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03:19<twb>Where does Icedove (and Firefox ESR) store their CA cert trust list? As a sysadmin I want to force ALL local users to trust my corporate CA cert, and (ideally) untrust all the default ones
03:20<twb>I already solved this for chromium by overwriting ~/.pki every time the user logs in (because chromium uses nss3 in a configuration that ignores /etc/ entirely), but apparently that's not enough for icedove
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03:21<twb>I remember seeing some horror stories about how firefox default CA list was compiled into an .so (!) and couldn't be modified by sysadmins at all, but I haven't found that bug report yet
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03:23<twb>simply stracing icedove hasn't helped either :/
03:27<jm_>possibly cert8.db, but db_dump does not work for me on that file
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03:29<twb>I hope I don't have to copy it to *yet another* dir in $HOME
03:30<twb>stupid libnss3 only supports having one directory to search in, so it can't search in both /etc/pki and ~/.pki at once
03:30<jm_>maybe this can help with part of the problem https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:AddRootToFirefox
03:30<twb>looking
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03:31<jm_>some interesting stuff here too http://askubuntu.com/questions/244582/add-certificate-authorities-system-wide-on-firefox
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03:31<jm_>Firefox's source code shows that built-in CA certs are in fact hard-coded into firefox executable. They reside in security/nss/lib/ckfw/builtins/certdata.txt
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03:34<twb>Hrm unless it *is* reading ~/.pki and it's just that I haven't added all the hostnames to that...
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03:36<twb>http://sprunge.us/FJHd?bash at build time and http://sprunge.us/aZeH?bash at login time, so it should just be using the names in the cert itself.
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03:38<twb>I love how that askubuntu page someone suggests hard linking all the ~/.../cert8.db files together, then "and add a+w so anyone can add more certs"
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03:40<twb>At least with chromium it's ~/.pki and not ~/.icedove/<random string>.default/ :/ I guess the script will have to iterate over every dir in ~/.icedove/ or something AND again in the /etc/.../profile skeleton.
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03:40<twb>This is all nss3's fault of course
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03:41<twb>(That, plus on Windows and OS X all GUI browsers uses the system cert keyring, so this problem only affects GNU and BSD users, and they're second-class citizens...)
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03:49<twb>Ah yeah I see in strace it accessing certX.db directly in the root of [ProfD]
03:49<twb>I was searching before only for /tls|ssl|ca|pki/i so didn't find it
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03:51<jm_>maybe it can be inspected with certutil
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03:53<twb>yeah, I just don't have certutil normally installed on inmate hosts because URGH
03:53<twb>I used to actually run certutil when they logged in, only importing my key instead of just blowing away their entire certificate hierarchy. But it too so long, they'd start up the browser, and they'd have a fight to edit it (no locking, apparently), and leave their $HOME permanently broken
03:54<twb>I tried a simple cp -vat ~/.icedove/*.*/ ~/.pki/nssdb/* (while icedove was off); starting icedove shows same "confirm exception" popup
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04:10<twb>Hrm wait, there's that "AutoConfig via JavaScript" thing in your first link. I already have to use that to lock preferences (because the more modern ways flat out don't work for sysadmins), so I could try adding it in ther
04:11<twb>Of course, that API probably won't let me copy the CA cert from ~/.pki/nssdb/cert9.db, so I'll have to have a second copy stored directly in autoconfig.js… :/
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04:21<twb>jm_: thanks btw — you helped a lot (/me goes home)
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04:22<jm_>twb: no worries
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04:24<anon67>Hi, I've been involved in the development of a new gpl3 licensed software. Now I was wondering how people usually go about releasing their software as package. Is there a place for talking to maintainers and asking them to maintain your software?
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04:25<jm_>!wnpp
04:25<dpkg>For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp (refinable list at http://wnpp.debian.net/). Use wnpp-alert (from the <devscripts> package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help.
04:25<anon67>thanks a bunch
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04:29<DrNil>Hi, I'm trying to install SELinux on a fresh jessie install. I understand that selinux-policy-default is not included in the current stable repos so I went with installing the refconfig from github. I'm basically following https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/4okaos/selinux_and_debian/d4egrn5/ but fail at the make load step. Help!
04:32<itd>DrNil: How does it fail? (What is the output? - Use paste.debian.net)
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04:45<DrNil>itd: http://paste.debian.net/915722/
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04:56<itd>DrNil: What does you build.conf look like? (You could try a restart.)
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04:58<DrNil>itd: here's my build.conf http://paste.debian.net/915723/
04:58<DrNil>reboot with /.autorelabel in place or without?
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05:07<itd>DrNil: I'd try it with /.autorelabel in place. Not sure though.
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05:14<DrNil>itd: reboot complete. SELinux status: disabled
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05:19<DrNil>itd: the logs do not show any errors or such. I'm a bit at loss how to analyze this.
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05:26<itd>DrNil: All I can think of: restart the instructions from step 6 or ask #selinux on freenode
05:27<DrNil>itd: thanks for you help, will ask on selinux
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07:25<npower>hello
07:26<npower>i need a little help here
07:26<petn-randall>!ask
07:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
07:27<npower>i'm facing an issue with synaptic manager under debian
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07:27<npower>i change the source list
07:27<npower>manualy without synaptic
07:27<npower>and now i can' seem to open repositories setting in synaptics
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07:27<npower>it just ask to reload each time
07:28<npower>and even after reloading it never show up
07:28<petn-randall>npower: Probably because your sources.list has invalid syntax. If you run 'apt-get update' as root on the command line, do you get any errors?
07:28<npower>wait a sec
07:28<npower>i try that quick
07:29<petn-randall>npower: You can paste the errors to http://paste.debian.net, a copy of your sources.list would also be good.
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07:33<npower>no error but still not showing up repository setting in synapt and crash when clicking on internal options
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07:34<petn-randall>npower: Can you show it anyway?
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07:40<terabreik>hi bros!
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07:42<npower>ok,i have an idea
07:42<npower>what the dependencies of synaptic
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07:43<terabreik>anyone here develop for Debian?
07:45<itd>npower: Have a look at `apt-cache show synaptic` and please post the output / sources.list as petn-randall said.
07:45<itd>terabreik: Is that a survey or do you have a question?
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07:49<terabreik>a little survey, just to know :)
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07:52<npower>http://paste.debian.net/915762/
07:52<npower>here the link
07:53<npower>just up there
07:53<npower>sorry for the wait
07:53<npower>so how can i solve it
07:53<npower>maybe reinstalling synaptic
07:54<npower>http://paste.debian.net/915762/ here if you didn't have it
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07:56<npower>well...
07:56<npower>taking time
07:56<npower>okay what the command for reinstalling synaptic
07:56<themill> The output of 'apt-get update' is likely to be more interesting to see
07:58<npower>i did give it 2 time
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07:58<npower>http://paste.debian.net/915762/
07:58<npower>again its the output
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07:58<jm_>that's not the output of 'apt-get update'
07:58<npower>but please just tell me how to reinstall synaptics
07:59<npower>just so we are clear,i may be not as knowledgeable as all of you,and just maybe,but i think and i'm sure that in most case,it doesn't have a single thing in relation with my problem
08:00<npower>giving the otput of my repo have nothing to do with the strange behavior of synaptic
08:00<themill>you'd have to have done something very impressive for reinstalling synaptics to have any effect
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08:00<npower>of course it can if for exemple there missing lib
08:00<themill>and how would that suddenly be missing?
08:01<npower>well,it was just a supposition
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08:01<npower>because it did work at first
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08:01<npower>since 3 month it was working
08:01<npower>but then
08:01<npower>you know the rest
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08:01<npower>so
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08:02<themill>so since we can discount libraries but we know you did edit the sources.list, ....
08:02<themill>I think causality might help us here
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08:02<npower>just please kindly,tell me the exact command for reinstalling synaptic
08:02<npower>just say it !!!
08:02<themill>...
08:03<themill>!show sources.list npower
08:03<dpkg>npower: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
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08:04<npower>i'm in a virtual box so just need to do some tinkering and testing
08:04<npower>so please tell me just how to reinstall it
08:05<themill>I'd rather solve your problem
08:06<alkisg>themill: I think he'll cooperate more if you do tell him to reinstall synaptic and see for himself that that didn't help at all :D
08:06<alkisg>What can you do, psychology is needed for troubleshooting computer issues... :)
08:07<npower>why its in a virtual box,and its not a important case cause its not my main os,its just for testing
08:07<npower>so if it break
08:07<npower>don't care
08:07<alkisg>It's not windows;programs in linux don't change with reinstall
08:07<npower>that the point of testing
08:07<npower>winning by failling
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08:07<themill>that's nice
08:07<npower>yeah,the hard way
08:08<alkisg>Sure, you can test 1000 things that won't fix your problem and learn something
08:08<TotallyNotKim>ayy ayy fellow debs
08:08<npower>but you never know if it can work right ?
08:08<themill>Asking in #debian does imply you want help solving the problem though
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08:08<alkisg>You'll learn that the 1 thing that will fix your problem taught you more :D
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08:09<npower>yeah,you right doesn't solve
08:09<npower>i reinstall it
08:09<npower>well
08:10<npower>i guess i paste the said output
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08:10<alkisg>Yey, psychology wins again :)
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08:10<npower>XD
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08:11<npower>well,there ton of source.list
08:11<themill>that's probably not a good thing
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08:11<npower>i customize it days ago
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08:12<npower>it work for quite a good time
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08:13<alkisg>npower: egrep -rv '^#|^#' /etc/apt/sources.list* | nc termbin.com 9999
08:13<alkisg>This will share your sources with us
08:13<petn-randall>!pastebinit
08:13<dpkg>A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
08:14<alkisg>typo, egrep -rv '^#|^$' /etc/apt/sources.list* | nc termbin.com 9999
08:14<terabreik>a little survey, just to know :)
08:14<petn-randall>terabreik: With a few hundred IRC users in here, you can assume the answer is "yes". Now to asking your real question.
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08:21<terabreik>petn-randall: I wanna start developing for debian soon. I'd like to talk about that and learn a little too
08:22<petn-randall>terabreik: I see. What are you interested in? I might be able to point you in the right direction.
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08:25<terabreik>petn-randall: I'd like to understand the way to build something in the right way. Some book that would help? that would help too
08:26<petn-randall>terabreik: You can join #debian-mentors, there are some helpful links in the /topic.
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08:26<terabreik>thanks!! :)
08:27<themill>!nmg
08:27<dpkg>The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/
08:27<petn-randall>terabreik: You're welcome, feel free to ask some questions there when they come up.
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09:22<lelebart>hi, i'm trying to install adatpa theme [[ https://github.com/adapta-project/adapta-gtk-theme ]] on jessie lxde, but i'm stucked here http://pastebin.com/PFDT4sVQ (@missmbob: how did you get it work?)
09:23<tomcres>lelebart, type: apt -f install
09:23<tomcres>this will fetch all the dependencies and configure the package
09:23<itd>dpkg: localised errors
09:23<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
09:25<lelebart>tomcres, i tryed, but it only removes adapta-gtk-theme. thanks for the l18n tip, i'll update the paste. btw it seems that the theme require a higher pkg version than the one i have
09:26<tomcres>lelebart, that is a posssibility. Ubuntu generally has newer versions of packages. The dependencies might be too new for Debian.
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09:29<lelebart>tomcres: ah. i didn't know. so, there's no way i can use that theme now. paste update.
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09:42<zathras>lelebart, please consider NOT to use pastebin.com : many alternatives WITHOUT annoying and resource hungry adds are available
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09:47<lelebart>zathras, sorry, i use it from ages ago, surfing with adblock. i'l consider alternatives, thanks
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10:13<itd>lelebart: (As tomcres said:) The ubuntu package depends on newer versions than available in debian jessie (e.g. libgtk-3-common) and hence is not usable. (Also: Building the package on your own will probably not work since you would need sassc which is not in jessie/backportable.)
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10:16<itd>lelebart: You could try to understand how archlinux uses the files from the package (see https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/plain/PKGBUILD?h=adapta-gtk-theme-deb) to provide the theme, but I'm not sure if that is a good idea. ;)
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10:17<lelebart>itd: i installed sassc with ruby (i think). but, ok no adapta for now - it's not essential, just really cool :)
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10:33<dark>hi, are there driver open source for graphic card Amd rx470? in Debian 9 testing? I'm new con Debian , i use Mint 18.1
10:33<itd>dpkg: mint
10:33<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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11:24<npozer>hello
11:25<npozer>someone here maybe
11:26<npozer>just want to ask a little question here
11:26<npozer>plaese
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11:26<itd>dpkg: ask
11:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:26<npozer>ok
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11:27<npozer>so...i want to install in a pc with only two 7gb hdd and i thought if there a way of using them both in one for installing linux
11:28<npozer>i have gparted by the way
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11:28<npozer>if someone can help
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11:29<terabreik>Hi people. Some book to start with Debian develop?
11:30<npozer>someone here...
11:30<npozer>its in linux debian if this wasnt obvious
11:32<mtn>!lvm
11:32<dpkg>[lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net.
11:32<terabreik>npozer: Hi. I understand that you want to use the two 7gb hdd to convert in one and install only a GNU/Linux distro
11:32<terabreik>right?
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11:36<annadane>hi, how can i check if my kernel is up to date?
11:36<annadane>and is it a good idea to upgrade if it isn't
11:37<blast007>npozer: one easy way would be to use one of them for / and swap, and the second one for /home
11:37<blast007>(or one for / and the other for /home and swap)
11:37<blast007>the /home directory is where user files go
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11:39<aielima>npozer, https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm is also of great help
11:40<terabreik>annadane: uname -r
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11:40<terabreik>annadane: that's to see your kernel version
11:41<itd>annadane: Upgrade? To what?
11:41<annadane>itd: i thought updating the kernel was something you could do
11:41<terabreik>annadane: and here's a link to see the stable kernel versions https://www.kernel.org/
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11:42<itd>annadane: You can install a newer kernel from backports, yes. (But unless you have reason to do so: don't.)
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11:44<itd>annadane: Other than that only security updates come to my mind and you should install those. Do that the same way you install security updates for other packages.
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12:04<alastor>hi
12:04<alastor>anyone here?
12:04<alastor>i have problem with my debian 8
12:04<itd>dpkg: ask
12:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:30<kiki8520>hello
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12:31<itd>alastor: did you see what dpkg said?
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12:50<alastor>itd, hoho let me trie that
12:50<alastor>i have a problem with samba client
12:50<alastor>!i have a problem with samba client
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12:50<alastor>!ask i have a problem with samba client
12:50<alastor>ajajaja
12:51<alastor>" i have a problem with samba client"
12:51<terabreik>alastor: What the... hahahaha
12:51<alastor>:)
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13:49<Celelibi>How do I get informed when a bug report gets updated?
13:49<Celelibi>It's a bug I didn't report.
13:50<Ganneff>subscribe to it
13:50<Celelibi>How?
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13:50<Ganneff>read https://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS (and search for subscribe)
13:51<Celelibi>Thanks.
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15:53<battlestation>can someone help me learn this parrot os
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16:08<john5555>someone's here ?
16:09<mtn>796 someones
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16:14<mtn>josh-debian-sid, do you have a debian support question?
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16:15<josh-debian-sid>I have a support question, but #debian probably isn't the place for it
16:15<josh-debian-sid>At least I don't think
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16:15<terabreik>josh-debian-sid: tell us
16:16<josh-debian-sid>It's a networking issue - I'm having a lot of trouble setting up an old router as a switch. I did some configuring on my debian desktop and possibly broke the network settings there.
16:16<josh-debian-sid>Let me setup irc on my phone in case I take this machine offline again
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16:20<josh-debian-sid>My /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.debian.net/915885/
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16:23<terabreik>josh-debian-sif: maybe this can help you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGfHTllFF9o
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16:24<josh-debian-sid>Currently my switch is working, it is running on 192.168.0.2, my modem router is running on 192.168.1.1 . I have a apache2 server (nextcloud) running on a raspberry pi (raspbian jessie) on 192.168.0.3. This machine is on 192.168.0.100, it can see the raspberry pi. Nothing on 192.168.1.XXX can see the raspberry pi (switch can only see switch).
16:24<terabreik>run in kali, but is about the same problem. Remember do it as sudo
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16:25<josh-debian-sid>Alright, it's downloading
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16:35<josh-debian-sid>@terabreik pretty poor video, would be much better as written instructions..
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16:38<josh-debian-sid>terabreik This is just general network troubleshooting. I have a eth0 connection with internet and LAN access
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16:42<mtn>josh-debian-sid, there is a networking channel on the freenode server
16:43<josh-debian-sid>mtn Thanks
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17:40<Arcade>I have a quick question: I noticed that firefox 45.7.0 seems to want to have links redirect using https yet firefox version 51.0.1 does not and is fine. Was there an issue with version 45.7.0?
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17:42<halk>My server reboots to 'Welcome to emergency mode' I think it's because one or more of the non-essential drives are faulty. I can't work out how to ignore the problem and boot beyond this.
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17:45<Arcade>halk, have you looked at journalctr to see if you can bring any logs up?
17:45<halk>Yeah, there's masses of logs that I don't really understand. It's temporarily connected to a bad old monitor so it's very difficult to do anything, ideally I want to get it to boot up normally and then review what's wrong and fix it
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17:47<Arcade>halk, when you run #journalctl -xb does it show what failed?
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17:47<halk>Probably. I don't know
17:48<halk>There seems to be a couple of thousand lines of it
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17:49<Arcade>anything you see off hand that is marked failed?
17:51<halk>Lots but I don't know what's important or not
17:51<halk>Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 4480 Offline uncorrectable sectors
17:51<halk>Device info:
17:51<halk>ST3000DM001-1CH166, S/N:Z1F3LESZ, WWN:5-000c50-064629324, FW:CC27, 3.00 TB
17:51<Arcade>see if this has any hints
17:51<Arcade>#fsck /dev/sdaX
17:52<Arcade>ah looking like bad sectors
17:52<halk>Yeah, I dont' care about that drive though. There's a ZFS array of 8 4TB drives and I had some old cheap nasty 3TB and 2TB drives that I periodically did a backup to, they've started to fail
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17:53<halk>Ideally I want to boot into debian, shell in from my PC and work out which are faulty and bin them
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17:53<halk>At the moment the server is connected to an old monitor, it's very difficult to read or do anything because it's up in the loft
17:54<halk>Given that the ZFS array seems to be working and the main OS drive seem to be working I'm thinking if I can just get it to boot up normally and ignore the errors then I can shell in and sort it
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17:55<Arcade>depending on how bad the drive is you may not boot. Server may have a disc slot you can run debian live?
17:55<halk>There's an optical drive physically in it, but the faulty drive is not the OS drive
17:55<halk>The faulty drive is just old backups
17:57<Arcade>if the main drive is working and its just a different drive it may be you could not mount the drive on start (/etc/fstab?)
17:57<halk>Yes that's what I think, it seems to find a dead drive and not boot because of it. I just want it to ignore the dead drive
17:58<Arcade>see if /etc/fstab has the drive listed comment out
17:59<halk>How?
17:59<halk>I can't do anything on the server or at least I don't think I can
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18:00<Arcade>commands like nano /etc/fstab don't work
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18:00<halk>Yep
18:02<Arcade>does a command like #fsck /dev/sdaX work either?
18:03<Arcade>not*
18:03<halk>No idea, I can go try
18:03<halk>I was hoping there'd be a command that would skip emergency mode and just boot it up
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18:04<halk>Trying a command means taking a photo of this IRC chat, climbing the ladders, and crawling into the space where the server is and typing it in where I can almost see the monitor
18:04<halk>So I might be better disconnecting all the non-essential drives and seeing what happens
18:04<Arcade>yeah you could do that
18:05<Arcade>serial would be S/N:Z1F3LESZ
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18:06<Arcade>as you listed a 3.00 TB drive
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18:08<halk>Ok I just realised you weren't stating that nano doesn't work you were asking
18:08<halk>Nano does work
18:09<halk>blob:http://imgur.com/1ef14f1b-3b32-4c9a-a784-9ffb225b5b00
18:09<halk>http://imgur.com/a/G2A45
18:09<halk>Sorry that's the correct link
18:10<halk>I'm guessing maybe something in there is telling it that it can't boot with a faulty drive?
18:11<halk>It'll be one of the bottom four drives
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18:12<Arcade>You could comment out all four and see if the server will boot
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18:13<halk>That'll be a # at the start of a line, I'll give that a punt.
18:13<Arcade>from earlier though you posted: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 4480 Offline uncorrectable sectors. So I am wondering if its /dev/sda having issues?
18:13<halk>Hang on - all that does is mount them
18:13<halk>So if I comment out I'll still be able to diagnose it remotely through a shell
18:13<Arcade>yep that is all /etc/fstab does is mount
18:15<Arcade>basically on boot /ect/fstab is read and mounted. Mounting drives can be done manually using #mount
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18:15<halk>Yeah I remember that
18:15<halk>I've had this server for years, periodically I have to do stuff on it but I forget everything by the next time
18:16<Arcade>No problem see if that works if not it may be /dev/sda
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18:17<halk>Plus I'm exhausted, I had workmen in putting a new bathroom in and I've not had a day off for... etc
18:17<halk>Right that worked. The server is back, samba shares are appearing on this PC and I can shell in
18:18<halk>Yeah, all working fine. I'll sniff out which drive is faulty and that'll be that
18:19<Arcade>All right then like magic :)
18:19<halk>Thanks Arcade. If it'd happened on a day off when I'm not so tired I could have probably got around it but I've no time and patience just now!
18:19<halk>Good night!
18:20<Arcade>have a good evening halk
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19:30<DrJoel>Greetings. A recent update in testing has broken sound support for me and made it so that the only way to reboot the system is using magic-sysrq (/sbin/shutdown seems to loop). Is there some way I can usefully contribute to fixing this?
19:31<DrJoel>I'm not even sure which package I would file a bug on.
19:31<annadane>ask in #debian-next for testing
19:31<DrJoel>annadane: Thank you
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22:21<RayzrShrp>is there a way to make the output of systemctl status only show the master process without the nested sub-processes?
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