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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-04-13

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00:14<ryouma>my speakers are sounding very fuzzy. what is the likely cause of this? it couldn't be software, could it? i do not run pulseaudio
00:32<gry>try with headphones, any better or still the same? this helps to rule out hardware problems
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00:45<ryouma>gry: i will try to try with a different speaker as soon as i can. just cannot now and thought to ask if software was possible.
00:45<ryouma>there is no known hardware or software trigger, unless it's somebody tripping over a cord. but i think the cord has been taped the whole time.
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02:57<cherubim>i want to update mx-16 linux when i presse
02:57<cherubim>d reload button it is updating and it is showing updates
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02:59<jm_>what is mx-16 linux?
02:59<cherubim>lol it is os
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03:00<jm_>in that case ask on their forums for help, we only deal with debian here
03:01<cherubim>ok tahnks
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03:33<severus>Hi, which client you are using for the IRC ?
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03:34<severus>is recommended use scrollz?
03:35<jm_>use whatever you want, some of us use that too
03:36<severus>I know I can use whatever I want, I just ask to know if have some cons/pros, btw I am using Empathy
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03:37<severus>maybe scrollz have some features that others clients not, and make it better,
03:38<jm_>yeah best way is to try several and find out which one you like the most
03:40<severus>Thanks any way
03:46<ach>for X i would say smutty or kvirc
03:49<ach>well i did wrong i thought what meant is caused after smutty
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03:56<ach>it's called smuxi but my internet slowlyness won't let it say me for sure
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03:58<severus>ach: Thanks I'll try
03:58<ach>kk
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04:18<lindi->severus: quassel is pretty nice too
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04:59<koma>Anyone has idea on how to rsync debian-backports and debian-multimedia ? can't find a right rsync source.
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05:02<phillipsjk>I am curious what character a password in /etc/exim4/passwd.client is allowed to have.
05:03<phillipsjk>I get a timeout rather than a failure. Fetchmial seems to pull incomming mail with tthe same password.
05:03<phillipsjk>(using exim4 as a smarthost)
05:04<koma>uh are included in the main repo
05:04<koma>so nevermind
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05:05<ekeimaja>how do i fix
05:05<ekeimaja>the problem for error "socket was incorrect"
05:06<ekeimaja>with bumblebee? no one answer on their irc channel
05:06<phillipsjk>Trouble sooting is awkward becuase exim4 is now waiting 6 hour between attempts. (put off fixing it for a week after my webhost upgraded their end)
05:06<xinx>Hello guys. There is some weird trouble with wi-fi card on laptop. On installing process - this work fine, but now hardware blocked (rfkill says it). And acpi-listen command didn't get FN+F3 combination. What wrong with it?
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05:31<ekeimaja>what card you have?
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05:40<ekeimaja>in which dir are the icon images?
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05:53<hubot_>Hello!
05:54<itd>hubot_: Hello, how may we help yoU?
05:54<hubot_>1. I have problems with installing NVIDIA drivers.
05:54<hubot_>2. I need to install drivers for Intel HD Graphics 530
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05:56<hubot_>How's package with driver in debian repository for Intel HD Graphics 530?
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05:56<itd>hubot_: Please post the output of `lspci -nn` on paste.debian.net.
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05:57<hubot_>https://paste.debian.net/927387/
05:57<towo^work>for hybrid graphics you have to read about bumblebee
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05:58<hubot_>I have two graphics card in one laptop.
05:58<hubot_>*cards
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05:58<towo^work>not really
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05:59<towo^work>you have one primary card, the intel, which is the only connection to any display
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05:59<hubot_>What's the NVIDIA?
05:59<towo^work>and then you have a dGPU, the nvidia, which can only render in the framebuffer of the nvidia
06:01<towo^work>err, *in the framebuffer of the intel
06:02<towo^work>and as long you can't set the nvidia card as the only card in bios, you only can use bumblebee, since nvidia-prime isn't packaged in debian
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06:06<hubot_>Ok. I read.
06:06<hubot_>I hope it works.
06:06<xinx>info about my card https://pastebin.com/CniQ1XMv
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06:17<hubot_>I can't run debian system
06:18<hubot_>ath9k_htc: Failed to initialize the device
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06:20<hubot_>tty doesn't work
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07:05<BrainError404>Hi, can I know why I can't set iwconfig iface mode master even if iw says it supports ap mode?
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07:12<BrainError404>*tic toc tic toc tic toc*
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07:15<BrainError404>Wut
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07:30<itd>BrainError404: "Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you!"
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08:04<elvirolo>hi
08:04<itd>elvirolo: Hello.
08:04<elvirolo>is it possible to get the source of a Debian package on a machine which is not running Debian?
08:05<petn-randall>elvirolo: You can download it directly from packages.debian.org, but then you'll have to verify it's authenticity manually. 'apt-get source' automatically verifies it hasn't been tampered with.
08:05<elvirolo>petn-randall: Thank you.
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08:16<hubot_>I have problem with installing bumblebee
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08:25<hubot_>brb
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08:51<Stummi>is this patched in the current stable kernel? https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2016-10229
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08:51<itd>cve lookup CVE-2016-10229
08:51<itd>dpkg: cve lookup CVE-2016-10229
08:51<dpkg>Information about the security advisory CVE-2016-10229 may be found at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-10229
08:52<itd>Stummi: ^ looks like 'yes'.
08:52<Stummi>ah, didn't know that feature. Cool
08:52<Stummi>thanks
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08:53<lindi->Stummi: maybe it was never in debian in the first place?
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09:10<ekeimaja>can i add picture for user in login view?
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09:10<towo^work>depends on the login manager
09:11<ekeimaja>default
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09:12<itd>ekeimaja: GNOME, KDE, ... ?
09:12<ekeimaja>xfce
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09:14<itd>ekeimaja: Then your login manager is lightdm.
09:14<ekeimaja>ok
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09:15<itd>ekeimaja: You could try to create a file ".face" in your home that contains your picture.
09:15<ekeimaja>ok, i will try that
09:16<itd>ekeimaja: Or you could try this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/122177
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09:26<BrainError404>itd: I was trying random commands with dpkg
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09:28<BrainError404>Btw why I can't use iwconfig wlan0 mode master if iw says that this mode is supported?
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09:29<BrainError404>*that ap mode is supported
09:29<BrainError404>How can I found where's the problem or what i'm doing worng?
09:33<lindi->BrainError404: how have you configured hostapd?
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10:11<user01>mmm should i say yes? :) http://paste.debian.net/927448/ weird that it needs to uninstall kernel stuff for an html to pdf program it appears . . .
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10:21<iflema>user01: what kernel are you on? The header packages should not kill the system - they are for building suff against a kernel without having to have the full source
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10:22<user01>iflema, im using the one from backports . . . 4.9 i think
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10:22<user01>iflema, 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
10:22*iflema ofcourse you are
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10:23<iflema>user01: curious whats so speacial (to you) about 4.9?
10:24<iflema>driver/module?
10:24<user01>iflema, well i just kept with the backport kernels on my laptop back when jessie came out originally it didnt support docked multiscreens for my laptop
10:25<user01>iflema, so i compiled my own kernel with a module patch then it was more stable just to do backports once it was officially introduced into the kernel
10:26<iflema>k
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10:28<user01>iflema, i blame dell :P
10:28<iflema>sounds about right
10:28<iflema>=O
10:29<iflema>do eeeeet
10:29<user01>iflema, and possibly intel i suppose . . . but apparently the root cause was the buggy dell dock
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10:31<hamidi>hi all
10:32<hamidi>on an m4v with h265 codec, i get the following error in vlc:
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10:32<hamidi>VLC could not decode the format "hevc" (MPEG-H Part2/HEVC (H.265))
10:32<hamidi>what to do? (os is jessie)
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10:53<BrainError404>Again., can I know why I can't set iwconfig iface mode master even if iw says it supports ap mode?
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11:28<Omochao>hello, does anyone know how to get events from a wireless keyboard? I have been using evdev for USB keyboards but this wireless one is not showing up even though it uses a USB stick
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11:31<yulax>$ sudo apt-get install apt-transport-https
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11:31<yulax>E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found
11:32<yulax>N: is the package apt-transport-https installed?
11:32<yulax>>>> What gives?
11:32<Omochao>specifically, the keyboard is a Rapoo E9270P
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11:33<retrospectacus>yulax: you have to install it *before* using https in sources.list
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11:34<hubot_>Can anyone help me with installing bumblebee?
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11:41<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell hubot_ about bat
11:41<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell hubot_ about ask
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11:44<BrainError404>For the last time, can someone help me? I tried to set my wcard on ap mode with iw and I can't even if ap mode is supported
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11:45<hubot_>retrospectacus: I ask about why after executing command sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bumblebee-nvidia primus primus-libs:i386 I can't run Debian GNU/Linux and ctrl+alt+f2 doesn't work
11:47<hubot_>I see only blank screen with cryptsetup earlier output and blinking cursor
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11:48<hubot_>Debian doesn't react for ctrl+alt+f1-f7
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11:51<yulax>retrospectacus: i haven't edited sources.list
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11:54<yulax>i'm also having another problem - i installed linux-image-grsec-amd64, but it doesn't work at all. on my laptop, it just flashes the numlk and capslk led over and over. by comparison, regular linux-image-amd64 works flawlessly.
11:55<hubot_>I hope somebody help me with solving problems with drivers for graphic card.
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12:01<yulax>BrainError404: tell us exactly what you did (and it's rude to say "for the last time", btw) and what the behaviour was.
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12:19<BrainError404>yulax: I tried to change the mode of my wifi card to ap. but it won't change
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12:20<BrainError404>I writed # ifconfig wlan0 down , # iwconfig wlan0 mode master and it refuses the command, but with iw it says that ap mode is supported
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12:30<petn-randall>BrainError404: Can you paste the full command and error?
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12:34<BrainError404>petn-dandall: sure, but I must disconnect
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12:36*petn-randall must find an easier to type nick.
12:38<towo`>people should learn to use tab-key
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12:45<BrainError404>petn-randall: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
12:45<BrainError404> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
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12:55<BrainError404>petn-randall:
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12:58<petn-randall>BrainError404: No need to highlight me several times.
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12:58<petn-randall>BrainError404: And which command + output tells you this should work?
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13:02<petn-randall>13:12 <BrainError > *tic toc tic toc tic toc*
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13:02<annadane>the point of highlighting is so that people know they're being addressed; it flashes their irc client, so if it happens once why do you think you need to do it again?
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13:03<petn-randall>annadane: Yeah, I think they got the message.
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13:05<BrainError404>Lol
13:05<BrainError404>Using my messages with me
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13:06<BrainError404>petn-randall: I writed above, if you have seen this message you also have seen the command I pasted here
13:07<BrainError404>Btw if you don't want to scroll the chat again:
13:07<BrainError404>sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
13:07<BrainError404>sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master
13:07<annadane>sorry. i shouldn't have been hostile
13:08<petn-randall>BrainError404: You said "but with iw it says that ap mode is supported", I want to know which command it is you use, and it's output.
13:08<BrainError404>iw list
13:08<BrainError404>https://pastebin.com/7s4nWRKP
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13:09<petn-randall>BrainError404: I see, thanks. What model is this?
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13:10<BrainError404>It's in the title
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13:10<petn-randall>BrainError404: Is that one of the devices where you had to cut the firmware with b43fwcutter?
13:11<BrainError404>petn-randall: Yes
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13:11<petn-randall>BrainError404: I see. IIRC setting master mode by hand was disabled in libnl a few years back. That might be the problem you're seeing.
13:12<BrainError404>hmmmmm
13:12<BrainError404>I can enable it without edit source:
13:12<BrainError404>?
13:12<petn-randall>BrainError404: You don't. What problem are you trying to solve?
13:13<BrainError404>I want to switch ap/normal with a script
13:13<petn-randall>BrainError404: The just script to fire up hostapd when you need it.
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13:14<petn-randall>BrainError404: IIRC it was disabled because people set their wifi device to master mode and were confused why it didn't act as an AP. It's because a lot more things are needed in userspace for it to work.
13:15<petn-randall>Ironically, it only shifted the problem. Now people are confused why they can't set the master mode. :)
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13:19<ekeimaja>can i install drivers in live mode?
13:19<BrainError404>petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f0489272/
13:20<BrainError404>petn-randall: Btw sorry for the "tic toc tic toc" but I asked it many times and no one answer me
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13:20<petn-randall>BrainError404: Can you also show the command and config you used?
13:20<blast007>ekeimaja: what kind? most drivers are already there and may just need firmware. Exceptions would be proprietary drivers, like for nVidia.
13:20<BrainError404>Sure
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13:21<petn-randall>BrainError404: That is normal. If nobody knows the answer they won't respond. And we're all helping out here for free. So it's a quite impolite to expect a response. A better solution would be to ask if any more info is needed, or to provide as much context as possible in the first place.
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13:23<ekeimaja>exactly nvidia
13:23<ekeimaja>i have 660
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13:26<BrainError404>petn-randall: Sorry
13:26<BrainError404>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/07c7d488/
13:27<BrainError404>This is hostapd
13:28<towo`>ekeimaja, if you speak about binary-blob, no
13:28<petn-randall>BrainError404: How are you running it? 'hostpad -c /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf'? Or via system service?
13:29<petn-randall>BrainError404: Also, you might need to kill network-manager if you want to use that device with hostapd.
13:29<BrainError404>petn-randall: hostapd /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf
13:30<BrainError404>Ok, I'll try
13:30<BrainError404>See later
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13:30<petn-randall>BrainError404: I see. Maybe add a bunch of -dd on it to see more output.
13:30<petn-randall>hmpf
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13:32<Parslinux>hello?
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13:33<petn-randall>...
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13:36<BrainError404>petn-randall: It seems to work
13:37<petn-randall>BrainError404: yay \o/
13:37<BrainError404>Yuppy!
13:37<petn-randall>Congrats on getting it to work!
13:37<BrainError404>Btw what's the best way to run it in a separate process?
13:37<BrainError404>Thanks! ^-^
13:38<BrainError404>Or better, thanks for your help
13:38<BrainError404>*to run hostapd in a separate process
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13:39<BrainError404>Because (I think) if I simply run it with hostapd file.conf the caller script will be forever executed
13:40<annadane>Parslinux:
13:40<petn-randall>BrainError404: You could just use the system service for that.
13:40<annadane>!ask
13:40<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:40<BrainError404>petn-randall: Oh, right
13:41<BrainError404>I just had an idea
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13:54<ekeimaja>if i update my ubuntu to debian, and i have nvidia gtx 660, i can get along with installing nvidia-driver and mesa utils?
13:55<towo`>you can't update ubuntu to debian
13:55<ekeimaja>i know
13:55<towo`>then why you say so?
13:55<BrainError404>petn-randall: How can I enable a service so that it can be called by service myservice start but also doesn't boot at startup?
13:55<ekeimaja>i said badly, my point was about gpi
13:55<ekeimaja>gpu and drivers
13:56<BrainError404>petn-randall: Or I must use /etc/init.d/myservice start?
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14:01<phillipsjk>If that card is as old as I think it is, nouveau may work well with it as well.
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14:06<ekeimaja>and in live mode now that one software works perfect
14:06<ekeimaja>but how about steam and/or games
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14:10<petn-randall>BrainError404: 'systemctl disable hostapd' should stop it from starting at boot, then just use 'systemctl start hostapd' to start it.
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15:01<lupine>hmm, I'm having some trouble with a 2560x1440 display. about half the content seems to go into a hidpi mode, and the other half does not
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15:02<lupine>i915 graphics card, ordinary gnome desktop
15:02*petn-randall has a i915 running a 2560x1440 screen.
15:02<petn-randall>lupine: What exactly is/does hidpi mode?
15:03<lupine>it's where they pretend the screen is lower resolution than it is
15:03<lupine>so everything takes up many more pixels
15:05<ekeimaja>why does changing volume of vlc changes also master volume?
15:05<blast007>not exactly. it's more about scaling the interface so that elements/content are larger. https://wiki.debian.org/MonitorDPI
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15:06<petn-randall>ekeimaja: That is probably a pulseaudio feautre
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15:07<annadane>ekeimaja: this may not be accurate but in my experience it doesn't really
15:08<lupine>like https://ur.gs/screenshot.png
15:08<annadane>it looks like it does, according to the audio mixer, but then it tends to set itself back
15:08<annadane>but that's anecdotal...
15:08<petn-randall>lupine: Are some programs GTK2, some GTK3? Maybe that only works with the latter?
15:10<annadane>i've never kept tabs on how frequently it happens
15:10<lupine>I'm seeing this entirely within gtk3
15:10<lupine>although my kde applications are misbehaving too
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15:20<lupine>a-ha. setting org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 1 as well as the 'window scaling' in gnome-tweak-tool at least makes things consistent
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15:20<lupine>well, ish
15:21<real007>lupine you talk me?
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15:28<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: allthegayniggas complains about: lol
15:28<AllTheGayNiggas>.wiki gnaa
15:28<AllTheGayNiggas>lol the GNAA is back
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15:28<AllTheGayNiggas>Dark-Jedi: Come over to the Dark Side
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15:30<ekeimaja>i found fix
15:30<ekeimaja>https://classicforum.manjaro.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=1mtff1s31fql6u4lqv6iltqkl7&topic=10144.msg90414#msg90414
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15:33<ekeimaja>or not...
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15:36<HermanDE>Hello world.... I'm trying to have systemd set the device name of a USB ethernet... It keeps defaulting to the MAC address.. (Stretch) I've created a link file in /etc/systemd/network and tested with udevadm. Any suggestions?
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15:38<lupine>hmm, one of the pieces recommends using xrandr --scale but when I do that, the right hand side of the screen becomes inaccessible to the mouse cursor
15:39<lupine>trololol and so on
15:39<ekeimaja>now i messed something and cannot hear any audio
15:40<ekeimaja>oh, vlc was muted, lets test now...
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15:46<peter1138>yeah, --scale messes up :(
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16:01<ekeimaja>i just cannot understand what kind of human thinks it is good idea to give application control master volume and not fix it
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16:05<ryouma>all my sound problems were fixed when i purged pulseaudio. (except recently right now i get fuzzy audio for unknown reasons.)
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16:05<ryouma>(but i purged pulseaudio years ago and the fuzzy audio started a week ago)
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16:17<zykotick9>ryouma: i've also run without pulse for a number of years... but firefox's new version requires it, so it's only a matter of time :(
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16:24<phillipsjk>I found USB wireless headphones stopped "just working" after deleting pulseaudio (Linux mint, not debian). took me months to notice (prefer wired).
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16:26<phillipsjk>firefox has been getting less and less useable IMO.
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16:27<ekeimaja>i agree, i use vivaldi
16:28<ryouma>i got disconnected. last comments i saw were zykotick9's and phillipsjk's comments (thanks for those warnings)
16:28<ekeimaja>< phillipsjk> firefox has been getting less and less useable IMO.
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16:28<ekeimaja>23:27 < ekeimaja> i agree, i use vivaldi
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16:36<Wigo0101>Question... I have a laptop on which I installed debian (fresh install) which is maintained up to date.... This laptop is connected to a LAN with many many other users including jokers and hackers... university campus style... the LAN is then connected to internet via normal router... Can I assume that debian's security is good enough to leave it as it is ? Or should I take some steps in hardening iptables ?
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16:40<phillipsjk>Wigo0101, if you install things like webservers, Debian tries to enable them by default. other than that, I wouldn't worry *too much*.
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16:41<phillipsjk>!harden
16:41<dpkg>To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>.
16:42<ryouma>zykotick9: are you saying that after upgrade from jessie to the currently-frozen version of debian, that i might need to install pulseaudio, if i want audio in firefox to work? O.o. (ekeimaja: thanks.)
16:42<Wigo0101>phillipsjk, thanks for the advice :-)
16:42<zykotick9>ryouma: it's the backported or stretch version of firefox that now NEEDS pulse to use audio :(
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16:44<phillipsjk>zykotick9, but Windows doesn't have pulseaudio..
16:44<Wigo0101>dpkg, thanks :-) Will have a look !
16:44<dpkg>bitte, Wigo0101
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16:47<zykotick9>phillipsjk: maybe firefox won't hvae audio on that platform anymore ;)
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16:47<ryouma>zykotick9: :(
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16:49<david-e>hi, I'm working on setting up an old debian etch environment: is there a debian etch live CD available anywhere?
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16:50<ryouma>Wigo0101: there are also some great firewalls in debian you can add, which are wrappers around iptables, but not sure if you /need/ them. arno-iptables-firewall and ufw are lightweight and instructive examples. arno has debconf and i found this intro to be a highly informative, concise intro to it: http://linuxgazette.net/114/keeling.html .
16:52<ryouma>basically, i used to do iptables manually, but then decided that a maintainer will keep up with changes better than i will
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16:52<petn-randall>david-e: I think live CD just started with wheezy.
16:52<ekeimaja>what is best way to learn to use workspaces? on deskop i have dual screen but on laptop
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16:52<ryouma>(note: i have heard of something in the kernel that is newer than iptables, but don't know whether it is relevant to any decision about firewalls)
16:53<petn-randall>david-e: You might be able to deboostrap etch, if you only care about the user land. Or install it in a VM.
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16:53<Wigo0101>ryouma, in the past, i was using ubuntu with ufw...
16:53<david-e>petn-randall: I see!
16:53<david-e>petn-randall: thanx
16:53<petn-randall>david-e: You're welcome. Just ask the channel if you need help setting either up.
16:54<Wigo0101>you say that maintaining the iptables by hand is not the way to go ?
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16:54<david-e>petn-randall: I actually managed to install it on a machine and managed to setup a docker container able to build for etch
16:54<ryouma>Wigo0101: i think many sysadmins will tell you that you should do it yourself. for me, i know that maintaining it by hand is the wrong thing.
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16:54<petn-randall>Wigo0101: You can, but it pays off to use high-level tools as soon as your needs go above the most basic.
16:55<ryouma>Wigo0101: s/many/some/
16:55<david-e>petn-randall: since I have to do tests both on etch-based system and jessie based I thought it would be nice to be able to boot off a USB stick
16:55<Wigo0101>well... I will try to learn Iptables...
16:55<Wigo0101>:-)
16:55<ryouma>Wigo0101: of course, i maintain by hand, but only the stuff i know needs changing. i don't maintain e.g., as the above link explains, " echo ${some_integer} > /proc/sys/net/blah/blah".
16:56<petn-randall>david-e: What kind of tests?
16:56<ryouma>Wigo0101: and only by configuring the wrapper
16:56<ryouma>Wigo0101: i recommend reading the link, becasue it explains why he switched from manually maintaining iptables to using arno
16:57<ryouma>good luck!
16:57<david-e>I need to test a custom board: we have some old drivers and at the end it has to go on an old powerpc-based system
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16:57<david-e>petn-randall: we're talking about linux 2.6.21 and etch is pretty close (2.6.18)
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16:57<petn-randall>david-e: You're developing a kernel driver?
16:58<petn-randall>david-e: Or do you have a vendor driver that only works for that kernel release?
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16:59<david-e>petn-randall: if I'm lucky I'll kust to have to port it to powerpc. Compilation went fine and I want to try it on a i386 machine first
16:59<Wigo0101>ryouma thanks for those info... I think it is woths spending some time on that... because I will have to build a mini firewall PC soon anyway
17:00<david-e>petn-randall: it's a vendor driver (I have the sources) and it was written for an old kernel: almost as old as the one we're using
17:00<petn-randall>david-e: I see, and you're porting it to a current kernel?
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17:02<david-e>petn-randall: no, we won't upgrade the kernel (would be too much effort). We have another vendor who proposed another board for current kernels. so I'm trying to setup different environment to do the comparison
17:02<david-e>petn-randall: but at the end we'll be using linux 2.6.21
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17:04<petn-randall>david-e: I hope it's not an IoT thing, 2.6.21 is ancient.
17:06<david-e>petn-randall: it's not! :)
17:06<petn-randall>david-e: Thank $deity!
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17:11<Wigo0101>One more question which is more related to my curiosity... I installed the ""kicad"" package for electronic schematic and layout... the normal build dates back to 2014... of course there is more recent version in the backport... so I would like to know who is responsible of pushing a package from backport to relase ? debian team ? debian and kicad team ? just kicad ?
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17:14<david-e>petn-randall: need to go. thanx for your help
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17:39<Brigo>v kicad
17:39<Brigo>,v kicad
17:39<judd>Package: kicad on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.20120526+bzr3261-1; wheezy-backports: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3; jessie-backports: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4; sid: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4
17:39<Brigo>Wigo0101, there is a new version in backports
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17:44<Wigo0101>Brigo, thanks :-) but I know that. I just would like to know how the release system works...
17:45<Brigo>Wigo0101, i think you can find that info in the wiki
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17:57<Wigo0101>Brigo, well.. I didnt find so much :-/ everything is written as a general info like this : http://projects.theforeman.org/projects/foreman/wiki/Release_Management There is not so much info about any ping pong between the software writers and the operating system relasers
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17:59<Brigo>Wigo0101, if you are the sowftware writter you can package the software yourself and ask for some debian maintiainer for uploading it. If you are not the software author you can package it anyway in the same way.
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18:03<Wigo0101>Brigo, thank you very much. I have my answer :-)
18:04<Brigo>Wigo0101, there is some burocracy in the middle, but in a nutshell, that's the way.
18:04<Brigo>Wigo0101, you are wellcome :)
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18:07<Wigo0101>;-)
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18:12<aaaa>Hello. How can i delete /tmp dir? I did reboot ->grub -> rescue mode... When i write rm -rf /tmp I got "device or resource busy"
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18:13<blast007>aaaa: why are you wanting to do that?
18:15<aaaa>blast007: Cuz, stupid ext4 directories didnt shrink... I run a soft and it created 50GB of small files in /tmp. Only way to shrink it is recreate directory...
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18:17<ryouma>aaaa: turn off software, delete those files
18:17<retrospectacus>you can't delete /tmp but you can delete things from within it
18:17<retrospectacus>s/from//
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18:18<aaaa>In fact it, I tried create big photo from 61k smaller jpgs... I have used imagemagick... and it didnt went well xD
18:18<petn-randall>aaaa: rm -Rf /tmp/*
18:18<aaaa>ryouma, retrospectacus COntent of tmp is already cleared. But I am talking about size of directory itself..
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18:19<retrospectacus>how do you see its size?
18:19<ryouma>ah, i think in linux directories (the file itself) do not shrink if they are huge but that is probably not the issue here
18:19<aaaa>ls -lh /
18:20<ryouma>aaaa: those are not really sizes
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18:20<aaaa>ryouma: That is exactly an issue here :)
18:20<ryouma>ah, i think it's a bug in linux that it does not deallocate, but i am no expert
18:20<aaaa>ryouma: But it makes me angry to look at X MB directory xD
18:20<ryouma>(and it could be fixed in ext4 for all i know)
18:21<ryouma>use df to check your total disk size
18:22<ryouma>usage
18:23<aaaa>ryouma: Why? 55GB about 8GB used
18:23<ryouma>so you're ok. rebooting might change something too.
18:25<aaaa>I know the content is deleted.. I am talking about shrinking the directory file itself.
18:25<aaaa>I just found https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38639/how-to-compact-a-directory
18:25<aaaa>And it says e2fsck -D on the unmounted filesystem. But how could I do that?
18:26<aaaa>Probably I need to download portable linux distro, boot from USB..
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18:27<Wigo0101>aaaa, try this... it will force a disk check at next boot : https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
18:27<Wigo0101>maybe it solves sour problem
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18:29<aaaa>Wigo0101: Thank you.. btw. Do you know if ext4 is under development ?
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18:31<Wigo0101>you are welcome :-) ext4 is considered as stable... but surprises my happen anywhere
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18:32<Wigo0101>you could also check your disk healt with smartmontools
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18:33<ryouma>Wigo0101: it isn't clear to me which of the 2 solutions there does not apply to systemd based systems, and whether that applies to debian
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18:34<aaaa>Wigo0101: I doubt disk health is linked to my problem
18:35<ryouma>perhaps imagemagick should create a subdir
18:35<aaaa>I just need to rm -r /tmp; mkdir tmp; chmod 1777 /tmp; That is all I need to do. But I can't delete it.
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18:36<aaaa>ryouma: Yeah, that would solve it. But how they could know that developers of ext4 will not implement directory shrinking? :D
18:38<Wigo0101>TMP directory is cleaned at each start up : https://askubuntu.com/questions/20783/how-is-the-tmp-directory-cleaned-up
18:39<aaaa>Wigo0101: My tmp is empty already. I want to delte directory itself
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18:39<Wigo0101>live distro then
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18:40<aaaa>Wigo0101: WHy? It is just ordinary directory as all others.. If installation media can create it.. There must be way to delete it.
18:41<Wigo0101>it is a system dir
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18:41<aaaa>Nevermind.. it is a dir. I am root, I need it to recreate
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18:41<Wigo0101>:-)
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18:42<aaaa>I know it can be done, as I read on google about ppl that accidentaly deleted it. And solution was to mkdir it again.. So it is possible. I just need to figure out how.
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18:43<ryouma>single user mode could be useful
18:44<ryouma>(or does debian have that?)
18:44<Wigo0101>try chmod to remove its atributes... but I never tried
18:44<Wigo0101>good luck
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18:46<aaaa>Wigo0101: Thanks >
18:46<aaaa>:)
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18:46<aaaa>ryouma: That is probably grub -> rescue mode.. But it didnt helped me.. rm -rf says "device or resource busy"
18:47<aaaa>And I am not cd in /tmp.. I am cd in /
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18:51<damian01w__>Hi !! I m a new happy debian user. I have one question..........
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18:52<damian01w__>Why the message numbers in debian bug tracker goes from 5 to 5 ??
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19:00<aaaa>May chroot help?
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19:13<aaaa>Another question.. Can i umount root ? /
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19:27<mnuhmnuh>aaaa: paranoia's good for you. guy's gotta have a hobby. :-)
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19:32<aaaa>mnuhmnuh: Maybe.. I think it is a shame, that at first ext4 dirs wont shrink. Second probably OS is preventing me from deleting tmp even as root.
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19:48<aaaa>I am pissed of.. going to sleep.
19:48<aaaa>Thanks for all your answers.
19:48<aaaa>Good night
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20:26<Ilc>hello everyone
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21:15<mnuhmnuh>Ilc...: <crickets ...> kay byE!!!
21:16<sney>oO
21:19<mnuhmnuh>sney: should've took it to d-ot; meh.
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21:38<Guest220>hello every one how are you
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22:27<alexus>hello
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22:28<alexus>i'm trying to compile and something is missing, can you take a look please?
22:29<alexus>https://pastebin.com/uqARPErU
22:29<alexus>am I missing some package?
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