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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-05-02

---Logopened Tue May 02 00:00:16 2017
---Daychanged Tue May 02 2017
00:00-!-rican-linux is "Herminio Hernandez Jr" on #debian
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00:00-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
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00:03-!-tatalazo_ is "AndChat414225" on #debian-offtopic #debian-mobile #debian
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00:10-!-trindade648 is "Rafael Trindade" on #debian-br #debian
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00:11-!-trindade648 is "Rafael Trindade" on #debian-br #debian
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00:14-!-Auschwitz is "Auschwitz" on #debian #help #oftc
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00:14-Auschwitz:#debian-The Holohoax is nonsense
00:14<Auschwitz>lol holocaust
00:15<Auschwitz>if we killed that many jews why are we infested with jew farts?
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00:15<Auschwitz>it was only 5.9 Million jews
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00:15-!-inne is "purple" on #debian
00:15<Auschwitz>the other hundred thousand then killed hitler
00:15<Auschwitz>and conquered the world
00:15<Auschwitz>with fart gas
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00:25-!-trindade648 is "Rafael Trindade" on #debian-br #debian
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00:32-!-hackunoichi is "S.C.M. C." on #debian-multimedia #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-france #debian-gnome #debian-fr
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00:50-!-IRLC_ind is "Ralph Rajko-Nenow" on #python #debian
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01:29<linux_>l
01:29<linux_>hello
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01:30<nero>3
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01:34<levlaz>hello
01:35<Dr_Z>hi
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01:45-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-webapps #osdg-iiith #debian-js #debian-blends #debian-in #debian #monkeysphere #debian-arm #freedombox #debian-reproducible #debian-boot #pere
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04:30<kloam>Hi, I need help about parted_server in d-i, I am able to create only one gpt partition with NEW_LABEL gpt but I don't know how to force gpt partition with multiple partitions ?
04:30<madduck>/var/mail on this machine here is root:mail:2711 (drwx--s--x) and if I use
04:30<madduck> mutt -f /var/mail/madduck, it forces the mailbox to be readonly. But if I
04:31<madduck> g+w the directory, then mutt can write the mailbox. However, mutt is not
04:31<madduck> setgid mail. What might be going on?
04:31<madduck>stupid paste sorry
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04:34<Komputerfreak>hello
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04:35<Komputerfreak>hi plop
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04:38<itd>kloam: Can you share your current configuration?
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04:43<kloam>itd: here is what I did : https://pastebin.com/qTT5Ai7E If I comment out the gpt partition part it overwrite all the other partitions and did only one gpt partition :/
04:44<kloam>itd: I don't know how to mark one partition as a gpt partition
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04:49<itd>kloam: You cannot mark one partition as gpt. The gpt describes the layout of partitions on a disk.
04:50<kloam>itd: Yes, but how do you make 2 or more partitions on a gpt disk with parted_server so ?
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04:59<kloam>itd: I would like the equivalent of 'mklabel gpt' for parted_server if you know what I mean
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05:20<Komputerfreak>hello again
05:20<itd>kloam: I think I do, but I have no idea, sorry. (Examples for you to look at that might help you: https://sources.debian.net/src/partman-partitioning/115/lib/disk-label.sh/#L137 https://sources.debian.net/src/partman-base/191/test/partman-simulate/#L200 )
05:20<itd>Komputerfreak: Hello. Do you have a debian question?
05:22<kloam>itd: No problems, thank you I will look that !
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05:27<Komputerfreak>well, maybe: does iptables filter all packets on my network interfaces, or can something still get through?
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05:28<Walex>Komputerfreak: Freenode #Netfilter is a better place to ask that question
05:29<Komputerfreak>thanks i will visit them
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05:40<Guest1632>Hello, I have a problem with debian stable,..I installed a Debian Stable on a Virtualbox VM, all work perfect, also the audio,..but after some updates, I restart the VM, and all work perfect except the audio,...in particular if I start a video, mpv opens the video, but the video doesn't start reproducing,..and if I disable the audio track from mpv, the video starts to reproduce,...same thing for you tube video, i can
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05:47<Brigo>Guest1632, try http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/09/25/cli-quickies-ii-fiddling-with-sound/
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05:53<CQ>hello, I'm running jessie with xfce in a vbox VM, and I can't get it to shut down from the GUI When I go into rescue mode and shutdown -h now, it does shut down. I'm not seeing where it hangs in messates or syslog... any ideas?
05:53<CQ>basically I need to wait 10-15 seconds, and then kill the VM
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05:55<Guest1632>Thanks, Brigo, I try with the link, but the audio doesn't work, in lspci -v I have the sound card recognised and also the correct module of the kernel loaded, and also with "cat /proc/asound/cards" I have only one sound card and it is the default...
05:57<Brigo>CQ, try this http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/
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05:59<CQ>brigo, thanks. I wish there was a log where I could just SEE where it's stuck...
05:59<Brigo>CQ, the link talks about that :)
05:59<CQ>Brigo: reading it now...
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06:15<Guest1632>Can someone give me some help, with the audio...
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06:17<Komputerfreak>just to be sure, did you check your volume setting?
06:18<Komputerfreak>what does 'aplay -l' say?
06:19<Guest1632>yes, all the channel from "Audio Mixer" , (I have a minimal "Xfce" ) are set to the max...
06:19<Komputerfreak>does aplay -l list your device?
06:21<Guest1632>I haven't "aplay" installed ...
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06:24<Komputerfreak>can you install alsa-utils?
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06:31<Komputerfreak>if you can, please also check the audiolevels again with amixer
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06:32<Komputerfreak>sorry, 'alsamixer' or 'alsamixergui' - you might want to install that too
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06:41<Guest1632>Ok, I installed alsa-utils and run as root the following command " aplay -l " , the output is this: " **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: I82801AAICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH], device 0: INTEL ICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 "
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06:42<z00>hi all :). Do you know the email address of the security team in order to have information about fixes regarding the last BIND advisory. Is there information about a released date of a DSA/DLA for CVE-2017-3136>CVE-2017-3138 ?
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06:43<Brigo>z00, https://www.debian.org/security/
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06:45<z00>ok thx Brigo
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06:47<Brigo>z00, np
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06:57<Guest1632>some help for the audio?,...please
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06:58<Komputerfreak>looks like it is installed then
06:59<Komputerfreak>how did you play the sound?
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07:00<Guest1632>I have no sound on firefox, i test it opening random video from youtube, and also no sound on mpv, if i start a video from mpv the video start only if i disable the audio tracks, if i renable the audio tracks the video stop...
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07:04<Komputerfreak>are there programs where the sound works?
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07:04<Guest1632>no, i also run the command " speaker-test " as root, but no sounds...
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07:06<Komputerfreak>are you firefox also running as root?
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07:07<Komputerfreak>normally it should not be necessary
07:08<blast007>!alsa checklist
07:08<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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07:09<Komputerfreak>very good, was just going to type the audio group thing
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07:12<blast007>Guest1632: also, which version of Debian is this and which version of Firefox?
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07:15<Guest1632>Start firefox as root, same problems,..I already am in the audio group, in alsamixer I have all the channel to the max and also I have the only sound card I have selected as default , I havent' pulseaudio installed and I have Debian Stable (Jessy) installed with all the updates installed...
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07:16<blast007>so... Firefox 45?
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07:16<Guest1632>Firefox ESR 45.9.0
07:17<Guest1632>and also "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" doesn't work for root..
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07:20<CQ>Guest1632: try aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
07:20<CQ>er, nvm, what you tried is just as good
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07:20<CQ>try in #alsa or äpulseaudio
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07:22<Guest1632>all the sounds in this folder: /usr/share/sounds/alsa , doesn't start...
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07:23<Komputerfreak>is there an error?
07:24<Guest1632>how, can i see the latest updates of my system?,..some kind like a log of the lastest update installed..
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07:28<Komputerfreak>apt logs are in /var/log/apt
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07:57<Walex>Komputerfreak: you could also have suggested 'dpkg.log' which is more comprehensive
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07:57<Komputerfreak>yes you are right
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08:16<leni536>Hi, can I somehow use claws-mail with reportbug?
08:16<leni536>I don't feel like setting up an MTA
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08:18<arturo>it seems running scp doesn't trigger .bash_logout on the server. Is there a way to run a command in a sshd server after scp?
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08:23<petn-randall>arturo: You don't have a login shell on the remote machine when copying files, so none of your shell script will run.
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08:23<petn-randall>arturo: If you need that, you can simply add a fake login to your script.
08:23<blast007>!reportbug MTA
08:23<dpkg>The <reportbug> utility does NOT require you to run a local mail server (mail transport agent). When reportbug asks "Do you have a 'mail transport agent'?" say N (which is the default) and then, just as it says hit ENTER to use a Debian SMTP host.
08:23<blast007>leni536: ^
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08:24<leni536>blast007: Ah, OK then.
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08:25<arturo>petn-randall: a fake login to the user which is receiving the scp?
08:25<petn-randall>arturo: yes
08:25<arturo>mmm interesting
08:25<diefi>is there a command to clear up cached packages that are not the newest version?
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08:26<petn-randall>diefi: apt-get autoclean
08:26<arturo>petn-randall: and I guess that this approach doesn't harm the scp functionality itself, right?
08:26<arturo>thanks!
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08:26<petn-randall>arturo: I don't think so. But I also don't know your use case.
08:27<arturo>ok thanks I will investigate
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08:28<diefi>thx petn-randall
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08:33<fred>how to install chrome browser
08:33<fred>or opera browser
08:33<fred>anyone?
08:33<petn-randall>fred: Have you checked their websites for instructions?
08:34<petn-randall>fred: Which OS are you running?
08:34<fred>debian 8.7 cinnamon
08:35<fred>can i install in the terminal
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08:36<narcan>fred: chrome and opera are not provided by debian. you can install chromium instead
08:36<fred>ok how?
08:37<narcan>in a terminal, with the root user: apt-get install chromium
08:37<fred>coz when im using firefox some websites says server not found
08:37<petn-randall>fred: How is that a problem of Firefox?
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08:40<leni536>blast007: reportbug never asked if I have an MTA
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08:40<blast007>did it ask for an SMTP host?
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08:41<petn-randall>leni536: Maybe your debconf level is to high, in which case it picks the default (don't use a MTA). If it's wrongly configured, you can change it with 'dpkg-reconfigure reportbug'.
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08:44<leni536>Ah, looks like reportbug --configure does the trick
08:44<leni536>That's when it asks the smtp and mta questions
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08:46<leni536>blast007: What's "a Debian SMTP host"?
08:46<petn-randall>leni536: What's the full sentence and context?
08:47<leni536>Do you have a "mail transport agent" (MTA) like Exim, Postfix or SSMTP configured on this computer to send mail to the Internet? [y|N|q|?]? n
08:47<leni536>Please enter the name of your SMTP host. Usually it's called something like "mail.example.org" or "smtp.example.org".
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08:48<leni536>oh sorry, I'm an idiot
08:48<leni536>Just press ENTER if you don't have one or don't know, and so a Debian SMTP host will be used.
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08:57<Komputerfreak>hey jessie, good to see you
08:57<Komputerfreak>how does it feel to be a current release?
08:58<jessie>hi
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08:58<petn-randall>I think calling someone the current release is a bit of a stretch.
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08:58<petn-randall>;)
08:59<jessie>kann man hier deutsch schreiben?
08:59<jessie>bin leider sehr unbeleckt ;)
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09:00<petn-randall>!de
09:00<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
09:00<petn-randall>jessie: You should talk english in here, but if you want German support, see above. ^^^
09:00<jessie>thanks
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11:11<Komputerfreak>is there a practicable way to encrypt dns requests?
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11:12<jack>Komputerfreak: theres a few idk how good they are
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11:15<Komputerfreak>one good way would probably be to just add an ssl layer - seems simple enough at first sight
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11:17<blast007>Komputerfreak: looked at DNSCrypt?
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11:18<petn-randall>Komputerfreak: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7858
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11:19<Komputerfreak>not yet, will take a look now
11:19<petn-randall>There's already a RFC, but I don't know if there are any widespread implementations yet.
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11:20<Komputerfreak>good to know there are plans of implementing it
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13:01<carlos_>hola
13:01<carlos_>tengo problemas
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13:03<zerick>carlos_: como que
13:03<zerick>creo que mejor consultas en #debian-es, este canal es en ingles
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13:30<ronicus>Does anyone know how to get ircii to join chat.freenode.net
13:30-!-user__ [~user@cgn-pool-83-219-136-104.tis-dialog.ru] has joined #debian
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13:30<ronicus>Ive tried irc chat.freenode.net and it doesnt work
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13:31<ronicus>and how do I switch chats when im in more than one room on ircii
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13:35<sney>in irssi it's /win number
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13:43<scooter>hello
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14:03-!-keithp` is now known as keithp
14:04<Komputerfreak>what would happen if the logdaemons would log their activity in their own logfiles?
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14:11<Komputerfreak>hi scooter
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15:22<holoirc>I just got a segfault on two different programs simultaneously in my Sid machine, which prompted it to reboot my tty. What could have caused it?
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15:31<elbraian13>hello
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15:32<elbraian13>the bunsenlabs project is Linux or Debian?
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15:33<mtn>!bunsenlabs
15:33<dpkg>BunsenLabs Linux is a community continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.bunsenlabs.org/ #bunsenlabs on chat.freenode.net. See <based on debian>
15:34<elbraian13>ok
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15:41<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>Hello
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15:46-TheHolocaustWasHilarious:#debian-I will now tell a holocaust joke in #debian
15:46<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>What happened to the black Jew during the holocaust?
15:46<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>They made him sit in the back of the oven!
15:50<jepler>can someone ban the fuck out of that please ^^^
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15:52<mtn>!ops TheHolocaustWasHilarious
15:52<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mtn complains about: TheHolocaustWasHilarious
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15:53<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>mtn, why would I get banned?
15:53<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>jepler: why?
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15:53<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>would someone cracking jokes about the Salem witch trials, the Trojan war, the revolutionary war, even the War in Iraq (more recent than the holocaust) get this treatment?
15:53<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>It has been over 60 years, get the fuck over it, it happened.
15:53<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>Stop acting like it's some sort of tabboo
15:53<piper>TheHolocaustWasHilarious: this is a support channel, not your teenage bullshit
15:53<jepler>don't engage with it. ignore it and wait for it to be banned
15:54<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>jepler: I am banned
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15:54<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>I am evading a few dozen network bans
15:54<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>I have a practically infinite supply of VPN gateways
15:54<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>Bans don't solve all the world's problems you know
15:54<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>neither does censorship
15:55<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>no matter how much you try to censor people, it won't undo the holocaust
15:55<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>and you will never cover it up successfully
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15:55<mtn>and there is /ignore, too
15:55<TheHolocaustWasHilarious>would someone cracking jokes about the Salem witch trials, the Trojan war, the revolutionary war, even the War in Iraq (more recent than the holocaust) get this treatment?
15:55<jepler>done that
15:56<piper>yep
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15:57<pron>did you just assume my gender?
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15:58<Komputerfreak>wrong channel
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16:24<dpkg>BunsenLabs Linux is a community continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.bunsenlabs.org/ #bunsenlabs on chat.freenode.net. See <based on debian>
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19:27<ronicus>Is any one familiar with the procedures of switching root to the memory and shredding the main drive ?
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19:33<ronicus>Is there a tutorial out there
19:33<Prova>Hi, is there any Italian that can help me? i'm new of Debian world
19:34<sney>!it
19:34<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
19:34<Prova>thanks
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19:38<blast007>ronicus: can you boot to another media? like a live DVD?
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19:39<ronicus>No I need it to shred while im logged in
19:39<delx>ronicus: I wrote up a really hacky blog post on this. It's partially out of date, but may be helpful: https://delx.net.au/blog/2012/04/remote-wipe-of-debian-linux-server/
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19:43<ronicus>Thanks Delx :)
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19:46<ronicus>Delx when you say move all tools needed then pivot root What core tools are neccesary ?
19:47<delx>Looking at that now, busybox --install would probably be better.
19:48<delx>Once you pivot_root you'll want to unmount your root filesystem. So anything you need should be copied into the tmpfs
19:49<delx>You'll want a shell, rm, umount, ps at least
19:49<delx>Oh, and kill to finish off any other processes that may stop you from unmounting your disk
19:49<delx>Note that if this is a server and you have access to some LOM type thing that would be a much easier way to do this :)
19:51<ronicus>yeah I have access whats LOM?
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19:52<delx>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-band_management
19:53<delx>If you have a fancy server then it may have something like that :)
19:55<koollman>ronicus: what are you trying to do ?
19:55<koollman>or more importantly maybe, do you still need a usable system after that ? :)
19:56<ronicus>building some hardware which ive got done but i need it to invoke a script or something to shred the whole main drive a 4gb sd card once this hardware is tripped
19:57<cheapie>Something of note: you *could* just stop as many services as possible and dd something over the drive without bothering to pivot_root or anything.
19:57<ronicus>no I want it to be f'ed forensically
19:57<cheapie>It'll break stuff horribly, but that might not matter...
19:57<koollman>so you don't care about pivot root
19:57<koollman>just shred the disk, mostly
19:58<cheapie>"dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/whatever bs=4M" and be done with it :P
19:58<delx>koollman: There's a decent chance the kernel will panic before it finishes the dd
19:58<ronicus>yeah basically but you have to pivot root to acomplish that right ?
19:58<delx>If some process tries to read the file system
19:58<koollman>delx: nope. been there, done that :)
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19:58<delx>It's down to chance though
19:58<cheapie>I'm kinda tempted to try that in a VM now.
19:58<delx>It'll probably work.
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19:59<delx>But if some process tries to read the FS and the kernel sees zeroes instead of the data structures it expects, PANIC!
19:59<delx>Then you have to way to finish the wipe
19:59<koollman>that's if you keep other process alive
19:59<delx>You also have no way to know whether the wipe finished or not without inspecting the disk.
19:59<cheapie>delx: I was under the impression that doing that usually doesn't result in a panic.
19:59<delx>koollman: There are a bunch of kernel processes that you can never kill
19:59*cheapie is installing Debian in a VM now to try it
19:59<delx>Who knows if/when they may read the fs
20:00<delx>cheapie: Good idea to test any of this in a VM first :)
20:00<cheapie>Preseeded network boot installers are great :)
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20:01<ronicus>DD only over writes once though right ?
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20:01<cheapie>ronicus: That's all you need anyway.
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20:02<ronicus>Twice I thought?
20:03<cheapie>About the only time you need to overwrite more than once is if you're dealing with something *really* ancient.
20:03<cheapie>(like an ST-225 or something)
20:03<ronicus>so theoretically pivot root stop kernal panic ?
20:04<cheapie>I still don't think it'll panic, but I'm still setting up the VM to test it.
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20:04<koollman>(also, if trim is supported, blkdiscard is really quick)
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20:06<cheapie>OK, wiping now.
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20:07<cheapie>Well, it *did* panic, but only because systemd crashed.
20:08*cheapie restores it from the snapshot he took and tries booting it with init=/bin/bash to try again
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20:10<cheapie>OK, doing it with init=/bin/bash was successful.
20:12<ronicus>ok so whats init=/bin/bash telling it im not familiar with this i just opened the man
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20:12<cheapie>It's a boot parameter (so likely not something you'll be able to use, unless you can change the bootloader config and reboot).
20:13<koollman>ronicus: only one init process running, which happens to be bash
20:13<cheapie>Basically, it tells it to just launch a shell directly instead of trying to bring the whole system up.
20:13<koollman>ronicus: which means yeah in some cases you will need to kill any other processes
20:14<ronicus>and this will affect the normal boot of debian straight into x
20:14<cheapie>Anyway, the command I used was "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/vda bs=4M".
20:14<cheapie>ronicus: Yep, it basically just launches bash instead of doing any of that.
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20:16<cheapie>Now, another thought I had was that you *could* run some kind of disk wiper directly with init=, and maybe even kexec if you can't edit the bootloader config and reboot.
20:17<mnuhmnuh>ronicus: you could boot from a usbkey (cp /wherever.iso /dev/sdYADA) and wipe the data from there. I like tails, fwiw. :-)
20:17<ronicus>My issue is all this has to be automated no touchy kinda thing once the hardware is tripped
20:17<koollman>mnuhmnuh: the goal is to make that on a running system
20:18<mnuhmnuh>ah. came in in the middle of the story. carry on.
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20:19<ronicus>So pivot root is the only option for this kind of wipe?
20:19<koollman>ronicus: probably not, I'm sure there are many options :)
20:19<koollman>I would take a different approach. encrypt the disk. erase the key when hardware is tripped. safer/faster
20:21<koollman>you can probably set the system to avoid most kernel panic causes. you can trigger a reboot to a destructive init. we can find other ideas
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20:23<ronicus>with gpg?
20:23<ronicus>is that possible ?
20:24<ronicus>well actually the key would be hung in the memory thats bad juju for forensics
20:24<koollman>depends how hard you're trying to protect yourself. you require pretty specific hardware once you care about in-memory attacks
20:25<koollman>any data read since the OS booted might be in memory, too.
20:25<ronicus>well tails wipes the memory so it must be possible
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20:25<ronicus>its only 1gb of memory im dealing with
20:26<mnuhmnuh>ronicus: tails wipes/overwrites memory on reboot. find out how they do it?
20:26<mnuhmnuh>s/reboot/shutdown/
20:27<koollman>https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/memory_erasure/
20:28<mnuhmnuh>koollman: :-)
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20:28<koollman>although ... yeah, most of the issues they solve would also be easier to take care of with pivot_root :)
20:28<koollman>(no need to use memlockd)
20:29<mnuhmnuh>koollman: usability vs. ...
20:30<koollman>yeah. I wonder if it's more 'usable' to have some kernel code doing this kind of stuff. I mean, it's not trivial to write, but it will bypass many issues, too. 'modprobe deleteyourself' would be fun
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20:31<mnuhmnuh>koollman: try to get the code past Linus. :-P
20:32<koollman>well, if it causes data losses, it's working as expected :)
20:32<mnuhmnuh>feature!
20:32<koollman>exactly. just remove the smart part from the suspend2disk ... ahem. :)
20:33<koollman>it's the right idea. freeze all disk access. suspend all processes. then, do not save them. erase the disk and memory instead
20:34<mnuhmnuh>not in Kansas anymore, toto. stuff didn't used to be like this when I was a kid.
20:34<koollman>which by the way gives me an idea. the rootfs can be frozen, in many cases, without causing panic.
20:35<ronicus>koollman i think I read about that Ill have to look
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20:53<ronicus>If only tails would allow me to interface with ada fruit via rasberry pi that would be great
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20:54<mnuhmnuh>does r.pi have a usb port?
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21:00<ronicus>https://serverfault.com/questions/408614/securely-wipe-an-entire-linux-server-with-itself/408662#408662
21:01<ronicus>koollman scroll down to the dd if= comment and expand the lower comments they discuss that issue
21:03<mnuhmnuh>ronicus: hard to believe this sort of paranoia is necessary, considering fibbies trying/failing to sue apple into unlocking crypted phones.
21:04<mnuhmnuh>suspect NSA got them in eventually, but they're clueless about this stuff, listening to J. Comey, et al.
21:06<mnuhmnuh>maybe better to discuss in #d-offtopic i suspect
21:06<ronicus>I know from expirieance with the right encryption and provided they arent already popping your phone since android uses the same password to login as you encryption key which is a setup that they cant decrypt
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21:07<ronicus>you shit in quantico I have some phones sitting there right now in there forensics lab
21:08<ronicus>the comical part is if they decrypted them theres nothing to be found lol
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21:08<koollman>mnuhmnuh: a bit of paranoia (especially today with the intel vuln) is reasonnable
21:08<ronicus>anyone thats been under fed indightment knows theres no such thing as to much with these boys
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21:09<ronicus>the how google encryption scheme is a sham though independent keys would be better but thats not possible
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21:10<delx>Yeah, if you were using full disk encryption with LUKS the easiest way to securely erase is by using `cryptsetup luksErase`
21:11<mnuhmnuh>koollman: agree since fibbies are sucking ignorants into manufactured terrist plots these days.
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21:12<ronicus>ohh yeah watch (t)error2015 thats proof of how corrupt they are
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21:12<ronicus>they couldnt get the kid on terrorism charges so they trump some other stuff up
21:13<mnuhmnuh>corrupt, I expect these days. ignorant and stupid/silly is new one for me.
21:13<henrythereaper>Did you guys see that trump ad CNN banned
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21:14<ronicus>I just wanna develop this to help protect others from the same harrasment in life but most people arent bright enough they will carry there cellphone next to my hardware the cell will be in monitor mode and pop the got r00t
21:14<ronicus>as soon as you connect to the network
21:15<koollman>ronicus: inspiration from this : http://www.design-shift.com/orwl/ ?
21:15<ronicus>no henrythereaper
21:15<abrotman>!ot
21:15<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
21:15<ronicus>is that orwell ?
21:15<henrythereaper>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsQ8_58V3Q
21:16<henrythereaper>Here it is
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21:17<koollman>I've been messing with a vm ... it has become rather hard to make a pivot_root to some tiny busybox initramfs nowadays :/
21:18<koollman>err, tmpfs, rather.
21:18<ronicus>Yeah but my concern with a device like that is these turds will yank the chips and find another way around orwl
21:18<ronicus>koollman
21:18<abrotman>!ot
21:18<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
21:19<ronicus>koollman jump over to debian off topic
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21:20<abrotman>Thank you
21:20<koollman>is it really offtopic to try to make a pivot_root in debian ?
21:20<abrotman>no
21:20<koollman>then ... ?
21:20<abrotman>The other bit was offtopic
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21:32<koollman>is there some way to have a very reduced systemd 'init level' ? like 'kill everything but my current shell'?
21:34<abrotman>koollman: you can go to runlevel 1 ?
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21:53<somiaj>koollman: you can boot up directly into a shell, no need of init. I think with systemd you can use a single-user target to shut most things down.
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21:58<delx>koollman: Can you do trick it by replacing the binary and doing `systemctl daemon-reexec` ?
21:59<koollman>delx: that's a good, hackish idea ;)
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22:02<delx>My specialty!
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22:03<koollman>anyway, here are the bits and pieces I've got. https://paste.debian.net/hidden/b0b2acf7/ ... I guess I can continue to build on that to have a complete 'separate from current system, go to ram only' script :)
22:04<delx>I think you should keep the systemctl isolate runlevel1.target as well as the daemon-reexec
22:04<koollman>(initially it was for ronicus, but I actually have needed a similar script before. I've done some in the far past, but without systemd and cgroups and shared fs and stuff)
22:04<delx>The isolate will shut down all other services first.
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22:08<delx>TIL /proc/sysrq-trigger
22:09<koollman>delx: yeah. not the prettiest thing to use. but pretty nice when you want some pretty fast actions
22:09<koollman>echo b in it, very fast reboot :)
22:09<delx>:)
22:09<delx>I'd still try to umount everything in /proc/mounts which looks like a disk
22:09<delx>Just in case the kernel decides to read something or flush
22:09<koollman>tried. can't unmount /oldroot, busy
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22:10<delx>How are you connected to your terminal?
22:10<delx>ssh?
22:10<delx>If so that's why.
22:10<koollman>vm console
22:10<delx>huh
22:10<delx>Did you exec chroot?
22:10<delx>Or is the old shell still around?
22:11<koollman>probably still around. runlevel1 is not just a shell. it's a tiny process tree, but still a tree. and I did not yet try the daemon-reexec part
22:11<koollman>I'll try more tomorrow, I need some sleep now
22:12<delx>Good luck!
22:13<delx>You should check /proc/*/root
22:13<koollman>oh and I forgot that there's a "usermod -p '!' root", too , to avoid password prompts, which would obviously break a script
22:13<delx>After the pivot you don't want anything with /oldroot
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23:44<Ronicus>how do i find debian repositories to add to my list
23:44<Ronicus>i need gpg and for some reason it cant be found
23:46<delx>https://www.debian.org/mirror/list
23:46<delx>Did you try running apt-get update?
23:48<Ronicus>deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
23:48<Ronicus>yeah
23:51<somiaj>I would use either ftp.countrycode.debian.org or deb.debian.org
23:53<somiaj>also I would use the release you are using over stable, so use 'jessie' instead of stable
23:53<somiaj>!jessie sources.list
23:53<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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