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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-02-06

---Logopened Mon Feb 06 00:00:33 2017
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00:39<grawity>is there an apt-get/apt-cache option to list all installed packages that are not in the repos?
00:39<somiaj>grawity: aptitude search ~o
00:39<grawity>I don't think this thing has aptitude :(
00:40<somiaj>grawity: note this doens't care about versions, only if it package name is not currently in the cache
00:40<somiaj>it doesn't, almost all install should have it
00:40<grawity>(in the sense of, I don't think I can *install* aptitude on it)
00:40<somiaj>it is an important package and should be installed by default
00:40<grawity>it's an OEM distro based on Debian but with its own trimmed-down repos
00:40<grawity>and with some plain-Debian stuff dpkg -i'd
00:41<somiaj>oh so it is off topic, anyways I don't know if apt-cache can do it without making a script that apt-cache shows or apt-cache policy each installed package and checks it is there
00:41<grawity>well, #apt doesn't seem as lively
00:42<somiaj>on debian aptitude search ~o
00:42<grawity>(though as far as importance goes, I think this is the first time I'd have *ever* needed aptitude on Debian...)
00:42<somiaj>anyways you could try to write a script, mostly just a loop, got to decide how to deal with the output of apt-cache policy.
00:42<grawity>well I guess some awk will do
00:44<grawity>good, `apt-cache pkgnames | while read p; do apt-cache policy $p | grep -qs "999 http" || echo $p; done` seems to work
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00:52<themill>!which repo
00:52<dpkg>To see what repository a package may have come from, try https://www.palfrader.org/gitweb/?p=tools/weaselutils.git;a=blob_plain;f=apt-listrepository or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list>
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03:40<rovanion>Hi lads! I've got a strange issue where a folder exists when I ls, but it's modline is d????????? ? ? ? ? ?, but mount reports that the contents of the folder should be mounted over sshfs.
03:43<rovanion>I'm unable to stat the folder, and thus unable to umount it because: The file or folder does not exist.
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03:44<grawity>unmounting doesn't require being able to stat it
03:45<grawity>this usually happens when the userspace part (sshfs) has died without a clean unmount
03:45<grawity>but either `fusermount -u foo` or `umount foo` should definitely work
03:46<rovanion>A sudo umount foo did work to unmount it!
03:46<rovanion>And I think I've found the issue, the target folder on the remote machine was in turn not mounted.
03:46<rovanion>For some reason zfs isn't loaded into the kernel on boot.
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05:00<m1sc>hey. with the latest chromium update (i believe), my installed extensions disappeared and i can't reinstall them. after clicking "add extension" in the chrome.google.com store, i get an error "installation is not enabled". anybody knows why? chromium 55.0.2883.75-6
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05:01<petn-randall>m1sc: Is this on stable?
05:01<petn-randall>,v chromium
05:01<jm_>there's a bug report for it
05:01<judd>Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1; stretch: 55.0.2883.75-6; jessie-security: 56.0.2924.76-1~deb8u1; sid: 56.0.2924.76-3
05:01<jm_>#851927
05:01<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/851927 in chromium (closed): «chromium: add extensions option to CHROMIUM_FLAGS»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2017-01-20; last modified: 2017-02-05.
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05:05<m1sc>petn-randall: on testing
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05:05<m1sc>petn-randall jm_ judd: thank you, will check the report
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05:08<m1sc>`export CHROMIUM_FLAGS="$CHROMIUM_FLAGS --enable-remote-extensions"` in /etc/chromium.d/default-flags worked
05:12<petn-randall>m1sc: The NEWS entry for that package is probably also relevant.
05:12<petn-randall>m1sc: "zless /usr/share/doc/chromium/NEWS.Debian.gz"
05:14<m1sc>petn-randall: thanks
05:14<petn-randall>m1sc: I recommend installing apt-listchanges, so that it can show you those changes during install time.
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07:12<amoe>I want to pin jessie-backports to some value that allows backports packages to be installable without using "-t", because I am using puppet to manage the server and it's unable to deal with "-t"
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07:12<amoe>I want packages to be installable from backports when they're explicitly requested, but I don't want the entire system to be upgraded to backports
07:13<amoe>I thought that I could do it by pinning backports to 500 and then pinning jessie/main to a higher value -- 800? 900?
07:13<amoe>Does this make sense?
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07:16<themill>What do you mean by "explicitly requested"?
07:16<grawity>hrmm
07:16<grawity>isn't that already the *default* for backports?
07:16<amoe>I just mean that "apt-get install certbot" should succeed, where certbot is only in backports
07:17<grawity>oh, without using -t?
07:17<amoe>yeah
07:17<grawity>no, I doubt that can actually work
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07:18<amoe>yeah I thought it might not even make sense because of upgrades etc
07:18<grawity>you could pin that specific package though
07:18<amoe>Alternatively I can pin the whole dependency tree of the top level packages that I want.
07:18<amoe>But this seems quite laborious + subject to change
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07:26<petn-randall>amoe: "apt-get install cerbot" will happily pull it from backports, since it doesn't exist in jessie.
07:26<petn-randall>,v certbot
07:26<judd>Package: certbot on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 0.9.3-1~bpo8+2; stretch: 0.9.3-1; stretch: 0.10.2-1; sid: 0.10.2-1
07:26<grawity>,v acmetool
07:26<judd>Package: acmetool on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 0.0.58-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.0.58-5; sid: 0.0.58-5
07:27<petn-randall>amoe: No need to explicitely add "-t jessie-backports".
07:27<amoe>petn-randall: on my test system, I get "certbot : Depends: python-certbot (= 0.9.3-1~bpo8+2) but it is not going to be installed"
07:28<grawity>yeah, the -t is still needed for deps
07:28<grawity>that's how it differs from certbot/jessie-backports, afaik
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07:32<amoe>never mind, it seems that I can use "install_options" in puppet to pass "-t"; thanks all
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10:21<hiq[m]>hi, I use debian jessie in a virtualbox guest on a Windows 10 virtualbox host. From time to time sound does not work anymore (in the VM, it still works on the host), but it works again if I save the state in virtualbox, close the VM and open it again. Would there be a command for me to run to have the same kind of behaviour (so getting sound working again) without closing the VM?
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10:24<petn-randall>hiq[m]: Sounds like a bug in windows/virtualbox. The guest won't know anything about you pausing and resuming it.
10:31<hiq[m]>good point...
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10:42<stevenm_>Hi - as odd a request this may be... i've got a fresh jessie install with 4 nics - and I *want* the old 75-persistent-net.rules file as I found it an easy way to rename the interfaces
10:43<stevenm_>now it seems udev comes with the file that generates it but isn't running when interfaces come and go - possibly by design from what I read
10:43<stevenm_>how do I re-enable that?
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10:53<blast007>stevenm_: I'm not sure how much of this is relevant to Jessie, but perhaps the info under 'Custom net interface naming' could help? https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-systemd/systemd.git/tree/debian/udev.README.Debian
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11:52<user31231>hi, using dpkg-deb, Is there any "magic" which can help with handling file/directory permissions "inside" a package (to have right permissions)? (I'm packaging some custom scripts, no build system)
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12:09<TotallyNotKim>i have a problem where a program that accesses a usb device works as root but doesn't as user. I suspect the usb device file which rights are set as 660, and root:root
12:09<TotallyNotKim>how could i test that?
12:09<TotallyNotKim>it's a smartcard reader and the application is gpg acutally
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13:19<MR>patato man
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13:44<giancarlo>helloo
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13:45<Echoz>giancarlo: hi
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13:45<giancarlo>hi
13:45<giancarlo>i need help for a package
13:46<rhiamom>do tell us what it is
13:46<giancarlo>ok, it's the sound recorder
13:47<Echoz>package name?
13:47<giancarlo>only 1 sec.
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13:49<giancarlo>i don't know
13:49<giancarlo>italian language is
13:49<giancarlo>Registratore di Suoni
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13:49<Echoz>But what is the package name that you would use to install it?
13:49<tomcres1>Sound recorder
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13:50<blast007>might be the GNOME sound recorder (gnome-sound-recorder)
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13:51<Echoz>Oh, yeah, I have that
13:51<blast007>giancarlo: what issue are you having?
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13:51<giancarlo>wait a minute,i'm trying to install it then i show you the errors ok?
13:52<blast007>!localized errors
13:52<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
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13:54<blast007>!paste
13:54<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
13:54<giancarlo>wtf, my dad is expert more than me
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13:55<giancarlo>you're talking aarab for me
13:55<giancarlo>the app is named gnome-sound-recorder
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13:55<Echoz>giancarlo: where are you experiencing problems?
13:56<giancarlo>what is the command to install it?
13:56<asdf>evening
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13:57<Echoz>giancarlo: apt-get install gnome-sound-recorder
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13:57<tomcres1>apt install gnome-sound-recorder
13:57<asdf>does anyone here want to look at a yaboot.conf? because i think it might not be right, i installed Debian on a powermac g5 but it won't boot
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13:58<giancarlo>there is the errors.... i hope i can translate
13:59<grit>I am trying to compile gnupg, but make fails "make[2]: *** No rule to make target 'audit-events.h', needed by 'all'. Stop.".
14:00<giancarlo> Impossibile aprire il file di blocco
14:00<Echoz>giancarlo: to get english errors, try running: LC_ALL=C apt-get install gnome-sound-recorder
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14:00<tomcres1>Can't open the lock file
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14:00<giancarlo>yesss
14:00<Echoz>giancarlo: Are you running this as root?
14:01<giancarlo>no
14:01<Echoz>giancarlo: You have to run it as root.
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14:01<giancarlo>how can i do that?
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14:02<blast007>if you set a root password during the install, do 'su -' and type your root password to get a root shell. If you have sudo set up, then you can try 'sudo apt-get install gnome-sound-recorder' and enter your user password
14:02<tomcres1>Type su - and then enter the root password
14:03<giancarlo>failed autentication
14:04<giancarlo>f**k i'm gonna ask the password at the real giancarlo
14:04<giancarlo>i'm his son
14:05<giancarlo>with sudo
14:06<giancarlo>it's impossible to find the gnome sound recorder
14:06<giancarlo>package
14:06<giancarlo>and
14:07<giancarlo>this is the N:
14:07<giancarlo>Ignoring file 'google-chrome.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
14:07<giancarlo>what does it mean???
14:08<tomcres1>It's an irrelevant warning. Nothing to worry about.
14:08<Echoz>It means there's a source list with an invalid file extension, but it's just a warning.
14:08<giancarlo>but it can't find the package
14:08<Echoz>did you spell it correctly? "gnome-sound-recorder"
14:09<giancarlo>si
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14:09<giancarlo>yep
14:10<Echoz>you may want to run "sudo apt update" to update the lists, in case you haven't been using mirrors yet
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14:11<giancarlo>im trying to update
14:13<giancarlo>Echoz: There are so much errors
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14:15<Echoz>giancarlo: try installing again anyway, fixing that might be a little more work than you're up for right now
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14:15<Echoz>regardless it sounds like you may have a little bit of a frankendebian on your hands
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14:17<giancarlo>ok,i'm going to ask to g.carlo
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14:18<giancarlo>this OS its a little bit complicate for me,but i'm gonna learn
14:19<giancarlo>Echoz: thanks so much
14:19<giancarlo>goodbye
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14:26<grit>is it possible to downgrade gnupg to 1.4 with apt? I tried it. but several applications depend on gnupg2
14:26<mtn>!downgrade
14:26<dpkg>Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
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14:35<somiaj>grit: whatversion of debian are you running?
14:36<grit>somiaj: testing, but since some weeks gpg --search does not work anymore, so I thought of downgrading it https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=854359
14:37<somiaj>grit: you can use snapshot.debian.org for that
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14:37<somiaj>grit: or if you don't clean your downloads, you may have the .deb sitting inside of /var/cache/apt/archives still
14:37<somiaj>note I would keep an eye on that bug report as you will eventaully want to be running the version that is released with stretch
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14:39<grit>i subscribed to the bug. snapshot is interesting. maybe the experimental version is worth a try
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14:39<somiaj>I wouldn't use the experimental version (But I also suggest one stablaizes with stretch and in the future make the decision to upgrade to the next testing)
14:40<somiaj>since stretch is frozen you don't want any versions > than what is in stretch right now (to stablize with it)
14:40<grit>18-4 is still affected, but maybe 18-7 not - the bug is fixed upstream https://bugs.gnupg.org/gnupg/issue2889
14:40<somiaj>sure, but stretch won't get a new version. The fix will be backported to the version in stretch
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14:41<bart>rr http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main libisc95 amd64 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u8 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80] Err http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main libdns100 amd64 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u8 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80] Err http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main libisccc90 amd64 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u8 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80] Err http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main l
14:41<bart>when running
14:42<bart>apt-get install bind9
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14:42<bart>where to report that the repo replies with server response 404 not found ?
14:42<somiaj>bart: rerur apt-get update, you may have not updated your database and the security fixes are now in the newest point release.
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14:44<bart>somiaj: thanks it helped
14:44<grit>thanks somiaj, you convinced me to keep gnupg from stable and upgrade when the bug is fixed.
14:44<bart>i don't understand how could it affect the remote download from the repo
14:44<bart>it does not make any sense
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14:47<somiaj>grit: The bug is only important, all though it may be fixed, it isn't an rc bug. I hope it will git fixed, and feel free to send additional info the bug if needed.
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14:50<grit>i hope it will get backported. it would be an annoying regression to have an disfunctional dirmngr in stable for the next years. is there a chance to raise the priority?
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15:08<ryouma>what does it mean that stretch is frozen? what if the best way to fix a bug is to use a more recent upstream? will those get in without approval?
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15:14<blast007>ryouma: https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html
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15:16<ryouma>i can't make sense of that wrt my question
15:16<grit>for "gpg --search" gnupg 1.4.18 warns "gpg: WARNING: keyserver handler from a different version of GnuPG (1.4.20 libcurl/7.52.1 GnuTLS/3.5.8 zlib/1.2.8 libidn2/0.16 libpsl/0.17.0 (+libidn2/0.16) libssh2/1.7.0nghttp2/1.18.1 librtmp/2.3)" - does this mean I can't communicate with the server with a version prior to gpg2?
15:17<ryouma>i'm just a user
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15:19<tshepang>ryouma: frozen is the final stage of stabilisation in preparation for release
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15:20<ryouma>does that mean that if hte best fix is the newer version it will not get in?
15:20<tshepang>that means no new upstream stuff goes into stable+1 automatically
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15:20<tshepang>only changes that fix RC bugs will be allowed in
15:21<ryouma>ok, so all changes are still made in upstream then migrate?
15:21<tshepang>in the case of "best fix is new upstream", maintainer will have to create a patch that fixes such an issue
15:21<blast007>ryouma: a "targeted fix" to me means, for instance, a patch against the frozen version that fixes a specific bug
15:22<ryouma>what if the fix is really huge and complex if you try it as a targeted patch?
15:22<tshepang>am sure special cases are allowed
15:23<tshepang>it will have to be justified though
15:24<tshepang>for example, big stuff like firefox-esr and chrome
15:24<tshepang>s/chrome/chromium
15:24<ryouma>just wary of hte time between freeze and release
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15:25<tshepang>yeah, it's always a concern
15:25<ryouma>thanks
15:25<tshepang>but what do you do
15:25<tshepang>it's a trade-off
15:25<blast007>ryouma: as mentioned in the link I provided, packages can also be removed from testing during the freeze
15:25<ryouma>dunno :). i figure they know what they are doing, but if you could fix rc bugs /before/ a freeze that's better :)
15:26<tshepang>yep
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15:26<ryouma>i am less interested in "not changing" stability than "no rc bugs" stability
15:26<tshepang>hopefully the process gets more and more refined in order to shorten the gap
15:28<tshepang>... gap between freeze and release that is
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15:33<grit>staying on testing reduces the gap - that's my little contribution to the community testing new versions
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15:56<stripe>hi all, trying to get sound from a tty machine, got alsamixer (alsa-utils) but no noise, even after selecting correct sound card (f6), anything obvious I am missing?
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15:58<SynrG>stripe: put output from amixer for the card in a pastebin
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16:03<stripe>SynrG: sorry have not got a pastebin alias configured on this machine yet
16:04<SynrG>hard to help then
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16:05<stripe>Synrg I know, but thanks for trying,
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16:05<tomcres>Did you unmute the sound card in alsamixer?
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16:05<SynrG>the usual reason is, one of the outputs is muted or has no volume set, eg pcm, front, master, etc
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16:07<stripe>tomcres: yes I think so, it automaticaly points to the hdmi output instead of the pch, hence changing it with f6
16:09<tomcres>But did you press M to unmute it? Your sound cards are muted by default
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16:10<SynrG>does that change default output? i doubt it
16:10<SynrG>make .asoundrc to change it
16:10<blast007>!alsa checklist
16:10<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
16:11<SynrG>!alsa default
16:11<dpkg>Use the /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc configuration files to set your default sound card. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards for more information. You can also configure it in pavucontrol if you are using PulseAudio.
16:11<shirish[m]>hi all, I am trying to find a page where a specific maintainer's all packages that he maintains is listed. Is there such a resource ?
16:12<blast007>shirish[m]: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php
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16:15<shirish[m]>blast007: thank you, I knew that resource but always forget it.
16:15<blast007>shirish[m]: you can also quickly get to a maintainer's page by finding a package they maintain on https://packages.debian.org and clicking on the 'QA Page' link near their name on the right.
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17:21<saxsalute>could somebody help me with a networking issue? I have access to my local network, DHCP is working and I'm able to resolve DNS, but I have no Internet access
17:21<saxsalute>This is on a completely fresh install
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17:23<Echoz>saxsalute: output of 'ip r s'?
17:23<saxsalute>making a pastebin
17:24<saxsalute>http://pastebin.com/raw/TwYHHTcm
17:26<saxsalute>Some other possibly relevant info: this is a dual boot system with Windows 10, and Windows has completely normal Internet access
17:26<Echoz>what's your current IP address/cidr?
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17:26<saxsalute>echoz: current ip is 129.2.204.242
17:27<scootergrisen>What is the thing called start i see first if i download a Debian ISO and run it in gnome-boxes
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17:27<Echoz>saxsalute: of course, i should have seen that. can you reach 129.2.204.1?
17:27<saxsalute>echoz: yes, I can
17:28<Echoz>try doing a traceroute to 8.8.8.8 and see how far it gets
17:30<saxsalute>http://pastebin.com/raw/WQXKSPRf
17:30<Echoz>do you have a computer that can currently reach the internet where you could do the same?
17:31<saxsalute>yes, I'll run one from my mac that I'm on now
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17:32<saxsalute>though this will be wireless whereas the affected PC is wired
17:33<saxsalute>I can boot to windows and run the traceroute again
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17:33<Echoz>saxsalute: might be a good idea, seeing as you'll get the same dhcp lease as well
17:33<saxsalute>yeah my thoughts exactly
17:35<saxsalute>http://pastebin.com/raw/As2LkzS8
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17:36<Echoz>saxsalute: appears to be taking the same route. i see you're at a college, do you know if there is any sort of proxy?
17:37<Echoz>university i mean
17:37<saxsalute>So this is a PC belonging to a friend of mine - I don't live on campus anymore, but I used debian when I lived in the same building with no proxy and no issues
17:39<Zoe>Hi, just upgraded to stretch (I've previously upgraded without issue once in the freeze) and after rebooting lightdm/X doesn't seem to start, all I get is command prompt on tty1, nothing at all on tty7 and periodic messages saying kworker blocked for more than 120 seconds.
17:39<Echoz>if you go back to debian, though, try to see if you can reach the other addresses in the path you got from windows
17:40<saxsalute>I tried that a bit earlier and no dice - gonna try again to be certain
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17:42<saxsalute>echoz: as expected, it can reach the address that it reached in its own traceroute, but fails at 129.2.0.82
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17:45<Echoz>we probably should have taken a look at the routing table in windows as well when you were there
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17:46<saxsalute>I can take a quick reboot again
17:47<Echoz>all right, do that
17:47<saxsalute>by the magic of ssd
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17:47<Echoz>hehe, luckily you're not on an old 5.4k drive
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17:48<saxsalute>pastebin.com/raw/SZzhvp66
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17:51<Echoz>hm.. it is a little different
17:53<Echoz>129.2.2.4.0/23 this network isn't on your link
17:54<Echoz>wait, that's not even an address
17:54<Echoz>did you accidentally edit before you pasted the routing table from linux or am i seeing what im seeing
17:55<saxsalute>Which part are you wondering about?
17:55<blast007>Echoz: maybe it's IPv5 ;)
17:56<Echoz>the network 129.2.2.4.0
17:56<Echoz>blast007: hahaha
17:56<saxsalute>Oh, that should be 129.2.204.0
17:56<Echoz>it should, but my question is if you made a mistake or something in debian made a mistake
17:56<saxsalute>I made a mistake
17:57<saxsalute>Troubles of data entry from a non-networked machine
17:57<Echoz>okay, good, i get to keep my sanity
17:57<saxsalute>haha
17:57<saxsalute>Mine has been waning since this started :P
17:57<saxsalute>At first I had an install of Ubuntu and it was working perfectly, then the next day is just died
17:58<saxsalute>And no amount of reinstall or even switching distros helped
17:59<Echoz>saxsalute: one thing i did notice though is that in debian you get the address .242 and in windows .232, unless this was also a mistake?
17:59<saxsalute>windows was pasted directly
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17:59<saxsalute>since it's networked
17:59<saxsalute>so that would be correct it seems, yes
18:00<saxsalute>.242 is what I've been getting as long as I can remember through troubleshooting this
18:00<saxsalute>On the linux side, at least
18:01<Echoz>for the sake of testing you could set it to .232 statically
18:01<saxsalute>interesting - let's give that a shot
18:02<Echoz>lease should be reserved by windows anyway, so i'd not imagine there would be any conflict
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18:03<Echoz>reserved for, rather
18:04<saxsalute>I lost DNS, but I am able to ping to 8.8.8.8
18:04<saxsalute>This is a very strange revelation
18:05<Echoz>saxsalute: did you set a dns server, though?
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18:05<saxsalute>about to set to google dns
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18:06<saxsalute>ok, so with that address I have internet access
18:07<saxsalute>I wonder why linux seems to be consistently getting an address that doesn't work
18:08<Echoz>saxsalute: it's odd, i suppose you haven't spoofed your mac address in either windows or linux, right?
18:08<saxsalute>Have not
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18:12<scootergrisen>What is the thing called when i start a Debian ISO? The first screen i see before installing Debian?
18:13<tomcres>Isolinux?
18:14<scootergrisen>Is that translateable?
18:14<Echoz>saxsalute: try running this: sudo nmap --script broadcast-dhcp-discover -e eth0
18:15<Echoz>i guess you can install nmap at this point if you're able to reach 8.8.8.8
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18:15<scootergrisen>I would like that first screen to be in my language
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18:17<scootergrisen>In some distributions you can press F2 to change the language. I would like something simelar in Debian
18:17<saxsalute>I lost the connection - I'll reboot to windows to find the new address
18:17<saxsalute>I tried to re-register it with the campus network
18:17<Echoz>with dhcp?
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18:17<scootergrisen>So users can select the correct language etc. because the installer starts or before try Debian
18:17<saxsalute>we have to register our mac address with the university for access, so I tried redoing that
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18:18<Echoz>oh, did you see if the one in linux was the same as the registered one?
18:19<saxsalute>it is - I registered the mac address as listed in linux
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18:20<saxsalute>So I ran nmap
18:20<saxsalute>Got back WARNING: No targets were specified, so 0 hosts scanned.
18:20<scootergrisen>Does Debian use isolinux as boot loader?
18:20<saxsalute>Nmap done: 0 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.36 seconds
18:21<tomcres>I honestly don't know if isolinux supports that functionality. I think it would be a nice feature though. You may want to consider filing it as a bug.
18:21<Echoz>saxsalute: I get the warning as well, but I get a DHCPOFFER
18:22<tomcres>It users GRUB once it's installed, but isolinux on the installation images
18:22<tomcres>*uses
18:22<Echoz>saxsalute: but i get the same results as you if i don't run as root, did you?
18:22<saxsalute>aha, so the line that says IP Offered
18:22<saxsalute>It did offer me a new and exciting IP
18:23<Echoz>saxsalute: what was it this time? and i suppose the mask is still 255.255.254.0, router was 129.2.204.1?
18:23<scootergrisen>Are there any reason why it does not use the same?
18:23<saxsalute>I switched my interface to thae offered address
18:23<TobiX>scootergrisen: AFAIR, "translating" isolinux just duplicates the configuration in all supported languages...
18:23<saxsalute>it gave me 129.2.205.42
18:23<saxsalute>Which is on the /23 subnet
18:23<saxsalute>And seems to be working
18:23<saxsalute>I wonder what's causing it to not request an address when networking starts?
18:23<Echoz>saxsalute: did you set it statically or enable dhcp?
18:24<scootergrisen>I dont know what duplicates the configuration ... mean
18:24<Echoz>saxsalute: that would depend, are you using networkmanager?
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18:25<TobiX>scootergrisen: There is a config file named isolinux.cfg on the CD, which contains the "code" which shows the boot menu. This file must be duplicated for every supported language
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18:34<scootergrisen>Are you sure its called isolinux.cfg? Do you mean grub.cfg?
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18:36<TobiX>scootergrisen: grub.cfg is only used for EFI boot. And I think therein lies the problem: You would have to translate 2 bootloaders...
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18:38<scootergrisen>Ok found the isolinux.cfg
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18:38<scootergrisen>Is the "_" and error in menu title _Debian GNU/Linux installer boot menu?
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18:40<TobiX>scootergrisen: That's a ^G in my editor.
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18:41<TobiX>tomcres: You beat me to it, I was still counting my ASCII table ;)
18:41<austin_>hello?
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18:41<scootergrisen>I see like "menu label ^Help" with the ^
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18:41<austin_>I lost connection from irc
18:41<austin_>I have no idea why
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18:41<austin_>Echoz, are you still here??
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18:41<TobiX>scootergrisen: ^ marks that the next character is a hotkey.
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18:42<scootergrisen>The makes sense for the Help... but "menu title _Debian GNU/Linux installer boot menu" gives me "_Debian GNU/Linux installer boot menu"
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18:42<austin_>hello, echoz are you here?
18:43<TobiX>scootergrisen: What you see as an underscore is a BEL character
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18:43<scootergrisen>Like here https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/images/inst-boot.png
18:43<scootergrisen>But it shows up as "_" on the screen
18:44<TobiX>scootergrisen: That's an old screenshot. That's not the case on current ISOs
18:44<scootergrisen>When i run in gnome-boxes at least
18:44<TobiX>8.7.1?
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18:46<scootergrisen>I have debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso Debian 9
18:46<scootergrisen>But ok if it have been fixed.
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18:46<scootergrisen>I just wondered
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18:47<TobiX>scootergrisen: Back too your question: I think the language-selection patches for syslinux/isolinux are Ubuntu-specific: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download
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18:49<scootergrisen>Yeah i read something about gfxboot.
18:49<TobiX>scootergrisen: Maybe even this one: https://github.com/openSUSE/gfxboot - There seem to be some translation tools there...
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18:51<scootergrisen>Where do you see translation tools?
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18:54<austin_>Echoz?
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19:07<TobiX>scootergrisen: https://github.com/openSUSE/gfxboot/blob/master/doc/gfxboot.8#L55-L62
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19:08<TobiX>scootergrisen: It's all very undocumented
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19:13<scootergrisen>Seems it uses .tr and .hlp files for translations.
19:13<scootergrisen>Wonder why it does not have high prioipy when its the first thing the user might see.
19:13<TobiX>scootergrisen: That matches what I found on an Ubuntu DVD...
19:14<scootergrisen>Yeah i found da.tr and da.hlp on it
19:14<TobiX>Because just hitting ENTER will bring you into the installer?
19:14<scootergrisen>Which starts in english
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19:15<scootergrisen>Lets say you are a new user and want to test Linux and maybe you dont understand english
19:15<TobiX>With the language selection
19:17<scootergrisen>Yeah its not bad. I just would like the final touch
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19:19<TobiX>scootergrisen: There is the installation guide: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen ;)
19:19<TobiX>Yeah, I know, nobody reads that ;)
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19:20<scootergrisen>But the user can read the guide...
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19:24<scootergrisen>can't
19:24<TobiX>scootergrisen: It's available in some languages: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.de#boot-screen
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19:25<scootergrisen>Yeah but i mean if the user only have one computer then how can the user read the guide?
19:25<scootergrisen>I guess the user could print it out
19:26<scootergrisen>But the user can like open a web browser and read the guide while starting
19:29<scootergrisen>For example if using a live image it would be nice to be able to select language from the beginning... so that GNOME or what ever starts with that language.
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19:30<scootergrisen>Instead of the user having to figure out how to change language and keyboard layout etc. in GNOME and then if the user wants to test KDE it would have a different way of changing language.
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19:32<scootergrisen>How come the live image just start up a terminal?
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19:34<scootergrisen>I got debian-live-8.7.1-amd64-standard.iso.torrent from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/
19:36<scootergrisen>Hmm the standard live image is only 4xx MB but the gnome one is like 1,4 GB. Is the standard one not suppose to be GNOME?
19:36<scootergrisen>Or maybe standard mean without a desktop inviroment now?
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19:49<Raku>Been having issues resolving an error I guess you could call it, I've had some random spam in my dmesg for a while but only just recently got assed to fix it, I got most of it cleared up and now it's just this https://paste.debian.net/912599/ that along with the other messages I originally thought were just completely randomly flooding, but they actually go whenever I do some systemd
19:49<Raku>operation(Maybe other events but not too sure about that)
19:49<Raku>This is syslog when the message appears in dmesg https://paste.debian.net/912597/ and here's journalctl -x https://paste.debian.net/912711/
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21:57<Raku>Been having issues resolving an error I guess you could call it, I've had some random spam in my dmesg for a while but only just recently got assed to fix it, I got most of it cleared up and now it's just this https://paste.debian.net/912599/ that along with the other messages I originally thought were just completely randomly flooding, but they actually go whenever I do some systemd
21:57<Raku>operation(Maybe other events but not too sure about that)
21:57<Raku>This is syslog when the message appears in dmesg https://paste.debian.net/912597/ and here's journalctl -x https://paste.debian.net/912711/
21:59<sney>weird that it's looping
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22:00<sney>my systemd understanding is pretty sparse, but I'm guessing somehow a unit file is calling another one that then calls the first one and so on
22:00<sney>if you have any services running from 3rd party packages I would check that first, or just disable services one by one until the messages stop showing up
22:01<Raku>None of those services seem like services that would be a good idea to disable
22:01<Raku>One of them is swap
22:01<Raku>my swap partition*
22:01<sney>just for test purposes, you can always turn it on again later
22:01<sney>swap is not critical
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22:02<Raku>It is in my case, I have 2 gigs of ram
22:02<Raku>WOuld rather not drop it
22:02<sney>again, it's just for test purposes. if this system is critical all the time and you can't test anything then why are you even asking for troubleshooting help
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22:03<sney>just check it, and if the messages keep going, turn it back on. like, 5 seconds max. :P
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22:05<Raku>Disable and stop?
22:05<Raku>Disabling doesn't seem to be making any difference at all
22:06<tomcres1>Disable turns it off at boot
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22:06<sney>yes I meant stop, turn off, etc
22:06<sney>like flipping switches one by one to see which one is making the buzzing noise. troubleshooting.
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22:09<Raku>Okay so it seems to have cleared up from stop/disabling acpid
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22:11<Raku>Okay I enabled acpid back and it's all cleared I guess....
22:11<Raku>This is odd because this is something that's persisted through reboots and I've only just now bothered to try and fix it
22:11<Raku>But then how would rebooting not clear it up if disable/reenable doe
22:11<Raku>does*
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