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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-02-12

---Logopened Sun Feb 12 00:00:41 2017
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00:04-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
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00:11<sleser>is gpart gparted ?
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00:12-!-isma is "Ismael Llaves Garces" on #debian-devel-es #debian
00:13<sleser>im trying to get bsd or pcbsd or trueos running on this asus x550ca itwont work keeps booting in to generic bios uefi or efi , reading instrutions falowing this site whitch says about gpart now im not sure if gpart is gparted or where do i get gpart at all
00:13<sleser>bsds will install but after reboot goesto biow
00:13<sleser>bios
00:14<sleser>grubwont work with zfs says something about blocks and pools
00:14<sleser>bsd loader didnt work ether
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00:35<somiaj>sleser: this is #debian, you may want to ask in the approate support channel for the os
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01:56-!-r4f_debian is "Robson Kramer" on #debian
01:56<r4f_debian>Hi all
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01:57-!-isaagar is "I Sagar" on #debian-in #hamara #debian-diaspora #debian-mobile #debian-arm #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-live #debian-azure #debian-boot #libindic
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04:19<vovkav>hi! Is there a single article on what happened to Ian Murdock?
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05:39<juan11>Hello, I am about to buy a laptop, I was analyzing the Dell XPS 15 '. Previously I had a Lenovo ready for windows and it really made me renegade much to configure it. Do you know if the Dell XPS has good compatibility with Debian or Linux in general? Some experience?
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05:45<motes>Hi, I'm trying to make an bootable usb stick for debian but it doesn't work. By making the bootable image I get an error
05:46<motes>motes: any help?
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05:50<xyzone>motes, just use dd
05:50<motes>ok
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05:52<dtw>sudo cp image.iso /dev/disk/by-id/usb-VENDOR-foo; sync
05:53<Brigo>juan11, google will be more helpfull, i think.
05:53<juan11>thanks
05:53<Brigo>motes, just be careful, you hav to copy to the disk not to a partition.
05:54<motes>Brigo, like this: dd bs=4M if=debian-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso f=/dev/sdd1 ?
05:54<Brigo>are helpful and helpfull to different words?
05:54<Brigo>motes, no , of=/dev/sdd without the 1 (that is the first partition)
05:55<Brigo>common mistake
05:55<motes>Brigo, ok
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06:02<motes>Brigo, is now the usb stick mountable
06:02<motes>?
06:02<Brigo>motes, i think so
06:03<motes>Brigo, so why I can't?
06:03<Brigo>motes, how could i know? :)
06:04<Brigo>motes, try fdisk or cfdisk with it and tell me what you find, please.
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08:27<bakboter>hellow #debain
08:29<amacater>Can we help?
08:30<bakboter>was wondering i instaling a non free firmware vesrion ofdebain with kde
08:31<bakboter>and i had to install firefox /qtpass by binnarie
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08:31<bakboter>is it that i am missing some sources or somting ?
08:32<bakboter>i mean thunderbird.
08:33<tomcres>Thunderbird is called icedove in Debian
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08:34<bakboter>is there a list where i can find this strange renames
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08:37<bakboter>tomcres, thanks
08:37<grawity>I thought it got renamed back
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08:38<themill>not yet
08:38<tomcres>AFAIK that's the only one that's still renamed. Firefox used to be called iceweasel, but now it's Firefox again.
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09:06<yokisho_>hi
09:07<yokisho_>i have nvidia gfx 750 ti. I dunno why, the computer is frozen
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09:07<bakboter>does it post to bios ?
09:08<yokisho_>sorry bakboter, is it to me?
09:08<bakboter>yes
09:08<bakboter>or eufi
09:08<yokisho_>eufi
09:08<bakboter>yokisho_, can you run mem test ?
09:09<yokisho_>now?
09:09<bakboter>yes
09:09<yokisho_>do i need to restart?
09:09<bakboter>yokisho_, ur on that pc now
09:10<yokisho_>yes
09:11<bakboter>what version
09:11<yokisho_>Linux debihome 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) x86_64 GNU/Linuxç
09:11<yokisho_>debian 8.7
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09:12<yokisho_>that happens when i use the web browser
09:12<yokisho_>or vlc
09:12<yokisho_>web browser i use: ff and chrome
09:13<bakboter>U HAD THIS ALWAYS ?
09:13<bakboter>sorry caps
09:13<yokisho_>Yes some time ago, i started to have this issue
09:14<yokisho_>but the issue was solved i don't know
09:14<yokisho_>this afternoon the issue appeared again
09:14<yokisho_>i think is a problem of power supply
09:15<yokisho_>i saw the logs in messages
09:17<bakboter>wat u running ?
09:18<yokisho_>Feb 12 13:28:41 debihome kernel: [ 24.613329] NVRM: GPU at PCI:0000:01:00: GPU-9cb7fff1-0ba6-669f-9023-493b63be79a1
09:18<yokisho_>Feb 12 13:28:41 debihome kernel: [ 24.613339] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus.
09:18<yokisho_>Feb 12 13:28:41 debihome kernel: [ 24.613348] NVRM: A GPU crash dump has been created. If possible, please run
09:18<yokisho_>Feb 12 13:28:41 debihome kernel: [ 24.613348] NVRM: nvidia-bug-report.sh as root to collect this data before
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09:19<yokisho_>hi :X
09:19<yokisho_>flooding! :(
09:19<yokisho_>if i start chrome the system will die
09:19<yokisho_>i cannot paste nothing
09:19<towo`>sure you can
09:19<towo`>install pastebinit
09:20<yokisho_>wala! :D
09:20<bakboter>look tittle
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09:21<bakboter>u can msg dpkg paste
09:21<yokisho_>http://paste.debian.net/913977/
09:22<Brigo>yokisho_, it looks like the nvidia driver is crashing, ask them.
09:23<bakboter>maybe pruage drive and reinstall ?
09:23<bakboter>purge *
09:26<lindi-_>bakboter: what would that change?
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09:26<yokisho_>i have just done that bakboter
09:28<bakboter>if it crashing maybe some bug some where or config error purging should get rid of that
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09:31<yokisho_>how can i know the last update i did?
09:33<bakboter>how do you uppdate ?
09:33<yokisho_>manually
09:35<yokisho_>i have seen /var/log/dpkg*
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09:38<yokisho_>no way! xD
09:39<yokisho_>freeze!
09:39<yokisho_>i hate that
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09:43<bakboter>maybe think about trying some form of non grapical mode atm maybe some onboard vga u can use to test
09:44<scootergrisen>How can i find the desktop file used for Firefox ESR?
09:45<scootergrisen>I want to see if there is a translation for my language.
09:45<lindi->scootergrisen: find / -name "*.desktop" | grep -i firefox
09:46<scootergrisen>Yeah but i mean i debian not my computer
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09:46<yokisho_>bakboter, i could try to use it in windows :O
09:47<yokisho_>bakboter, i don't like it too much this idea
09:47<grawity>scootergrisen: apt-cache search, apt-file
09:47<Brigo>scootergrisen, there should be a package like firefox-l10n-uk, or firefox-l10n-ta
09:47<yokisho_>bakboter, this pc has an internal graphic card
09:47<yokisho_>bakboter, but it is not the same with this card all goes fast
09:49<lindi->scootergrisen: I guess just download the firefox esr package and extract it from that?
09:50<bakboter>yokisho_, u could try it
09:50<bakboter>then u know
09:50<scootergrisen>Should it be in http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/firefox-esr/firefox-esr_45.7.0esr.orig-l10n-da.tar.bz2 ?
09:51<lindi->scootergrisen: that's part of a source package, I suggest getting the binary package
09:51<scootergrisen>http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/firefox-esr/firefox-esr_45.7.0esr.orig.tar.xz ?
09:51<yokisho_>is there gmail client for command line?
09:52<lindi->scootergrisen: binary packages are the ones named *.deb
09:53<lindi->scootergrisen: "apt-get download firefox-esr"
09:54<yokisho_>nvidia has a beta graphic card drivers, i will try out it
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09:56<scootergrisen>Ok so danish (da) translation is missing in 45.7.0esr-4 is seems.
09:57<scootergrisen>Where are the translation for the desktop files so i can check?
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09:58<yokisho_>damn it! I am just not found it xD
09:59<bakboter>yokisho_, elinks for cli webrowsing
09:59<lindi->scootergrisen: the translations are int he same .desktop file isn't it?
09:59<lindi->scootergrisen: the translations are in the same .desktop file isn't it?
09:59<yokisho_>:)
09:59<yokisho_>i used to use links
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10:04<scootergrisen>I mean where do people translate the string?
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10:06<scootergrisen>Lets say i wanted to add Comment[da] in future version
10:06<scootergrisen>Where would i do that?
10:07<bakboter>github maybe
10:07<grawity>figure out whether the .desktop file is added or patched by the debian package, or taken directly from upstream?
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10:26<scootergrisen>Same problem with FileZilla. So lets say it is added by debian package... How do people add translations?
10:26<scootergrisen>Are the some way i find see missing translations in my language for alle desktop files?
10:27<scootergrisen>How are people that translate these applications suppose to know there is also a desktop files that needs translating?
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10:27<dark>hello
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10:31<dark>i have problem with driver Amd rx470 on second life... is there a guide for installation? I used Ubuntu and Mint , now i use Debian
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10:33<lindi->scootergrisen: I think the .desktop file translations are done by upstream projects
10:34<mtn>dark: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
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10:38<scootergrisen>I translate FileZilla for example and the string "Download and upload files via FTP, FTPS and SFTP" from the desktop file does not appear in the PO fil
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10:40<scootergrisen>String does not appear in https://filezilla-project.org/locales/filezilla.pot
10:40<scootergrisen>Are there some smart way i can check for missing translation for my language in all desktop files and see and overview on the website or something?
10:42<dark>mtn thanks but this guide is not for amd pro?
10:42<mtn>dark: is your card supported by amdpro?
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10:42<dark>mtn yes
10:43<mtn>dark: probably need to follow the instructions on the amd website for that
10:43<scootergrisen>Is it perhaps better to ask FileZilla developer to add string in pot file that can be used to create the desktop file?
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10:44<dark>in the web site amd driver there is driver for ubuntu or mint...
10:44<dark>mtn in the web site amd driver there are only driver for ubuntu or mint...
10:44<mtn>dark: if it is a .deb, it may work on debian. worth testing, right?
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10:46<dark>wtn it's a deb... but when i install driver there are problem of conflitt
10:46<dark>wtn dipendec
10:47<mtn>dark: ok, then it will not work. doesn't the fglrx drive work for your card?
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10:49<dark>mtn yes it's ok...but on second life don't work well --
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10:49<scootergrisen>Do anyone know a command i can run to find all the desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ that does not have translation for [da]? So i end up with a list of files that are missing translation for danish.
10:51<dark>mtn I installed driver on mint and on second life all ok... but i have problems with debian...I don't prefer more mint...
10:51<lindi->scootergrisen: maybe for i in $(find /usr -name "*.desktop"); do if ! fgrep -q "[da]" $i; then echo $i; fi; done
10:52<mtn>dark: which kernel are you using?
10:53<scootergrisen>Sweet :)
10:53<dark>mtn 3.16.0-4- amd64 8.7 Jessie mate 1.8.1 from live cd
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10:53<mtn>dark: amdpro only works with newer distros, older ones still use fglrx. jessie is an old one
10:54<scootergrisen>lindi- thanks a lot
10:54<dark>i understand
10:54<dark>mtn i understand
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10:55<mtn>dark: testing, the next stable, will work with amdpro, I think
10:55<lindi->scootergrisen: ingen problemer :)
10:56<dark>mtn and which ?
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10:56<mtn>dark: and which what?
10:57<dark>mtn which distro recommend
10:57<mtn>dark: do you mean which version of debian?
10:58<dark>mtn yes a distro for test amd pro
10:58<mtn>dark: do you mean distro or do you mean which version of debian? debian is a distro
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10:59<dark>mtn sorry version of debian for test driver amd pro rx470
10:59<dboles_>changing your apt sources to stretch would mean that you get the next version of debian, and stay with it once it's released
10:59<dboles_>changing them to testing/unstable would mean you keep tracking those development versions
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11:00<mtn>dark: well, you can't use it with jessie and you can use it with testing, so.......
11:01<dboles>it's then a question of whether you want to upgrade to the next stable and stay there, or keep tracking testing/unstable versions
11:02<mtn>dark: I assume dboles is talking to you.
11:02<dboles>yup
11:02<dark>mtn yes and on which version recent of debian recommend?
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11:03<r4f_debian>Hi all
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11:04<dark>mtn ah dboles sorry now i read
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11:06<dark>dboles i understand...
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11:06<dboles>dark: great. of course, maybe you want to install a new version rather than upgrading your old one
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11:08<dboles>dark: and in that case, you can download weekly (i think) install images
11:11<dark>dboles I installed debian jessie liove cd becouse there is dm mate... in another disk i have got mint and ubuntu, but stop ubuntu or mint, i want debian, on debian everything simple after 10 years of mandriva, fedora, mint ... but i'm tired and i want a distro stable
11:12<lindi->dark: the live cd part might not be the most stable part of debian
11:12<dboles>dark: ok, sounds like you should install/upgrade to stretch, as that is the next stable version 9, so you'll get your amd pro support (if mtn was correct) but will remain stable once v9 is out, rather than continuing to download testing packages
11:14<dark>dboles i like a distro debian where install amd pro and joke on second life howe mint and ubuntu
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11:14<dboles>are you asking "how are mint and ubuntu"? because your previous message sounded like you wanted to "stop [using] ubuntu or mint"
11:15<vlad1777d>Hello to all. How to exclude from "sudo deborphan --guess-all" packages, that were installed manually ?
11:15<dboles>dar: anyway, i haven't used either, only debian
11:15<dboles>*dark
11:15<vlad1777d>Because I installed many of them manually and don't want ot remove them
11:16<dark>dboles yes i don't like more mint and ubuntu
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11:19<dark>dboles now i installa last version of debian with gnome
11:20<scootergrisen>I see alot og desktop files for xscreensaver but do they ever appear in menus? Like it says OnlyShowIn=MATE; but i dont see them in MATE's menus
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11:21<dboles>dark: yes, stretch with gnome should be good! i use unstable + gnome
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11:22<dark>dboles yes stretch with gnome unstable ... ok thanks
11:22<scootergrisen>It says Type=Application Categories=Screensaver; but i dont see a sub menu called Screensaver in MATE.
11:22<dboles>dark: stretch is now stabilising from testing, and it will become the released version 9 of debian
11:23<dboles>dark: unstable is another version of debian (not gnome), but not considered a stable release, in that its packages are constantly upgraded
11:24<Guest607>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYbTXOWSoai1eH1uCa127Zg subs my linux channel
11:24<dboles>dark: so if i understood you correctly, and you want to use debian but not worry about large upgrades risking your stability all the time, then you should probably install stretch (not testing or unstable)
11:24<dark>dboles yes racoomanded download for cd or dvd?
11:24<dboles>dark: https://www.debian.org/CD/
11:24<Guest607>kali linux is abest i think so
11:25<dboles>that's 2 off topic comments in a row
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11:25<r4f_debian>a kali linux user told me kali project is discontinued
11:25<r4f_debian>the last kali linux .iso is from 2016/02
11:25<Guest607>lol
11:25<r4f_debian>one year ago
11:26<Guest607>i think u gone mad
11:26<dark>dboles yes...
11:26<r4f_debian>not sure about this,Ghest607, but I had this impression too, when accessed kali linux website yesterday
11:27<r4f_debian>and I like kali because it's based on debian
11:27<dark>dboles i want stable
11:27<Guest607>kali is very stable
11:27<mtn>!kali
11:27<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
11:27<Guest607>and arch too
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11:27<mtn>!offtopic
11:27<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
11:27<vlad1777d>Hello to all. How to exclude from "sudo deborphan --guess-all" packages, that were installed manually ?
11:28<dark>dboles thanks and bye
11:28<dboles>dark: you're welcome, good luck!
11:28<Guest607>okkkkk
11:28<r4f_debian>yes, I suspected we would be warned, like mtn did, for we are talking about offtopic subjects, Sorry about that, mtn !
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11:34<r4f_debian>!mate
11:34<dpkg>The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net.
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11:38<r4f_debian>Bye all !
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11:39<trazomtg>hello!
11:39<trazomtg>comment acceder au channel #tor?
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11:40<Guest607>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYbTXOWSoai1eH1uCa127Zg PLZZZ SUBS MY CHANNEL TY GUYS U PPL RE TOO SWEET
11:42<dboles>i'm sure i'm not alone when i say that there is no surer fire way to make me NOT click on a link
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11:45<Guest607>lol tq
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12:02<yokisho_>hi again guys
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12:02<yokisho_>what for?
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12:03<rsd>lol
12:03<trazomtg>to go on internet and use perhaps hidden services
12:03<rsd>u dont know tor
12:04<rsd>??/
12:04<trazomtg>i know what tor does
12:04<rsd>i am saying to yokishtg
12:05<trazomtg>i"d like to surf anonymous
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12:05<rsd>same here bro
12:06<rsd>anyone play coc ?
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12:13<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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13:00<scootergrisen>I want to add danish translation in /usr/share/applications/flash-player-properties.desktop how would i do that? https://packages.debian.org/sid/flashplugin-nonfree
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13:17<lindi->scootergrisen: flash-player-properties.desktop is not part of any debian package
13:18<lindi->scootergrisen: what does dpkg -S /usr/share/applications/flash-player-properties.desktop print?
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13:19<scootergrisen>none found
13:19<lindi->scootergrisen: I think that file comes from adobe
13:20<lindi->scootergrisen: it might not be even legal to modify it without a license
13:21<scootergrisen>Maybe you right it does say stuff about downloading from adobe.com on https://packages.debian.org/sid/flashplugin-nonfree
13:22<scootergrisen>But there are several translation in the file
13:22<lindi->scootergrisen: indeed
13:23<lindi->scootergrisen: non-free is not really part of debian, so you can have pretty odd things there
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13:26<scootergrisen>If i run "sudo apt remove flashplugin-nonfree" then /usr/share/applications/flash-player-properties.desktop was removed
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13:35<tepmurt>Hello guys! While installing gdebi (sudo apt-get install gdebi), the process is asking for a change of media (needed media: Debian GNU/Linux 8.7.1 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20170116-11:01« in drive »/media/cdrom/«)
13:35<tepmurt>How can I install gdebi "normally", without any change of media?
13:36<mtn>tepmurt: fix your sources, so you have more than cds in it.
13:36<mtn>tepmurt: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
13:36<tepmurt>thank you
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13:41<scootergrisen>Strange if i remove flashplugin-nonfree the desktop fil is removed but if i install flashplugin-nonfree again it does not bring the desktop file back
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14:52<scootergrisen>Are there some way to know what applications will be included in Debian in the future so perhaps i can translate then before hand?
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14:54<tobiwankenobi[m]>you could package it yourself and try to get it into debian :)
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14:55<sney>scootergrisen: you can also look in the NEW queue
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15:02<scootergrisen>Do you have link for new queue?
15:03<sney>https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
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18:22<hexa->I have a segfault for tshark from jessie-backports, where can I find the dbgsym packages for that?
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18:42<blast007>hexa-: the wireshark-dbg package perhaps?
18:42<blast007>hmm, which doesn't seem to be in backports
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19:08<k-man>just out of interest is there a programatic way to add and modify sources.list.d files?
19:08<k-man>like an api or something
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19:47<begriffs>I'm considering building a desktop computer from scratch -- is there a list of components known to have perfect Debian compatibility?
19:48<sney>no, but looking up chipset drivers will suit you just fine
19:48<tomcres>Maybe this site is helpful: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
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19:50<begriffs>Nice, thanks.
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20:22<chibill>So I have a question. How do you get openjdk-8-jdk to install on a fresh install of Debian Jessie. I will get the uname for you in a sec
20:22<chibill>nvm
20:22<chibill>thats the wrong command to get the version
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20:22<chibill>3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1 (2016-12-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux is uname -a
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20:23<sney>,v openjdk-8-jdk
20:23<judd>Package: openjdk-8-jdk on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 8u111-b14-2~bpo8+1; sid: 8u121-b13-3; stretch: 8u121-b13-3
20:23<tomcres>You can install it from jessie-backports
20:23<chibill>I have added that backport to my sources.lsit file
20:23<sney>chibill: enable jessie-backports (http://backports.debian.org/ for instructions) then proceed as normal via apt-get
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20:23<chibill>but it refuses to install
20:23<sney>then you need to provide details
20:23<sney>!bat
20:23<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
20:24<chibill>Okay here is the output
20:24<chibill>http://paste.debian.net/914053/
20:24<tomcres>apt -t jessie-backports install openjdk-8-jdk
20:25<chibill>this is a fresh install with only backports added to the sources.list...
20:25<chibill>not sure why its saying its broken
20:25<tomcres>You need to specify -t jessie-backports on the command line
20:25<chibill>really?
20:26<tomcres>Yes
20:26<chibill>it does not use the only palce it can get it?
20:26<chibill>from my sources.list>
20:26<sney>yeah because the openjdk package has dependencies also in backports
20:26<sney>but those dependencies also have versions in jessie
20:26<chibill>http://paste.debian.net/914054/ apt-cache
20:26<chibill>and okay
20:26<sney>so you need to specify backports for all of it
20:26<chibill>they should like update the instuctions to isntall it...
20:27<chibill>it does not even tell you that you need backports
20:27<chibill>Thanks
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21:58<AAccount>is it possible to write an auditd rule that watches the chmod(s) system calls and only records when something has been marked executable
21:59<AAccount>shouldn't it be possible with a bit mask? a1&1 and so on?
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