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---Logopened Sun Feb 19 00:00:51 2017
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00:30<somiaj>Futurama140: what video card?
00:30<somiaj>or more what video drivers
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00:44<Guest1095>hi
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01:02<santiago1>hi
01:03<santiago1>help me please
01:05<somiaj>!ask
01:05<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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01:35<Futurama140>can anyone help me with an issue? I have Debian 8.7.1 64 cinnamon, and WINE won't start any program. anytime i try to use WINE to open something via GUI, nothing happens and when i try terminal, all that happens is it immediately goes back to showing me a fresh terminal line "user@hostname:~$". does anyone have any clue what I could do? already uninstallked and reinstalled it and I cant find much online that doesnt run me in
01:35<Futurama140>circles
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01:37<somiaj>Futurama140: what graphics card/video drivers?
01:37<somiaj>anyways, unsure why you aren't get any output. What program are you trying to start? Does 'winecfg' work?
01:39<Futurama140>cat: /home/luke/.wine/system.reg: no such file or directory exists.
01:40<somiaj>Futurama140: ls -ld .wine (do you have a .wine directory)?
01:41<Futurama140>no such
01:41<Futurama140>but i do see a .wine64 folder in /home/
01:41<Futurama140>i have installed wine via apt twice now
01:42<somiaj>ahh it seems you have wine64 installed, maybe you need wine32
01:42<somiaj>do you have multiarch enabled and wine32 isntalled. Many window binaries are 32bit and wont' work with wine64
01:45<Futurama140>pastebin.com/q4v1HF2t
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01:45<somiaj>!pastebin
01:45<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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01:46<somiaj>Futurama140: anyways I see you are mixing to many repos, your issue might be hard to debug. What wine package did you install, what is the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy wine wine32
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02:13<alkisg>Futurama140: the problem is that you're trying to download and use programs like wine, from their own repositories, instead of using the debian repositories
02:13<alkisg>So you are mixing too many repositories and your apt-get install didn't even succeed
02:14<alkisg>You need to clean up your sources.list, remove the custom versions, and use the debian versions instead
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03:45<rallias>Question. I've got a 'Intel Corporation Device 3165 (rev 81)' which looks to be a wifi adapter. Is there any way I can use that without diving headfirst into experimental?
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03:47<tomcres>I just googled it, and it seems that it may work with firmware-iwlwifi
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03:48<rallias>It's not showing in `ip link show` :/
03:49<somiaj>you may need a newer kernel from jessie-backports and the assoicated firmware.
03:50<rallias>Bleaugh.
03:50<rallias>A reboot is more than I honestly want to deal with tonight.
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04:56<rahmonali>hi
04:56<xormor>rahmonali, hi
04:57<rahmonali>i have problem
04:57<rahmonali>how can i update my ubuntu repositories
04:57<Ganneff>try in an ubuntu channel
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05:01<t>lol
05:01<t>its the same process, Ganneff..
05:02<t>still.. was good for a chuckle
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05:42<georgia>I'm having some sound issues (specifically a lack of sound) after replacing gnome 3 with XFCE. Pavucontrol shows my digital stereo (HDMI) output as "unplugged". I installed pavucontrol because XFCE's native sound manager couldn't seem to fix the problem. Any tips? Using stable.
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13:52<koleygr>Hi
13:53<koleygr>can somebody tell me if the next lines of my /var/log/messages is something important?
13:53<koleygr>'Feb 19 16:01:19 debian kernel: [14473.413797] CPU1: Core temperature/speed normal
13:53<koleygr>Feb 19 16:02:49 debian gnome-session[1014]: (gnome-settings-daemon:1083): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 20361 was not found when attempting to remove it
13:54<koleygr>I know i have temprature problems
13:54<koleygr>I mean about that critical
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14:27<sney>koleygr: gnome and gtk and glib throw all kinds of errors all the time, if gnome is working as you expect then just consider yourself warned and don't worry about it
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14:28<koleygr>thanks sney :)
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14:41<joe>Hello! Could anyone recommend some good introduction languages to learn? I want to be able to contribute to Linux OSs. I have a pretty good knowledge on bash but I'm just not sure what to work on next.
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14:42<somiaj>joe: many things are done in C, but I find scripting langauges like say python or perl a bit easier to work with. And there are lots of both perl and python scripts/software included in many opensource stuff
14:43<dboles>sadly you might find yourself needing to learn that most alien of languages...
14:43<dboles>autotools
14:44<somiaj>yea and makescripts
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14:44<joe>do you know anygood programs that i can sandbox in?
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14:45<dboles>what areas are you interested in contributing to? desktop/server apps, device drivers, etc
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14:45<blast007>joe: by "sandbox" do you just mean an area to experiment in, or are you referring to stuff like resource and process isolation?
14:46<joe>desktops. my dream would be able to make linux more accessbile to people who aren't so tech savy
14:46<joe>by sandbow i mean a place where i can write and test code without having to worry about breaking anything
14:47<dboles>oftentimes if you just are careful to install somewhere else like /usr/local or /opt then there is no risk of conflict
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14:48<dboles>though depending on what you are changing, it can be anything from tedious to difficult to get other parts of the system to use it instead of the 'official' copy
14:48<dtw>Or virtual machine.
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14:50<dboles>yeah, that's the safest and most breakable option!
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14:51<joe>ok cool! thanks guys
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15:09<cyld>hello
15:10<cyld>hello*
15:11<dboles>please, rather than shouting into the void, just
15:11<dboles>!ask
15:11<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:11<dboles>lol ok
15:11<koleygr>joe for windows applications (not the os) qt is very interesting language and LXQt is going to be one more DE... If you get bored with terminal interface in your apps take a look to qtcreator
15:12<dboles>obligatory partisanship from me: GTK+ and co also work pretty well on Windows
15:12<dboles>MSYS2 distributes closely tracking packages of those and loads of other common packages from Linux land
15:12<koleygr>qt is one of the easier ways to create windows interface
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15:13<dboles>so is Glade :P
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15:16<NewUserFR>hello
15:16<NewUserFR>Is there anyone?
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15:16<dboles>hi, welcome
15:16<dboles>!ask
15:16<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:17<NewUserFR>Can anyone tell me what's the most appropriate and efficient way to find help for a Debian package?
15:18<NewUserFR>I've heard about mailing lists, but I d'ont know how to use them...
15:18<dboles>is it just help using the package, or do you have a bug to report?
15:19<NewUserFR>i think it's just help with the package (its configuration)
15:19<dboles>mailing lists: basically, you register to receive emails from the list, and you can reply to its address and other registered readers will then see your message
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15:20<dboles>then i guess it depends on what package it is - as then we'll know whether it has any support of its own, or whether people here use it, etc
15:20<NewUserFR>ok, that's what i thought, but won't my e-mail inbox be filled with messages from the mailing list?
15:20<dboles>good mailing lists give you the option of receiving "digests" of messages, where they're collected and sent in groups on a specified time scale
15:20<dboles>(or you could just set up a separate email address for them)
15:21<NewUserFR>the package is scanbd, which replaced scanbuttond when I upgraded my home server from Wheezy to Jessie
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15:21<scootergrisen>If i compile a program in /usr/bin are they some smart way to know what fine was installed so that i can undo it? Delete all the files that was created during make install?
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15:21<NewUserFR>basically, it allows to trigger some specific actions when a button is pressed on a scanner attached to the computer
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15:22<alkisg>scootergrisen: sudo apt-get install debsums; sudo debsums -s ==> will report modified files that belong to packages
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15:23<NewUserFR> @dboles ok, thanks for the info about mailing lists! do you know if that's the case for Debian mailing lists?
15:24<somiaj>scootergrisen: don't compile programs in /usr/bin, only let dpkg install stuff there. Compile programs and install them in /usr/local, and there are tools such as gnu stow or check-install to help manage stuff installed with 'make install' in /usr/local
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15:25<dboles>NewUserFR: by a super quick look here https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe it sounds like only some lists offer digest versions, but i might be wrong
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15:27<NewUserFR>and do you think it's possible to contact the package maintainer about the issue?
15:29<dboles>as you've seen, the sourceforge site on clicking 'project website' just links back to itself
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15:29<dboles>but i went into the code tree, and both the AUTHORS and configure.ac list a main author
15:29<jgcampbell300> so im getting duplicate menus again https://ibin.co/3Cy1bFybeezI.png any ideas
15:29<dboles>NewUserFR: https://sourceforge.net/p/scanbd/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/AUTHORS
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15:30<dboles>NewUserFR: so you could try contacting them and see if they can help, or see if you can find any other groups of users discussing scanbd
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15:31<_marioxcc_>Hello
15:32<_marioxcc_>In Debian 8 (as a host and guest). I find that with KVM, the virtuel machine freezes after I connect from the host via SSH or even open a guest-served HTTP page. Why?
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15:33<NewUserFR>@dboles thank you very much for your help!
15:34<dboles>sure, good luck
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15:37<alkisg>jgcampbell300: run mate-panel --reset --replace
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15:46<Walex>_marioxcc_: out psychic advisors are currently all busy on other astral planes. In the meantime you could have a look at 'dmesg' and other logs on both host and VM
15:47<Speed2u>I'm having some trouble with proxypass, i want one of my virtual hosts to be redirecting visitors to another webserver on my network. Have been setting up the vhost to redirect to / 192.x.x.x:80/ and activated proxy, proxy_http and proxy_html on the main server, still cannot get it to work
15:47<jgcampbell300>alkisg, ty but will that stop it from happening when i login ?
15:47<Speed2u>i know i have done this similar before but i'm sure i'm just forgetting something
15:48<_marioxcc_>Walex: I can't look at the dmest of the guest as is became frozen. The host says "[ 438.137788] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound" "[ 440.597597] kvm [1801]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0x1c9" (the later repeated many times)
15:48<alkisg>jgcampbell300: didn't you just add them twice? it happened "all by itself"? does it happen on new users?
15:48<Walex>Speed2u: thanks for letting us know about you doing "something" with some unknown program (probably Apache2).
15:49<jgcampbell300>alkisg, ya it does it by its self ... think it has something to do with two monitoris
15:49<Speed2u>Walex: Yes apache2 sorry i missed that
15:49<Walex>_marioxcc_: have your tried a web search for "vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr"
15:49<Walex>Speed2u: maybe #httpd would be more appropriate
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15:49<alkisg>jgcampbell300: it always did that, from the start? does it happen in all users?
15:50<_marioxcc_>Walex: Yes. I can not undertand, however, what I can do about it.
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15:51<jgcampbell300>alkisg, from build yes ... i always have this problem when i build new .... hmm let me make new user and see if it happens there
15:51<Walex>_marioxcc_: this says it is just a warning: http://wiki.stoney-cloud.org/wiki/Workaround_unhandled_rdmsr/wrmsr
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15:52<alkisg>jgcampbell300: what do you mean "from build"? You build mate yourself, without using the debian packages?
15:52<jgcampbell300>alkisg, no ... i meant install sorry
15:52<Speed2u>waldex I'm already at their main channel on another network just wanted to spread my question for faster response
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15:54<blast007>!crosspost
15:54<dpkg>Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
15:56<Walex>_marioxcc_: is CPU on the host being used by the VM? All our psychic advisors are still busy unfortunately.
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15:59<jgcampbell300>alkisg, does it to new user as well
15:59<Speed2u>blast007: Good to know you are god's best angel; i don't think that rule is applyable within diffrient networks. I would agree with you however if i was stupid enough to post the same question on several channels on the same network
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16:00<blast007>Speed2u: it certainly applies to multiple networks
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16:01<Speed2u>well we have diffrient opinions about that; do you really think its wrong to ask here since the main-OS i run is debian besides asking in the main apache-channel where i have more of a "general" support?
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16:03<_marioxcc_>Walex: There is only one virtual machine running, if that is what you are asking.
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16:04<alkisg>jgcampbell300: if that's a normal installation, I would report it to mate.
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16:04<alkisg>File a bug report
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16:44<segfault1>hi! i would like to provide a systemd unit file for an existing debian package. how should i proceed for this?
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16:48<itd>segfault1: how about: open a bug, state that there is no systemd unit file and add your file as suggestion.
16:48<segfault1>itd: ok, thanks!
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16:50<josegatica>hi folks. I've created a new IRC channel for chilean users #debian-cl
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16:50<josegatica>regards :)
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16:58<lelebart>hi, fast and noob questions. i'm going to install debian on a netbook, next to win7, using windows boot loader (and easy bcd). i've resized the win partition, and made a new logical one with the free space, then a 1gb for boot, 100gb for debian and 4gb for swap. q1) debian partition is ext4, which filesystem for the boot one (grub)? q2) if it is not adviced to use only one partition for system, how many partition i ha
17:01<mtn>lelebart: is this a efi boot, not mbr?
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17:02<lelebart>mtn , how to know? (i guess mbr, not sure)
17:02<mtn>lelebart: well, it is very important. do you know the difference?
17:03<awal1>1 gb for boot?
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17:03<lelebart>mtn, no ); - ok let me dig around
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17:04<awal1>1 gb for boot is crazy :P
17:04<amacater>mtn: Suggestion - use a Debian install CD to do this - use Debian to work out how to sort out the booting - third party booting mechanisms not fantastic :(
17:05<mtn>amacater: huh? do you mean to address lelebart?
17:05<lelebart>awal1, i read on arch kb to set it more than 512mb. maybe i misunderstood
17:05<peter1138>And 100GB for Debian is a very large install
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17:05<peter1138>I've not needed a separate /boot for years anyway.
17:06<mtn>depends on whether he is talking about efi partition or not
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17:06<amacater>Sorry, yes - that was for lelebart
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17:07<amacater>Boot a Debian .iso and see which mode it boots in
17:07<tomcres>well if he's got a logical partition, that's MBR, though, no?
17:07<[josegatica]>And if you let the boot at principal partition? That's the noob option, but take less time
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17:08<awal1>lelebart, 100/200 mb is enough for bios mode, 500 + or - is if uefi mde
17:08<amacater>josegatica: potentially, that's what I'd do: let Debian control the MBR and booting process, detect the Win 7 and just sort it out - but that's me
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17:09<amacater>I'm fiarly sure that 512M for boot is designed because kernels are getting bigger - depends on the size of the disk
17:09<awal1>well, 1 gb is ok, you can do so, but it is just too much
17:10<awal1>use that if you feel more comfortable
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17:10<amacater>The netbook next to me has 512M, I think - only a 120G disk but it's nearly ten years old :)
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17:11<lelebart>i'm try to understand if mbr or uefi. it's an olivetti m1030, afaik mbr
17:12<lelebart>the disk is a 320gb. huge for a netbook. it has a boot partition for win, a recovery one, then the windows one i've shrinked.
17:13<rime>so mbr
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17:15<lelebart>i was told not to install grub over the win-boot partition for the recovery option, that's why i made that linux-one. i thought easy bcd was a better move
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17:21<rime>what"s the prob ?
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17:21<awal1>win7 ues bios, not mbr
17:22<awal1>not uefi ^
17:22<awal1>:P
17:22<awal1>windows uefi is 8+
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17:24<lelebart>awal1, fear of the unknown (it's the prob) x)
17:26<lelebart>sorry, it was for @rime
17:27<[josegatica]>[lelebart] hahaha fear of the unknown. Sometimes that happens
17:28<[josegatica]>lelebart: hahaha fear of the unknown. Sometimes that happens
17:28<lelebart>amacater, i'll try. but i really want that /boot one - like a comfort zone
17:28<rime>it is a human fell, we all fear unknown,but ...
17:28<rime>*feel
17:28<[josegatica]>I understand bro
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17:29<blast007>awal1: Windows 7 can use UEFI as well. It just doesn't have secure boot.
17:29<rime>take some drugs, you won't fear x)
17:29<awal1>blast007, oh, ok; I don't knew that
17:30<[josegatica]>don't use drugs, police could be reading LOL
17:30<blast007>sounds like 64-bit Windows Vista SP1 also supports UEFI
17:30<lelebart>rime, in beer i trust - and my drinking team has a bike polo problem, but this is another story ;p
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17:31<lelebart>it's a 32bit one, on a intel atom n450
17:32<rime>[josegatica], too late for me :/*
17:33<lelebart>blast, in my case win7 started 32bit (prev line was for you too)
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17:33<lelebart>*starter
17:35<lelebart>@blast007, read above. and sorry for miswriting your nick
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17:38<[josegatica]>[rime] on drugs or in jail? hahahaha
17:38<amacater>If it started as 32 bit - is the laptop itself only 32 bit capable?
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17:39<amacater>If so, make sure you use the correct install media
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17:40<rime>[josegatica], no comment rofl ^^
17:40<[josegatica]>[amacater] I don't know if I'm so much hard with you, but a good choice is migrate 100% to GNU/Linux
17:41<rime>100% agree :)
17:41<lelebart>amacater, netinst i386 is my choise
17:42<[josegatica]>Someone else use only Debian?
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17:46<purplecactus>Hello?
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17:47<[josegatica]>hello [purplecactus]
17:47<purplecactus>Could someone help me install openjdk 8? I'm having some issues.
17:47<[josegatica]>tell us
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17:49<purplecactus>I added jessie-backports to my sources.list.d then ran sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre and then i get an error saying I have unmet dependancies and "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." And I can't install any of the dependencies.
17:49<blast007>!bat
17:49<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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17:51<[josegatica]>[purplecactus] hoping not to be so bad with you, first you must consult the debian wiki after install some software
17:51<sney>purplecactus: you need to use -t jessie-backports in your apt-get command
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17:52<purplecactus>sney thank you! Its installing now.
17:52<sney>np
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17:54<[josegatica]>[sney] anyway, we are here for help
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17:59<rime>[josegatica], I'm sure you beer is really good \o/
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17:59<rime>*your
17:59<[josegatica]>[rime] hahahaha no, man
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18:00<[josegatica]>trying to keep the conversation in order with each user makes me write later than I could
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18:01<rime>it is that we say ;)
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18:05<[josegatica]>anyway, I need a beer to keep writing code
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18:06<rime>[josegatica], what kind of code are you writing ?
18:06<[josegatica]>a simple corp web to a client
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18:08<rime>oh, dude, I thought you were in the matrix :D
18:08<[josegatica]>hahahaha I'd like that
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18:15<Eryn_1983_FL>hi
18:15<lelebart>[josegatica] a client told me (i'm in the web too) "why you don't use tables for layout? it's much more simple" i almost died
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18:18<[josegatica]>[lelebart] clients give so much situations to become a comedian
18:18<lelebart>so true
18:19<lelebart>well, like here me!
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18:20<[josegatica]>[Eryn_1983_FL] welcome
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18:30<marcus_>#DE
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18:30<marcus_>#Debian
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18:30<[josegatica]>[marcus] you're in now ;)
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18:40<rime>[josegatica], do some tables, you will be right :p
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18:41<[josegatica]>hahahaha
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19:21<lelebart>hi, installing on netbook is taking ages, so i make a vm in virtualbox on my osx to play with
19:22<lelebart>i fell in love with this theme [[ https://github.com/adapta-project/adapta-gtk-theme ]] but i have absolutle
19:22<lelebart>* absolutely no idea how to install it
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19:30<missmbob>lelebart: you can manually download the gtk deb from that ppa and install it on debian with dpkg -i. nature of themes mean it wont conflic/break anything. in fact i did it here. nice theme :)
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19:35<lelebart>missmbob, add-apt-repository: comand not found
19:35<missmbob>lelebart: i said manually. not adding their repo
19:35<missmbob>lelebart: here https://launchpad.net/~tista/+archive/ubuntu/adapta/+build/12028244/+files/adapta-gtk-theme_3.89.4.32-0ubuntu1~zesty1_all.deb
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19:36<lelebart>missmbob, sorry, thanks
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20:14<lelebart>hurra! debian running on netbook. during the install it was missing rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin and infact wifi doesn't work. how to install it?
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20:15<dvs>!tell lelebart about firmware iso
20:16<sney>lelebart: get the firmware-realtek .deb and put it on a thumbdrive, then install it on the netbook
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20:20<gbirincsik>hello
20:20<gbirincsik>anyone?
20:20<lelebart>thanks cvs, thanks sney. eth0 works fine, how to grab that .deb?
20:20<sney>lelebart: from packages.debian.org
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20:20<lelebart>* dsv not csv, damn osx autocorrect
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20:23<sney>lelebart: wait, if eth0 is ok then just apt-get install firmware-realtek
20:23<lelebart>sney, package not foud
20:23<sney>!non-free
20:23<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
20:24<sney>hmf
20:24<sney>just edit sources.list and add 'contrib non-free' to the first line that ends with 'jessie main'
20:24<somiaj>!non-free sources
20:24<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
20:24<lelebart>thanks
20:24<gbirincsik>I have an issue with my debian. May you help me to find out the reason of it? https://paste.debian.net/915668/
20:25<sney>gbirincsik: is your disk full?
20:25<somiaj>gbirincsik: mkinitramfs: failed to determine device for / -- that is what looks troublesome to me.
20:26<somiaj>it does give a workaround too, but unsure why it isn't detecting it
20:27<gbirincsik>we know what is the issue, but we cannot find out how to fix it.
20:28<somiaj>did you follow the suggestion, grep -r MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/
20:29<gbirincsik>https://paste.debian.net/915669/
20:29<gbirincsik>Yes i did
20:30<somiaj>so in that file where it has MODULES=dep change it to MODULES=most
20:30<somiaj>if you need to use MODULES=dep you may have to tell initramfs what your rootfs UUID is or something along those lines, I'm unsure here
20:31<somiaj>I'm just following what the error said
20:31<somiaj>(and my system defaults to MODULES=most)
20:32<gbirincsik>https://paste.debian.net/915670/
20:32<gbirincsik>:(
20:33<sney>should it not be in driver-policy as well?
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20:36<gbirincsik>interesting. We tried it before, but did not work. Now it works. Thank you guys for helping.
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