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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-02-09

---Logopened Thu Feb 09 00:00:37 2017
00:02-!-stewew [~Admin@c-2c1be555.018-229-6f72651.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
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00:20-!-chihchun is "Rex Tsai" on #osm-tw #osm-dev #lxde #dot #debian-zh #debian #debconf18-taiwan #debconf
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00:46-!-jm_ is "." on #debian #debian-ops
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00:47-!-phylophyl is "realname" on #linode #debian-next #debian #freedombox
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00:54-!-jrms is "Jeremías" on #debian #debian-ar
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01:00-!-funnel is "funnel" on #xen #vserver #virt #uml #tor #suckless #smuxi #sd #qemu #pwmt #powerdns #perl #pentadactyl #ovirt #openttd #openbox #oftc #munin #moocows #monkeysphere #mm #mci #linuxfs #linode #kvm #kernelnewbies #igloo #gcc #gc-linux #freedombox @#exvm #ext4 #dzen #debian #debian-mentors #debian-it #debian-ipv6 #debian-hurd #debian-glibc #debian-fr #debian-boot #debian-arm #davical @#cursive #ck #ceph #bitlbee #awesome #apparmor @#antlr #acal
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01:00-!-rootbeer is "rootbeer" on #whonix #lartc #C #msys2 #debian-derivatives #debian-ftp #debian-www #debian-ctte #debian-lts #kgb-devel #alioth #debian-qa #debian-mentors #debian-bugs #debian-offtopic #debian #debian-next #bash-completion #debian-3dprinting #debian-68k #debian-amd64 #debian-alpha #debian-apache #debian-apt #debian-arm #debian-bluetooth #debian-boinc #debian-boot
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01:04-!-mpl0de is "Nikolay" on #debian
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01:04-!-shunzero is "shunzero" on #debian-es #debian
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01:05-!-fredlima is "Frederico Lima" on #debian #debian-l10n-br #debian-br
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01:06-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:07-!-meepmeep is "meepmeep" on #munin #debian-systemd #debian #bitlbee
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01:15-!-psychi[m] is "@psychi:matrix.org" on #debian
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01:27-!-fstd_ is "fstd" on #gentoo #linuxfs #gcc #awesome #oftc #vserver #suckless #osm #linode #debian #kernelnewbies
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01:28-!-JanC_ is "Jan Claeys" on #apparmor #debian #debian-derivatives #debian-nl #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #linux-nfs #quodlibet #debian-fonts #bcache
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01:30-!-amiconn_ is "Jens" on #debian #debian-next
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01:30-!-nowhere_man is "Pierre Thierry" on #concatenative #emacs #git #erights #lisp #debian-kde #debian
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01:31-!-Vollstrecker is "Werner Mahr" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:31-!-Jens-Rex is "Jens Rex" on #debian
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01:31-!-raf is "Raf Pauwels" on #freedombox #debian
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01:32-!-meminemy__ is "Alfred Egger,,," on #debian #fai
01:32-!-eightdot_ [~eightdot@customer-212-084-140-031.solcon.nl] has joined #debian
01:32-!-eightdot_ is "Unknown" on #debian #limesco-support #limesco #kosagi #nurds
01:32-!-tobi_ [~tobi@p54BB72BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:32-!-tobi_ is "Tobias Frost" on #debian-keyring #debian-mia #debian-ftp #debian-bootstrap #debconf #debian #debian-games #debian-mentors
01:32-!-Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> helix.oftc.net quits: JanC, psychi[m], gbo, fstd, arand, mzf, amiconn, raf_, tobi, eu, (+23 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
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01:33-!-bolt is "-" on #awesome #virt #debian-next #debian #sd #oftc #qemu #suckless
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01:34-!-wompa is "Tomas Heikkilä" on #debian-next #debian #debian-offtopic #linux
01:34-!-sunilmohan_ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-reproducible #debian-js #debian-boot #debian #debian-webapps #freedombox #debian-arm #debian-blends #debian-in #monkeysphere #pere #osdg-iiith
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01:34-!-stderr is "Povl Ole Haarlev Olsen" on #debian #debian-mentors #spi @#stderr @#tzdata-javascript
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01:34-!-meminemy___ is "Alfred Egger,,," on #debian #fai
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01:35-!-gbo is "gbo" on #debian #smuxi
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01:35-!-meepmeep is "meepmeep" on #munin #debian-systemd #debian #bitlbee
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01:39-!-arand is "Martin Erik Werner" on #debian-mentors #debian #debian-games #debian-next
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01:42-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian #debianppc
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01:58-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian #debianppc
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02:07-!-dhanesh95 is "Dhanesh Sabane" on #debian-offtopic #kernelnewbies #debian-welcome #debian-mentors #debian-meeting #debian-in #debian-desktop #debian-bugs #debian
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02:31-!-Yst is "Yst Dawson" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #tor #debian
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02:36-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on #debian-outreach @#debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
02:40-!-JanC [~janc@ip-81-11-165-127.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #debian
02:40-!-JanC is "Jan Claeys" on #apparmor #debian #debian-derivatives #debian-nl #epfsug #ext4 #linuxfs #linux-nfs #quodlibet #debian-fonts #bcache
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02:41-!-dhanesh95_ is "Dhanesh Sabane" on #debian-offtopic #kernelnewbies #debian-welcome #debian-mentors #debian-meeting #debian-in #debian-desktop #debian-bugs #debian
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02:45-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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02:45-!-sewi2go is "unset" on #debian #smuxi
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02:45-!-stewew is "purple" on #debian @#electrum
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02:47-!-narcan is "Denis Briand" on #debian-mentors #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian
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02:53-!-Gabrielee is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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02:57-!-Raineer is "Raineer" on #debian-perl #debian-owncloud
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02:59-!-srtu is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
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03:16-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-nordic #debian.se #debian-next
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03:28-!-tubber is "Your Name" on #debian #ovirt #smuxi
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03:33-!-jmux is "Jan-Marek Glogowski" on #debian
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03:43-!-pamaury_ is "Amaury Pouly" on #oftc #debian #debian-next #debian-kde
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03:55-!-amacater is "Andrew M.A. Cater" on #debian-hams #debian-arm #debian-cd #debian-efi #debian
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04:06<crackotage>Anyone here using stretch?
04:07<itd>crackotage: #debian-next
04:08<crackotage>there's a channel for everything.
04:08<crackotage>and no one is there.
04:08<crackotage>no one active I mean
04:10<TotallyNotKim>define not active
04:10<TotallyNotKim>'cause we don't chatter arround?
04:10<itd>crackotage: Yes, there is. Be patient and ask smart questions.
04:10<crackotage>Are you implying I would ask a stupid question? :/
04:10<TotallyNotKim>Im looking at almost every question in here if it does not look like trash
04:11<itd>dpkg: ask
04:11<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
04:11<TotallyNotKim>We would know if you would have asked
04:11<crackotage>It's not a question... I'm just wondering if I should upgrade. I wanted others opinions...
04:12<crackotage>Now it sounds trivial...
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04:12<TotallyNotKim>see
04:12<TotallyNotKim>here we go
04:12<itd>crackotage: Much better. :)
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04:13<TotallyNotKim>If you dont really have a need to upgrade, I would wait till stretch is stable
04:13<crackotage>:) Is there any inherent virtue in delayed gratification?
04:13<TotallyNotKim>official "stable", not saying it's unstable at the moment
04:14<itd>crackotage: I'm sure there is a channel that can answer you that question. ;) I would also suggest that you wait.
04:14<crackotage>I know, I know. testing is pretty stable esp after hard freeze
04:14<crackotage>stretch has less than 1/2 the release-crit bugs of jessie. Does that make stretch "more" stable in some way?
04:15<TotallyNotKim>well you could see it that way
04:15<TotallyNotKim>but depends on the nature of the bugs
04:16<crackotage>"release critical" apparently means the affected packages are dangerous without fixing
04:17<crackotage>or don't work.
04:17<crackotage>By the way, TNK, are you or are you not Kim?
04:19<TotallyNotKim>Toally not.
04:19<crackotage>Gotcha.
04:19<crackotage>There should be a channel for wnpp. I need a place to bitch about rstudio not being in debian.
04:20<crackotage>I HATE OUTSOURCING PACKAGES.
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04:21<TotallyNotKim>maybe #debian-offtopic, but try to keep this channel to support requests only please
04:21<TotallyNotKim>there is a channel for everything.
04:21<TotallyNotKim>;)
04:21<crackotage>;) so you just stay here waiting to help people?
04:21<crackotage>Thank you for your service to our distro.
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04:22<TotallyNotKim>ay. On a secondary screen, standing by for requests o7
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04:25<crackotage>My integrated webcam isn't detected by cheese/guvcview/gtkam et al. But it's found by lsusb. It's a Sunplus. Now I say this tentatively because it has been this way for months and I've scoured the internets for solutions, I don't really use my webcam but it would be nice to get full functionality off my computer.
04:27<crackotage>When I first got the computer the camera was detected, so it's presumably a software problem. Also I don't have a "camera" function key.
04:27<jm_>I remember having to tell a USB module for a webcam with USB ID it should handle back then
04:27<jm_>-with
04:27<crackotage>how would I go about doing that?
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04:28<jm_>I am not saying that's your issue, just what I ran into many years ago
04:28<rican-linux>I am not able to see all my photos in shotwell that are on my iphone and Files errors when I try to moun it. Has anyone else ran into this?
04:28<rican-linux>*mount
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04:29<crackotage>Which photos aren't you able to see?
04:29<crackotage>Or are they arbitrarily ommited?
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04:30<TotallyNotKim>rican-linux: ios is compatible with iphones?
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04:30<TotallyNotKim>or do they use some mdp(?) stuff
04:30<crackotage>pretty sure ios is the name of the iphone operating system
04:30<rican-linux>yes
04:31<crackotage>Is there some sort of prompt your phone gives, like "permission to access this device"...
04:31<rican-linux>yup and I do give it permission
04:32<crackotage>Is this a shotwell problem or a general problem? Like can you get the files onto your computer another way?
04:32<jm_>maybe try to find your webcam here first http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/
04:32<crackotage>will do
04:33<jm_>another useful page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/webcam_setup
04:34<crackotage>arch has a great wiki. I wish we had one like that.
04:34<rican-linux>there is an app on my iphone that I can reach my photos via web browser. However When I was running whezy I could mount, transfer all my photos, and see music in rhythumbox. I started seeing these issues in Stretch and Sid
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04:35<rican-linux>I am not sure if the problem is with libimobiledevice6 or something else
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04:35<rican-linux>I looked in BTS and did see an outstanding bug report that us similar to what I am seeing. So I am thinking it could be something that I am issing
04:35<rican-linux>*missing
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04:36<rican-linux>correction I did not see a bug in BTS
04:36<TotallyNotKim>im not familiar with iOS and do not know much about the synchronization but that it's a pain in the ***
04:36<TotallyNotKim>maybe I could look into it in a few hrs
04:36<rican-linux>I agree
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04:36<TotallyNotKim>but have to deal with a customer right now
04:37<itd>rican-linux: Are you on jessie or on stretch?
04:37<rican-linux>thank you like I said it was working in whezy, but a lot has changed since I know
04:37<rican-linux>ok
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04:37<rican-linux>right now I am on Sid on my personal and Stretch on my work laptop
04:37<rican-linux>both have the same issue
04:38<rican-linux>technically I am pulling from testing repos on my work laptop
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04:43<itd>rican-linux: iOS10?
04:43<crackotage>my device isn't on either page :( 1bcf:2c17
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04:43<rican-linux>yeah 10.2.1
04:45<jm_>wonder how it worked back then
04:46<itd>rican-linux: I don't know what kind of errors you receive, but see e.g. https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice/issues/445
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04:47<rican-linux>looking thanks
04:49<itd>rican-linux: They have a channel #libimobiledevice on freenode.net
04:49<rican-linux>thanks again!
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06:32<EmleyMoor>I am looking for a USB audio capture device and am seeking information on whether the input level is adjustable in Linux. Currently thinking of a Citronic AC-1USB - anyone familiar?
06:34<jm_>I have USB headset from logitech and I can adjust audio levels as for other cards using alsamixer
06:35<peter1138>totally depends on the device
06:35<EmleyMoor>jm_: Sadly that doesn't help much. I own a Behringer UCA222 on which the level is non-adjustable and for some reason has now gone very low.
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06:35<jm_>yeah doesn't susprise me with USB
06:35<EmleyMoor>peter1138: Hence my query...
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07:50<Timeskull>salut _aeris_
07:50<_aeris_>o/
07:53<Timeskull>_aeris_ comment ça va ?
07:53<_aeris_>bien et toi ?
07:53<Timeskull>niquel
07:54<Timeskull>_aeris_ tu n as pas eu ma notice ?
07:54<_aeris_>a priori non :P
07:55<grove>!chat
07:55<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
07:55<grove>!fr
07:55<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debianfr.
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09:24<luis_>Hey people, a question: I get there's backports, to support newer stuff in older Debian, but what about the inverse? Something like a "forwardports" to keep older software working in newer Debian?
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09:25<luis_>I've been missing a good way to keep support tor MySQL 5.1 and PHP 5.5/5.6, so far the only way I have is to remain in eg.: Squeeze+LTS.
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09:27<tomcres>You can hold those packages, so they remain at the installed versions while everything else gets upgraded.
09:27<luis_>tomcres: the problem is these packages are not available in the first place (say, in Jessie / Stretch)
09:28<luis_>I tried building MySQL 5.1 from source, but it required me to downgrade Perl, which attempting to practically takes down the entire system. So I don't think building from source is any feasible.
09:29<luis_>Or I'd have to compile Perl from source, but at that point why not just keep a whole separate old OS installed, which circles back to the source (heh) of the problem
09:30<luis_>One of the options I was researching was debootstrap, which would apparently allow me to keep an "old" Debian chroot in a current system?
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09:32<tomcres>That should work assuming no kernel incompatibilities.
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09:36<luis_>Hmmm sounds worth to try. Was just checking the wiki and it looks relatively easy to setup.
09:37<blast007>luis_: do note that squeeze LTS support ended in February of 2016, so there are likely to be vulnerabilities
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09:38<luis_>blast007: I am aware. One of the reasons I want to move to Stretch (or Jessie) is to minimize the risk somewhat. Alas, I'm not the one responsible for upgrading the web platform to MySQL 5.5.
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09:39<luis_>(Minimizing risk *and* being able to work with already existing Stretch / Jessie infrastructure)
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09:49<inkbottle>Hi, how can I check for the presence of some unexpected shutdown (crash?) during the past few hours?
09:50<tomcres>Run top and look at your uptime
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09:50<blast007>or just run 'uptime' :)
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09:53<inkbottle>Ok, but them I sould have to know whether it is regular shutdown like for energy saving reason; or plain crash (and then find why)
09:57<blast007>I would think that the uptime wouldn't reset just because your system went to sleep/hibernation
09:57<inkbottle>ok
09:58<luis_>I seem to remember uptime pauses while suspended, not sure about hibernated. But don't quote me on that.
09:59<inkbottle>So my computer did actually crash, and then I have to look for signs of it...
09:59<blast007>yeah, I'd imagine it might stop counting up, but I'm only used to servers, so I haven't experienced that :)
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10:07<luis_>inkbottle, look for the logs in /var/log, depending on what you suspect as source of the crash.
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10:08<inkbottle>luis_: I found the culprit:...
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10:09<inkbottle>Hibernation image partition 8:7 present // looking for hibernation inage. // Image not found (code -22) // Hibernation himage not present or coud not be loaded
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10:11<inkbottle>I wonder if it would be working better if I'd switched to "stretch"?
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10:48<luis_>hmmmm is aptitude still the CLI GUI (wow it feels weird typing that) for apt, or is there a new one?
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10:49<tomcres>Aptitude is still around. There's also apt now.
10:50<tomcres>Oh, you said gui. Yeah, just Aptitude and dselect them.
10:50<inkbottle>tomcres: do you mean apt more recent than aptitude?
10:50<tomcres>*then
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10:51<tomcres>Apt is new with Jessie, but it doesn't have a gui mode
10:52<inkbottle>I thought apt was here for ever.
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10:52<inkbottle>and aptitude was the new guy
10:53<tomcres>Apt the command I mean, not apt the system
10:53<luis_>I don't know if I'm more confused or less confused :p
10:53<inkbottle>more confused
10:53<luis_>so, aptitude is the CLI GUI for apt-get, for which apt (the command) is the new and improved shiny?
10:54<tomcres>There's a new command in Jessie called apt which serves as a front end to apt-get and apt - cache
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10:55<luis_>ooooh
10:55<inkbottle>yes I just did "nam apt"
10:55<inkbottle>man*
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10:55<inkbottle>I didn't know there was sth called that name
10:56<inkbottle>I'm happy with aptitude
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11:05<luis_>I like aptitude a lot too
11:06<luis_>IMO aptitude >>> apt-get > synaptic et al
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11:46<txt-file>I tried to vmdebootstrap stretch on my wheezy box. Sadly it fails when installing systemd-sysv https://paste.debian.net/913570/
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12:51<aum>i used the package installer in mx tools to down load tor an keep getting cant verify signatures keys ? what gives
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12:53<somiaj>aum: you mean you downloaded the torbrowser-launcher package?
12:53<somiaj>,v torbrowser-launcher
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12:53<judd>Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; jessie-backports/contrib: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 0.2.6-3; sid/contrib: 0.2.6-3
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12:54<somiaj>The version from jessie-backports may work better, I've seen others have similar issues about verifying signatures on the jessie version
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12:58<aum>doesn'tit draw on the backports ill set repositories but ive done reloaded several says i might be under attack or net work problems
12:58<washington09>Could anyone help me with installing Chipsec drivers
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12:59<somiaj>aum: you have to specify to install packages from backports each time
12:59<mtn>washington09: driver for what?
12:59<aum>yes the package installer in mx16s tools
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13:00<aum>i haven't yet set backports in repositores
13:00<aum>yet but will try thanks
13:01<mtn>washington09: driver for what device?
13:02<washington09>mtn: it's for chipsec actually
13:02<somiaj>aum: are you running debian or some derivative? I don't nkow mx-tools but I don't get many debian related info on that.
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13:02<somiaj>!mxlinux
13:02<mtn>washington09: isn't chipsec for intel devices? please be specific which device you are installing drivers for
13:02<washington09>mtn: yes for intel devices, https://github.com/chipsec
13:03<somiaj>!mx-14
13:03<dpkg>antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
13:03<washington09>can be installed on Linux, but I got a question about win
13:03<mtn>washington09: you don't want to say which device you have?
13:03<somiaj>aum: anyways, it appears you are not running debian, my info may not work, you should really get support from the linux disto you have chosen to use.
13:03<washington09>mtn: for my Lenovo Ideapad
13:03<washington09>mtn: I'm running Windows, so maybe pm?
13:03<mtn>washington09: sigh. what part of it? graphics? wireless? etc. etc.
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13:04<mtn>washington09: no. I don't do pms or support windows
13:04<washington09>mtn: ok
13:04<washington09>mtn: perhaps you could tell me how to install the drivers for linux?
13:04<mtn>washington09: there are other channels for windows support
13:04<aum>ok let me be dumb so howhow do i do that re down loadeit or re insatall it from package installer
13:04<washington09>mtn: which one? I want to join
13:04<mtn>washington09: many different ways. like I said: drivers for which device?
13:05<washington09>mtn: for my Lenovo Ideapad running Intel Motherboard
13:05<mtn>washington09: it is most likely you do not need to install any drivers.
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13:05<mtn>washington09: what does not work?
13:05<washington09>mtn: um, yeah. http://pastebin.com/iktYGJq6
13:06<somiaj>aum: since you are not running debian, we don't know what the best way to get it working in your distro is.
13:06<aum>an sorry it is comming from jessie backports
13:06<mtn>washington09: linux is not windows. you usually have no need to install drivers and never from websites
13:06<tomcres1>!based on debian
13:06<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
13:06<mtn>washington09: almost never
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13:06<aum>running mx16
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13:08<somiaj>aum: but you are not running debian, so there is no way we can know if packages made for debian jessie will work on your system, and we don't want to support it. Use the support community for mx16
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13:09<aum> aplogizeisorry an will try else where an will try else
13:10<washington09>mtn: where would the Windows support IRC channel be?
13:10<somiaj>washington09: ##windows on irc.freenode.net is one
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13:10<washington09>somiaj: ok
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13:51<yulax>hi, i was wondering if there is currently a database of hashes for debian packages?
13:52<yulax>i'm thinking of having a build server (for various reasons) and I'd like to be able to compare the hashes to official packages?
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13:56<minikdo>hi, i'm on 8.7, my network-manager 0.9.10.0-7 doesn't prompt for passwords while connecting to wifi. Does anyone know what to do with it?
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14:04<txt-file>minikdo, Happened to me too. Was an problem that some (recommended) dependency of network-manager-gnome was not installed.
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14:05<txt-file>IIRC installing gnome-keyring helped.
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14:09<amacater>yulak - read up on Debian reproducible builds project - hashes are available, I think.
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14:14<minikdo>txt-file: installing gnome-keyring help! Thanks!
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14:16<minikdo>Guys, is it possible to install both i386 and amd64 debian-installers on one pendrive on seperate partitions and boot them with grub?
14:18<txt-file>minikdo, Did you try http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.1/multi-arch/iso-cd/ ?
14:18<txt-file>hmmm … in the older days the multi-arch was x86, amd64 and powerpc.
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14:19<minikdo>txt-file: i'm looking into this
14:19<txt-file>to bad that powerPC got dropped.
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14:23<minikdo>txt-file: cool! Can I have more installers on one partition and boot them accordingly to the architecture?
14:24<txt-file>not that I'm aware of.
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14:52<ars_trel>Preparing to unpack .../libpam-modules_1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libpam-modules:amd64 (1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2) over (1.1.8-3.1+deb8u1+b1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libpam-modules_1.1.8-3.1+deb8u2_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/man/man8/pam_exec.8.gz', which is different from other instances of package libpam-modules:amd64 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was
14:53<ars_trel>I have both i386 and amd64 version of libpam-modules installed
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14:59<Gabriel_7>Hmm, I have a desktop with a Intel CPU+GPU and a nvidia GPU (non optimus). Does anyone know if it's better to: do nothing; or blacklist the intel driver module; or do some other fancy stuff? (assuming I don't want to use the intel GPU).
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15:01<towo`>Gabriel_7, then deactivate the intel gpu in bios
15:02<Gabriel_7>The BIOS does not have the option to do that.
15:03<Gabriel_7>You can only choose the default card AFAIU with this BIOS.
15:03<amacater>Bumblebee ?
15:03<Gabriel_7>Bumblebee is for optimus.
15:03<blast007>some of them disable the integrated if you tell it to initialize the PCIe card first - have you tried?
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15:04<Gabriel_7>Actually both solution work flawlessly.
15:04<amacater>Actually, blast007 probably has it right
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15:05<Gabriel_7>If ask to BIOS to init the PCIe first, the intel driver module is still loaded.
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15:05<Gabriel_7>(Which is not a problem.)
15:05<towo`>that what's your problem?
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15:06<Gabriel_7>The question was more "is there any difference ?" (power consumption ...)
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15:06<towo`>no
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15:06<towo`>and if you want, then blacklist i915
15:06<blast007>could also replace the CPU with one that doesn't have an integrated GPU ;)
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15:08<Gabriel_7>yes :)
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15:56<minikdo>Guys, I have a DLS modem with 5 IPs. I'd like to setup ifconfig for those additional IPs on the same eth card. I've tried with ifconfig eth0:1 IP2 but I doesn't work. Any ideas? Thanks ;-)
15:56<minikdo>*DSL
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16:10<ars_trel>I don't think that's the correct syntax for ifconfig
16:10<ars_trel>eth0:1 is the correct thing to use (assuming your main ip is on eth0)
16:11<ars_trel>@minikdo try editing /etc/network/interfaces (assuming that what you are using for eth0)
16:11<retrospectacus>https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_one_Interface
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16:20<minikdo>ars_trel: yes, my DSL is on eth0
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16:30<jurek4321>Hey
16:31<jurek4321>is there any debian live with awesome available ?
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16:32<mtn>all debian disks have lots of awesome in them ;)
16:32<jurek4321>awesome wm
16:32<jurek4321>:)
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16:34<mtn>jurek4321: did you look here? https://www.debian.org/CD/live/
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16:35<jurek4321>ok but there is only GNOME, KDE, LXDE, Xfce, Cinnamon and MATE
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16:37<ars_trel>I don't have a direct answer, but look for a live distribution that allows you to customize it with additional packages
16:37<amacater>So you can boot any one of them - including the command line only version - make a persistent partition and then install awesome - or you can build a custom live CD
16:37<amacater>to be honest, lxde / xfce are probably a good start to go from.
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16:39<jurek4321>thanks
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17:08<tainted_blood>wazup bitchies
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17:12<dpkg>debian is probably http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
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22:27<ihernandez>Hi! A pretty miscellaneous question... I have just upgraded from jessie to stretch and would like to return the whole system to something close to a netinstall base install
22:28<ihernandez>Is there a way to uncruft my system with all the things I installed during the time it has been alive? It was originally wheezy, then upgraded to jessie...
22:28<ihernandez>I could try installing a base on a VM and then using dpkg --get-selections / dpkg --set-selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade, but maybe there is some other way
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22:39<yulax>just delete old packages?
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22:40<yulax>if i understand you right, you have lots of packages that are unneccessary?
22:40<yulax>e.g. from wheezy then aren't in recent debian?
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22:44<ihernandez>also, my default desktop has been a mix of xfce and windowmaker
22:44<ihernandez>and would love to try something like cinnamon and gnome3 just to se how the things look in a modern distribution...
22:45<ihernandez>so purging away everything but the barebones distribution without doing the always scary process of installing without formatting the drive... would be amazing
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22:59<yulax>synaptic
22:59<yulax>list the packages
22:59<yulax>look in each category, delete packages you don't want
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23:01<yulax>probably easiest is to install your desired desktop (test it out on your current system) then remove the other components (in this case xfce) that you would rather not have installed
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23:19<quietone>apt-get upgrade is stuck at unpacking dbus (1.8.22-0+debu1). It has been >10min. What should I do? Jessie
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23:36<ihernandez>yulax, I'll probably do like that. Take a snapshot of my installation with dpkg --get-selections and try installing cinnamon
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