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00:11<yulax>annadane: they use proxies
00:12<yulax>ip addresses are ten-a-penny
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00:18<user334743>user334743> I read on the debian installation tutorial page that it is good use encryption on the swap and /tmp partitions but whenever I am trying to make a random key partition for /tmp the partition appears as another swap. What could I be doing wrong?
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00:29<user334743>Never mind https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-boot@lists.debian.org/msg107163.html
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01:51<DCap>Hi All, Somebody know how can I search in any section of the man (GNU command) every command exist trough command line ?
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01:57<DCap>I need to get all the commands from section 8 of the man pages, somebody know how to?
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01:58<ach>man man
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01:58<DCap>I already tried, I'm not found what I want.
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03:20<musca>DCap: KDE users just do: konqueror man:
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04:06<deux>hello everybody. i recently bought a new laptop and would like to contribute to "debian on", but when clicking on the "add a new model" it says i don't have permission. what can i do?
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04:14<TheSuperGeek>deux, hello, i can't too. I think it is locked for debian members.
04:15<deux>ok, so the question still stands - how do i contribute?
04:17<TheSuperGeek>I don't know sorry
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04:18<Zomb_>deux: where are you trying?
04:19<deux>on the debian on website. clicking at the end of this page on contibute doesn't work (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/HP)
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04:20<Zomb_>hm, are you logged in? (wiki registration)
04:20<Zomb_>https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/HowToContribute
04:21<Zomb_>Who can contribute under InstallingDebianOn : Anybody, that's the purpose of a wiki !
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04:26<deux>i couldn't find the registration page
04:27<deux>sorry for being a noob
04:27<awal1>https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Discussion?action=newaccount
04:28<awal1>not that one but this https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn?action=newaccount
04:29<deux>thank you so so much!
04:30<awal1>i think you can create a debian wiki account from any wiki related link
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04:31<deux>thanks to everyone who helped me! have a great day
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05:18<DCap>Hey, Do you know how to change the ethernet name? I have a virtual machiene with debian that have eth0 and my local machine also debian also have the eth0 so, I'am getting problems to connect to the web, so how can I change this name?
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05:19<DCap>or in which channel can I ask?
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05:23<towo`>DCap, your question does not make many sense
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05:29<DCap>hi towo`: When I do ifup -a I'm getting this error: RTNETLINK answer: File exist.
05:29<DCap>Searching in the web, I found that this happen because the eth0 is already exist.
05:29<DCap>and is already exist because I'm using "ifup -a" in a virtual machine (that have the same eth name). So I need to change the eth0 to eth1 or other name.
05:29<DCap>I'm very sorry if I'm not clear again.
05:30<towo`>DCap, "a virtual machine" is saying zero
05:30<DCap>Searching I found this solution, editing this file `/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules` but the file doesn't exist.
05:30<DCap>towo`: my local machine is eth0 too.
05:30<towo`>and?
05:30<towo`>again, what vm soulution?
05:31<DCap>no internet in the virtual machine
05:32<DCap>The solution should be change the ethernet name,
05:33<DCap>the question is easy, how Can I change the ethernet name ,from eth0 to eth1?
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05:35<Xylon_>does anyone know how to adjust VGA black level?
05:36<Xylon_>my black shows as dark grey
05:36<Xylon_>Intel integrated graphics 530, ASUS motherboard
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05:38<Xylon_>with a different PC I fixed it with xrandr but it doesn't work on this machine
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05:49<Xylon_>maybe I should try cutting-edge kernel
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08:22<RageRiot_>hello, could somone help regarding permssions? I've mistakenly applyed a recursive permssions command on the root to set folders to 750, Now things have stpped owrking on my server.
08:23<RageRiot_>so folders such as etc usr lib are not at the default system permissions, Is there a default permssisons mask for the debian file system structure ?
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08:25<lindi->RageRiot_: I would recommend just restoring from backup at this point
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08:26<RageRiot_>dont have one :(
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08:27<lindi->RageRiot_: then time to reinstall
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09:13<grummund>Hi, re-using an SD card that contained debian ISO image -
09:13<grummund>having done: wipfs, fdisk & mkfs, it still auto-mounts with the title "Debian 8.7.1 i386 1"
09:14<grummund>the card should be wiped, any ideas how this title is being associated?
09:14<grummund>s/wipfs/wipefs/
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09:37<phillipsjk> what type of filesystem did you make? ISO has larger sector sizes IIRC.
09:37<grummund>sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1
09:38<grummund>primary partition type 'c'
09:39<phillipsjk>maybe try 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/path/tosdcard bs=1M count=1' then redoing the dfisk and mkfs.
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09:40<grummund>hmm, i did do that but only bs=512
09:40<phillipsjk>bs=512 count=2048 should be equivalent.
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09:46<grummund>that seems to have fixed it, thanks.
09:46<grummund>maybe wipefs needed the -a option
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10:16<Unpas>From being Ubuntu lover, then going to Mint, then SolusOS, and Solus, back to Mint, and ever since Ubuntu 7 something having trouble with Samba.........to getting it to work so fine in Debian 8 :) Im so happy today
10:17<Xylon_>:)
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10:51<MarkL1>hi guys I have recovered some media from a SD card, the program have created 2 protected folder, copied all datas on a usb pen drive and deleted the protected folder with a locker symbol on iy with sudo nautilus and then going on them deleting them. On the trash bin there is nothing but the disk space has not been recovered so now my debian is still completely full with just 200 mega left. How should I do yo find them and deleting them completely? thanks
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10:54<lindi->MarkL1: reboot, then run e.g. "Disk Usage Analyzer"
10:55<musca>empty the trash bin
10:55<MarkL1>musca, there is nothing in the trash bin
10:55<MarkL1>it's empty
10:56<musca>yes, it was the superuser who used his trash bin.
10:58<MarkL1>where is this superuser trash bin?
10:59<MarkL1>the trash bin in the superuser clicking on it says: this location could not be displayed
11:00<MarkL1>:operation not supported
11:01<MarkL1>....(nautilus:6645): Gtk-WARNING **:.... Failed to register client: ....GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: ....The name org.gnome.SessionManager ...was not provided by any ....service files
11:04<musca>that is only a Gtk-Warning
11:05<MarkL1>ok but why my computer can't delete those folder? they all were 5 giga more or less
11:05<blast007>MarkL1: see if the files are in /root/.local/share/Trash
11:05<musca>is it in /root/.local/share/Trash/ ?
11:05<musca>good guy, blast007 :)
11:05<blast007>:)
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11:08<MarkL1>in the root folder there just 1 folder: desktop and it is empty
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11:14<musca>ok MarkL1, you still can try lind-'s advice
11:14<MarkL1>how to use this command?
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11:20<MarkL1>no way to find it
11:20<MarkL1>damn
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11:36<mdx0>hello, I tried to get the internal wlan adapter to work. I installed the package: firmware-realtek, reboot the pc and it still don't work. I'm the men with the problem netbook. the package included the firmware for : rtl8723bs.
11:37<mdx0>I found something to this chip :rtl8723bs ...https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs/wiki/RTL8723BS-module-building-instruction-for-Debian-GNU-Linux
11:38<mdx0>Is there a simple solution? maybe that debian way?
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11:50<mdx0>firmware-realtek (0.43) [non-free] contents: * Realtek RTL8723BE firmware (rtlwifi/rtl8723befw.bin) that my pc needs. why it don't works?
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11:53<cruncher>mdx0, maybe you want to add more information about what doesnt work, pci id of the device, outputs, etc
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11:55<MarkL1>ANY ONE?
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11:56<blast007>MarkL1: .local would be hidden, so if you're using nautilus you'll hae to tell it to show hidden files/folders
11:56<blast007>have*
11:56<MarkL1>blast007, where there is this option?
11:57<lindi->MarkL1: did you reboot and run "Disk Usage Analyzer" already?
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12:00<MarkL1>yes I found them they were hidden but they cand get delet with move it to trash
12:00<mdx0>cruncher, I like to use the internal wlan. I don't know enough about this. But what I know is that the firmware package include the firmware from this wlan module .....
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12:00<mdx0>I just installed the package
12:01<MarkL1>they just go in a subfolder calld: files.. and deletinf them return to tash again haha funny
12:02<MarkL1>whats is that command to delete them immeditely? without move them to trash
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12:03<piper>MarkL1: what does rm -Riv ~/.Trash/* as root do for you
12:03<MarkL1>i am not good with terminal
12:03<blast007>MarkL1: shift + delete maybe?
12:03<blast007>I'd think that would be an easy thing to look up online
12:04<MarkL1>i remember there wwere a command like ctrl+... or shift+...
12:04<piper>you can also try apt install trash-cli then do trash-empty
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12:06<piper>MarkL1: sooner or later you should use the terminal
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12:07<MarkL1>yep, I have deleted them with shift+del thanks
12:07<mdx0>I really havn't enough know how but here: http://paste.debian.net/928067
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12:08<cruncher>mdx0, there is no entry for your nic, so i suspect its the wrong driver
12:08<MarkL1>in /root/.local/share/Trash --> info there are lots of logs .trashinfo of the times i have tried to delete this stuff... should i delete them or is better to leave them there?
12:09<MarkL1>25 items of 2.5 kb totally
12:09<cruncher>mdx0, what does lspci -nn say?
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12:11<piper>MarkL1: try rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/* then rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/info/*
12:11<MarkL1>piper, with sudo?
12:12<MarkL1>or just rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
12:12<mdx0>cruncher, http://paste.debian.net/928068
12:12<piper>MarkL1: never in my life have i used sudo, but sure
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12:13<cruncher>mdx0, did you leave some entries out? or was it really this short?
12:13*piper is NOT a fan of sudo
12:13<mdx0>cruncher, that's it
12:13<mdx0>all
12:13<cruncher>mdx0, maybe it is connected as a usb device, try lsusb
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12:14<MarkL1>does not give any result
12:15<mdx0>http://paste.debian.net/928069
12:15<MarkL1>but is just 3 kb no problems
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12:16<cruncher>mdx0, so it is a u.s.robotics device?
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12:17<mdx0>cruncher, no that is the usb-wlan dongle what I use instead
12:17<cruncher>mdx0, why you came to the conclusion it is a rtl8723bs?
12:17<piper>MarkL1: then do rm -Rf /home/username/.local/share/Trash/files/* rm -Rf /home/username/.local/share/Trash/info/*
12:17<cruncher>mdx0, so it seems not to be visible
12:18<cruncher>mdx0, check the full usb output to be sure with lsusb -v
12:18<mdx0>cruncher, I researched in the net and I ever become the answer it should be this chip
12:19<cruncher>mdx0, maybe, but since your system cant see it, it wont help much
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12:19<cruncher>so is it a usb device you plugged in? or a builtin device?
12:19<cruncher>mdx0, maybe if you give the machine and model i can find out something more
12:20<mdx0>wait maybe I made a mistake I forgot sudo, could it ...
12:22<mdx0>no all the same with sudo
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12:22<mdx0>cruncher, I try lsusb -v
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12:23<cruncher>yes, check, in case the naming of the device is not accurate, which i doubt...
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12:24<cruncher>mdx0, and what is the machine/model? did you check if the device is turned off in the bios?
12:25<mdx0>Remote NDIS 802.11 Wireless Adapter
12:25<mdx0>lenovo 100s-11IBY
12:25<MarkL1>piper, i will try soon, thanks
12:26<mdx0>https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Lenovo/100S-11IBY/jessie
12:26<cruncher>mdx0, i dont know that specific model, but thinkpads use to have a physical wireless switch.. did you maybe turn that off?
12:27<piper>MarkL1: your best bet is installing trash-cli and doing it from there, it's easy for beginners
12:27<mdx0>I didn't know about this....but it's ideapad
12:27<mdx0>ideapad 100s
12:27<cruncher>mdx0, true, but check if there is a small switch somewhere
12:28<mdx0>often it's such simple, I will look for it
12:29<mdx0>no I couldn't find something only the button for the uefi bios
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12:30<cruncher>mdx0, just checked, and someone with same model had to "Solved my own problem by going into bios and disabling and enabling wifi, then exiting saving settings."
12:30<cruncher>sounds strange, but who knows
12:31<cruncher>and it wont hurt really to do that
12:31<cruncher>(as long as you dont mess anything else up there ;-))
12:31<mdx0>cruncher, you helped me very much
12:31<mdx0>thanks
12:31<mdx0>I will check that
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12:32<cruncher>was nothing, but you are welcome
12:32<cruncher>it just looks as if the device is not being seen by the system, so i hope that will help
12:32<cruncher>let us know if it worked
12:33<mdx0> I will let you know
12:33<mdx0>soon
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12:38<retr0>yo
12:39<retr0>l337
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12:43<mdx0>cruncher, no at the UEFI is nothing about a WIFI funktion
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12:47<mdx0>oh no, the output from sudo lsusb is ledgendary but here: http://paste.debian.net/928077
12:47<mdx0>lsusb -v
12:47<mdx0>sorry
12:51<cruncher>i guess you folowed the page you mentioned about installing jessie, and did a modprobe r8723bs, and ifconfig/ip link didnt show the device, right?
12:51<cruncher>mdx0,
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12:53<mdx0>no I'm not followed it exactly bcz we made it here together but totally different ......shoud I try modprobe r8723bs
12:54<cruncher>mdx0, try, my guess it wont work as the device isnt visible... but who knows what is wrong there
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12:57<mdx0>mysterious, the package was included the r8723bs
12:58<mdx0>?
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12:58<cruncher>mdx0, i ont understand what you mean, which package had included what?
12:59<mdx0> sudo modprobe r8723bs modprobe: FATAL: Module r8723bs not found.
12:59<cruncher>you didnt download it yet
12:59<casawi>how do I install debian kernel
13:00<casawi>18/5000
13:00<casawi>downloaded zip file
13:00<mdx0>I meant that in the package the firmware........ no I took the rtltek-firmware package from debian non-free section....
13:00<casawi>commands to follow installs
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13:01<cruncher>mdx0, firmware is one thing, the driver module is another, but as is said, it looks like the device isnt visible
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13:03<mdx0>before 2 days someone helped me with advice.....sudo rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
13:03<cruncher>mdx0, you could try to block it, then unblock it
13:04<cruncher>IF you can see it
13:04<cruncher>and to be sure take out that usrobotics dongle you mentioned
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13:05<mdx0>cruncher, if I take out that dongle, I havn't help......but how can we see it?
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13:06<mdx0>I'm haven't enough skills
13:06<cruncher>mdx0, you mean that dongle is your actual internet connection? then leave it inside of course
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13:06<cruncher>mdx0, so what says rfkill list
13:06<mdx0>yes
13:06<mdx0>sudo rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
13:07<cruncher>mdx0, take the dongle out to test, then do rfkill list again
13:07<mdx0>okay
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13:08<mdx0>nothing the command puts nothing out
13:08<cruncher>mdx0, so you see, the rfkill output is for the dongle
13:08<cruncher>your wifi card is not visible. Are you even sure one is inside?
13:09<mdx0>yes I'm
13:09<mdx0>that real strange hardware,
13:09<cruncher>mdx0, yes... are you having maybe dual boot with windows?
13:10<mdx0>no debian the one and only system here
13:10<cruncher>i know of problems like when started windows, linux would see the device until replugged. By any chance you recently had window srunning there?
13:11<cruncher>*wouldnt
13:11<mdx0>no, it was pre-installed but I kicked out
13:12<cruncher>mdx0, i know those newer machines have not much bios settings, but what did you have in yours?
13:12<mdx0>cruncher, sorry for that much work ( to help me)
13:13<cruncher>mdx0, something more you could try, shutdown the machine, unplug the power cable, take out the battery, then restart
13:13<cruncher>mdx0, dont worry
13:13<cruncher>the fact stays, the device isnt visible to the system
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13:13<mdx0>if I remember there was olnly a few
13:14<mdx0>but I can't remeber know....but it all seems uninteressting
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13:15<mdx0>should I go again into uefi and find it out....I can leave out without charges
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13:19<cruncher>mdx0, try the unplug/battery trick, and sure, try to find out anything new
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13:21<mdx0>cruncher, the accumulator is hard build in
13:22<mdx0>not easy to eject it....but I can wait until the accu is empty
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13:22<cruncher>mdx0, ah
13:23<cruncher>no, i think its too much trouble
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13:23<mdx0>cruncher, you are a professional
13:24<mdx0>but it can addicted with it?
13:25<cruncher>mdx0, i dont know what you mean by addicted.. who can get addicted?
13:25<mdx0>sorry I meant the problem is addicted with
13:26<mdx0>let me search a little in the web
13:26<cruncher>mdx0, did you try to press Fn+F5? (thats usually to turn wifi on/off)
13:26<cruncher>since there is no physical switch it may be worth a try
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13:27<mdx0>not yet
13:27<cruncher>then check with rfkill list if its visible
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13:29<mdx0>no nothing changes
13:30<mdx0>but at the F7 key there is the flight sign
13:30<cruncher>that would be airplane mode... try that, in case its on
13:31<cruncher>because if you cant see/set it in bios, and it doesnt show up as a device, i really dont know what else i could do from here...
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13:31<mdx0>thank you very much for that help
13:32<mdx0>but there was nothing in bios about flight mode
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13:42<phillipsjk>my phone leaves the WiFi on in "airplane" mode
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13:58<mdx0>cruncher, I have write down the menus from the bios there were only: secure boot=off, plattform mode=user mode, secure boot mode standard reset to set up mode, restore factory keys, hotkey mode ? on or off? bios back flash
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13:59<cruncher>mdx0, i was checking some forums, and seems like other people have the same problem, wifi not visible at all
14:01<mdx0>but in platform mode i can't access
14:01<mdx0>okay, good for now,
14:02<mdx0>I only can to thank you
14:02<mdx0>much
14:03<mdx0>not so tragic
14:03<mdx0>the hardware isn't very linux friendly
14:04<mdx0>but at the description from this netbook was written its possible to install linux
14:05<mdx0>I guess the source code for the firmware is closed?
14:06<mdx0>but maybe somehow will code something against this problem? I hope so.
14:07<mdx0>cruncher, thank you very much , door rings
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14:12<mdx0>https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs/wiki/RTL8723BS-module-building-instruction-for-Debian-GNU-Linux
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14:13<mdx0>file:///home/danstr/InstallingDebianOn_Lenovo_100S-11IBY_jessie%20-%20Debian%20Wiki.html
14:14<mdx0>tells that with 3 firmware it should work?hmmm
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14:16<mdx0>cruncher, look I have found this: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Lenovo/100S-11IBY/jessie
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14:17<cruncher>mdx0, i think its the same link as before
14:18<mdx0>I've heard some people starved before there computers
14:18<cruncher>and the problem is not the firmware, nor the module, the problem is the device is not visible, so the module and firmware dont get loaded
14:18<mdx0>yes, that true
14:18<cruncher>but sure, try, download/compile the module, and try to load it
14:19<cruncher>mdx0, but all in all, it might be cheaper to get a usb wifi for 6€ in your case
14:19<mdx0>that's the reason
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14:19<cruncher>or buy a cheap internal wifi in ebay, open the device and exchange it
14:20<blast007>that is not always possible as some laptops have a whitelist of devices they will allow
14:20<blast007>IBM/Lenovo is one that has certainly done that
14:20<mdx0>and more time intensity
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14:21<lindi->mdx0: do you know if wifi works in some other distro? if yes, find out what's different in debian
14:22<lindi->mdx0: you will save a lot of time if you just test a few live CDs. it could even be a hardware problem
14:22<mdx0>Lenovo, wants earn more money
14:23<mdx0>lindi-, or wait until someone has find a solution?
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14:23<lindi->mdx0: you can do that as well
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14:23<mdx0>I don't mean that I don't like work for it
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14:24<lindi->2 GB of RAM sounds quite limited to me though
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14:25<cyld>hello
14:25<blast007>well, it is a low-end system with an Atom CPU
14:25<mdx0>tiny core where interesting
14:25<cyld>how install tor
14:26<mdx0>but I like to stay debian and the debian way
14:26<lindi->blast007: yep definitely not for running virtual machines
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14:26<blast007>lindi-: barely for watching Youtube
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14:27*blast007 has the same specs in a pocket sized PC
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14:27<mdx0>if it would all work I were good enough for me
14:28<mdx0>I'm a secretary 5.0
14:28<mdx0>little joke
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14:35<mdx0>and the display isn't very good
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14:49<cruncher>mdx0, im off for a while, but a last thing you could try: check if you find in the bios something like: South Bridge/ LPSS & SCC CONFIGURATION/ SCC SDIO Support. If you do, change acpi to PCI, then download/compile rtl8723bs and test it
14:49<cruncher>some people said it worked even nothing would show the card
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14:52<mdx0>yeah thanx for supporting...good evening
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15:08<mdx0>what is telling this? sudo acpi -a Adapter 0: off-line
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15:16<nevrou>!offtopic
15:16<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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15:22<BrainError404>Hi, I want to delete all files (including databases) from mysql so I can create a fresh installation, because I modified mysql tables who should not be modified, how can I do this?
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15:46<ap4lmtree>hi
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15:47<ap4lmtree>how do you disable the desktrop environment to just console and then how do you re-enable it?
15:47<ap4lmtree>oh i found it
15:47<somiaj>!nodm
15:47<dpkg>In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/).
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15:50<ap4lmtree>okay cool, how do i renable it again if i want to, i do systemctl set-default kdm ?
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15:53<ap4lmtree>okay, i did the false flag and it worked
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17:10<sney>I found a bug that affects a package in jessie and jessie-backports. it's referenced in an older bug report, which has since been closed, but the behavior I found applies under circumstances not considered in the original report.
17:10<sney>should I reopen the old bug or file a new one?
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18:43<confrey>hi everybody
18:43<sney>hi
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18:45<confrey>just installed testing, from command line, I installed command line first, and xserver-xorg after, I've installed xserver-xorg-input-evdev but the X server don't recognize It keyboard layout, what may i do
18:47<sney>!keymap
18:47<dpkg>Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
18:48<sney>also in the future testing support is in #debian-next
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18:53<confrey>sney, thanks
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19:06<noceur>Having trouble installing packages without having a ethernet card enabled (first time in linux pretty much), I couldn't manage to install the ethernet card during setup so I decided to run without it. Managed to find and install the firmware but the wireless-tools seems to be more difficult, there is a lot of dependencies and I am wondering if there is a better way than getting every package one by one from another computer(?)
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19:11<blast007>noceur: there are CD images that have most of the firmware included
19:11<blast007>!firmware images
19:11<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
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19:12<noceur>blast007, alright will give that a try. Thanks.
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22:55<debrisrat>hi !
22:56-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b40643f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
22:56-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
22:57<gry>Hi debrisrat. :)
22:58<debrisrat>hi ! gry
22:58<debrisrat>:))
22:58<debrisrat>i am look at somethings about debian :)
22:59<gry>Okay. Welcome.
23:00<debrisrat>thanks : )
23:01<debrisrat>my name is murat
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23:01<debrisrat>i am supporter for computer tech at Emergency Call Center .
23:02<annadane>debrisrat, this is the main support channel - if you just want to chat go to #debian-offtopic
23:02<debrisrat>sorry annadane:
23:03<debrisrat>:)
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23:35<annadane>is wayland a thing to consider for stable or is it just not complete enough yet?
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