33<randonzera>Hi.. anyone here?
20:34<sney>no
20:34<randonzera>all bot?
20:35<sney>this is a support channel. do you have a debian question?
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20:37<randonzera>I'm trying to find a channel that talks about hack, could you tell me one?
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20:37<sney>lol
20:37<sney>no.
20:37<randonzera>Okay thanks.. Im not a hacker, i just wanna study about
20:38<sney>http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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20:41<randonzera>interesting.. But I'm looking for a group or irc :/
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20:43<sney>anyone who goes to random OS support channels looking for "talks about hack" is too much of a noob to be accepted by any of the real groups
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20:44<sney>read that whole essay, follow its advice, seek understanding of computers and software and security. then you'll have enough skills to be rich for the rest of your life. or be a l33t h4x0r if you're still stupid and/or zealous
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20:45<randonzera>First time I use the hexchat, drop right here
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20:46<sney>it suggested you join here and you just accepted it without thinking or reading
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21:02<coruja>sney, nice reading ;)
21:04<sney>it's not perfect but it's a better start than watching a movie and deciding to be leet
21:04<coruja>ofc
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21:07<ClaireGetz>Hello!
21:07<ClaireGetz>Is anyone there
21:07<ClaireGetz>My cat is with me!
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21:08<ClaireGetz># PhobeDACat
21:08<ClaireGetz>Is Anyone there?!
21:09<shijuprasad[m]>Yes
21:09<ClaireGetz>thank you
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21:09<shijuprasad[m]>Are you interested in wifi security
21:09<ClaireGetz>Soon I have too leave.
21:09<ClaireGetz>Nope!
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21:10<ClaireGetz>Anyone Else!?
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21:11<ClaireGetz>*Yawns*
21:11<Michael_>Hi!
21:11<Michael_>My name is Michael Getz
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21:11<Michael_>I live in Ohio
21:11<ClaireGetz>Is That Michael Getz!?
21:12<Michael_>Yes!
21:12<Michael_>The one who is right in the room next to you!
21:12<Michael_>>~<
21:12<ClaireGetz>Dude your my dumb stupid brother!
21:13<ClaireGetz>>~<
21:13<Michael_>T^T
21:13<somiaj>this is a support channel, please stay on topic
21:13<ClaireGetz>;P
21:13<Michael_>What's the topic?
21:13<somiaj>debian support, read /topic
21:14<ClaireGetz> What Is Dat
21:14<somiaj>if you don't have a debian specific question please take your conversation elsewhere.
21:14<coruja>and if you keep on like this, you'll be right on the way of getting banned from here soon ;)
21:14<Michael_>I would like to ask a question...
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21:14<Michael_>What is "debian"?
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21:15<ClaireGetz>Me and My Brother is just trying to have Fun! :(
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21:15<somiaj>https://www.debian.org/intro/about
21:15<Michael_>I don't know how to get there!
21:15<Michael_>>~<
21:15<ClaireGetz>. . .
21:16<somiaj>there are other social channel, type /j #moocows (think that is one)
21:16<ClaireGetz>Please don't banned us we will quit
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21:17<somiaj>ClaireGetz: I prefer not to ban people, and hope they are respectful enough to see this channel is for debian support.
21:18<ClaireGetz>somiaj : okay I will come back when I need support
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21:19<somiaj>ClaireGetz: there are social/chat channels, #moocows or #debian-offtopic for example
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21:19<ClaireGetz>GTG
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23:27<annadane>what is the name of the package of the package updater in gnome?
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23:29<awal1>,v gnome-software
23:29<judd>Package: gnome-software on amd64 -- stretch: 3.22.4-1; sid: 3.22.5-1
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23:32<awal1>I think gnome jessie doesnt have software manager, annadane
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23:32<awal1>check 'synaptic'
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23:41<awal1>,v update-manager-gnome
23:41<judd>Package: update-manager-gnome on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.200.5-2.1
23:41<somiaj>I think it's name has changed.
23:42<somiaj>it was update-notifier, but this is now a transition package for gnome-packagekit
23:43<awal1>right
23:44<awal1>, gnome-packagekit
23:44<awal1>,v gnome-packagekit
23:44<judd>Package: gnome-packagekit on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.2-2; jessie: 3.14.0-1; sid: 3.22.1-2; stretch: 3.22.1-2
23:46<ap4lmtree>hi, i need to restart my lxpanel, so i did a killall lxpanel, in then in cli , i typed lxpanel &, but i have to keep my shell open for the panel to still work
23:46<ap4lmtree>is there something else i can do?
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23:50<somiaj>ap4lmtree: you could use nohup, or launch it from a menu/laucher app like gkrun
23:50<ap4lmtree>thanks
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