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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-05-05

---Logopened Fri May 05 00:00:37 2017
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00:02-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
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00:48-!-begriffs is "begriffs" on #debian-offtopic #debian-haskell #debian
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06:16<Huitochka>Hi! What's the most simple way to get nvidia gpu temp from console? nvclock is apparently too old and doesn't support new cards, and thus removed from jessie. is nvidia-settings -q gpucoretemp the only way?
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06:34<itd>Huitochka: You could try lm-sensors (or nvidia-smi)..
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06:38<Huitochka>hmm, lm-sensors doesn't seem to find gpu sensor
06:38<towo^work>that's normal
06:38<towo^work>use nvidia-smi
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06:42<Huitochka>meh, and that one requires some dependencies
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07:25<evilQ>hi, does someone can recommend me a good soft to recover files in deleted hd ?
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07:28<amdgoon>evilQ:what filesystem type was files on?
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07:41<Brigo>evilQ, testdisk is the best i know
07:42<evilQ>amdgoon, ext4
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07:43<evilQ>Brigo, thanks, I am using it right now, and maybe there is light after all :
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07:45<Brigo>evilQ, good luck.
07:45<evilQ>Brigo, thanks ;)
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07:53<evilQ>Brigo, testdisk RULES. amazing soft, everything recovered after playing with tables
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08:19<Brigo>evilQ, good for you
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08:43<Ecko>Not specifically a Debian question: Say I have Debian set up as a router. Now I want to also make it an access point. If I assign the same subnet to access point client as the one of wired clients, are wired clients able to communicate with wireless clients?
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08:48<itd>Ecko: Client A <---wireless--> Debian router <---wire---> Client B? If think you still need to enable packet forwarding on the Debian router.
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08:49<Ecko>itd: Yup that's the correct situation. Packet forwarding is enabled
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08:58<Komputerfreak>hi
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09:00<Komputerfreak>i verified my iso files with gpg and it says something like ok, but there is no guarantee the key actually belongs to the associated person
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09:03<Komputerfreak>the sianture of the MD5SUMS i mean
09:03<Komputerfreak>*signature
09:03<itd>Komputerfreak: What is your question?
09:04<Komputerfreak>my question is if this is normal and the files can be used
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09:05<itd>Komputerfreak: Can you provide the exact message, please? (Read "/msg dpkg localized errors", if the message is not in english.)
09:07<TotallyNotKim>if it's about checking the validity of a debian iso file, comparing the md5 or sha hash should be sufficient
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09:10<Komputerfreak>gpg: Signature made Tue Jan 17 10:20:41 2017 CET using RSA key ID 6294BE9B gpg: Good signature from "Debian CD signing key <debian-cd@lists.debian.org>" gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B
09:10<Komputerfreak>thanks about the language hint
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09:13<TotallyNotKim>I would like to enable a ssh pam module if the connection origins from outside a specified subnet
09:14<TotallyNotKim>is that easily solvable, or do i need a wrapper around that module, that checks the ip first etc
09:15<itd>Komputerfreak: https://serverfault.com/a/569923 - does that help?
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09:23<guardian>hello, will or does stretch installer allows me to install and format my root partition with ZFS?
09:24<Komputerfreak>if I understand it correctly it says I should decide myself if I want to trust debian keys or use intermediate keys which I trust to confirm I can trust the debian keys
09:24<grawity>TotallyNotKim: you can precede it with a module that checks the IP (maybe pam_succeed_if or pam_access) and skips 1 module on success
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09:25<TotallyNotKim>thats what I thought. Thanks for clarifying
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09:38<itd>Komputerfreak: You are right.
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09:42<itd>guardian: Looks like: no - see bug #861263
09:42<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/861263 in debian-installer (open, d-i, wontfix): «debian-installer: zfs support»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2017-04-26; last modified: 2017-04-26.
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09:44<babilen>Komputerfreak: At one point you have to decide what and who you trust. In regards to the GPG signature you would, essentially, have to trust people in the web of trust in order for there to be a link between you and the key used for signing by the cd team.
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09:44<guardian>itd thanks
09:45<babilen>Komputerfreak: Alternatively you would have to trust that data downloaded from https://*.debian.org does indeed come from Debian and that you do trust Debian to deliver correct data to you.
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09:45<guardian>itd: so is this even possible to have ZFS on the root partition when using debian?
09:45<guardian>itd: (in case you know)
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09:48<itd>guardian: No idea, sorry.
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09:49<Komputerfreak>i see, i think i will trust debian (what would be the point of using their software if i didn't)
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09:51<Komputerfreak>as they claim it is the official cd signing key on their website, and i got it from their keyserver, i will believe it is the real one - or is there a better way?
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09:51<grawity>doesn't matter where you get it from, as long as the fingerprint is the same
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09:53<grawity>(I mean, most keyservers sync everyone's keys)
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09:55<Komputerfreak>true, as long it is not SHA1 or MD5 :-)
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09:56<Komputerfreak>not sure what is used for the signatures
09:56<Komputerfreak>probably a safe one
09:56<Komputerfreak>(or for the keys)
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10:25<babilen>Komputerfreak: Unless you physically met people with keys in the Debian Keyring, checked their ID and did whatever you deem necessary for you to establish trust between you and person you won't be able to establish a trust path
10:27<hexa->Komputerfreak: today that would be sha2, sha256 if I'm not mistaken
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10:29<Ichabod>Hello, I appear to be having a fairly major issue with a degraded LVM Raid5 system
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10:31<Ichabod>The Raid5 consisted of 3 devices, of which one failed. The system was shut down, and rebooted after some time. I followed the documented procedure (vgchange -ay --partial VGNAME; lvconvert --repair VGNAME/LVNAME) but this fails consistently
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10:32<Ichabod>the specific error: https://paste.debian.net/930883/
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10:52<Komputerfreak>hexa yes i checked sha256 originally, md5 (or sha-1) are just a nice addon
10:52<Komputerfreak>ah, you mean for the key. nice to know.
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10:53<Komputerfreak>babilen i see
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10:55<babilen>Komputerfreak: And then you have to ask yourself if you trust every single link in the chain of trust
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11:14<Komputerfreak>ichabod hypothetically speaking: what would the rebiuld parameter do?
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11:14<Ichabod>Komputerfreak: I'm not in here atm to humour you...
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11:15<Komputerfreak>ichabod sorry, i will find out myself then
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11:16<Komputerfreak>babilen yes seems plausible
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11:17<Komputerfreak>ichabod i was wondering if it rebuilds the raid5 with the new device - but judging by your answer it doesn't
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11:31<itd>Ichabod: Which kernel version?
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11:32<Ichabod>itd: Linux colonial 3.16.0-4-amd64
11:32<Ichabod>so latest jessie kernel
11:32<Ichabod>it appears that the rmeta LVs was zeroed
11:32<Ichabod>is there any way to recover from that?
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11:57<CQ>hello, how can I seen when https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 would make it into testing or jessie?
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11:59<Ichabod>CQ: never
12:00<CQ>Ichabod: ok, different question, when will the fix to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856843 be there? Ben talks of backporting it
12:00<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/856843 in src:linux (closed, fixed-upstream, patch, upstream): «connection flood to port 445 on mounting cifs volume under kernel 4.9.0»; severity: important; opened: 2017-03-05; last modified: 2017-05-03.
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12:03<Ichabod>well, jessie doesn't run the 4.9 kernel, it's 3.16, so it doesnt need this patch?
12:03<Ichabod>stretch is frozen right now, so you'll likely have to wait until after the move of stretch to stable
12:05<CQ>when is stretch due to be released? I don't mind moving to stretch for the fix. I'm running 4.9.0 from jessie-backports right now
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12:10<CQ>hm, no relase date yet...
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13:04<Komputerfreak>i was wondering if the firefox-esr in debian is more secure (less bugs) than the mozilla version, or what browser should be used in general
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13:12<judd>Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.6.0esr-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 45.9.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 45.9.0esr-1; stretch: 45.9.0esr-1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; experimental: 52.1.0esr-1
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13:12<judd>Package: firefox-esr-l10n-id on amd64 -- jessie: 45.6.0esr-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 45.9.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 45.9.0esr-1; sid: 45.9.0esr-1; experimental: 52.0.2esr-1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1
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13:17<lin>would someone here like to help me installing debian? i have a weird issue, that i cannot fix
13:17<lin>(during the installation process)
13:17<lin>is this the right channel?
13:19<infinity0>it's the right channel but not everyone is active with helping all the time
13:19<infinity0>usually it's best to just ask your question and wait
13:19<infinity0>what's your issue
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13:21<lin>i have a completely partitioned drive with a working luks on it and a working lvm on that, i am now in the middle of the debian install process
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13:21<lin>i loaded the dm-crypt module, but neither in any menu nor in the ash i can decrypt my drive to format the disignated logical volume
13:22<lin>cryptsetup does not exist in PATH nor in /sbin
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13:32<Komputerfreak>judd so the answer is that these are the supported versions in debian?
13:33<Komputerfreak>i am confused because a forum warned me to update my firefox
13:33<Komputerfreak>becaue of 'known security issues' when i used 45.9
13:34<Komputerfreak>no, it was 45.6
13:35<itd>Komputerfreak: judd is a bot. judd lists the firefox versions available in debian. For a list of security issues in that package and their status: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/firefox-esr
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14:05<Komputerfreak>i miss the days were browser were happy to be able to display a picture
14:05<Komputerfreak>nowadays they are monsters with millions of lines of code
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14:07<Komputerfreak>what does it mean when a security update says 'execution of arbitrary code' - is it really as bad as it sounds?
14:07<itd>Komputerfreak: Example?
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14:09<Komputerfreak>https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3831
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14:17<itd>Komputerfreak: The result is as bad as it sounds, but (luckily) often special preconditions must be met to exploid such a vulnerability.
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14:25<Siecje>How can I install Java 8 on debian jessie?
14:26<real007>from synaptic
14:26<real007>Siecje aptitude update
14:27<real007>from synaptic you can, research in synaptic
14:27<real007>is easy
14:27<real007>i'm away
14:27<Siecje>real007: debian server no GUI
14:27<real007>in mode console?
14:27<real007>i use mate
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14:28<real007>Siecje how time you are using debian jessie
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14:28<real007>I use Unix like/posix from 20 years, i'm 41 years old, of barcelona
14:29<real007>are begginer(novice)
14:29<real007>canada
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14:30<itd>judd: versions openjdk-8-jre
14:30<judd>Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 8u121-b13-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 8u121-b13-4.1; sid: 8u131-b11-1
14:30<real007>enter in this channel #linux #debian-offtopic
14:30<real007>i have
14:30<itd>Siecje: Java 8 is called openjdk-8-jre in debian and is part of jessie-backports.
14:30<real007>with jave make chats in network
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14:30<itd>Siecje: You would need to enable backports and then install openjdk-8-jre.
14:31<real007>well i go read my book of latin
14:31<real007>not are
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14:32<itd>Siecje: Does that help you or do you need further information?
14:33<localhorst>o_O is openjdk the oracle jdk?
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14:34<localhorst>The version names are the same as in the oracle jdk.
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14:35<spacebug^>Trying to install Debian on my "Asus VivoMini UN45H". I have trouble with black screen when trying to load gnome. I can't see if there is any error in Xorg.log, here it is https://pastebin.com/yxjMjmPF
14:36<itd>dpkg: tell localhorst -about openjdk
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14:37<Komputerfreak>sounds like a xorg driver problem
14:38<Komputerfreak>maybe you could try the vesa driver?
14:38<itd>spacebug^: Could you please post the result of `lspci -nn` on paste.debian.net?
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14:40<spacebug^>itd: http://paste.debian.net/930919/
14:41<Komputerfreak>the first error complains about no dri device being present
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14:43<Komputerfreak>but seemingly the vesa driver was already tried automatically
14:44<spacebug^>This site https://ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-debian-newer-intel-graphics says somethign about trying jessie-backports to get newer xserver-xorg-video-intel
14:44<spacebug^>could that be it?
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14:47<Komputerfreak>do you happen to own a device similiar to this: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Intel/NUC5PPYH ?
14:47<itd>spacebug^: Maybe. If you don't mind, give it a try. (Backports instructions: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/)
14:48<Komputerfreak>it says the integrated intel hd adapter does not work with jessie, but with stretch
14:49<Komputerfreak>i would try backports first
14:49<spacebug^>Komputerfreak, itd yeah, like that website I pasted. Will try backports later and see. Thanks!
14:50<spacebug^>well actually the webpage said to enable testing but I read somewhere in the comments about using backports.. I think :)
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14:52<itd>spacebug^: Don't mix testing and stable. Try only backports.
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14:52<spacebug^>itd: yeah, I will :)
14:52<itd>(and stable, of course. ;))
14:53<spacebug^>hehe
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14:56<spacebug^>hum.. no luck ;(
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15:00<spacebug^>so the problem is no working driver? Should not Xorg stop with error message in that case?
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15:03<itd>spacebug^: Could you please post your latest Xorg.log?
15:05<spacebug^>https://pastebin.com/xsd8085m
15:07<towo`>spacebug^, what are you trying to do?
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15:08<spacebug^>towo`: I'm unable to get X working on my new mini-computer
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15:09<towo`>spacebug^, new in case of intel gpu?
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15:10<spacebug^>I think it's this http://ark.intel.com/products/87261/Intel-Pentium-Processor-N3700-2M-Cache-up-to-2_40-GHz Q1 2015
15:10<towo`>that's not that new
15:11<spacebug^>it SHOULD work in Linux according to Intel.. but I can't say what driver it needs
15:11<towo`>but you maybe need kernel and intel ddx from backports for propper support
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15:11<spacebug^>ddx?
15:12<towo`>spacebug^, xserver-xorg-video-intel == ddx
15:12<spacebug^>ah
15:12<spacebug^>well I have that from backports. Not a newer kernel though
15:12<towo`>and even libdrm if it is available in backports
15:12<towo`>spacebug^, only the ddx would not help many
15:13<spacebug^>but I canät figure out.. is X missing a working driver or not? If so then why does it not shut down with error message?
15:13<towo`>why should it?
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15:14<towo`>it's starting with vesa, and than implies, that KMS is not available
15:14<spacebug^>Have it not before? Hum..
15:14<towo`>but KMS is nessesary for intel graphics
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15:14<spacebug^>towo`: ok
15:14<towo`>so install the backports kernel
15:14<spacebug^>I installed the libdrm from backports now. What package is needed for new kernel?
15:15<towo`>linux-image-amd64?
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15:15<itd>dpkg: bpo kernel
15:15<dpkg>Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'».
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15:16<spacebug^>thanks.. I'm on it..
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15:21<spacebug^>YAAAY it worked \o/ Many thanks to towo`, itd. Great support!
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18:20<zerocool>hola
18:20<somiaj>!es
18:20<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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18:57<nick[0]>From CLI, how do you list packages synaptic would classify as "local"
18:57<nick[0]>? I've spend close to half an hour reading everything I could find...
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19:02<Epakai>nick[0]: aptitude search ~o
19:03<nick[0]>Epakai: thanks! ~o? Does synaptic's 'local' = 'obsolete' ?
19:04<Epakai>aptitude's does, i think it essentially means the package isn't available in any of your current repositories
19:05<Epakai>https://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html#searchObsolete
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20:07<nick[0]>Epakai: thank you for the link to the docs :-)
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20:21<lechatnoir>kernel build / make-kpkg question
20:22<lechatnoir>Does the kernel-pkg.conf file pgp line need a short (8-char) keyid, or can it take a long fingerprint?
20:22<lechatnoir>And if the latter, in what format? Thanks.
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20:25<lechatnoir>Also trying to sort out a radeon hard GPU lock bug, if anyone's got ideas on that.
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20:29<lechatnoir>Awful quiet in here...
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20:30<Tjis>well your questions are rather specific. I for one have no idea
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20:33<lechatnoir>Tjis: There's that
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20:35<lechatnoir>is there a channel listing here? It's alis on freenode, not sure w/ oftc
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20:52<pi_>test
20:52<pi_>can you hear me?
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20:53<bremner>pi_: yes.
20:53<somiaj>lechatnoir: make-dpkg is depricated, have you tried just using made deb-pkg from the tools inside the kernel source?
20:53<pi_>wow, irssi is so cool
20:54<somiaj>weechat seems to be more popular these days, irssi is for the old foggies.
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20:55<bremner>!next
20:55<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
20:56<somiaj>maybe going to install weechat...
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21:01<bremner>heh. You _wish_ people listened to you that well ;)
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21:04<dvs>that's why he'll install andchat. ;-(
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21:36<lechatnoir>somiaj: I wasn't aware of that. No, I hadn't.
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21:39<somiaj>unsure if that will help with your actual question though, but the more current build scripts are shipped with the kernel and not provided by make-kpkg these days
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21:53<lechatnoir>when did the deb-pkg preference happen?
21:53*lechatnoir hates change in stuff ...
21:54<somiaj>upstream started providing build scripts designed for debian, and it is more likely more efficent to use/matain those than to keep writting custom scripts
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21:54<lechatnoir>somiaj: OK. I remember Linus ranting about The Debian Way a while back -- past year or ... maybe five.
21:55<somiaj>change was slow, not sure how long ago it happened. You can still use make-kpkg, but the offical build scripts are now in the kernel and you don't need the additional tool.
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21:55<somiaj>as such I don't think make-kpkg gets as much mataince as it use to and some things just may work better with the upstream scripts
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22:00<lechatnoir>somiaj: Good to know.
22:01<lechatnoir>I noticed that the config process was ... long. 100s and 100s of questions, and that from 3.16 to 4.11 kernel.
22:01<somiaj>I stopped rolling my own kernel around 3.0, I thought it was getting big then...
22:01<lechatnoir>somiaj: Either there's a lot of change going on or I didn't get the old config specced right.
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22:02<lechatnoir>somiaj: Yeah, I've got a glitchy graphics card problem I'm trying to sort out. Thought a new kernel might help with that.
22:02<somiaj>how new of a card?
22:02<lechatnoir>somiaj: Radeon GPU lock issue.
22:02<lechatnoir>2007 new :)
22:02<somiaj>I doubt 4.11 vs 4.9 will have much of an affect on that hardware
22:03<somiaj>using the open radeon driver with the non-free firmware? Think it could be bad hardware, I have had memory go bad on my cards causing random locks
22:03<lechatnoir>Seems like there was a mfr's new driver released ~2010 which screwed things up. Hits OSX, Windows, _and_ Linux.
22:03<lechatnoir>somiaj: Bad HW is also a possiblity. Though some way of checking that would be useful.
22:04<somiaj>I have had a hard time getting good diagnosis tools for gpu
22:05<lechatnoir>Yeah.
22:05<lechatnoir>This is an iMac. Otherwise pretty useable, and the non-accelerated (SW accel) option seems to work, so I could try disabling the vendor driver.
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22:05<lechatnoir>Makes all teh shinay new WMs into GoSlow, but that's not necessary.
22:06<somiaj>and you have the non-free firmware for radeon cards installed?
22:07<somiaj>are the locks up random or very reproduciable?
22:07<somiaj>replacing or adding another video card that easy with an imac?
22:08<lechatnoir>somiaj: Pretty reproducible. After a minute or so of operation. Symptoms vary slightly. 3.2 saw the OS still accessible, 3.16 saw the OS lock hard (unpingable).
22:08<lechatnoir>I'm not sure how accessible the HW is, I haven't looked at that. The units are kind of designed to _not_ be repairable, AFAIU. I know memory and disk are upgradeable (both of which would be useful).
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22:09<somiaj>internet seems to suggest it isn't easy
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22:09<lechatnoir>somiaj: yeah, that's my read.
22:14<lechatnoir>Though the problem didn't seem to affect OSX. That was 10.6 though, which might be pre-update. Hrm...
22:15<lechatnoir>I managed to blow away the OSX partition during installation, which hasn't much mattered until about now, when I'd like to actually check the HW. There is the install disk which I can run.
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22:55<piper>lechatnoir: you can try apt remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon this helped a lot of people using our distro (based on sid) back in january, if it don't work, can always reinstall what was removed
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23:01<lechatnoir>piper: Thanks.
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23:01<piper>lechatnoir: no problem
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23:04<lechatnoir>piper: amdgpu isn't installed, ati and radeon are. I'll give that a shot.
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23:04<lechatnoir>I'll be out of channel here while rebooting the box (never IRC from the server you're working on...)
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23:05<piper>lechatnoir: yeah, that just covers it all ;)
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23:07<lechatnoir>piper: OK. Actually, I don't find amdgpu in the package list at all. Looks as if the remove wants to get rid of a bunch of stuff, including task-cinnamon-desktop, task-desktop, and task-kde-desktop. Hrm.
23:07<lechatnoir>Um. 'xserver-xorg-video-all'... ?
23:08<piper>lechatnoir: ok, must be much different in stable, don't do it :)
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23:09<lechatnoir>piper: It sounds ... a bit extreme. Appreciate the suggestion though.
23:10<lechatnoir>I'm basically looking for ways to cut through possible causes / cures. The kernel build time makes that ... a slow option (~3h to build).
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23:11<piper>lechatnoir: well, it helped here https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=6475.msg53549#msg53549 and also a way around intel problem at the time
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23:12<piper>shit, forgot on debian channel, my apologizes for link outside of debian
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23:13<lechatnoir>piper: We'll let you live. This time.
23:13<piper>:P
23:14<lechatnoir>piper: Actually, first I've heard of siduction. So your stealth marketing is working.
23:14<piper>ah, just broke a rule here, not good
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23:15<GLolol>is that actually a rule?!
23:16<lechatnoir>GLolol: ^^ what you said.
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23:16<piper>GLolol: well, it's like asking for support for ubuntu, sparky etc
23:16<lechatnoir>Hrm. Looks like xorg acknowledged this.
23:17<lechatnoir>piper: Meh. _Asking_ for Ubuntu support in a Debian channel is one thing. Pointing to Ubuntu docs for a solution (that works) is fine AFAIC
23:17<GLolol>piper: if your intention is to help, linking to outside resources isn't necessarily bad
23:18<GLolol>i wouldn't worry about it
23:18<piper>lechatnoir: GLolol : i suppose your right , i just try not to piss people off :)
23:19<lechatnoir>piper: I've mostly realized people will get pissed off no matter what ...
23:19<piper>lechatnoir: so true
23:19<lechatnoir>OK, looks as if xorg-xserver 2:1.19.0-3 might have a fix as well
23:19<lechatnoir>And I've got 1:7.7+7 installed, on jessie.
23:20<lechatnoir>Is there a backports deb source?
23:20<lechatnoir>Indeed there is: jessie-backports. Hold my beer.
23:21<piper>lechatnoir: i havent ran stable close to 2 decades, i don't know about backports :(
23:21<lechatnoir>piper: I'm usually testing myself, but I kind of prefer life boring these days.
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23:22<piper>lechatnoir: that will change hopefully soon
23:22<lechatnoir>piper: I hope it doesn't. I'm getting too old for this shit.
23:22<piper>yeah, i know what you mean
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23:24<lechatnoir>Feh. I'm not seeing more recent xserver-xorg packages despite backports & update. Sec.
23:24<lechatnoir>Is there a way to query packages _only_ from a specific repo?
23:26<lechatnoir>... other than grepping the /var/lib/apt/lists files directly :)
23:26<lechatnoir>I see updated ati and radeon vodeo there
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23:28<lechatnoir>OK, that gives me two things to test -- kernel and xorg. BBIAW
23:28<lechatnoir>Oh: irssi: is there a quick way to save current settings to a configfile?
23:29<lechatnoir>SSL connections seem to be something not done from commandline
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