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#debian IRC Logs for 2017-05-12

---Logopened Fri May 12 00:00:44 2017
---Daychanged Fri May 12 2017
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00:01-!-cyphase is "Cyphase" on @#p4xriddle #osm-dev #osm #oftc #love @#lost #virt #suckless #qemu #powerdns @#house.md @#heroes #guardianproject #gcc #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-mentors #debian #debconf #ceph-devel #ceph #awesome @#PrisonBreak
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00:32<rjsalts>CloudStack?
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01:09-!-Strife89 is "Michael Carr" on #debian #debian-next
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01:26-!-dhanesh95 is "Dhanesh Sabane" on #debian-offtopic #kernelnewbies #debian-welcome #debian-mentors #debian-meeting #debian-in #debian-desktop #debian-bugs #debian
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01:31<ekhan>clear screen
01:31<ekhan>attack
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01:40-!-dhanesh95 is "Dhanesh Sabane" on #debian-offtopic #kernelnewbies #debian-welcome #debian-mentors #debian-meeting #debian-in #debian-desktop #debian-bugs #debian
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01:47-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian #debianppc #debian-next
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02:28-!-juergh is "Juerg Haefliger" on #debian-cloud #debian
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02:30<kscal>hello
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02:35<IRLC_ind>anyone used selenium webdriver to interact with google maps (moving marker around the map)?
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05:01<cementbox>hey ho
05:01<cementbox>hows PPL
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05:18<itd>Is 'does not work if pwd contains a whitespace' a bug or an user error? :/
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05:33<bremner>probably a bug, but for some things not easily fixable
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06:08<itd>CeBe: Nothing concrete. I remember some package builds failing because some file could not be found; I think I had some issues with vagrant as well.
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06:09<bremner>package builds are exactly the case where I'd consider it most user error, since Make is really crap at handling paths with spaces in them
06:10<bremner>so, it's arguably a design flaw (one among many) in make, but it would require time travel to fix
06:10<itd>The issue is annoying, but circumventable by using another path name.
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06:48<osis>Hello! I am looking for help is this correct cannel for some stretch issues?
06:49<bremner>osis: #debian-next
06:49<osis>thanks
06:49<osis>i though so
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09:09<el>HOLOA
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09:15<shiftplusone>I see /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm has some debug messages. Would somebody happen to know where they go or how to see them? For example: debug developer => "starting ".join(' ',@args);
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09:16<shiftplusone>...hmm DEBCONF_DEBUG environment variable maybe
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09:20<shiftplusone>nope
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09:30<shiftplusone>Ah DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer did it. Time to stop talking to myself like a crazy person
09:33<itd>shiftplusone: You are not alone. ;) You can also try #packaging or #debian-mentors (if the package is for debian) if you don't get a response here. :)
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09:35<shiftplusone>Thanks. Although it's not really a packaging issue. Looks like a debconf bug, but I know next to nothing of perl, so it's a bit of a pain to figure out.
09:36<shiftplusone>Would probably be told to go elsewhere in those channels.
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10:44<antzero>Are there DVD images with non-free firmware included? similar to the non-free cd-including-firmware ?
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10:45<antzero>Or - is there a reliable way to add the non-free firmwares (like copying the firmware.zip into firmware/ to an existing usb installation key?
10:45<antzero>*extracting firmware.zip, not copying
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10:52<jmcnaught>antzero: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en
10:54<antzero>jmcnaught: How is that helping? Loading from a USB key during the actual is not a reliable way
10:54<antzero>Not for my definition of "reliable", at least
10:55<antzero>*during the actual installation
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11:09<petn-randall>antzero: You can install the system fine with DVDS without firmware, as long as your system boots without it. You can then install the firmware packages after first reboot.
11:10<petn-randall>antzero: If you need firmware to run your network card, you need to provide it by hand.
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11:10<petn-randall>antzero: It's not much of a choice; the firmware is non-free, and sometimes comes with some restrictions for distribution.
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11:28<antzero>petn-randall: there are a lot of ways to "provide it by hand", I'm just asking if there's a reliable way to include them in the installation device
11:29<antzero>Unfortunately , plugging another device with the firmware during the install never worked in my experience
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12:22<rno>hi. I'm having a printer on a network. I'm trying printing with gimp. only gimp running as root is finding the printer...
12:22<rno>I'm without finding anything about perms with the net. the cups server is remote, local machine is cups client. I would like gimp finding the printer with regular user...
12:23<rno>ah yeah both print server & local machine are with jessie
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12:32<rno>ok. I found a way. solution is: assign the user group 'lp', restart x next a login
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12:41<ach>windows wheezy hosted users are allowed
12:42<bremner>ach: what are you babbling about?
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12:44<ach>crunch put windows often on my debian so also think both are neat to use.
12:45<ach>on?
12:45<piper>bremner: +1
12:46<sney>Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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13:31<Omochao>hey, can anyone help me install pipelight on Debian stable? I'm only finding guides like this one http://paperiniktips.sviluppo-siti-web.com/how-to-enable-pipelight-apt-repo-for-debian-8-jessie9-sid-linux/ which points to a URL that doesn't exist anymore
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13:32<sney>a quick google says it was discontinued
13:33<sney>that's the silverlight enabler thing, right? I managed to build it for jessie at one point but it doesn't actually work anymore
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13:35<robr4f_debian>Hi all
13:35<Omochao>sney: meh, I was hoping to get Sky Go working on Linux so we can finally throw Windows off the living room computer
13:36<sney>my goal was similar. yeah, if it wasn't functional a few months ago then it's not magically working now
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13:45<itd>Omochao: I guess the skype package for Linux is not an option. You could try: https://web.archive.org/web/20160710011651/http://repos.fds-team.de/
13:50<Omochao>itd: how would this be different from sney's manual build?
13:50<itd>Omochao: No idea. It's just an image of the now vanished domain.
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13:51<Omochao>hmm
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14:21<robr4f_debian>bye all !
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14:53<Komputerfreak>are the sha256/512sums for older debian 8 releases still available somewhere?
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14:56<Komputerfreak>i do not want to redownload 3 dvds :-(
14:56<localhorst>use jigdo to build 8.8 DVDs from the old ones
14:57<itd>Komputerfreak: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.7.0/
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14:57<itd>(if you want 8.7.0)
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14:58<Komputerfreak>both are nice hints, thx!
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16:17<guilherme>Hi, I would like to ask if there is a way that I can use to monitor disk read/write for an specific program
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16:20<lindi->guilherme: /usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/examples/io/disktop.stp should do it
16:20<lindi->guilherme: what are you actually trying to do btw?
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16:25<guilherme>Once I read that spotify uses the disk too much and it would be potentially dangerous to the disk. I would like to confirm it
16:25<rno>guilherme: maybe "atop"
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16:26<guilherme>there is no "/usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/" on my system
16:27<itd>judd file /usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/examples/io/disktop.stp
16:27<judd>Search for /usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/examples/io/disktop.stp in jessie/amd64: systemtap-doc: usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/examples/io/disktop.stp
16:28<lindi->guilherme: you can use the second form of http://packages.debian.org to find out which packages ships some file
16:28<lindi->guilherme: it is a vital skill to have in a debian system :)
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16:29<guilherme>thanks a lot! :)
16:30<hubot>Hello!
16:31<hubot>How can I restrict access to glassfish deployment JEE container? I want to allow access only by VPN.
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16:43<Marc101>@hubot i guess, that's depending on your network and topology. I have no experience with glassfish... but StackOverflow tells someting like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4063376/how-to-restrict-connections-to-glassfish
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16:44<Marc101>Anyway: I would restrict access by using a network firewall / iptables / nftables
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16:45<Marc101>Your VPN-GateWay should always be behind/between some kind of firewall. This firewall permits or denys access to any kind of server.
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16:46<Marc101>So: VPN-Gateway -> Firewall -> Glassfish-Server
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16:46<hubot>Marc101: I need restrict connections to port 8080 and 4848
16:46<hubot>Users that are in VPN network have access to glassfish resources
16:47<hubot>I use shorewall
16:48<Marc101>shorewall is your vpn-gateway
16:48<Marc101>?
16:48<hubot>So: OpenVPN network user -> Firewall -> Access to glassfish user or Internet user -> Firewall -> Dropped packets
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16:49<hubot>Shorewall is an overlay for iptables
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16:53<Marc101>Firewalls don't care about users. They just permit/deny IP/TCP/UDP traffic to certain ports/ip addresses. If you want to restrict access for your glassfish-server, you must basicaly restrict the vpn-network.
16:54<Marc101>So: You deny all tcp-traffic from your firewall to your glassfish-server expect your vpn-network and the ports you mentioned before
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18:57<hunt>Hi
18:57<hunt>coud you give me some tools for information gainner
18:57<hunt>thanks in advance
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18:59<illwieckz>The complete Radeon stack is now opened, from kernel driver (amdgpu) to OpenGL 4.5 (radeonsi), Vulkan (radv), DirectX9 (galliumnine) rendering and now OpenCL (rocm) computing. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-ROCm-OpenCL-Opened
18:59<illwieckz>http://dl.illwieckz.net/b/linux-gpu-compatibility-matrix/
18:59<zeta>hunt: i don't understand what you're looking for
18:59<illwieckz>free sofware strikes again
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19:05<hunt>i'm looking for a tools like email_collecter or theharvester
19:07<ach>it is not worth a quote?
19:07<ach>oh maybe yes
19:08<hunt>no it's working
19:08<hunt>but i'm looking for more
19:08<hunt>;)
19:09<ach>sorry
19:09<ach>:)
19:10<hunt>Hhh
19:10<hunt>you don't need to sorry
19:10<hunt>we are bor'w ;)
19:10<hunt>bro'w
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19:11<ach>serious i am about ask that question good job
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19:12<ach>hey hey
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19:15<hunt>let's scan this web sie 2m.tv
19:15<hunt>hahahah
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19:20<sney>hunt: it looks like at least one of the ones you asked for is on github. also, how is this debian related?
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19:24<hunt>can you clarify your question
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19:26<sney>you are in #debian, which is a support irc channel for debian users. is your search for software related to using debian, or did you perhaps wander into the wrong channel?
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19:30<hunt>i'm using parrot system
19:30<hunt>based on debian
19:30<sney>!parrot
19:30<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
19:31<tomg>!based on debian
19:31<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
19:31<tomg>:)
19:31<tomg>it's right in the bot
19:31*tomg pats dpkg on the head
19:31<sney>yep, this happens multiple times a week so it's nice to have canned answers
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19:39<hunt>thanks you les ga
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20:25<itchy>hello
20:26<itchy>im having this error: "unexpected inconsistency run fsck manually"
20:27<itchy>i tried fsck /dev/sda1 but i didnt know how to proceed
20:27<itchy>can you help me?
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20:28<itchy>it asks to ignore error and I m not sure what that means
20:29<itchy>also if to fix i suppose that it is dont ignore/fix but i would like to confirm
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20:41<ach>took your installation media boot from it umount /dev/sda1 or go to maintaince shell log in and fsck
20:43<itchy>maintaince shell on the grub?
20:43<itchy>recovery mode?
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20:48<ach>yes
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21:45<fizzOuNet>oftc good network?
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21:51<madaboutjessie>I dont have fsck on my install shell
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22:45<mumbl>Hello. Is there a way to use two monitors with the framebuffer (without X)?
22:46<madaboutjessie>is totally possible mumbi
22:46<madaboutjessie>in my case i have one monitor and the tv
22:47<madaboutjessie>though you might have to do some modesetting
22:48<mumbl>I was searching and only finding split screens, multiple terminal logins, X based
22:48<madaboutjessie>it should work without much config
22:48<mumbl>Do you know where I can read about it?
22:49<madaboutjessie>it depends what do you want to do and what gpuy you have
22:49<madaboutjessie>there is not much info because i think is not a deal
22:50<madaboutjessie>in my case i started with two monitors since installation
22:50<madaboutjessie>when you boot the computer, dont you have image on both monitors?
22:50<mumbl>I have an nvidia card with 3 different ports, but they all work independently in X
22:51<madaboutjessie>if not you may have a trouble in your hardware
22:51<madaboutjessie>indepent monitors is a different thing
22:51<mumbl>That's what I want without X
22:52<madaboutjessie>though i read somewhere how to associate different frame buffers to different ttys
22:52<madaboutjessie>would that satisfy you?
22:52<madaboutjessie>search in the web multiple frame buffers
22:52<mumbl>ok
22:52<madaboutjessie>you will need a driver for that
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22:58<mumbl>keep finding things that eventually say X11
22:59<madaboutjessie>it happens
22:59<madaboutjessie>but you need to search for framebuffers
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22:59<madaboutjessie>since terminal ramebuffer is the equivalent to x screen
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23:01<madaboutjessie>give a read to this mumbi https://www.dafyddcrosby.com/dual-framebuffers/
23:01<madaboutjessie>therre says how to not use x at all
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23:10<mumbl>He says it broken as of 2014
23:10<mumbl>I'll just run xfce and be done with it
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23:26<mumbl>I can run 3 heads this way anyway. Just need full screen terms
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23:29<satyr>yo :)
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23:30<somiaj>mumbl: unsure how many console features the kms drivers have, but they are the modern framebuffer. Maybe there is something in the kms drivers that can do this.
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23:31<^Satyr^>just trying out Deb8.8 (CentOS/RH person so far). Need some tips on installation.. specifically:
23:32<^Satyr^>1) Installation forces user creation (not optional?) is it possible to 'skip' that step?
23:32<^Satyr^>2) Installation installed X (no package selection?) by default. This is for a server. I don't want bloat! :-/
23:32<somiaj>^Satyr^: what do you mean skip that step. Do you not want a non root user at all?
23:32<^Satyr^>3) eth0 was picked up as dhcp, and there's no config in /etc/network/{interfaces,interfaces.d} areas?
23:32<^Satyr^>somiaj: yes, I want to skip non-root user (if possible)
23:33<^Satyr^>not a dealbreaker but saves me going back in to clean it up
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23:33<^Satyr^>besides it's not production
23:33<pabs>^Satyr^: I think you could skip it if you enable expert mode
23:34<^Satyr^>I'll have to reinstall it then by the sounds of it. Probably has options to clean up X and other stuff in expert mode
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23:34<somiaj>^Satyr^: 2 and 3 are easy to deal with. When you get to tasksel (last thing to run that allows you to select programs to install), unlselect the desktop. The reason you don't see eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces is because the desktop tool network-manager is configuring the network.
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23:35*^Satyr^ mutters something about systemd/network-manager :P
23:35<somiaj>^Satyr^: I like having a non root user, but expert mode gives you a lot more flexability, and a lot is skippable it just doesn't appear that way.
23:35<somiaj>sysetmd and network-manager are not interconnected
23:35<^Satyr^>so pretty much just hardcode a new interface block in /etc/network/interfaces file
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23:35<^Satyr^>or interfaces.d/eth0 (I presume is the convention?)
23:36<somiaj>did you have network when you did the install? It should be writing info about the network used during the isntall to that file.
23:36<^Satyr^>installed into a VM (XenServer based)
23:36<^Satyr^>no eth0 entries in either of the interfaces/interfaces.d paths
23:36<somiaj>convention is a single file, /etc/network/interfaces
23:37<^Satyr^>there's an "auto" for lo, but not eth0. No probs I can hardcode one block back in there. Thanks for that. I will reinstall it with expert mode
23:37<mumbl>I might try that on my laptop. Desktop has plenty to run xfce
23:37<somiaj>^Satyr^: as I said it may not have been put there because of using the desktop, so you can use desktop tools to manage the network. Either works.
23:38<somiaj>^Satyr^: what install image did you use?
23:38<^Satyr^>somiaj: default one I downloaded (Debian 8.8-DVD)
23:38<tomg>there's a man 5 interfaces if you're curious
23:38<somiaj>just grab the net install, it actually contains a minimial base system and won't need the internet to install that
23:38<^Satyr^>debian-8.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
23:38<somiaj>if you want to start with a minimial system, cancel, or skip the stage where it asks what additional software to download.
23:39<tomg>i recommend the net install too
23:39<^Satyr^>ok. Thought net-install just means it DOES need the net to drag stuff that's not on the install media
23:39<tomg>yeah it might not be perfectly named
23:40<somiaj>net install is the minimial system, need the network to install anything else.
23:41<somiaj>its fairly minimial, though probably equivlant to centos minimial setup. Though things in debian are just dealt with differntly than centos.
23:41<^Satyr^>somiaj: Yep. Trying to learn a whole new /etc structures heh
23:41<^Satyr^>most of the skills translate (yum -> apt-get)
23:42<somiaj>even then, yum update and apt-get update are not the same
23:42<somiaj>and just use apt, not apt get, so apt update, apt install
23:44<somiaj>^Satyr^: I've recentally had to use centos, and I'm finding the switch slow, lots of little differences I end up having to look up.
23:45*^Satyr^ starts reinstall off net-inst
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23:48<tomg>and why does he need to reinstall?
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23:49<tomg>you can remove users through vipw and vigr
23:49<tomg>or userdel and groupdel
23:49<tomg>there's documentation for this on tdlp.org and i assume the Debian manual
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23:49<tomg>"UNIX is user-friendly, it's just picky about its friends."
23:49<^Satyr^>hah I'm just trying to practice setting up from minimal
23:50<^Satyr^>it's a fresh VM anyway
23:50<tomg>well, i fully support curiosity and practice
23:51<^Satyr^>I generally prefer cleaner installs than removing. From experience, some packages don't remove now useless dependencies
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23:57<^Satyr^>Load Installer Components from CD (off expert): That is all once-off right? (ie. no additional packages off final install?)
23:57<tomg>use apt-get autoremove or debfoster to get rid of expired dependencies
23:57<^Satyr^>Looking at virtio/network-console
23:58<tomg>i don't think you could say yes to that option if you wanted to
23:58<^Satyr^>seemed to have gone through so far
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