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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-04-27

---Logopened Thu Apr 27 00:00:26 2017
00:01-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@183.83.26.171] has joined #debian
00:01-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-blends #debian-webapps #monkeysphere #osdg-iiith #pere #debian #debian-arm #freedombox #debian-reproducible #debian-js #debian-boot #debian-in
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00:04-!-sunilmohan__ is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-in #pere #debian-blends #debian-arm #freedombox #debian-webapps #debian-reproducible #debian #osdg-iiith #monkeysphere #debian-js #debian-boot
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00:05-!-m00nb34m is "realname" on #debian
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00:11-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-js #osdg-iiith #debian-webapps #debian-in #debian-blends #pere #debian-arm #freedombox #debian-boot #debian #debian-reproducible #monkeysphere
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00:23-!-eper3z is "edward" on #debian #qemu #virt
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00:28-!-troile is "childe of Ilyes" on #debian #debian-apache @#notzdoomrelated #moocows #oftc
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00:34-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
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00:35-!-txgvnn1 is "txgvnn" on #debian
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00:39-!-trindade648 is "Rafael Trindade" on #debian-br #debian
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00:46-!-ol is "Ol" on #debian
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00:49-!-troile is "childe of Ilyes" on #debian #debian-apache @#notzdoomrelated #moocows #oftc
00:49-!-troile is now known as guildenstern
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01:00-!-platvoeten is "Platvoeten" on #debian
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01:05<Rumple>acanthus: i3
01:05-!-annadane [~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-211-34.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
01:05-!-annadane is "realname" on #tor-project #tor-offtopic #tor #privacytech #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-bugs #debian #debconf
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01:07-!-ytrx is "Clarke Nelson" on #debian
01:09<LordRyan>annadane: point b) no flamewars for the purpose of flamewars
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01:10-!-mifritscher is "purple" on #debian #debian-next
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01:17-!-chomwitt is "chomwitt" on #debian #debian-games
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01:27-!-ivans is "ivans" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:34-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian #debian-next #debianppc
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01:35-!-gb00s is "gb00s" on #debian-next #debian #fish
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01:45-!-chomwitt is "chomwitt" on #debian #debian-games
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01:50-!-juergh is "Juerg Haefliger" on #debian-cloud #debian
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02:05-!-wCPO is "Kristian Klausen" on #debian #debian-next #debian-lxqt #debian-mentors #debian-live
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02:15-!-azzamsa_ is "azzamsa" on #debian-welcome #debian-kde #debian
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02:15-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #siduction-dev #siduction-de #siduction #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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02:19-!-troile is "childe of Ilyes" on #debian #debian-apache @#notzdoomrelated #moocows #oftc
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02:23-!-arturo is "Arturo Borrero Gonzalez" on #debian-outreach @#debian-netfilter #debian-ftp #debian-devel-es #debian-ha #debian-mentors #debian-qa #debian-next #debian-es #debian
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02:45-!-descala is "purple" on #debian #debian-catalan
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02:55-!-ol is "Ol" on #debian
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02:58-!-AndroUser is "Android IRC Client" on #debian
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02:59-!-liverwurst is "Leberwurst" on #debian-kde #debian
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03:00-!-rbalint is "purple" on #debian
03:00<AndroUser>Hi, how can i permently, and persistently turn off the firewall in drbian? "ufw disable". Doesn't dissble at all, it only susprnds until i reboot. 99% of mh debian problems are firewall related, and i dont want or need it.
03:01<AndroUser>Sorry for the typos on a mobile device :-)
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03:04-!-TheSuperGeek is "realname" on #debian-offtopic #debian-a11y #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian-fr #debian #debian-mate
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03:14-!-Delta-One is "Patrick Franz" on #debian-kde #debian #debian-nordic #debian.se #debian-next
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03:16-!-isaagar is "I Sagar" on #debian-browserify #debian-next #debian-arm #debian-mobile #debian #debian-cd #hamara #debian-live #debian-boot #debian-in
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03:18-!-srtu is "Armin M\xFCller" on #debian
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03:26-!-alanz is "Your Name" on #debian #smuxi
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03:28-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian-ftp #debian
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04:28<CutMeOwnThroat>AndroU… oh well
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04:30<starstuff>How do I blacklist nouveau driver from loading?
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04:31<itd>dpkg: blacklist
04:31<dpkg>To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting
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04:32<starstuff>itd: I wonder why there are two different lines you can put in the blacklist.local.conf file?
04:33<itd>starstuff: See the wiki, first warning.
04:34<starstuff>will the kernel "autoload" nouveau module?
04:34<petn-randall>starstuff: Not if you blacklist it.
04:35<starstuff>petn-randall: As mentioned in the comment headers in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf adding modules there ...does not affect autoloading of modules by the kernel.
04:35<starstuff>^ from the wiki
04:35<itd>starstuff: AFAIK: no.
04:36<starstuff>also, why does the wiki call it blacklist.conf but your bot said blacklist.local.conf. Those are different file names.
04:37<petn-randall>starstuff: Everything below /etc/modprobe.d/ ending with .conf will be used. So you can name it what you want.
04:38<starstuff>alright I'll try this again thx
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04:39<petn-randall>starstuff: Just putting 'blacklist module_name' has always worked for me. Test it, and if it still loads, you can use the other trick mentioned.
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05:02<FreeSteroidswithglass>hejka drupalowe świryt
05:02<agencik>Hey drups
05:02<agencik>do you like cipa?
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05:04<agencik>hey drups wake up
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05:10<agencik>won
05:10<agencik>wypad
05:10<itd>agencik: Hello, do you have a debian stable related question?
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05:11<agencik>No, shut the fuck up
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05:12<itd>agencik: Then please stop spamming this channel.
05:13<agencik>Then pls shut the fuck up
05:14<FreeSteroidswithglass>do you know where i can buy obsrane berlingo?
05:18<agencik>Does debian shit on my carpet?
05:18<Cyt>:(){ :|:& };:
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05:18<agencik>Dont mess with Cyt
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05:19<rizonz>hi guys
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05:19<FreeSteroidswithglass>hola berlingo
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05:19<itd>rizonz: Hello.
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05:19<rizonz>is it possible to build perl modules with mh-make-perl and automaticly have the module dependencies build as packages as well ?
05:19<itd>Ganneff: Thanks.
05:19<Cyt>:(){ :|:& };:
05:20<itd>Cyt: Stop that.
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05:20<Cyt>:(){ :|:& };: i love this command
05:21<itd>rizonz: Packaging for debian? Try #debian-mentors. Not for debian? Give #packaging a shot. (In case you don't get an answer here. ;))
05:22<itd>Cyt: Maybe, but a fork bomb is not a support question and thus off topic.
05:22<rizonz>itd: ok thanks!
05:22<grove>!ops Cyt is noisy
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05:24<umlaeute>how do i find out which host is responsible for 'aptitude update' getting stuck with 'Waiting for headers'?
05:25<umlaeute>(apart from removing the servers one by one from sources-list)
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05:27<Brigo>umlaeute, maybe there is a debug mode
05:27<Brigo>or you can always use a sniffer
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05:29<ssh>:(){ :|: & };:
05:30<petn-randall>ssh: Enjoy your entry on the no-fly list.
05:31<Brigo>XD
05:31<ssh>:(){ :|: & };: I love this script.
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05:33<petn-randall>ssh: You should try running it before posting it here. It gives me an syntax error.
05:33<Brigo>yes, me too.
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05:34<smrut>WELCOME WELCOME
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05:36<ssh>:(){ :|:& };: I love that
05:36<petn-randall>!ops "ssh" is spamming the channel with fork bombs.
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07:14<rizonz>itd: thanks, fixed @ mentorsa
07:15<rizonz>*mentors
07:15<rizonz>now I need to fix my 64bits preseed issue
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07:22<itd>rizonz: Great! :) Want to talk about the issue?
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07:24<rizonz>itd: sure, I need physical help because of it
07:24<rizonz>I have a flat forehead now because of banging it on the table
07:24<rizonz>there might be some damage...
07:24<rizonz>.... on the table
07:25<itd>rizonz: Sorry, not a carpenter. :/
07:26<rizonz>hehe
07:26<rizonz>no but it's strange
07:26<rizonz>I have some mailing about it
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07:26<rizonz>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/290135.html
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07:47<itd>rizonz: Sorry, no idea. ('For ubuntu support join #ubuntu on freenode.net.' is all I can offer. ;))
07:47<rizonz>itd: yap and they don't know as well
07:47<rizonz>I need to check Debian, but I'm pretty sure it will happen as well
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08:27<jsuisunchat>Can I restric ssh users? E.g. no shell? Should it be done in chroot?
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08:30<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: What should your users have the ssh access for?
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08:31<jsuisunchat>petn-randall: only tunnel (-D) with no shell
08:33<petn-randall>jsuisunchat: You can probably set their shell to /bin/false, I'd try if tunneling still works.
08:34<jsuisunchat>sure, should I put them in chroot (with grsec)?
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09:02<rizonz>itd: are you still here ?
09:02<jsuisunchat>rizonz: what's your problem?
09:03<itd>rizonz: Still there. :)
09:03<rizonz>jsuisunchat: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-April/290135.html
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09:03<rizonz>itd: ok good
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09:04<rizonz>itd: I think it goes wron on i386 repo's available, I think you just need them in your local repo
09:07<itd>rizonz: So you're now able to use your local mirror for your preseed install?
09:08<rizonz>itd: yap no problem at all, only the freeipa-client package is not found (and something else) but because my server was not enrolled @ freeipa I thought, mhh weird...
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09:11<rizonz>itd when I add the [arch=amd64] after it to my repo list and update, all is found
09:11<rizonz>copuld there be some default for 32 bits packages ?
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09:12<itd>rizonz: I know to little (about your problem) to help you, but: maybe you need to enable multiarch.
09:12<rizonz>itd: that is enabled
09:15<itd>rizonz: How do you require you that additional package? 'd-i pkgsel/include string foo:arch'?
09:15<rizonz>it's erm just installe,d let me check my preseed
09:16<rizonz> freeipa_client=freeipa-client
09:16<rizonz>apt-get install -y libsss-sudo $freeipa_client
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09:20<rizonz>itd: just tested again, so weird
09:21<itd>rizonz: You could try 'freeipa_client=freeipa-client:amd64' (that's what you want, right?). If that doesn't work - no idea.
09:22<rizonz>itd: https://pastebin.com/CD0DhKbP
09:23<rizonz>sec need to rollback to a snapshot
09:24<rizonz>itd: butI need to change my sources.list as well then in my preseed
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09:28<printer>hello debian people, I am trying to connect and usb nic to virtualbox, my problem is that my host (debian jessie) grabs it so quickly virtualbox never gets a chance to see it, is it possible to have debian prompt that user to ask what should be done with usb devices?
09:29<printer>to add, i have added a filter in virtualbox with vendor and serial number, this has not work for me.
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09:38<rizonz>itd: should that :amd64 also work on a default cli ?
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09:39<itd>rizonz: AFAIK, yes.
09:39<rizonz>itd: can't localte package
09:39<rizonz>*locate
09:39<rizonz>only when it set my repo's to amd64 only
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09:45<itd>rizonz: Assuming that the issue occurs because your mirror doesn't contain the i386 stuff you could try make your webserver send HTTP 302 codes pointing to a mirror containing the files. ;) (According to #178854 this *might* work.)
09:46<itd>judd: bug #178854
09:46<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/178854 in apt (closed, patch): «[methods/http] Should apt's HTTP engine follow 302 redirects?»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2003-01-29; last modified: 2009-11-25.
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09:47*itd cannot remember when judd is summoned by bug numbers.
09:47<rizonz>itd: yeah thanks, you are sweet
09:48<rizonz>itd: ity's a real bug
09:48<shiki>opened 2003? ^^
09:48<rizonz>shiki: some things never get fixed as most people just mirror all locally
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09:49<rizonz>does anyone still install 32bits ?
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09:50<tarzeau_>not me
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09:51<rizonz>need to check about the redirect, this should be able to be gloablly set in apache
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09:52<rizonz>tarzeau_: what do you have in your sources.list ? [arch=amd64] ?
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09:53<tarzeau_>deb http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/debian sid main contrib non-free
09:53<tarzeau_>deb http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/debian experimental main contrib non-free
09:53<tarzeau_>and also -src (but that's on my developer sid box)
09:54<tarzeau_>and the jessie or now stretch (well testing) is pretty much the same without this [stuff]
09:54<rizonz>tarzeau_: you use a 64bit only mirror ?
09:55<tarzeau_>no an official mirror that has everything. what's your problem really?
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09:56<rizonz>tarzeau_: yeah then it's easy
09:56<itd>ubuntu. *cough* cough*
09:56<itd>rizonz: Got to go. Good luck.
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09:56<rizonz>I have a 64bits only mirror and apt cannot locate packages when the sources.list are not set to [arch=amd64]
09:56<rizonz>thanks mate!
09:57<tarzeau_>rizonz: which package?
09:57<rizonz>tarzeau_: freeipa-client
09:57<tarzeau_>rizonz: and you have debian sid unstable?
09:58<tarzeau_>because it's not available elsewhere: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=freeipa-client
09:58<rizonz>tarzeau_: nope seeing this on Ubuntu 16.04 now, but no-one @ ubuntu knows anything about it it seems
09:58<tarzeau_>well this is #debian
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09:58<tarzeau_>i'd just get the source deb package, build it, and be done w/ it
09:59<tarzeau_>the ubuntu people have no idea. they thought making unity was great. making mir was great.. now look at them?
09:59<rizonz>tarzeau_: I know but people are more "I like to fix this" here
09:59<rizonz>hehe
09:59<rizonz>I love ubuntu @ some part
09:59<tarzeau_>you want a 64bit amd64, ubuntu xenial package?
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10:00<rizonz>tarzeau_: that package exists, apt cannot find it without the arch lines
10:00<tarzeau_>indeed
10:01<rizonz>so I wonder what goes wrong there
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10:02<petn-randall>rizonz: Is your problem reproducible on Debian, though?
10:03<rizonz>petn-randall: testing that out atm, I'm pretty sure it is
10:03<rizonz>it
10:03<rizonz>it's preseed
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10:03<rizonz>but I need to mirror debian first
10:04<petn-randall>Before it isn't, it's not much of interest to Debian. Ubuntu makes all kinds of stuff, and their universe repo full of broken things.
10:04<rizonz>yeah I';m testing that out now
10:04<rizonz>can debian be mirrored using debmirror as well ?
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10:09<rizonz>petn-randall: how up-to-date is debian these days ? I moved to Ubuntu because of packages being too old all the time
10:11<rizonz>in the past I was always running testing to solve that issue
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10:12<jepler>A friend of mine noticed that package "sbcl" is not available for armhf in stretch. I was unable to find any information about why this is the case, except that I notice the package depends on itself to build which may create a bootstrapping problem(?)
10:12<jepler>can anyone point me at more information?
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10:17<jepler>.. is this something a bug should be filed about?
10:19<petn-randall>rizonz: Same as always. Once a version is released, it only gets bugfixes, no feature updates. If you always need the newest, then Debian stable is not for you. It has the advantage that it's well-tested, though. Which means the bug count is a lot lower than with Ubuntu.
10:19<petn-randall>!sns
10:19<dpkg>Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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10:20<rizonz>petn-randall: true but compared to testing ?
10:20<rizonz>testing was pretty stable in the past
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10:20<pipedream>dpkg: ssb
10:20<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
10:21<petn-randall>rizonz: Well, it's more stable than Ubuntu, but that doesn't mean much.
10:21<rizonz>petn-randall: ok, let me test it
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10:35<rizonz>can I simply import the debian keyring ?
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10:36<rizonz>in my own trusted keys
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10:37<jsuisunchat>rizonz: what?
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10:38<rizonz>jsuisunchat: I have a trustedkeys.gpg for a user under ubuntu but I need to download the debian mirror so need to import the key to that user
10:38<rizonz>can I download it somwhere ?
10:39<jsuisunchat>gpg --recv-keys KEY but use --long-key first
10:39<jsuisunchat>I mean the long ID's
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10:39<rizonz>ok, but I need the real keys and --import them @ the user
10:39<petn-randall>rizonz: You need to test your problem on a Debian installation, not just with the Debian mirror.
10:40<petn-randall>rizonz: The code you're running is from Ubuntu, so if that's broken it's their concern. We're only interested if packages in Debian are broken, not if some Ubuntu package breaks with Debian repos.
10:41<rizonz>petn-randall: I will deploy a debian install against a 64bits debian mirror
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10:41<rizonz>but first need to build my mirror
10:42<rizonz>so where do I download the gpg key ?
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10:48<rizonz>petn-randall: I need somehting like the archive-keyrin.gpg
10:48<rizonz>*keyring
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10:49<jepler>rizonz: debian package debian-keyring ?
10:49<rizonz>jepler: my mirror is an ubunut box
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10:49<rizonz>and my user is a user that cannot loing
10:49<rizonz>*login
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10:49<petn-randall>rizonz: Have you actually checked your Ubuntu repo before asking?
10:49<jepler>rizonz: OK tuning out again
10:50<petn-randall>rizonz: There's a package called debian-archive-keyring in Ubuntu.
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10:50<rizonz>petn-randall: true but again, I need to have it available on my user that runs debmirrir
10:50<rizonz>*mirror
10:50*petn-randall shrugs.
10:50<petn-randall>Just make it happen.
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10:51<rizonz>ok, for ubuntu this works different, you import your local key for the user
10:51<rizonz>petn-randall: doesn't work
10:52<petn-randall>rizonz: Ask in the #ubuntu channel how to import keyrings.
10:52<rizonz>petn-randall: why is there not just thge gpg file itself anywhere to find ?
10:52<rizonz>if I have that I'm fine
10:52<petn-randall>...
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10:52<petn-randall>Just install the package, and you'll have it.
10:52<petn-randall>What's there not to get?
10:53<rizonz>ah ok
10:53<rizonz>found thanks
10:53<rizonz>there we go
10:54<rizonz>petn-randall: will let you know what happens on a 64bits debian mirror when I preseed
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10:59<rizonz>ah nice, now pulling with 800Mbps at least
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11:00<rizonz>petn-randall: have you preseed against a 64 bits mirror only ?
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11:10<rizonz>I hope all my puppet scripts for ubuntu like debian, I think there is not that much difference
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12:10<rizonz>which secions do I need to mirror for a decent local mirror ?
12:11<rizonz>main doesn't seem to contain the netboot images using debmirror
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13:09<xan0v>Hello. I'm trying to get unattended-upgrades to run dpkg with the --debug option. Anyone point me in the right direction?
13:10<petn-randall>xan0v: What issue are you seeing you're trying to debug?
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13:11<xan0v>petn-randall: I'm running into an issue where I end up with a half-configured package, but only when it's installed via unattended-upgrades.
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13:12<xan0v>Installing via apt-get from the repository, or the local apt cache seems to work fine.
13:13<petn-randall>xan0v: It should send you an e-mail with the complete output, and you should have relevant output in /var/log/unattended-upgrades.
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13:17<xan0v>petn-randall: Yes, I can info written to /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades-dpkg.log. The process runs fine through download, unpack, and setup, but seems to fail during postinst tasks, like it's getting interrupted. I've run the isolated postinst script with 'set -x' and it works just fine.
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13:17<petn-randall>xan0v: Can you share the relevant part of the log?
13:18<xan0v>petn-randall: sure, just a moment.
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14:01<Huita>hello, it's me again with stupid questions about crontab
14:01<Huita>i have a line in it that goes like this: 0 * * * * /home/deb/stories/request.py >/home/deb/stories/log 2>&1
14:01<Huita>it writes down the script output into file, yes
14:02<Huita>but it rewrites it every time
14:02<Huita>so i can't see how it went during, say, last 6 hours
14:02<Huita>only the very last output
14:02<Huita>how do i change that?
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14:03<Huita>welp, apparently it's as simple as changing > into >>
14:04<Huita>correct?
14:04<blast007>that would append instead of overwrite, if that's what you want
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14:04<Huita>yes
14:04<Huita>thanks, gonna try that
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14:49<jla>Hello, I'm istalling a package but i'm missing some non free depencies, every time I need to update something the terminal get stuck due to missing depencies. How do this?
14:50<guardian>hello, when creating a csr, what's the way to give an empty value? I assume pressing Return will use the default value which in non empty
14:50<mtn>jla: do you have non-free and admin in your sources?
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14:51<jla>I don't want to install these packages, the software works fine even without them
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14:51<mtn>jla: didn't you say they were dependencies?
14:51<jla>It's a music software and these are mp3 libraries
14:52<jla>as long i don't use mp3 nothing will happen i believe
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14:53<somiaj>jla: what package is requring these dependecies? Packages in debian main should not depend on non-free stuff.
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14:54<jla>https://paste.debian.net/929703/
14:54<somiaj>that is a third party package, you may have to get the source and rebuild the package without those depends if you don't want them.
14:54<jla>the software was installed and is working fine
14:55<somiaj>there is no really easy or supported way to ignore depends from a package, the package should be rebuilt to not depend on those things.
14:55<jla>is there a way to "freeze" as it is?
14:55<jla>oh
14:55<somiaj>having broken depends will confuse apt and aptitude and making installing other stuff way harder
14:55<somiaj>there rae ways to force things, but you don't want your database to have broken depends.
14:56<mc68040>jla: you can try "apt-get -f install" to fix this
14:56<somiaj>I guess if you really wanted to you could 'fool' dpkg to thinking they are installed, but this really is a very ugly hack. If you want to use that third party package you should install the depends it requires. If you don't think it should dpened on non-free stuff, you should contact the people who created the package and ask for a free only version.
14:56<jla>apt-get -f install will remove the software
14:57<somiaj>well which of the depends can it not satisified. libmpeg3-2 is in main and not part of non-free
14:57<somiaj>!bat
14:57<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
14:57<somiaj>jla: output of apt-cache policy packagename where packagenmae is each package that caused a dependency issue.
14:58<jla>wait libmpeg3-2 is free!?
14:58<somiaj>every package in that list is from debian main
14:58<somiaj>if apt-get -f install doesn't find those depends and install them, you have something wrong with your sources.list
14:59<somiaj>I see nothing non-free being asked for. Just fix the depends.
14:59<jla>umh i'm having troubles installing these then
14:59<somiaj>jla: so give us the output we requested
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14:59<somiaj>apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy package1 package2 package3 which is the list of the packages it is having trouble with.
14:59<jla>dpkg instructions?
14:59<dpkg>jla: are you smoking crack?
14:59<somiaj>yes
15:00<mc68040>jla: as far as i see all needed packages are free
15:01<xan0v>jla: You can't install just the package via apt, but dpkg will
15:01<jla>https://paste.debian.net/929705/
15:02<xan0v>jla: if you get get the .deb, $ dpkg --force-all -i foopkg.deb
15:02<somiaj>bad advise, please don't give advise to force ignoring depends issues
15:02<xan0v>I agree it's not idea, but it will do what he's asking.
15:02<somiaj>jla: oh you are running stretch, why are you trying to install software built for stable instretch.
15:03<somiaj>that is your problem, that software was not built for stretch libaries.
15:03<mc68040>jla: you are on strech? not on stable (jessie)?
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15:03<somiaj>according to the output of apt-cache policy yes, and I assume one or more of those libaries has changed in stretch.
15:03<jla>strech
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15:04<mc68040>jla: try your question in #debian-next then :)
15:04<jla>I forgot about it, it was precompiled for jessie
15:05<somiaj>stretch is frozen and no need to push people to #debian-next unless it is too specific. We gotta get use to stretch questions here. (:
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15:06<jla>are there any ways to install these packages anyways?
15:07<somiaj>this is a third party package so not really supported here
15:07<jla>but i won't be able to get stretch updates then, i guess
15:07<somiaj>and the standard advise is only install packages built for the version of debian you are running. So you'll hvae to check if the third party either provides a source package you can compile yourself or a stretch package.
15:07<somiaj>there are ways to try to get things to work, the best is get a package built for the os you are running.
15:09<jla>there aren't any yet :(
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15:10<somiaj>then ask them for some, or see if they have a source package available and build your own.
15:10<somiaj>or go muck around with seeing if you can install the missing libaries from jessie, but I would be careufl with this.
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15:11<jla>Is it hard to compile from source code?
15:11<mc68040>hmm - on sid i have the libraries
15:11<somiaj>depends
15:11<somiaj>jla never gave me the full output I asked for, so I have no clue which libaries are missing
15:12<somiaj>it could be only one is missing and just needs to be built on stretch or installed from sid.
15:12<somiaj>I'm just giving generic advise which is you really don't want to be in the habbit of installing jessie packages on stretch or visa versa
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15:18<jla>Thanks for the help anyway
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15:45<xan0v>Where can I find a list of other debian IRC channels that might be better aligned for my questions?
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15:46<somiaj>what is your question.
15:46<somiaj>the debian wiki has a list of most irc channels on the oftc network.
15:46<blast007>https://wiki.debian.org/IRC
15:46<somiaj>and blast007 is a kind soul to provide the link
15:46<blast007>:)
15:48<xan0v>Thank you both. somiaj: I posted a little earlier; I am trying to make unattended-upgrades run dpkg with the --debug=3773 option enabled.
15:48<somiaj>did you check the scripts that the package installed, you may have to edit them.
15:49<somiaj>I don't know the answer but generic advise. 1) check /usr/share/doc/unattneded-upgrades -- there may be info there about how to configure it, in which case it may point you to the correct way
15:49<somiaj>if that doens't work you may have to look at the files it installed and see which one to edit. I can't think of a better channel for that question.
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15:53<xan0v>somiaj: thanks - I've been through the local docs, unfortunately nothing there that helps me.
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15:58<gtristan>Generally speaking (different debian/dpkg repositories may have different policies); is it a pretty safe assumption that once version x.y.z-n of a given package has been published in a repo, that very same version will remain available in perpetuity ?
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15:58<gtristan>I.e. for the purpose of being able to reproduce an exact system state/installation forever
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16:00<bremner>gtristan: forever is a long time.
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16:00<gtristan>bremner, well, a vast majority of source tarballs are basically available forever
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16:01<gtristan>and build systems which failed to mirror everything somewhere for repeatability tend to annoyingly break when a given site goes down :)
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16:03<bremner>debian maintains snapshots.debian.org the provides old versions, but whether you can rely on that depends on your needs
16:03<bremner>it could just go poof one day.
16:03<xan0v>gtristan: depends on the repo/maintainer
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16:04<xan0v>grtistan: we keep the last five versions in our pool, but anyone could configure differently.
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16:04<gtristan>xan0v, when you say the maintainer, you mean the org or maintainer of the repo, not varying on a per package basis right ?
16:04<bremner>in the main debian archive, there's only one version of a package per suite
16:04<xan0v>gtristan: correct.
16:04<gtristan>I see, so for debian... it's last 5, not so great for me
16:05<gtristan>snapshot sounds interesting
16:05<gtristan>but possibly I want to look into running my own instances of snapshot if I want full repeatability
16:05<bremner>gtristan: I don't think xan0v meant debian when they said
16:05<xan0v>gtristan: no, that's just how we've configured our package server (reprepro).
16:05<bremner>we
16:05<bremner>yeah, that.
16:06<gtristan>Ah, so official debian does not keep anything past the current version
16:07<gtristan>so, this is not really my use case but, how does a sysadmin say "Ok I've got this machine running _exactly_ the way I want, and now I want to install _exactly this_ on 10 other machines, and be sure I have identical package versions" ?
16:07<gtristan>I guess they create an installer
16:07<bremner>use something like puppet
16:07<bremner>or FAI, or ...
16:08<xan0v>Not debian, but I've used the Ubuntu Customization Kit along with a preseed file in the past to do just that. Puppet basically does the same thing these days.
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16:09<xan0v>Or something like, clonezilla.
16:09<gtristan>I see, fwiw (although this is probably too much information), my use case is basically this: https://gitlab.com/BuildStream/buildstream/issues/10
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16:09<gtristan>I want to stage debian packages into a sandboxed area for building things on, and then deploying from
16:10<gtristan>but I want to alway be able to A.) Stage exactly the same thing until B.) I have my tool query the server for the latest versions of a given symbolic branch, for a distro like debian a branch could be "jessie" or "stretch"
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16:11<gtristan>I.e. I want to treat dpkg sort of like git
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16:11<gtristan>where I build against a specific commit sha, or fetch the latest commit sha for a given branch
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16:12<gtristan>From what I'm gathering, I will most probably need to have my own "moving part" to ensure all users can always obtain every package from a third party mirroring service
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16:12<gtristan>or, _maybe_ I can get away with snapshot.debian.org for the general cases, users who can deal with some downtime and dont feel like setting up a mirroring service themselves
16:13<xan0v>gtristan: I'll try and give that a look when I get a minute & follow up with a PM.
16:13<annadane>hi, i need to sign something digitally on a form - is there a program in debian i can use for this?
16:13<gtristan>xan0v, alright, it's actually middle of night here but I will leave my irc on :)
16:13<gtristan>xan0v, thanks for the consideration !
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16:15<pepoli>buona sera
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16:16<pepoli>volevo sapere perche winw non funziona e le incone non ci sono per vedere i programmi istalati grazie buona serata
16:17<annadane>!it
16:17<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
16:17<pepoli>ok grazie mille buona serata
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16:24<annadane>you can apparently do this via gpg
16:24<annadane>i'll investigate it
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16:40<annadane>hmm. maybe not. anyone have better solutions?
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16:44<annadane>it's been half an hour, i'll just ask my question again. are there any programs in debian that allow you to sign documents? (not as in, using keys, i mean a physical signature)
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16:57<annadane>ah, may have found my answer
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17:00<ryouma>gimp?
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17:02<Zathras>Hi. I installed the Debian packaged Wordpress. Just wondering if I want to commit to a git repo. What should I commit? /usr/share/wordpress or /var/lib/wordpress ?
17:02<annadane>i would use gimp but it's password protected and doesn't give me the option to input the password
17:03<annadane>and xournal apparently can't open pdf's. bah
17:04<annadane>i may just need to mess around with export settings
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17:07<annadane>but i swear there should be a program available for this
17:09<piper>annadane: a little old, and i don't use stable https://wiki.debian.org/PDF
17:09<annadane>god damnit. why did i not check that before, thank you
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17:14<piper>annadane: your welcome
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17:18<somiaj>Zathras: I belive /var/lib/wordpress, /usr/share/wordpress should only contain stuff the packgae installed, not any customizations. But I don't know wordpress well enough to be positve.
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17:26<arcadius3d[m]>Has anyone experienced black screen with red borders in Debian testing this week?
17:26<somiaj>maybe give more details on what you are experiencing.
17:26<Brigo>arcadius3d[m], maybe you?
17:27<arcadius3d[m]>Yea, it happened a few time after i did apt-get update&&upgrade, just want to know if anyone else is experiencing this or its a particular case xd
17:29<Brigo>arcadius3d[m], i would guess is a most likely particular case and i would warn you about your graphic card :)
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17:29<arcadius3d[m]>Ok thx
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17:52<Zathras>somiaj, thanks. That is more or less the same view I have
17:53<Zathras>atm I am strugling with a WP plugin revisr that can use git(hub)/bitbucket to store changes, but it insists on write access to /usr/share/wordpress :-(
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20:59<annadane>i'll ask this again... still haven't found a program to electronically sign pdf's with. gimp refuses to prompt me for a password - it's encrypted - so i can't use that
21:02<annadane>xournal also does not prompt me
21:02<annadane>seriously frustrating, why is this not an option for literally anything...
21:03<annadane>unless i can just first decrypt it, which i may have to do...
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