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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-02-08

---Logopened Wed Feb 08 00:00:36 2017
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00:04-!-octal is "Octavio Alvarez" on #packaging @#pinpoint #debian-next #debian-mx #debian-mentors-es #debian-mentors #debian-ipv6 #debian-gnome #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian
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00:27<JD675>anyone use an airport with their debian distro?
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00:31<bugaloo>hi all. please, how can I set a script to run when a specific network inteface goes up?
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00:31-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian #debianppc
00:31<somiaj>bugaloo: how are you configuring your network?
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02:45-!-clarence is "Clarence Huang" on #debian
02:46<clarence>I have seen "./" lots of time, what does it mean
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02:50<grove>clarence: Context? When I use it it
02:51<grove>+'s mostly to run a program placed in the current directory
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02:57<tomg>it means "in the current directory"
02:58<tomg>often times for running, like grove says :)
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02:59<clarence>@gove in xboard install document
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04:41<test>hello :D
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05:34<itd>lks: Hello.
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07:13<anandane>hi, i've installed wine, and launched winecfg, and it says "Wine could not find a mono package... Wine can automatically download and install it for you. Note: it is recommended to use your distribution's packages instead." and gives me a wiki link. the wiki link doesn't explain how to use my distribution's packages
07:14<SynrG>unsurprisingly
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07:14<anandane>have tried searching for it in the package manager and don't see anything
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07:17<SynrG>maybe that's mono-complete?
07:17*SynrG shrugs
07:17<SynrG>not sure
07:17<grove>I installed mono last night, I just did `apt install mono-complete` (didn't have the time to find out which parts I actually needed, but mono-runtime plus some libmono-<foo> would probably do
07:18<grove>+)
07:18<anandane>thanks; i think i'm just an idiot
07:18<SynrG>yeah. likewise. i wouldn't bother trying for 'minimal'
07:18<anandane>i just wasn't searching under the right name
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09:50<hiq[m]>is there a way to retrieve the list of bugs related to one package in a specific debian version from the command line? I can do "querybts gnome-terminal", but then I end up with a list of bugs without any indication about the package version
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10:07<Artox>\o
10:08<Artox>Is anyone aware of a suitable packaging team to contact about nfc applications?
10:08<Artox>is there such a thing as pkg-iot? or perhaps one that cares about wireless protocols?
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10:09<petn-randall>Artox: If you're interested in packaging those things, you can ask in #debian-mentors.
10:10<Artox>oh right; the name sounds familiar
10:10<Artox>I will go there
10:10<petn-randall>see you there
10:10<Artox>on freenode?
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10:17<grove>When a channel reference isn't specified to be on a particular network, you should assume it's on the one you're on, which would be OFTC
10:18<grove>(I know that several debian channel also exists on freenode, but not if that includes #debian-mentors, and there's no need to go there when you're already on OFTC)
10:18<Artox>grove, I assumed and found the channel is empty on this network
10:19<Artox>so it must be another
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10:19<Artox>OH
10:19<Artox>sorry.
10:19<Artox>I found whats wrong, nvm
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10:27<petn-randall>Typo?
10:30<Artox>yep.
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13:08<namosca>Hi all! Which Cloud Storage can I install in Debian with LXDE from the free repository which integrates well with the file manager (PCManFM) and office applications like Abiword and LibreOffice?
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13:11<namosca>I had dropbox has something for nautilus, but I understand that Nautilus is not the native file manager from LXDE
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13:17<petn-randall>namosca: Probably none.
13:18<namosca>petn-randall: And non-free??
13:18<petn-randall>I'm guessing that there isn't much overlap between LXDE users and "cloud" users.
13:19<Echoz>namosca: how storage do you need?
13:19<Echoz>how much lol
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13:21<namosca>Not so much, I only keep some .doc documents (like a diary and random writings)
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13:22<Echoz>i'd just go for a cheap vps, then, gives you some more control and easily works with widely supported and secure protocols like sftp
13:24<Echoz>sftp might be possible in dropbox, onedrive, google drive too though, i don't know
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13:27<annadane>you may also wish to browse https://www.privacytools.io/#mycloud
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13:30<namosca>annadane: interesting link, thanks
13:30<namosca>i will go now! have a good night!
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13:42<dumi>привет
13:42<amacater>!ru
13:42<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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14:10<jhutchins>https://github.com/jimradford/superputty <- great tool if you manage multiple *nix from Windows. Simultaneous commands to multiple ssh sessions.
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14:11<jspiros>in testing, what is the recommended way of setting network interface names? it's using the new predictable network interface names by default, but creating .link files per systemd.link(5) isn't actually working
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14:13<jspiros>I think /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules is interfering, but I'm not entirely sure (still learning this new stuff), and anyway I figured I'd just ask :)
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14:24<blast007>jspiros: have you read through /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz ?
14:25<Mrfai>I've uploaded fai_5.3.4~bpo8+1_amd64 to jessie-backports, but in the package tracker, there's only 5.3.3~bpo8+2. Any hints what I can do?
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14:25<somiaj>Mrfai: I'd ask in #debian-mentors. Are you a DD or a DM?
14:26<somiaj>Mrfai: could also be the tracker just hasn't updated
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14:27<jspiros>blast007: yeah, but actually on rereading I think I might be making a stupid mistake, I didn't update my initramfs after creating link files maybe I need to do that
14:27<jspiros>blast007: in general though I am doing it like it says I'm supposed to
14:28*jspiros gives updating initramfs a try
14:28<blast007>jspiros: k, if you're still having issues, you can try asking on #debian-next as that's the channel for testing/unstable
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14:28<jspiros>blast007: yeah, I asked in there shortly after I saw the topic, though I think maybe you were right and I just needed to look at that doc again :)
14:28<blast007>:)
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14:32<jspiros>blast007: thanks, that worked, I'm an idiot :)
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14:42<Mrfai>somiaj: I'm a DD.
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14:43<somiaj>Mrfai: #debian-mentors would be far more knowledgable than I about this, I'm just learing to be a DM.
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15:25<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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15:57<lechuck>hola
15:57<retrospectacus>lechuck: welcome to #debian
15:57<retrospectacus>please ask your debian support question
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16:12<tewn>is it possible to program through regular expressions ?
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16:13<Echoz>tewn: in practice or theoretically if you really, really want to?
16:13<tewn>not theoretically but because i want to
16:14<blast007>I can't even imagine what that would be
16:15<Echoz>tewn: well regex most definitely isn't a programming language, but it would be possible, though extremely inconvenient.
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16:15<Echoz>not on its own of course
16:19<Raineer>that question actually hurt my brain
16:19<Raineer>but it's not a bad question haha
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17:13<tewn>.sguHhgU@ :mih wolloF .golataC thguohT ta recudorP a si leahciM
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17:16<yukiame[m]>how do i exit this app
17:17<retrospectacus>click the x
17:18<retrospectacus>or consult the app's documentation. We don't know what app you are using to connect to IRC
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17:18<yukiame[m]>riot
17:18<yukiame[m]>X doesn't help the app is in the background
17:19<retrospectacus>type /quit
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17:20<yukiame[m]>unrecognized command wtf
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17:21<retrospectacus>unplug your computer :D
17:22<yukiame[m]>burn the house
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18:06<DRichards>Anyone able to help me figure out why I can't write to an external drive? I've been messing with the permissions for an hour and can't figure out what's wrong.
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18:10<mtn>DRichards: how is the drive mounted? what is the format?
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18:11<DRichards>It's an external drive (/dev/sdb1) mounted as ext4 on /media/extd
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18:11<DRichards>It's worked in the past, but has suddenly stopped letting me write. Root can write to it fine, though
18:11<mtn>DRichards: are you trying to write as root or user?
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18:12<DRichards>I've tried both. Standard user 'thomas' can't write, but root can.
18:12<mtn>DRichards: ok, have you reconnected the drive to see if it changes?
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18:12<DRichards>I've tried unmounting/remounting, I'll go change slots and see what that does
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18:14<DRichards>Still unable to write as user.
18:15<mtn>DRichards: you are using the same mount command/process as usual?
18:15<DRichards>Yes.
18:15<DRichards>just "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/extd"
18:15<mtn>DRichards: and what is the ownership/permissions of that partition?
18:15<mtn>DRichards: do you have a line for it in the fstab?
18:15<DRichards>Ownership is thomas:thomas, permissions are set to 777 on all files. I'
18:16<DRichards>I'll check fstab
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18:16<DRichards>"/dev/sdb1 /media/extd/ ext4 defaults 0 0
18:16<DRichards>"
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18:17<mtn>DRichards: add users (I think) to defaults
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18:17<DRichards>so it reads "default,users"?
18:17<mtn>DRichards: I think so. give it a try
18:18<Masterhacker2004>Hey guys
18:18<DRichards>mtn: No dice.
18:18<mtn>DRichards: maybe it is user, I didn't look it up
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18:19<retrospectacus>"man fstab" will tell you about user, users options.
18:19<DRichards>Tried "user" too, still not working
18:19<inkbottle>DRichards: did you re-mount the disk after the fstab alteration?
18:19<DRichards>Yes
18:19<DRichards>umount/mount
18:20<inkbottle>you mount it as "thomas"? or as root?
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18:20<DRichards>I'm signed in as 'thomas', but I have to use sudo. So I think I'm mounting it as thomas?
18:20<DRichards>Still learning
18:20<inkbottle>no
18:21<inkbottle>you have not to use sudo
18:21<inkbottle>nosudo
18:21<DRichards>I try to mount without sudo but it says "mount: only root can do that
18:21<DRichards>"
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18:22<inkbottle>the user argument in fstab (afaik) is to allow you to mount it as thomas (w/o sudo)
18:23<inkbottle>at least it is what I read in the mount man page
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18:23<DRichards>My fstab line reads "/dev/sdb1 /media/extd/ ext4 defaults,user 0 0
18:23<DRichards>", but I still can't mount without sudo.
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18:25<Walex>DRichards: and do you say 'mount /dev/sdb1' or 'mount /media/extd'?
18:26<DRichards>Okay, I got it to mount without sudo by changing fstab's option to defaults,users. I'll see if I can transfer now.
18:26<DRichards>No dice still. Walex: I use "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/extd"
18:26<inkbottle>no good
18:26<DRichards>But it is now mounted as thomas
18:27<inkbottle>can you right on it?
18:27<Walex>DRichards: the user and group ids on the mounted block device may be different from those on your system
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18:28<DRichards>Hahahaha. I think I figured it out. Maybe. I tried to make a small text file and it says it's out of space.
18:28<inkbottle>also, the right way to mount it is "mount /media/extd"
18:28<DRichards>How do I check usage?
18:29<Walex>DRichards: 'df /media/extd/.'
18:29<inkbottle>usage?
18:29<inkbottle>ok
18:29<DRichards>Yeah, that's it. Didn't even think to check that.
18:29<DRichards>No room left.
18:29<DRichards>Sorry guys, but thanks for the help!
18:29<yukiame[m]>still can't close this shitty app
18:30<inkbottle>waht app?
18:30<yukiame[m]>this riot
18:30<yukiame[m]>makes me riot
18:30<yukiame[m]>pesky persistent crap
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18:58<ap4lmtree>hi. is there a way to find out directory space by just the subdirectories but only to one level and not more than that
18:59<retrospectacus>du --max-depth=1
18:59<ap4lmtree>thanks
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19:06<Ecko>Hi there
19:06<Ecko>I've made my first IPtables config with iptables-persistent, anyone can tell me if it's correct ? http://pastebin.com/pjnsBVK0
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19:09<Ecko>syntax and I want my ssh server and my ftp just accessible by xx.xx.xx.xx , yy.yy.yy.yy and zz.zz.zz.zz
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19:20<Ecko>anyone ? :(
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19:44<inkbottle>When one says "graphical install", does that mean that the installer is going to install a graphical environment?
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19:45<Ecko>yup
19:45<tomcres>No, it's the graphical version of the installer itself
19:47<tomcres>The installer is basically the same but you have the use of the mouse and it looks prettier
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19:47<inkbottle>OK
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19:54<missmbob>Ecko: #netfilter is there home
19:54<missmbob>their*
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19:57<inkbottle>When I type locale all the answers are identical and are en_US.UTF-8. How however to to tune it more precisely, like change MONETARY, or MEASUREMENT?
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19:58<inkbottle>Both after install and during
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20:00<missmbob>inkbottle: https://wiki.debian.org/Locale#Measuring_units_and_paper_size
20:01<missmbob>inkbottle: just toss it in your ~/.bashrc to be persistent
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20:02<inkbottle>ok, nice
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20:06<inkbottle>missmbob: ok, so I will tune that after the install is completed; at the moment I am looking for "gparted", in the additional components (install in progress...)
20:07<inkbottle>one another keyboard, hard not to confuse
20:07<inkbottle>on*
20:07<inkbottle>parted-udeb
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20:20<inkbottle>for a partition size, can I type 30GB, or do I have to put sth very specific like 31.2 GB?
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20:20<inkbottle>it accepted 30
20:21<missmbob>inkbottle: yeah 30 is fine
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20:22<missmbob>inkbottle: are you using a real installer or the live iso?
20:22<inkbottle>so now I have free space
20:22<inkbottle>83.9 GB
20:23<inkbottle>I want to put everything in that single partition
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20:24<inkbottle>missmbob: create a new partition? vs. Automatically partition the free space?
20:24<missmbob>inkbottle: normal install just have it automatically
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20:25<inkbottle>missmbob: a real one
20:25<missmbob>yeah i meant not a production server, etc, doesnt really matter
20:25<inkbottle>Now: all files in one partition...
20:26<inkbottle>No: a thinkpad Helix
20:27<inkbottle>everything looks fine...
20:27<missmbob>inkbottle: since debian doesn't have anything on helix, have a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_Helix
20:28<inkbottle>already did
20:29<inkbottle>Someone has installed debian and had said it was quite straightforward and everything was working fine
20:31<tomg>finally!
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20:31<tomg>what an accomplishment! :)
20:31<inkbottle>As for the drivers... I think I'm going to choose "targeted: only include drivers needed for this system"
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20:32<inkbottle>who vote for "targeted"?
20:33<missmbob>yeah
20:33<inkbottle>it is a democratic computer
20:33<inkbottle>ok then
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20:36<inkbottle>There doesn't seem to be an httpredir.debian in the debian mirro part
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20:36<inkbottle>mirror*
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20:36<missmbob>dont use it anyway. it has issues
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20:38<missmbob>!httpredir issues
20:38<dpkg>The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code) or use the <deb.debian.org> CDN. Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>.
20:38<inkbottle>Yess there is one
20:38<missmbob>inkbottle: read above
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20:40<inkbottle>I usually use http.debian.net; what is the CDN thing?
20:40<missmbob>it forwards people to what they think is a close mirror that'll be good
20:40<inkbottle>ok
20:41<sney>they do the same thing with different methods, basically
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20:41<inkbottle>sney: but it isn't in the list... so
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20:43<sney>inkbottle: your sources.list? or is there a pastebin link that I'm missing
20:43<missmbob>installer
20:43<inkbottle>I must select non free software because of the iwlwifi
20:43<inkbottle>sney: no, thanks for asking
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20:44<inkbottle>installation
20:44<sney>oh in the installer. yeah if your preferred mirror isn't in the d-i list then just pick one in your region and change it later
20:44<inkbottle>and saying what I do...
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20:44<inkbottle>OK
20:44<missmbob>inkbottle: there's updated versions of those driver/firmware btw. in jessie-backports
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20:46<inkbottle>can I say no, to the non free software; and later boot on the installer, to add the wifi driver than is missing?
20:46<inkbottle>seems a bit complicated, perhaps
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20:47<inkbottle>I reluctantly say yes
20:47<missmbob>inkbottle: you should've planned ahead since you knew it was iwlwifi. there's an firmware iso with a lot of the firmwares included
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20:48<inkbottle>missmbob: yes, that's what I'm using
20:48<missmbob>inkbottle: oh...then it should just work
20:48<inkbottle>but the installer asks me if I want to intall non free software
20:48<inkbottle>I usually say no
20:48<inkbottle>but here I have to say yes
20:49<inkbottle>Waht RHS will say?
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20:54<inkbottle>I wonder what continue without bootloader would lead to? Ultimately I might want to use "UEFI stub kernel"
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20:55<inkbottle>"continue w/o bootloader"
20:55<missmbob>no. install firmware
20:55<sney>continue without bootloader would mean unbootable system
20:55<sney>you would need to boot via other means
20:55<sney>SGD or rescue mode or whatever
20:56<inkbottle>sney: OK, like usb stick?
20:57<sney>the usb stick would need to have something on it
20:57<missmbob>you want to install uefi
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20:57<inkbottle>yes, of course
20:58<inkbottle>sney: I mean yes, a usb stick like the install one I am presently using
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20:59<sney>yeah, with rescue mode like I just mentioned. but SGD is a better option (supergrubdisk) for boot repair because it doesn't try to run an installer or anything. This is only needed if the installer is unable to install the bootloader itself
20:59<inkbottle>ok
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21:02<inkbottle>missmbob: there is even an on screen keyboard at EFI/not-bios-at-all time
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21:02<inkbottle>1073 of 1405
21:02<inkbottle>1073 is very big
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21:21<k-man>oh, so there is a new tool called "apt"?
21:21<k-man>by some definition of "new"
21:21<sney>yeah, introduced with jessie
21:21<k-man>you learn something new every day!
21:21<missmbob>it's only really good with stretch's version
21:21<k-man>ooh, looks quite nice
21:22<k-man>ah ok
21:22<sney>fewer keystrokes for 'apt upgrade' in any version
21:22<k-man>yeah
21:22<k-man>and fancy colour progress bar too
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21:25<inkbottle>EFI: https://paste.debian.net/913486/
21:25<inkbottle>I think the EFI must be well written :)
21:26<inkbottle>I think anybody with his mind would go straight to EFI
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21:27<inkbottle>I think I do have my mind, so...
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21:28<inkbottle>My EFI, is definitely not buggy
21:28<inkbottle>granted
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21:29<inkbottle>OK, I selected the full EFI way
21:29<k-man>is there tab completion for apt?
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21:30<ihernandez>Hi!!
21:30<k-man>hi ihernandez
21:31<tomcres>K-man: in stretch
21:31<k-man>starting to feel the itch to upgrade to stretch now
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21:32<tomcres>Still a couple hundred critical bugs. I myself am going to wait.
21:32<k-man>how long does the full freeze usually last?
21:32<k-man>tomcres, good idea
21:33<k-man>i like to keep my desktop the same as my server
21:33<inkbottle>Installation is complete, so it is time to boot into your new system. Make sure...
21:33<k-man>just to keep things as close as possible
21:33<tomcres>2 to 6 months ...depending on how fast the bugs get squashed
21:33<k-man>tomcres, thanks
21:34<k-man>https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
21:34<k-man>nice looking graph
21:34<tomcres>!stretch pool 1
21:34<dpkg>! nauticalnexus=2017-04-19 cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbīlen=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themíll=2017-05-01
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21:34<k-man>what does that mean?
21:34<tomcres>Predictions for stretch release
21:35<k-man>interesting
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21:36<inkbottle>sney: missmbob: Debian 8 started on Thinkpad Helix; touchscreen working...
21:36<missmbob>inkbottle: yay
21:37<inkbottle>keyboard, touchpad, working
21:37<k-man>nice!
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21:40<inkbottle>network, wifi, working, yess
21:41<sney>!congratulate inkbottle
21:41<dpkg>Nice one inkbottle, you did it!
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21:42<inkbottle>I've got the picture of "adele", famous because it is her that you see when you type hello in google
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21:43<inkbottle>sney: I try to shake the confetti out
21:47<inkbottle>I just have resize the aptitude terminal, by double tapping then pulling with the touchpad; can't imagine that existed
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21:49<inkbottle>Any idea about an onscreen keyboard? I have an external keyboard, but then, onscreen keyboard can be handy
21:50<missmbob>inkbottle: gok and others. https://wiki.debian.org/TabletAndTouchScreen
21:51<inkbottle>thanks
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22:00<inkbottle>I was busy using the wacom stylus in Xournal.
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22:08<crackotage>Hey everybloody!
22:08<sney>hi
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22:09<crackotage>For once I actually have a "support" question and not a "about debian but not about support" question/comment.
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22:10<crackotage>It's not that important but it's an annoyance. My camera isn't detected in cheese, guvcview.... but it's in lsusb. I'm using suncorp somethnig or other. Sorry to bore. Anyway the internet has a bunch of ways to "possibly" make it detect my camera, none work. So I'm wondering if you fine gentlemen and gentlebots know what keys I should mash
22:11<tomg>not boring. I don't know, does it show up in gtkam?
22:11<tomg>gphoto2? gimp-gtkam?
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22:15<crackotage>In other news only 280 critical release bugs left in stretch! Yay!
22:15<crackotage>nope
22:15<crackotage>It's not a hardware error because when I first got this computer it worked. after some update it didn't
22:15<crackotage>In fact I have a single picture of myself I took in cheese.
22:15<crackotage>I'll paste the error
22:15<crackotage>** Message: cheese-application.vala:211: Error during camera setup: No device found
22:15<crackotage>(cheese:8187): cheese-CRITICAL **: cheese_camera_device_get_device_node: assertion 'CHEESE_IS_CAMERA_DEVICE (device)' failed
22:15<crackotage>Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.
22:15<crackotage>Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
22:15<crackotage>Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
22:15<crackotage>Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1bcf:2c17 Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc.
22:15<crackotage>Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
22:15<crackotage>oh, yeah that's my uname.
22:15<crackotage>sunplus is the camera
22:15<sney>"it worked before" is not the same as "it's not a hardware problem"
22:15<crackotage>Before I install those packs and uninstall them, why would they work if the others don't?
22:15<sney>also don't paste things in the channel.
22:16<crackotage>yes I'm supposed to use pastbin aren't I?
22:16<sney>there are lots of sites you can use.
22:16<tomg>try it from Debian Live sometime?
22:16<tomg>what whatever version you installed from, see if it works there? try creating a test user account?
22:16<tomg>there's paste.debian.net too
22:16<crackotage>Erm, in what order? I'll start with gphoto2
22:18<crackotage>dumb question, how do I run gphoto2 in gtk?
22:18<crackotage>right now it just works in cli and I don't detect an app launcher
22:19<crackotage>gimp gtkam doesn't exist
22:19<crackotage>I've tried it from grml
22:20<crackotage>It has nothing to do with my user setup
22:20<crackotage>gphoto2 has the same error
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22:20<tomg>crackotage, I don't know :) gtkam does it I think
22:20<tomg>I still think you should try the Debian Live or secondary user idea
22:20<tomg>the package is gtkam-gimp
22:20<tomg>though I don't know if it will help
22:21<tomg>I am using stretch
22:21<abrotman>crackotage: what is uname -r ?
22:21<abrotman>crackotage: what does dmesg say when you unplug/replug?
22:21<crackotage>well you're not omniscient of course. I do appreciate the help immensely though/
22:21<crackotage>Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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22:21<crackotage>I uname -a'd for good measure
22:22<crackotage>I'm using jessie
22:22<abrotman>I'd probably try a kernel from backports
22:23<crackotage>eep.
22:24<crackotage>dmesg has one error, [12934.127017] ath: phy0: Failed to stop TX DMA, queues=0x002!
22:24<crackotage>
22:24<crackotage>irrelevant though
22:24<crackotage>it's a wifi driver thing
22:25<tomg>that's a wifi ..yeah
22:25<tomg>I don't know, I can't help much right now anyway
22:25<crackotage>you are helping :)
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22:45<georgia>sorry compy reboot
22:45<georgia>oh, woops
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22:47<georgia>dammit now it won't let me change my nickname
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22:55<xyzone>I've seen the upgrade of kodi package to 17.0 but is kodi-inputstream-adaptive missing? This is needed for its new DASH feature.
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22:56<somiaj>,v kodi
22:56<judd>Package: kodi on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 16.1+dfsg1-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:17.0~rc3+dfsg1-2; stretch: 2:17.0~rc3+dfsg1-2; experimental: 2:17.0+dfsg1-1; jessie-multimedia: 5:14.2+repack-dmo1b2; sid-multimedia: 5:17.0-dmo3
22:57<somiaj>xyzone: check the changelog in /usr/share/doc/kodi, might mention some of the changes
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23:00<xyzone>somiaj, no mention of that feature. seems it was just left out.
23:00<inkbottle>sney: missmbob: it works really really well, Florence keyboard is both working and very convenient. The stylus makes many things that would be difficult to do with fingers, possible to do though
23:00<somiaj>did you check the upstream changelog as well as the debian one xyzone ?
23:00<inkbottle>It seems overall very usable
23:01<xyzone>somiaj, I checked the changelog, no mention of input stream adaptive.
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23:01<inkbottle>not at all a toy
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23:01<somiaj>also which version do you have, I only see version 16 in jessie-backports
23:01<xyzone>somiaj, 17 on debian testing
23:01<inkbottle>I will be going, now
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23:02<somiaj>xyzone: ahh okay, I am not that familar with kodi, but you can also find info in bugreports sometimes. Or use apt-file or packages.debian.org to search for that file name and see if it is assoicated with any packages.
23:02<xyzone>somiaj, I already have and found nothing.
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23:02<xyzone>I am missing something or it's just an oversight. or maybe it's proprietary code? I doubt it but perhaps.
23:03<somiaj>yea I'm not finding anything either.
23:03<somiaj>info about that should be in the package if it was removed from the source. It could have also just not been enabled at the build. Here again I'm unsure.
23:03<xyzone>somiaj, It was not removed. It's a new feature in version 17. It's the big new feature.
23:04<somiaj>that dfsg in the package name says debian had to modify/repackage the source to meet dsfg guidelines
23:04<somiaj>it should be documented what was changed to make it dsfg compliant.
23:04<xyzone>well if it's proprietary hopefully deb-multimedia will pick it up.
23:04<somiaj>I would just install it locally/package it yourself, dmo is known to cause troubles.
23:05<somiaj>(well deb-multimedia.org -- there is a deb-multimedia team which is different)
23:05<xyzone>it's very time consuming, esp. when considering updates.
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23:07<xyzone>I know deb-multimedia.org causes problems for some, but imo, a bigger problem is missing software.
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23:09<somiaj>under the copyright it lists the excluded files
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23:15<somiaj>I'm not finding much under google, seems like a plugin and the source on .git has a debian/ directory, migth be able to build the plugin for debian from git if needed.
23:15<somiaj>but that is all I saw, not mention of that and Debian (at least by that name)
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