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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-04-11

---Logopened Tue Apr 11 00:00:03 2017
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01:10-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debianppc #debian-next #debian
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02:03-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian #debian-devel-changes #debian-qa #debian-kde
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03:48-!-Gromit_ is "Jan-Hendrik Palic" on #sex.ger #sex.de #sex #debian
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04:47<s0ren>Hi. If i install the current Debian 9 testing image, is it then upgradable to the stable release once it is available or will i need to re-image/dist upgrade?
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04:48<pipedream>dist-upgrade should be fine
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04:49<itd>s0ren: If you have the right content in sources.list it is possible. #debian-next for details.
04:50<s0ren>Thanks. Will the default entries in sources.list do, or should i just update it once "stretch" is stable?
04:51<itd>s0ren: I think the default is fine, again #debian-next for details regarding testing.
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05:02<MWelchUK>Hi all, it appears that pypi.debian.net is down. Is this something that is already known?
05:03<petn-randall>MWelchUK: It's not an official service, but you can ping the person listed in 'host -t TXT pypi.debian.net'.
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05:05<MWelchUK>petn-randall: Thanks, will do.
05:05<petn-randall>MWelchUK: But apparently #debian-python has already picked up the news :)
05:06<MWelchUK>petn-randall: Too late. Email sent ;-)
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06:36<username>hello, can u help me with apt errors after security updates?
06:36<username>dovecot-mysql : Depends: dovecot-core (= 1:2.2.13-12~deb8u2) but 1:2.2.13-12~deb8u1 is installed
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06:37<jm_>!bat
06:37<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
06:37<grove>username: What are you trying to do
06:38<username>i just updated dovecot packages, but the update was not successful - service is running, but aptitude is unusable
06:41<itd>username: Please do what dpkg told you.
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06:47<Asharas>Hi! I have a problem with a usb stick after dd an ISO, linux only sees 10MB and windows the rest (7+GB). I think both do not aknowledge partitions but I don't know how to force them to do so. Any lead to help my solution research?
06:47<username>after dovecot update by apt update && apt-upgrade [ http://paste.debian.net/927005/ ]
06:47<jm_>Asharas: what motivates you to ask in #debian though?
06:47<grawity>Asharas: are you trying to get rid of that iso and make it a normal USB stick again?
06:47<Asharas>I tried a partprobe, new partition tables, no use
06:47<Asharas>I do run on debian jm_
06:48<grawity>just wiping out the partition tables should be good enough
06:48<grawity>since that's really the only place such information is stored – dd doesn't write to any magic areas
06:48<jm_>Asharas: ok so you have a problem with partition "visibility" on debian then?
06:48<grawity>that said, I've seen USB sticks which just ignore some writes
06:49<Asharas>I tried a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4M count=100 but it returns an error saying there is no space.
06:49<Asharas>I think the kernel doesn't see properly the usb stick
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06:50<Asharas>should I try a shred on /dev/sdb?
06:50<jm_>does fdisk show partitions correctly?
06:50<Asharas>nope, 10MiB
06:51<jm_>username: your problem is that stopping the service fails, why does it fail?
06:51<Asharas>windows does not see the 10MiB part but sees 7+GiB part
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06:52<jm_>which ISO is it then?
06:53<Asharas>ubuntu 16 ISO
06:53<username>jm_: stopping by "service dovecot stop" is working: systemctl status dovecot.service return Active: inactive (dead) since Tue 2017-04-11 12:52:07 CEST; 2s ago
06:54<Asharas>I know, not debian, but I still run my laptop on debian an I use it for that kind of work, so I'm asking here...
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06:55<jm_>username: try invoke-rc.d dovecot stop; echo $?
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06:56<jm_>ok don't have ubuntu iso handy to check and can't download it now
06:56<username>jm_: invoke-rc.d dovecot stop; echo $? return 0 and stopped the service
06:57<jm_>username: does it work if you now run dpkg --pending --configure
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06:58<Asharas>any idea to my problem jm_ ?
06:58<jm_>Asharas: <jm_> ok don't have ubuntu iso handy to check and can't download it now
06:58<username>jm_: there are still dependency problems [ http://paste.debian.net/927006/ ]
06:59<Asharas>oh ok, thanks anyway
06:59<jm_>username: right, try upgrading it again, possibly with -f
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07:18<username>jm_: now successful with upgrade -f but to new version 1:2.2.13-12~deb8u3
07:19<username>jm_: thanks for your help, but i do not know where the problem was
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07:20<grove>username: As jm_ said, it was with stopping dovecot, maybe dovecot has some log that can offer some insight into why it wouldn't stop otherwise there's not much hope of finding out
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07:22<username>grove: yea, that is possible, thanks for help one more time
07:23<jm_>username: one of the pre/post scripts failed, and when that happens, dpkg can't continue
07:23<jm_>the reason for the failure was that ^^^^
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07:33<jsuisunchat>How can I change the default kernel in grub? There is submenu debian and there are the kernels and their entries...
07:34<jsuisunchat>I know /etc/default/grub GRUB_DEFAULT=3
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07:36<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: You already answered your question. Since it starts counting at zero, 3 will be the single user mode of the 2nd kernel, though.
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08:02<Rumple>Any way to set both firs and files as 644 using umask?
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08:02<grawity>directories must have +x in order to be usable
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08:02<grawity>so umask of 022 will always result in 0644 for files and 0755 for directories
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08:03<Rumple>grawity: ah thanks, didn't know about +x was required for directories
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08:35<pgimeno>Where can I get the source of icedove 24.7.0-1~deb7u1 ?
08:35<petn-randall>,v icedove
08:35<judd>Package: icedove on amd64 -- wheezy: 38.7.0-1~deb7u1; jessie: 1:45.3.0-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 1:45.6.0-2~deb7u1; stretch: 1:45.8.0-3; sid: 1:45.8.0-3
08:35<petn-randall>pgimeno: Maybe from archive.debian.net, but that is ancient.
08:36<cruncher>pgimeno, snapshot.debian.net
08:36<cruncher>sorry, snapshot.debian.org
08:37<pgimeno>petn-randall: already tried, but thanks. cruncher: thanks, trying
08:37*cruncher just noticed .net is forwarded too
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08:39<pgimeno>there it is, thanks cruncher
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08:41<pgimeno>is this an appropriate place for icedove support? I'm having an issue, I was going to look at the source just in case but I'd like to use that as a last resource
08:42-!-mode/#debian [+l 820] by debhelper
08:42<petn-randall>pgimeno: Which release are you using? That icedove version is not supported by Debian or upstream.
08:43<pgimeno>petn-randall: I'm on Wheezy, I just haven't updated in a while. I understand the concern, thanks.
08:44<blast007>so why not update and see if the update fixes your issue?
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08:47<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: no! I have asked a question. There is an entry called Debian GNU/Linux inside there are kernels!
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08:48<blast007>jsuisunchat: are you having a problem with the default kernel that grub is picking?
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08:51<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: Your question was how to change the default kernel in grub. And you already gave the answer yourself: Change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.
08:52<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: don't you know that by default there is the main entry called Debian GNU/Linux and the kernels are inside
08:52<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: don't you know that by default there is the main entry called Debian GNU/Linux and the kernels are inside?
08:52<pgimeno>blast007: icedove and iceweasel updates have historically (for me) broken more things than they have fixed. I prefer to stay with this version until Stretch is released (then I will change everything, including computer, 32->64 bits...)
08:53<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: I do ... how is that relevant to your question?
08:53<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: you're talking nonsense how would grub choose a kernel if it is not inside the entry called Debian GNU/Linux?
08:57<szulup>:t
08:58<itd>jsuisunchat: Maybe GRUB doesn't care how the entry is called? :)
08:58<jsuisunchat>NO. It cares
08:58<jsuisunchat>check yourself
08:58<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: grub doesn't care about submenus. Every entry gets an internal number starting from 0.
08:58<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: I did? Maybe you're misunderstanding how it works?
08:58<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: where can i figure it out the entries?
08:59<itd>jsuisunchat: Sorry, I cannot check that. How did you test that it cares?
08:59<jsuisunchat>cat /etc/grub/grub.cfg?
08:59<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: Maybe if you state your problem more clearly we could give you a clear-cut answer.
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09:00<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: i'm telling you that by default debian kernels are placed inside the entry Debian GNU/Linux
09:00<jsuisunchat>am I right?
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09:01<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: No, the first kernel is not in the submenu.
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09:02<petn-randall>!goal
09:02<dpkg>Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
09:02<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: ^^^
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09:04<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: are you kidding me? less /boot/grub/grub.cfg
09:04<jsuisunchat>"menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option "
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09:08<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: if i boot the machine up I see Debian GNU/Linux > enter > the kernel are here so...
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09:12<petn-randall>I don't have time for this.
09:12<petn-randall>*plonk*
09:12<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: fuck you and get out :p
09:13<jsuisunchat>you were trying to tell me a lie... there is no an entry called Debian GNU/Linux by default...
09:13<jsuisunchat>that's a lie, there is
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09:16<blast007>jsuisunchat: on my Jessie install, the first item is "Debian GNU/Linux". That does not show me a list of kernels when I hit Enter on it, it just boots into Debian. The second item is "Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux". This one lists my kernel and a recovery mode for the kernel.
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09:18<jsuisunchat>blast007: is there a way to change the default kernel for Debian GNU/Linux?
09:18<blast007>jsuisunchat: are you having a problem with the default kernel that grub is picking?
09:19<jsuisunchat>I want a different one
09:19<blast007>why?
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09:20<jsuisunchat>Because I must
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09:21<blast007>why?
09:21<jsuisunchat>don't ask
09:22<blast007>well, have fun
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09:22<themill>context is often helpful
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09:39<LoZIoNe>buongiorno a tutti
09:39<itd>LoZIoNe: Hello.
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09:51<tmh1999>Hi everyone, I have a question and hope some guru could shed some light :) I wondering how Debian packages are built ? I mean some kind of scripts/recipes for all/each packages, including their patches. Thank you :)
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09:51<EmleyMoor>I'm getting an X Window System error when I try to start cheese... how do I work out what it actually means?
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09:52<themill>!source package
09:52<dpkg>A source package is a set of files used to make a Debian binary <package>. The main file is the Debian source control file (<dsc>) which lists the other required files; use "dget http://.../foo.dsc" (see <devscripts>) to download the dsc and all referenced files. There is also a <tarball> and (usually) patches in <diff.gz> or <debsrc3.0> format. The dsc contains checksums and is cryptographically signed by the uploader. <policy> <nmg>
09:53<itd>EmleyMoor: Post the full error here or if it is longer than 2 lines use paste.debian.net.
09:53<tmh1999>themill : thanks. I will have a look
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09:54<blast007>tmh1999: depending how much detail you're wanting, there's also this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
09:55<EmleyMoor>http://paste.debian.net/927035/
09:55<tmh1999>blast007 : some thing like this : https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/boost
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10:01<itd>tmh1999: https://sources.debian.net/src/boost-defaults/1.42.0.1/ maybe.
10:02<tmh1999>itd : cool ! That's what I have looking for. The source packages including .dsc is cool. I want to look into history like this web interface too. Thank you !
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10:04<tmh1999>itd, blast007, themill : Hah : https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/. Thank you gentlemen !
10:05<themill>not all packages are there
10:05<tmh1999>hah good to know. I'll try my luck
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10:11<tmh1999>themill : how about build log, you know ?
10:11<themill>buildd.debian.org
10:12<tmh1999>themill : nice, thanks
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10:13<itd>tmh1999: tracker.debian.org
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10:14<itd>EmleyMoor: No idea, sorry.
10:15<tmh1999>itd : this package has link to all other sources I mentioned above. nice
10:15<tmh1999>*this url
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10:42<stupid>hello
10:42<Julian>sup
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10:44<stupid>hy julian
10:44<Julian>what?
10:45<stupid>where you come from?
10:46<Julian>why dose evryone ask me that?
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10:47<grove>!chat
10:47<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
10:47<Julian>ok jezz
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10:58<EmleyMoor>Still a bit annoyed that cheese won't run (and please don't suggest more heat!)
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11:05<iflema>wait until it grows legs and walks away
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11:07<EmleyMoor>If software starts growing legs I'll be alarmed
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11:45<pgimeno>If I want to debug a package with debug info, where should I put the source? In my case, I'm installing icedove, icedove-dbg and unpacking the source package in my home. How would I make the source available for the debugger to see it?
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11:47<pgimeno>Or does the -dbg contain the source already?
11:48<petn-randall>pgimeno: The source is not needed for debugging.
11:48<petn-randall>pgimeno: Why don't you just upgrade to a supported icedove version?
11:49<petn-randall>pgimeno: Even if you'd find a bug, upstream will likely just ask you to reproduce it in a supported version.
11:49<pgimeno>petn-randall: I suspect this is a generic problem. A certificate is being filtered out and I want to know in which stage.
11:49<pgimeno>That will help me identify the cause, that I am now fairly convinced is not a bug in Iceweasel at all.
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11:50<petn-randall>!goal
11:50<dpkg>Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
11:50<petn-randall>and also
11:50<petn-randall>!xy problem
11:50<dpkg>Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
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11:51<pgimeno>Well, that's a conundrum. I have a problem with a version of Iceweasel that is not supported, so I can't ask for support. Therefore, I'm trying to find the solution by myself, but when asking for help in doing so, I'm told to explain what my problem is, which I can't because it's a version not supported. What should I do?
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11:52<petn-randall>pgimeno: Why don't you upgrade to a supported installation?
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11:54<pgimeno>petn-randall: Because upgrading will probably break more things than it will fix, as has been my past experience, and I am fairly convinced that it won't solve my issue, that has more to do with me doing something wrong with the installation of certificates.
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11:54<pgimeno>that I suspect* has more to do...
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11:55*petn-randall shrugs.
11:56<pgimeno>So, again, I thought I would need the source to pause on a certain code line and trace the code step by step.
11:56<pgimeno>Am I wrong on that?
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11:56<petn-randall>pgimeno: What error are you getting in icedove?
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11:57<pgimeno>petn-randall: No error. A certificate is not appearing in a list where others do.
11:57<petn-randall>pgimeno: a CA?
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11:57<pgimeno>petn-randall: no, a client certificate for authentication with an email server that I control
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12:01<blast007>pgimeno: could always make a Live USB/DVD, boot to that, install the latest icedove/thunderbird from the repo, and see if the issue occurs there as well
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12:03<EmleyMoor-laptop>My main machine is starting in emergency mode... I'm not sure why. I've looked through the output of journalctl -xb without finding much I can see the cause of... can someone advise?
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12:04<EmleyMoor-laptop>Is it primarily red lines I'm looking for in it? If so a lot relate to filesystems but I cannot see the cause of the problem
12:06<pgimeno>blast007: Not that easy. If I use this machine, that would require a downtime of several hours, that I can't afford because this machine is being used as a server. I don't have any other machine handy at this moment.
12:06<EmleyMoor-laptop>First red is hid-generic 0003:046D:C1214.0002: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed: -1 - but I don't believe that to be significant
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12:08<petn-randall>pgimeno: As a server? I hope LAN only.
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12:11<EmleyMoor-laptop>Ah, fixed
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12:21<EmleyMoor>I have a need to mount some filesystems after my system is largely up... on a typical stable Debian setup, what's the best way (they each need just mount /mountpoint run, as root)
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12:21<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: /etc/fstab
12:22<EmleyMoor>petn-randall: No, they are in there, but have to be "noauto"
12:22<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: Why?
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12:24<EmleyMoor>Because if they're not noauto they fail and force the machine into emergency mode at startup
12:24<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: Why do they fail though?
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12:27<pgimeno>maybe /etc/rc.local?
12:27<EmleyMoor>Because they are of an unsuitable nature for mounting in that way.
12:27<EmleyMoor>pgimeno: Believe that's deprecated
12:27<pgimeno>well, whatever its substitute is
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12:28<EmleyMoor>I have the commands in there already, commented out, as it happens...
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12:28<itd>EmleyMoor: Create your own systemd service that mount them when the system is up?
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12:31<EmleyMoor>itd: That's what I want to do...
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12:33<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: Are they network filesystems, or what is the reason?
12:34<EmleyMoor>petn-randall: Cannot be precise about the reason, but they need fuse/libguestfs
12:34<EmleyMoor>I've found what I need to do now
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12:50<lindi->EmleyMoor: you can use the "nofail" option https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.mount.html
12:50<lindi->EmleyMoor: and x-systemd.automount¶
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12:51<thoreau>Hi
12:51<EmleyMoor>lindi-: I'll look into that as a future refinement
12:52<thoreau>I'm failing to install mysql-server-5.5 from Debian's repository.
12:52<thoreau>I've tried it through Synaptic and the Terminal.
12:53<thoreau>Synaptic returns the following error: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/30d2a8fe/
12:53<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... it's failing to add the group...
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12:57<pdo_fn14>thoreau: https://serverfault.com/questions/548010/ubuntu-12-04-unable-to-add-or-delete-a-user-named-mysql
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13:08<d3d83at>i have a project that requires Python 3.6, and have downloaded and compiled Python 3.6 on a fresh minimal install of Debian 8 x64, however I am getting an error when trying to setup the dependencies for the application (private application), due to (my best guess no python-dev or python setup tools). What I would like to know, is when and/or how can I just
13:08<d3d83at>install Python 3.6 from a debian repo --- stable only seems to have 2.4, which won't work for what I need.
13:09<d3d83at>(sorry --- stable only seems to have 3.4 ~~ correction )
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13:18<itd>judd: checkbackport python3.6
13:18<judd>Backporting package python3.6 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
13:18<itd>d3d83at: ^ a package exists. You could try to backport it.
13:19<d3d83at>hmm... that sounds like a plan, never done that before. how do i backport ?
13:20<itd>dpkg: tell d3d83at about ssb
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13:21<thoreau>Hello again.
13:22<thoreau>I posted an error I got trying to install mysql here not a while ago, this one: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/30d2a8fe/
13:22<thoreau>This was recommended to me as a possible solution: https://serverfault.com/questions/548010/ubuntu-12-04-unable-to-add-or-delete-a-user-named-mysql
13:23<thoreau>Now I've gotten a different error from Synaptic trying to install it.
13:23<d3d83at>thoreau : try deleting this file : /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.54-0+deb8u1_amd64.deb , and try again
13:24<thoreau>This: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.54-0+deb8u1_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1"
13:24<itd>dpkg: bat
13:24<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
13:24<itd>thoreau: ^
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13:26<d3d83at>if that fails, you can always use the mysql reporistory https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/
13:26<itd>d3d83at: dpkg should have told you how to backport. If you have any further questions, do ask.
13:27<d3d83at>itd - i am working through that now. what is "sid" .. an earlier release name of debian ?
13:27<itd>dpkg: frankendebian
13:27<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
13:27<itd>d3d83at: thoreau ^ don't do that.
13:27<itd>dpkg: tell d3d83at about sid
13:28<d3d83at>itd -- frankendebian , cute. figured the best place to get a compile of mysql would be -- mysql directly :)
13:28<thoreau>Yeah, I already have the fear of deviating from debian's repository installed in me. XD
13:29<d3d83at>the packages are no-conflict as well, "mysql-community-server" instead of "mysql-server" which i felt was respectful
13:30<thoreau>Tried deleting the .deb package, and installing it again. But it just downloaded the package and failed again :\
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13:30<thoreau>I'll go for what dpkg suggested now.
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13:32<pgimeno>To whom may interest, I found how to set the path for the source in gdb. First use 'l' to attempt to list and let it fail to see the error message, then use the gdb command 'set substitute-path' documented here: https://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Source-Path.html#set-substitute_002dpath
13:36<itd>thoreau: Don't forget to share the url of the paste here. ;)
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13:40<thoreau>itd: Here is the result from the command sudo apt install mysql-server: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e90be5b0/
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13:41<thoreau>itd: And here is the result from "apt-cache policy": https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6ca66251/
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13:50<itd>thoreau: The error 10 reported means "can't update group file", this may be caused because a lock file exists (which is supposed to prevent that two changes can occur at the same time).
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13:51<thoreau>So I would have to delete such lock file?
13:51<thoreau>itd.
13:52<d3d83at>it may also be due to lack of permissions, you can try running the apt-get install with su/sudo
13:52<itd>thoreau: Yes, but you should think about why it (still) exists.
13:53<itd>d3d83at: That would look different.
13:53<itd>thoreau: Is someone else working on that machine?
13:56<thoreau>Just me itd. Well, due to the previous solution that was proposed, I've added mysql by the end of the group+ list: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/1833c959/
13:56<thoreau>I'll delete it in order to return to default
13:57<thoreau>Ok, no effect. XD
13:58<itd>thoreau: Does the file '/etc/group.lock' exist?
13:58<thoreau>It doesn't itd.
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14:00<thoreau>Hm...
14:01<d3d83at>isn't that pretty
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14:02<d3d83at>in order to backport, i need both python 2.7 and python 3.4 -- when the end goal is python 3.6
14:03<d3d83at>`sudo apt-get install packaging-dev debian-keyring devscripts equivs` does this to me https://paste.debian.net/927087/
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14:05<itd>thoreau: And I guess neither does, '/etc/gshadow.lock'?
14:06<real007>not are root never in my debian
14:06<real007>not cant help i am beginer
14:06<real007>use Unix from 20 years ago
14:06<itd>real007: What do you want to do?
14:06<real007>Sco UNix/freeBSD Unix
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14:07<thoreau>Also not itd.
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14:07<real007>Only are 7 years with debian, was are 9 years without network in my house was enter in my spanish computer of my gobernament
14:07<real007>go smoke an hear music, itd talk to me
14:07<real007>not are
14:08<thoreau>real007, what's your native language?
14:08<real007>catalán
14:08<real007>of Barcelona
14:08<real007>41 years old
14:08<thoreau>real007 habla espanhol?
14:08<real007>but i have face of 35 or 34 years, i am beautiful how brad pit
14:08<thoreau>Ooook...
14:09<annadane>real007, i told you before to keep it to #debian-offtopic
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14:09<annadane>stop trolling the channel
14:09<real007>and have 8 extrasensorial perceptions
14:09<real007>ok
14:09<real007>not are
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14:13<annadane>if you need, there's also the spanish channel
14:13<annadane>!es
14:13<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
14:13<annadane>and for catalan it's #debian-catalan
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14:17<pgimeno>I've found why icedove was not showing the certificate. The code is the same in current head, https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/manager/ssl/nsNSSIOLayer.cpp#line-2235 - gdb shows that it's removing from the list the ones I'm interested in, because they are not "issued by CAs supported by the server", so indeed updating would not have solved the problem at all. Now, with that out of the way...
14:17<pgimeno>What would be the best channel to learn how to make a server support all of the certificates needed for a client certificate to work?
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14:18<grawity>depends on the server
14:19<grawity>usually there's a setting like "SSL CA certificates"
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14:22<itd>thoreau: No idea, sorry. My best guess is that groupadd cannot write+close the file /etc/group to store the changes. The question 'why?' is still open.
14:23<thoreau>I think so itd. When I try to write it in manually I also get that it is "being used".
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14:23<thoreau>Could I check which process is using it?
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14:24<lindi->thoreau: how do you "write manually"?
14:24<thoreau>By opening the file in gedit using the root, itd.
14:25<lindi->thoreau: what does "ls -ld /etc/group; echo >> /etc/group" from a terminal say?
14:26<thoreau>bash: /etc/group: Permission denied
14:26<thoreau>I'll add sudo.
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14:27<thoreau>"-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1018 Mar 11 21:20 /etc/group"
14:27<lindi->thoreau: nope, run it from a root terminal
14:27<lindi->thoreau: what about "getenforce"?
14:28<thoreau>As root, "bash: getenforce: command not found"
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14:30<lindi->thoreau: did you just run "sudo echo >> /etc/group" or actually use a root terminal?
14:31<thoreau>root@user:/home/thoreau# ls -ld /etc/group; echo >> /etc/group
14:32<lindi->thoreau: odd
14:32<lindi->thoreau: how about "touch /etc/testfile"?
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14:34<thoreau>"root@user:/home/thoreau# touch /etc/testfile [linebreak] root@user:/home/thoreau#"
14:34<lindi->thoreau: ok so /etc/ is writable normally
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14:35<lindi->thoreau: "lsattr /etc/group; ls -lZ /etc/group; getfacl /etc/group"?
14:36<thoreau>Here lindi-: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/af9fb2db/
14:37<lindi->thoreau: all that looks normal
14:38<thoreau>I guess I'll try to install it from the MySQL repository instead. :\
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14:39<lindi->thoreau: this is a bigger problem than mysql surely
14:39<thoreau>O_O*
14:39<lindi->thoreau: is there something else that is odd about your setup?
14:40<thoreau>I don't think so... I get all my applications from debian's repository.
14:41<thoreau>Jessie and jessie-backports.
14:41<lindi->ok, sorry but I ran out of ideas :/
14:42<thoreau>It's ok. Thanks lindi-. XD
14:45<itd>lindi-: Not sure if it's worth anything, but I think groupadd fails, because the function commonio_close [1] fails. http://sources.debian.net/src/shadow/1:4.2-3%2Bdeb8u1/lib/commonio.c/#L911
14:46<pgimeno>grawity: I install it by copying it to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates, then running sudo update-ca-certificates. It reports those as added. I then restart postfix. Is there any additional step I need to run, in order for these certificates to be presented to the email client?
14:47<grawity>yes
14:47<itd>(It is called via gr_close by close_file, where the error message originates from. http://sources.debian.net/src/shadow/1:4.2-3%2Bdeb8u1/src/groupadd.c/?hl=261#L256 )
14:47<grawity>pgimeno: the main CA certificates db is for use by *clients* when they verify a server's cert
14:47<grawity>pgimeno: when a *server* verifies client certs, it almost always has a separate setting, since trusting all those CAs would defeat the point
14:48<grawity>pgimeno: for postfix, that's smtpd_tls_CAfile
14:48<thoreau>itd, lindi-, maybe apparmor is blocking such access?
14:49<pgimeno>grawity: Aaah! Thank you!
14:51<lindi->thoreau: apparmor is not on by default, have you enabled it?
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14:52<thoreau>Nope. XD
14:53<thoreau>Actually, there's going to be a CryptoParty in my city and the creator of AppArmor will be there.
14:53<thoreau>I'm planning on asking him how the fuck does one use this.
14:53<thoreau>Or something along those lines.
14:54<thoreau>Excuse my language. -_-
14:56<itd>thoreau: Could you please paste the output of 'strace /usr/sbin/groupadd -g 128 mysql'?
14:57<pgimeno>Thanks a lot, grawity! All solved now. I've set smtpd_tls_CApath to where the CAs that icedove has to show in are stored. And indeed that ended my suffering: the certificates now appear in Icedove's list!
14:57<pgimeno>show in -> show
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14:58<thoreau>itd: "root@user:/home/thoreau# strace /usr/sbin/groupadd -g 128 mysql [linebreak] bash: strace: command not found"
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14:59<itd>thoreau: It is part of "strace", if you don't mind installing that.
14:59<pgimeno>thanks also to petn-randall, cruncher, blast007 and others who tried to help for their patience, it's been a long ride!
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15:03<d3d83at>thank you guys. backporting is too much of a pain -- so I wrote this https://gist.github.com/microvb/636ba9bd296a354347d31add70a311e6 to compile from source after having Python2 and Python3 installed so it compiles everything as on a fresh box with no python, it seems to skip compiling things I need/want like tests, and setup tools.
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15:05<thoreau>itd: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d9f1f71b/
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15:08<cruncher>pgimeno, you are welcome
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15:12<itd>thoreau: IMHO the culprit: 'rename("/etc/group+", "/etc/group") = -1 EBUSY (Device or resource busy)'
15:14<thoreau>It's already impressive that you where able to draw a conclusion from this pile of unreadable text XD
15:14<thoreau>Ok, let's try that.
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15:16<thoreau>Resource busy :\
15:17<itd>thoreau: What did you do?
15:17<itd>Maybe related: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/04/msg00995.html
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15:19<thoreau>"root@user:/home/thoreau# rm /etc/group"
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15:19<grawity>sounds like you have something mounted there
15:19<grawity>check `findmnt` please?
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15:21<itd>thoreau: ^ (Do you use firejail?)
15:21<thoreau>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/3b14b618/
15:21<thoreau>I do itd.
15:21<grawity>hmm, perhaps in a different mount namespace then
15:21<itd>thoreau: Sseriously?
15:21<itd>judd: bug 822808
15:21<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/822808 in src:linux (closed, moreinfo): «linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: groupadd ends in EBUSY on /etc/group»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-04-27; last modified: 2016-05-27.
15:22<itd>thoreau: last message.
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15:22<thoreau>Yes, why is it shocking? XD
15:22<itd>thoreau: Well, yes. That does explain it.
15:23<thoreau>So, I should try installing it with no Firejail process running?
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15:23<itd>thoreau: No idea how firejail works, but why not. :)
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15:24<cruncher>thoreau, just for addtional information, could you tell the output of: lsattr /etc/group*
15:25<thoreau>Huuuuh... "adduser doesn't work while firejail in use #270"
15:25<thoreau>Sure cruncher.
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15:26<thoreau>"root@user:/home/thoreau# lsattr /etc/group [linebreak] -------------e-- /etc/group"
15:26<grawity>hmm, stable doesn't have `lsns` yet, does it?
15:27<cruncher>thoreau, and /etc/group+ (hence the '*')
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15:27<thoreau>Same result cruncher.
15:27<grawity>the attributes aren't going to have anything
15:27<cruncher>thoreau, ok
15:28<cruncher>aren't as in shouldn't, correct
15:28<grawity>if firejail uses mount namespaces, and bind-mounts its own version of /etc/group inside them, then the mountpoint will show up as "busy" even outside that namespace
15:29<itd>thoreau: bye. :)
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15:29<thoreau>bye itd, thank you!
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16:57<GoGi>Can i make /var/tmp a symlink to /home/tmp?
16:57<GoGi>since I want this to reside on the home filesystem
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17:48<realusfictus>hi test test
17:48<realusfictus>can ppl reed dis?
17:48<mtn>no
17:49<realusfictus>uhhuhuhuhuh
17:49<mtn>!ask
17:49<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:50-!-KindOne_ [kindone@h156.241.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #debian
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17:50<realusfictus>methane, you not
17:50<realusfictus>uhuhuuhhuhu
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17:53<realusfictus>so can i ask debian related questions here?
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17:57<realusfictus>what distros are you all on?
17:57<annadane>this is a support question
17:58<annadane>channel
17:58<zeta>-> #debian-offtopic
17:58<annadane>for technical questions people need help with. if you want to ask about favorite distros go to #debian-offtopic
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17:58<realusfictus>ok thnks
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18:25<Rubissar>hi !
18:26<retrospectacus>Rubissar: hi
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18:28<Rubissar>I need help. How to create my own irc channel and manage it ?
18:28<mtn>heh
18:28<retrospectacus>first join (create) it, then type /msg chanserv help
18:29<Rubissar>ok I will try
18:30<Rubissar>ty ^^
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18:34<retrospectacus>then download some IRC bots to talk to :)
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18:55<thoreau>Hello there.
18:56<thoreau>I'm failing to connect to debian's repository in the onion server.
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18:56<thoreau>Getting responses like "Err tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion jessie/main amd64 Packages [linebreak] Failed to connect to localhost port 9050: Connection refused"
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18:57<thoreau>This happened after I messed with the /etc/group file, so, that might be it.
18:57<thoreau>Though I don't know what to do about it.
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19:09<thoreau>Here's my group file: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6d09ea57/
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19:31<thoreau>Hello there.
19:31<thoreau>I'm failing to connect to debian's repository in the onion server.
19:31<thoreau>Getting responses like "Err tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion jessie/main amd64 Packages [linebreak] Failed to connect to localhost port 9050: Connection refused"
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19:32<thoreau>This happened after I messed with the /etc/group file, so, that might be it.
19:32<thoreau>Though I don't know what to do about it.
19:32<thoreau>Here's my group file: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6d09ea57/
19:32<retrospectacus>how is that supposed to work re: port 9050. What service is there?
19:33<Tjis>iirc, privoxy
19:33<thoreau>That's usually the port used by tor.
19:35<thoreau>Here, this is the full resul of running "sudo apt update": https://paste.debian.net/hidden/29156f46/
19:36<retrospectacus>well, whatever is suppose to listen there is not. Start the privoxy service or whatever
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19:38<Tjis>'sudo journalctl -t tor' might be useful
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19:38<Tjis>also systemctl status tor
19:40<thoreau>Tjis: Is "-t" an option for "journalctl"?
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19:41<thoreau>AS for systemctl, it confirms that tor is running. Which comes as no surprise, as I am browsing with it.
19:42<Tjis>thoreau: yes, short for type, filters the log to the things tor logged
19:42<Tjis>thoreau: 'ss -lptn' should tell you what programs are using what ports
19:42<Tjis>is tor using 9050 or something else?
19:42<Tjis>oh, you needt o sudo that
19:44<thoreau>Result of "sudo ss -lptn": https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a34be2cb/
19:46<Tjis>so 9150 apparently
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19:46<thoreau>Yeah, strange.
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19:46<Tjis>also, twice
19:46<thoreau>I believe I have that port blocked on my firewall.
19:46<Tjis>on my fresh tor install from just now I just have one port open, and it is 9050
19:46<Tjis>this is from stretch though
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19:47<thoreau>Hm... Jessie here. :\
19:48<thoreau>So, just let me understand this, is my tor connecting from 9150 and 9151?
19:48<Tjis>that's what it says, yes
19:48<Tjis>do you have two tor instances running maybe?
19:48<Tjis>or maybe you have a relay configured? I'm not very familiar with tor configuration
19:49<Tjis>actually, it is the same tor instance, as the pid shown there is the same
19:49<thoreau>No, I haven't configured a relay.
19:49<Tjis>this might be more something for a tor channel, if there is one
19:49<thoreau>So I belive I have those ports blocked by my firewall.
19:50<thoreau>But then, how can I be navigating using the tor browser?
19:51<retrospectacus>maybe the broswer was somehow made aware of the change to 9150
19:52<Tjis>'ss -p|grep tor-browser', assuming that is the name of the tor browser application, will tell you what it is connecting to
19:54<thoreau>https://paste.debian.net/927156/
19:55<Tjis>confusing. is the binary not called tor-browser or somesuch?
19:55<Tjis>anyway, you seem to have 3 sessions going into tor from yoru computer
19:56<Tjis>port 9151, so somehow they must have known
19:56<thoreau>O_O
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19:57<thoreau>Three sessions? I wonder what counts as a session...
19:58<thoreau>Opening the ports 9150 and 9151 in my firewall hasn't changed the results from "sudo apt update".
19:58<thoreau>The connection still gets refused.
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20:00<Tjis>"sudo ss -po state established '( dport = 9151 )'" to see what is connecting to your tor daemon there
20:00<Tjis>but probably, just 3 tabs
20:03<Tjis>thoreau: /etc/tor/torsocks.conf should have the configuration of what ports are being opened
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20:04<thoreau>Tjis, I wouldn't know ehre to begin... https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2ae4a861/ XD
20:04<thoreau>Ok, I'll check torsocks.conf
20:05<Tjis>the second tor port is apparently a control channel so it's not strange for that to be there
20:05<Tjis>thoreau: lol that command did not do what I expected
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20:06<thoreau>Well, I believe torsocks.conf is at its default: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2a913afb/
20:07<thoreau>It still points out to port 9050, Tjis.
20:08<Tjis>thoreau: anyway if you update your /etc/apt/sources.list to say 9150 you sould at least be able to update
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20:08<thoreau>Tjis: Can I specify ports through my sources.list?
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20:10<Tjis>thoreau: you already seemed to do so from the output of your update command
20:10<Tjis>ooh I misread, you do not
20:10<Tjis>possibly you just have to add :9150 to those urls
20:13<thoreau>Weird. Tjis, like this? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/748b5eb8/
20:13<Tjis>are you sure you are just running debian's packages, and not something else?
20:13<Tjis>after the .onion part
20:15<Tjis>ah
20:15<Tjis>it looks like torbrowser uses its very own tor session
20:15<Tjis>there's a good chance your daemon isn't even running
20:16<thoreau>Tjis, what about now? https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f82ecddb/
20:16<thoreau>My daemon? tor.service, you say?
20:17<Tjis>yes. I just installed torbrowser for myself, and it seems to spin up its very own version of tor
20:17<Tjis>so the one you got configured under /etc/tor/ is not the one running there
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20:18<Tjis>just try to restart the tor service and see if it works then
20:18<Tjis>we should probably have started there
20:19<thoreau>Ok, let's try that. Cnging the address in the sources list to "deb tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion:9150/debian/" didn't work.
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20:21<thoreau>Worked. XD
20:22<thoreau>Thanks Tjis.
20:22<thoreau>Can't believe it. XD
20:22<Tjis>lol it was always so simple
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20:22<Tjis>well then, as long as we learned
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20:23<thoreau>Another thing to add to my list of "before bothering someone in the IRC"
20:23<Tjis>thoreau: why get your packages over tor though?
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20:24<thoreau>Because NSA. ¬¬
20:24<Tjis>yes, they'll be very interested in you installing cowsay
20:24<thoreau>XD
20:25<thoreau>That's not the logic behind mass surveillence.
20:25<thoreau>It's not about what this or that individual might be doing.
20:26<thoreau>It's about what COULD we do to him whenever he steps out of the line or its is in or interest to exploit him.
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20:27<thoreau>I might not pose a threat now, but who knows, I might convert to Islamism and for some that's enough of a threat. XD
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22:22<thoreau>Hello there.
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22:23<thoreau>I've been trying to follow this guide over here, to setup wordpress: https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress
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22:23<thoreau>I stoped by the "Create a database step" or "cat ~/wp.sql | mysql --defaults-extra-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf"
22:24<thoreau>That preceded by sudo.
22:24<thoreau>Here is my result: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9088bf71/
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23:52<el>hola como estas
23:52<el>hola como estas
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