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00:00<blastwave>hebrew --> תי פז, חופשי ב
00:00*blastwave waits for a screenshot
00:01<blastwave>I work with multi-lingual code so for my systems I get to see everything .. except thai
00:01<blastwave>no one seems to have that sorted out in X windows yet :-\
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00:02<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: i use urxvt with irssi, mrxvt for multi-tab terminal console. i see a tiny carat over the e in Isabellê and funny i in Pìerre. hebrew looks correct תי פז, חופשי ב; don't know hebrew. :-)
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00:03<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: in that case the client is working. I am using basic irssi in an xterm and everything works here
00:03<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: urxvt appears to handle it well.
00:03<blastwave>okay .. so the question becomes ... whats borked ?
00:06<mnuhmnuh>have to guess mate desktop is doing what's been done, not me. oh, and this box was (oops) installed with testing installer; running stretch. i know about #debian-next :-) and am in there too.
00:06<mnuhmnuh>assumed my question was generic #debian.
00:06<blastwave>I am running stretch on a number of systems .. no major issues here
00:06*blastwave even has ppc64 running
00:07<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: oddity: LESS=-ceigqj5Mx4X doesn't work in user acct., but works for root. ?!?
00:08<themill>mnuhmnuh: I still don't know what isn't working
00:08<blastwave>errrr ... what is the env vars for root and how does it differ from the user
00:08<blastwave>do this .. please .. as a user do env | sort > /tmp/env.user
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00:08<blastwave>then as root do this env | sort > /tmp/env.root
00:09<blastwave>then diff them
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00:09<blastwave>this feels like an environment issue
00:09*blastwave is curious now
00:09*blastwave also ... needs a coffee .. brb
00:10<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: "set" displays it set identically in both user and root.
00:13<blastwave>er... not sure what you means by "set" but you should have a whole whack of VARIABLE=foo stuff
00:13<linux7>hello
00:14<linux7>i wanted to ask how i upgrade the java platform version 1.7 to version 1.8 in my debian jessie with the GNOME desktop
00:14<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: one sec .. the keurig is cooking a french roast here :-)
00:15<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: http://paste.debian.net/932364/
00:16<mnuhmnuh>no hurry here.
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00:17<blastwave>linux7: I have a mixed reaction to your question .. hold on a sec k ?
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00:17<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: now that I have a coffee and see that paste .. lets clean up your env a tad
00:18<linux7>ok blastwave
00:18<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: a thing that seems entirely missing is LC_foo stuff
00:18<blastwave>unless you have that /etc/profile.d/locale.sh script working great
00:18*blastwave barfs at LS_COLORS
00:18<themill>linux7: openjdk-8 is in jessie-backports
00:19<themill>dpkg: tell linux7 about jessie-backports
00:19<blastwave>linux7: the correct answer if you want production software to run is to get the download jdk from oracle
00:19<themill>ick
00:20<blastwave>I know ... it is work to deal with '
00:20<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: need to log out & in again, maybe reboot too to really check ... no hurry.
00:20<blastwave>however if you want java version "1.8.0_131" then you need the real JDK from Orackle
00:20<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: no need to reboot ! let's not be windows users :-)
00:20<blastwave>linux7: go to http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
00:21<blastwave>linux7: get the download for your architecture and extract them into /usr/jdk
00:21<themill>mnuhmnuh: you don't have LESS exported in one of those sessions
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00:22<blastwave>linux7: in fact .. you need a dir called /usr/jdk/instances and in there you will get jdk1.8.0 extracted there
00:22<linux7>thanks alot guys
00:22<linux7>i going to try it
00:22<blastwave>linux7: this will result in a path /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.8.0 and in there will be bin and all the goodness you need
00:23<themill>or you could just use openjdk-8.
00:23<blastwave>linux7: hold on .. not so fast man
00:23<linux7>ok
00:24<blastwave>linux7: so the install process is easy but once you do this you will need to ensure that JAVA_HOME and JRE_HOME point the right place and put /usr/jdk/instances/jdk1.8.0/bin in your PATH real real early
00:24<blastwave>linux7: I have done this over and over and over and over and if you do it carefully and correct you can run Atlassian Jira and Confluence servers in Debian just great
00:24<mnuhmnuh>LS_COLORS looks fine here, 'cept for dark blue dirnames. :-P
00:24<themill>or you could just use the debian packages.
00:24<linux7>oh ok blastwave
00:24<linux7>then i do it later today.
00:25<blastwave>themill: those packages are not supported in commercial grade environments
00:25<blastwave>themill: sorry .. those are the facts .. get the real thing from the easy downloas
00:25<themill>blastwave: something tells me someone who is running gnome isn't installing Jira
00:25<blastwave>themill: yeah .. true
00:25<linux7>but thanks alot for the information blastwave
00:25<blastwave>themill: however it can not hurt to have the full JDK/JRE installed as well asthe packages from Debian distro as they won't collide at all
00:26<blastwave>been there .. got the t-shirt and the trophy
00:26<themill>(and any code that doesn't run on openjdk is buggy code; openjdk is *the* reference implementation and oracle's is but one installation method)
00:26<mnuhmnuh>themill: you win the prize. root exports LESS, and user just populates it. :-O
00:26<blastwave>themill: sorry man .. the sources are cooked by a bunch a Sun guys I used to work with and I know the ref implemention.. let's not go there
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00:26<themill>mnuhmnuh: hence wanting to see 'env' not 'set'
00:27*blastwave hates Java anyways
00:27<linux7>and if i do it via the jessie backports ?
00:27*blastwave thinks anything can happen
00:27<linux7>what is the syntax for the install ?
00:28<linux7>apt-get install openjdk-8 ?
00:31<themill>!install java
00:31<dpkg>For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea-plugin package. For other Java programs, install the default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6> packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>.
00:32<linux7>hmmm better i do it later today
00:32<linux7>huge hangover at the moment.
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00:34<linux7>yeah i hate java too blastwave
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00:35<linux7>but i need version 1.8 for an program.
00:35*blastwave *sigh* points to http://paste.debian.net/plain/932367
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00:37<blastwave>linux7: I just showed you exactly how to slide in JDK 1.8.0_131 latest release
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00:37<blastwave>linux7: the thing to watch out for is that Mozilla has dropped support for ye old applets and only the jws stuff will work
00:37<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: where were we my Canadian fellow ?
00:38<linux7>thanks alot blastwave
00:39<blastwave>linux7: you can try it .. works great for me .. but yes there are packages in the debian world and they are great but the stuff from Oracle ( snoracle ) will support everything on the planet .. at least from my cross platform testing .. you are borked on ppc64 however
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00:40<linux7>oh ok
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00:41<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: themill figured out user wasn't exporting LESS, just setting it.
00:41<mnuhmnuh>not tested yet.
00:41<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: cool ... I always unset LESS as I never use it
00:42*blastwave has been using "more" since the 80's
00:42<mnuhmnuh>try most.
00:42<mnuhmnuh>or w3m.
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00:43<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: I generally get my stuff from https://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ and it it ain't there .. I look to nist or a few other places
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00:46<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: i don't find that i don't find much of what i'm looking for, just using deb mirrors. specialized stuff as from SciLinux SLC? may be too much to ask. :-|
00:46<blastwave>been building from sources and doing this for too many years .. I still cook my own stuff in /usr/local and work on a bunch of projects so ..
00:47<linux7>blastwave i made my bootable usb stick for debian jessie with windows 10 , and i see in the ''vmlinuz'' icon the word ''DOS'' but ''DOS'' is special for windows right ?
00:47<linux7>picture: http://imgur.com/a/2fx7B
00:47*blastwave is jolted
00:47<blastwave>DOS ? you see DOS in there somewhere ? hrmmm .. one sec let me pnder that
00:48<blastwave>could just be the partition type
00:48<linux7>oh ok
00:48<linux7>see my screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/2fx7B
00:48<blastwave>looking
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00:48<blastwave>okay .. so yes the bootable image will be a DOS partition type
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00:49<blastwave>if you examine a hex dump of that thing you may see a DOS header somewhere ... not sure .. I would need to verify .. I don't think I have used a usb stick for that in a long time
00:50<linux7>oh ok
00:50<linux7>i always install linux with cd's
00:50<blastwave>also ... I have seen Win10 but don't have it here .. sorry .. I have Win7 in a VMware virtual machine and vista also
00:50<linux7>but this laptop is brand new and haves no CD-ROM for install linux distro's with an CD
00:51<blastwave>generally I push out the install from a tftp server in house and use pxe boot but the newer machines are making life a misery in that regard
00:51<blastwave>no DVD ? wild
00:51<blastwave>the world changes faster than I can keep up
00:51<blastwave>I bet it has no punch card reader either
00:51*blastwave made a joke there
00:52<linux7>yeah indeed , expensive laptop without DVD , strange.
00:52<blastwave>don't tell me .. let me guess .. is it a HP ?
00:52<linux7>yes
00:53<linux7>but i always destroy windows if i buy an new laptop
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00:53<linux7>and i always install an linux operating system.
00:53<linux7>because i LOVE linux :)
00:53<blastwave>damn ... I had a guy come to me wit ha new HP laptop and it uses the new firmware and it was a bitch to get debian into it
00:53*blastwave me too
00:54<linux7>you know what microsoft does to say an BIG no to linux installs ?
00:54<linux7>they put the secure boot in ENABLED and the secure boot keys too
00:54<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: usb provides all pluggability you need these days for external devices. put your floppy drive in your tower and scp from your handheld device. :-)
00:55<linux7>but if you put it in disabled in your BIOS then it's LINUX TIME :)
00:55<blastwave>I have a very very long standing hatred for MS .. they were once a great software company .. but that was in 94
00:55<linux7>indeed.
00:55<linux7>i hate microsoft
00:55<linux7>stupid commercial company
00:57<blastwave>I was working on an open unix but then Sun was kicked hard and Oracle stepped in and borked up a lot of hard work .. we almost had it running on the IBM mainframes with the new power chips
00:57<linux7>i called them to say that i always destroy windows 7 / 10 if i buy an new laptop and now is microsoft angry at me haha
00:57<mnuhmnuh>linux7: Win* has always clobbered Linux' bootable flag. install Win* first (if you must), then Linux after.
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00:57*blastwave hugs his opteron servers
00:57<linux7>hmm ok mnuhmnuh
00:58<blastwave>so anyways .. yes .. I have seen these new HP laptops with no DVD and it seems .. very odd
00:58<linux7>indeed.
00:58<linux7>all the thanks to microsoft and HP
00:59<linux7>they don't want that people destroy windows 10 and install an linux operating system hahaahhaha
00:59<blastwave>I think UEFI is the issue
00:59<linux7>yep.
00:59<linux7>UEFI i did someting with
00:59<blastwave>sorry .. I am wrong .. UEFI is fine if it is implemented in the firmware according to the specs and then any OS can be installed
00:59<linux7>microsoft does everything to hold people from linux ahahahahah
01:00<blastwave>however the HP folks are damn near making it a hell of a task to get around their UEFI
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01:00<linux7>yep indeed blastwave
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01:02<linux7>now microsoft want's i fill in an service help desk form because i have destroyed windows 10 (as always ahhahahaha)
01:02<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: both my last two hp laptops (AMD 64 bit, radeon video) ran too hot, burnt up. Intel xeon quad core handles it fine, but running 32 bit so far.
01:05<ach>yeah you not productive enough you think it is better to exist or humanity is not perfect
01:05<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: i have LC_ALL=en_CA.utf8 in /etc/profile.d/locale.sh - should it be exported?
01:06<linux7>2 months ago i had an hp elitebook notebook buyed , but not brand new and that thing was broken after 4 days pfff
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01:08<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: er .. hold on .. sorry .. was working on something here
01:08<blastwave>if that script is written to setup the user env then give it a try in a new session with " . /etc/profile.d/locale.sh" be sure the use the leading dot
01:09<linux7>long time ago that i had Debian
01:09<linux7>for two years i had Kali linux as main operating system.
01:09<blastwave>I think I was running it in some fashion back when Debra wasn't yet married to Ian ...
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01:10<linux7>but i was an little bit sick of Kali and now i have installed my favo pentesting tools in Debian ahahha
01:11<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: if env, then needs export.
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01:11<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: yes .. all my vars are export'd
01:12*blastwave looks at https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/signers
01:13<blastwave>pardon me .. need to step away .. working on something here
01:14<linux7>463,- euro for this laptop (specifications) : https://pastebin.com/FAhdbGKh
01:16<blastwave>that should run debian 9 ( stretch ) just fine
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01:16<ach>i hate products with 4 gb ram
01:16<linux7>me too i want more RAM
01:16<blastwave>if you want to stay in a very very safe place then debian jessie is good
01:17<linux7>how to put RAM memory cards in an brand new HP laptop guys ?
01:17*blastwave hugs his opterons : /proc/meminfo says MemTotal: 33016460 kB
01:17<blastwave>linux7: probably damn near impossible ... what is the model of it ?
01:18<linux7>must take a look for it
01:18<linux7>1 sec
01:18<blastwave>8GB would be good
01:18<Komputerfreak>what is up with the new laptops?
01:18<linux7>yeah i want 18GB RAM :)
01:19<linux7>it's an HP intel core i3 inside
01:19<blastwave>Komputerfreak: they have a nasty UEFI firmware and Windows 10 pre-installed complete with chains and hand cuffs to lock you in place
01:20<Komputerfreak>darn, sounds evil
01:20<linux7>indeed.
01:20<linux7>but if i want to destroy windows 10 then i go for it :P
01:21<linux7>i HATE windows and i LOVE linux
01:21<Komputerfreak>windows 10 may be the biggest spyware ever installed on a system
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01:22<linux7>indeed Komputerfreak
01:22<mnuhmnuh>ah crap. "Xman Error: No manual pages found." grr ...
01:22<mnuhmnuh>used to work fine.
01:22<blastwave>there are a few minor issues in the Linux kernel but way up in ver 4.9 etc : https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/bulletins/SB17-121
01:22<ach>i am old wheezy user but the most secure system i build was a windows 2003 server
01:23<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: what do you have for MANPATH ?
01:23<ach>i build firewalls not more
01:23<Komputerfreak>why not?
01:24<linux7>what HP and microsoft does to hold Linux installs is this: an very nasty UEFI , secure boot in the BIOS in ENABLED and the secure boot keys in ENABLED too , what i did is this: secure boot and secure boot keys in DISABLED and the BIOS settings back to the factory settings. and 1 other thing i cannot remember.
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01:25*blastwave and a black cat under a full moon was in there somewhere
01:25<linux7>next time i buy an brand new laptop , i buy one WITHOUT pre-installed operating system and with DVD , linux party :)
01:25<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: when echo $MANPATH
01:26<Komputerfreak>i had a hard time finding these last time i tried, laptops + os dvd
01:26<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: dumb question .. you do have a bucket of stuff in /usr/share/man ?
01:26<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: when echo $LC_ALL == "", it works. when set to en_CA.utf8, fails.
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01:27<mnuhmnuh>dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
01:27<linux7>Komputerfreak : i mean buy an brand new laptop from the factory without pre-installed windows 10 and indeed that stupid HP put alot chains and hand cuffs in the laptop to hold you away from LINUX.
01:28<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: I am running out of ideas .. never heard of this one
01:28<linux7>seems microsoft has an new deal with HP
01:28<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: do this : man -s 3 pthread_create
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01:30<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: better yet .. run this --> MANPATH=/usr/share/man LC_ALL=C man -s 3 pthread_create
01:31<linux7>look guys this is windows 10: http://imgur.com/a/I2jf9
01:31<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: " MANPATH=/usr/share/man LC_ALL=C man -s 3 pthread_create" - perfect.
01:31<linux7>in my country everybody has windows 10 and they even don't know what linux MINT is my god
01:32<linux7>i know 2 others who has linux.
01:32<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: okay .. so lets put MANPATH=/usr/share/man into that /etc/profile.d/ somewhere
01:32<linux7>windows idiots in my country i swear to god
01:32<mnuhmnuh>linux7: sounds like some vicious multi-nationals i've worked for.
01:32<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: I mean .. we know that you have manpages and we know that LC_ALL works for locale C
01:33<linux7>i live in the netherlands mnuhmnuh
01:33<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: lets try the same thing .. but with MANPATH=/usr/share/man LC_ALL=en_CA.utf8 man -s 3 pthread_create"
01:33<linux7>all windows lovers here ewwwwwwwwwwww
01:33<linux7>they make me sick ahaha
01:34<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: nope, that box under attributes is high-bit munged.
01:34<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: wow ... this is bizarre
01:35<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: what rev of debian again ? what do you have in /etc/debian_version exactly ?
01:35<mnuhmnuh>i've since dpkg-reconfigured, btw.
01:35<linux7>i have every day my Kali Linux t-shirt @ my body haahah , screw that windows lovers :P
01:36<mnuhmnuh>stretch
01:36<linux7>and 3 huge posters of Kali (the dragon) on my walls in my house ahahaha
01:36<linux7>and an sweater too :P
01:36<linux7>xd
01:36<mnuhmnuh>9.0
01:36<linux7>i going to try to get shoes too :P
01:36<linux7>Kali is based on debian testing
01:37<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: hrmmm .. same here
01:37<linux7>but it is nice to have debian jessie back
01:37<linux7>next laptop i buy i install kali on that one.
01:38<linux7>i walk with my kali t-shirt inside the microsoft store / market here ahahahah
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01:39<mnuhmnuh>linux7: you should take that to #debian-offtopic
01:39<linux7>you are right , sorry
01:40<Komputerfreak>it would be *even more* dangerous to walk into a kali store with a windows shirt though
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01:40<linux7>hahahah Komputerfreak :P
01:40*blastwave once wore an OS/2 shirt
01:40<mnuhmnuh>i got kicked from #philosophy for singing ("mnuhmnuh ..."). :-)
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01:41<Komputerfreak>i mean the one where they sell these t-shirts
01:42*mnuhmnuh treasures eff NSA shirt.
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01:42<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: as a Canadian you can walk around just fine with f*$k NSA all day
01:43<Komputerfreak>as an american you can't?
01:44<blastwave>Komputerfreak: who knows .. that country is insane ... however this is offtopic eh?
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01:44<Komputerfreak>yes, i will be ontopic now
01:45*blastwave we can always try .. but this is fun ;-)
01:47<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: are we making progress at all ?
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01:53<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: LC_ALL=C displays manpages not bad, en_CA.utf8 not so well.
01:54<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: I am baffled
01:54<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: seriously ... this is weird ... and what are you using as a terminal ? XTerm ? gnuterm ?
01:55<mnuhmnuh>ditto. i thot LC_ALL was irrelevant if all other locale stuff was handling things.
01:55<mnuhmnuh>mrxvt
01:55<mnuhmnuh>and urxvt
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01:56<mnuhmnuh>irssi in urxvt looks great.
01:56<mnuhmnuh>man, in mrxvt, no.
01:56<mnuhmnuh>xman also icky.
01:57<mnuhmnuh>will see what happens after log out & in.
01:57<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: just for giggles try to run a simple xterm
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02:00<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: MANPATH=/usr/share/man LC_ALL=en_CA.utf8 man -s 3 pthread_create in xterm is gorgeous!
02:01*blastwave yay!
02:02<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: perhaps our entire issue here is the terminal
02:02<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: can't go wrong with xterm
02:02<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: better yet is uxterm
02:02<linux7>going to sleep guys , huge hangover and very tired
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02:03<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: yeah, i went with rxvt cuz it was smaller, less cruft they said. this box can do xterm easy.
02:04<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: run this --> /usr/bin/uxterm -fg green -bg black -fn 10x20
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02:05<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: throw this into your home directory ~/bin ---> https://paste.debian.net/plain/932375
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02:08<mnuhmnuh>blblthat uxterm also gorgeous.
02:08<blastwave>now you can read the man page to xterm .. for hours .. it is massive
02:09<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: don't i know.
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02:10<blastwave>the man that writes the sources is a real monster ... Thomas E. Dickey and his code is awesome
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02:10<blastwave>a brave man can compile from sources : http://invisible-island.net/xterm/
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02:13<blastwave>speaking of which I am currently compiling libiconv-1.15_3.16.0-4-powerpc64
02:15<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: so then ... you're good eh ?
02:16<mnuhmnuh>blastwave: i've learned *rxvt has more limitations than i knew. too bad *xterm doesn't do multiple tabs in one window.
02:16<mnuhmnuh>otherwise, good.
02:17<mnuhmnuh>tx.
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02:17<blastwave>yeah .. the whole tabs thing is an Xwindows concept that doesn't translate into ye old xterm
02:17<ceh_>hi guys
02:18<blastwave>bon jour
02:18<ceh_>you use parrot?
02:18<blastwave>never
02:18*blastwave never seen it either
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02:19<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search parrot == ""
02:20*blastwave compiles libsigsegv-2.11_3.16.0-4-powerpc64.001
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02:24<blastwave>mnuhmnuh: good to see you're working well there .. time for me to switch into low priority thread mode
02:24*blastwave &
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02:36<mnuhmnuh>blacksyke: tx for letting me bang my head on you. helped. logging out & in now to test it all + xterm with stuff. fun.
02:37<mnuhmnuh>s/blacksyke/blastwave/
02:37<blacksyke>Hi!
02:37<blacksyke>Oh hey the server works again
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02:52<mnuhmnuh>so, is it xman is too old to display manpages spat out by kid devs these days, or i'm doin' it wrong, or manpages can be rebuilt? they look great in xterm.
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04:02<in1t3r>Anyone here have a bit more knowledge about smart errors on ssd? Can't find meanings for some of the error codes online. And I guess I have an ssd problem.
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04:06<in1t3r>from 160-169 codes I can't find online
04:07<medicalwei>I have a problem about community building but I don't know where to ask.
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04:21<medicalwei>So the question is, should any local Debian community being formed with any Debian's "official" consent, even if another Debian community exists in the same area?
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05:38<panos>how can i check if an old laptop has wifi? lspci doesnt show it
05:39<scrdcow>then you know it ;-) maybe with lshw.
05:39<ACTRN>hi panos "dmesg" command
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08:53<linux7>is it better to install openjdk 8 via the jessie backports or is it better to download the tar file from oracle website ?
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08:55<rudi_s>linux7: I'd recommend using the jessie-backports as it's tailored for a debian system and won't install in weird locations and can be properly removed.
08:55<linux7>ok
08:55<linux7>i have debian jessie 8.8
08:55<linux7>i must put the backports in my sources list ?
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08:56<rudi_s>!backports
08:56<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
08:56<rudi_s>linux7: ^
08:56<linux7>yes ?
08:57<rudi_s>Read it ;-)
08:57<linux7>ok
08:57<linux7>so deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ too main contrib non-free and deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ too main contrib non-free
08:57<linux7>?
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08:58<rudi_s>What?
08:59<rudi_s>linux7: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main
08:59<rudi_s>You don't need the deb-src line unless you also want to download source packages, which most likely you don't.
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09:00<linux7>thanks alot rudi_s
09:00<linux7>i put the repo's in my sources.list
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09:01<rudi_s>linux7: apt-get update; apt-get install -t jessie-backports package-name
09:02<linux7>sometimes i put the Kali repo in my sources.list if i need pentesting tools in my debian ahhahahaahah , i had Kali for two years as main Operating system but i was an little bit sick of Kali , when i have my vaccacion money i buy another laptop for Kali again lol
09:03<rudi_s>I wouldn't mix distributions which can cause weird errors but instead use a vm or a container for these tools.
09:03<linux7>i know what i do :)
09:03<linux7>don't worry :)
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09:03<rudi_s>Well, you're asking how to enable backports so I'm not so sure ...
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09:05<linux7>i have no experience with the backports
09:06<rudi_s>Anyway, just be careful and be prepare for unexpected bugs/conflicts when you mix packages from multiple distributions.
09:06<linux7>six months ago i did this in debian jessie : i put the kali repo in my sources.list and instead of only apt-get update and then the package name , i did this and debian was not broken: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
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09:06<linux7>it was only an sort of debian / kali distro hahahha :P
09:07<dvs>linux7, you got lucky
09:07<dvs>wait until stretch releases
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09:08<linux7>ah well i love experimenting but i don't recommend it
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09:11<linux7>ok i have put the backports repo in my sources.list and i maked it active by typing apt-get update
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09:12<linux7>what should be the package name for openjdk 8 guys ?
09:12<TSGeek>hi
09:12<linux7>o/
09:12<TSGeek>i have a problem with sound (jack port isn't working)
09:12<blast007>linux7: you don't know how to search for packages?
09:12<linux7>yes i know i think , little bit tired at the moment
09:14<linux7>i wanted to upgrade my java platform 1.7 to 1.8 blast007
09:14<blast007>so do a package search
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09:15<linux7>hopefully an .deb file from debian.org
09:15<linux7>i hate tar.gz balls :)
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09:16<linux7>i need adobe flash player , so i downloaded the .deb file from debian.org but the wget to the adobe website is broken guys!
09:17<linux7>is their an way to fix that problem ?
09:17<debianprablam>Hello everyone! I have a problem with installing a Debian LiveCD into my USB and loading it, I tried unetbootin, and others, but I always get a black screen when I try to boot from it
09:17<debianprablam>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to solve this? Thanks!
09:17<linux7>i downloaded the .rpm file from the adobe flash player website and with alien i convert it to .deb and it seems that it has been installed but it does't work
09:17<linux7>in my browser.
09:18<debianprablam>linux7: what is your browser?
09:18<blast007>debianprablam: do not use unetbootin or similar tools. they break debian. just write it with something like win32 disk imager if you're on Windows.
09:19<linux7>euh well i have destroyed firefox ESR and put firefox 53.0.2 in my debian from the official mozilla website and i have opera
09:19<debianprablam>blast007: thanks will try now and see if it works
09:19<debianprablam>linux7: ok, go to about:plugins do you see flash there?
09:20<linux7>blast007 i did it with unetbootin or another one and my debian works good.
09:20<linux7>i going to look debianprablam
09:20<blast007>linux7: "or another one"
09:20<linux7>yes cannot remember that blast007
09:21<blast007>they why comment?
09:21<linux7>blast007 : i made an bootable USB with this windows program: https://rufus.akeo.ie
09:22<blast007>debian's ISOs are already set up for booting from both CD and USB, so they just need to be written directly to either
09:22<blast007>tools that modify the image tend to mangle that and may result in issues
09:23<debianprablam>linux7: did you look into about:plugins ?
09:23<linux7>maybe you are right but i have no DVD in this laptop
09:23<blast007>linux7: please read what I said again if you think I said that a DVD is needed
09:25<linux7>i love dvd's more too but you know how microsoft thinks , microsoft put the secure boot in enabled and the secure boot in enabled and they put nasty UEFI firmware in brand new laptops and they lock you up with hand cuffs to keep you away from installing linux , boo microsoft booo!
09:25<linux7>yes i made an screenshot debianprablam
09:25<debianprablam>linux7: where is it ? :)
09:26<linux7>i going to upload it on imgur debianprablam
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09:27<linux7>debianprablam : http://imgur.com/a/ztqfu
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09:30<debianprablam>linux7: thanks
09:30<debianprablam>you don't have flash it seems
09:30<linux7>indeed no word of ''flash'' :)
09:30<debianprablam>(also don't forget to install the HTTPS Everywhere addon)
09:30<linux7>hmm ok
09:30<debianprablam>blast007: I tried again with win32diskimager but it didn't work :(
09:31<linux7>but it seems i have installed adobe flash player but not activated i think
09:31<debianprablam>what's so strange is that i used rufus+an iso image of subgraph (which is based on debian) and it worked for me
09:31<debianprablam>linux7: IIRC firefox disables flash by default
09:32<linux7>rufus works for me too
09:32<linux7>how to disable the flash ?
09:32<TheSuperGeek>So i recap my problem : i've got no sound with jack port, in mate. Pavucontrol and alsamixer are at maximum and sound works with livecd...
09:32<TheSuperGeek>what shoud i do ?
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09:34<linux7>next time when i buy new laptop without pre-installed windows 10 (because you are in jail then , because microsoft thinks : $$$$$$ and they don't want you to remove windows 10 ) but if you know how to do it with the BIOS , but my next problem was i seen after my buy of this laptop i had no DVD / CD-rom for bootable cd's , that is better then bootable usb
09:35<debianprablam>linux7: my laptop is 10 years old so i don't think the problem has to do with that
09:35<linux7>hmmm indeed
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09:36<rahul>anyone?
09:36<linux7>but you are able to make an bootable usb with rufus , debianprablam ??
09:36<debianprablam>linux7: no, only with a debian derivative called Subgraph OS
09:37<linux7>hmmm never heart of Subgraph OS , i going to google that
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09:38<rahul>Can someone tell me how to use Hexchat?
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09:38<rahul>I am using it right now but I really don't know whats going on?
09:39<linux7>debianprablam : https://subgraph.com/index.en.html << this ??
09:39<linux7>if you are using it rahul then it's fine right ?
09:39<piper>rahul: http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html
09:39<rahul>Yeah it fine
09:39<rahul>well thanks
09:40<linux7>Hexchat is not ''web browser chat'' rahul :)
09:40<piper>reading is a great tool
09:40<linux7>IRC is so different
09:40<debianprablam>linux7: yeah
09:41<linux7>debianprablam : i know that website from the Vega vul. pentesting scanner :)
09:41<linux7>maybe your laptop is too old debianprablam ?
09:42<debianprablam>linux7: if it runs a debian derivative (subgraph) can't it also run debian?
09:43<linux7>hmm i don't know
09:43<linux7>anybody here who can help debianprablam ?
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09:49<guy>hey
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09:49<linus_su>hey
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09:50<linus_su>guy@linux: ~ $ uname -a
09:50<linus_su>Linux linux 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
09:50<linus_su>guy@linux: ~ $
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09:51<bremner>linus_su: if there's a question in there, it sounds like you want #ubuntu, on freenode.
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09:51<danny_boy>ok
09:51<danny_boy>at work
09:51<danny_boy>bbl
09:51<linux7>i going to google what an debian derivative is , debianprablam
09:51<linux7>never heart of that too
09:52<debianprablam>linux7: a debian derivative is a distribution based on debian
09:52<linux7>i'm very curious now
09:52<linux7>oh ok
09:52<debianprablam>for example Subgraph = Debian + a lot of modifications ...
09:52<linux7>can you take an screenshot for me , debianprablam ??
09:53<linux7>i'm very curious
09:53<debianprablam>linux7: screenshot of what?
09:53<linux7>of your debian derivative
09:53<linux7>maybe i must google it first
09:53<linux7>this is new for me
09:54<debianprablam>linux7: i don't have subgraph installed
09:54<debianprablam>i just tried it
09:54<debianprablam>with the live usb
09:56<linux7>debianprablam , i am reading it now: https://www.debian.org/derivatives/
09:56<linux7>was very curious :)
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09:57<debianprablam>ok will ask my question again
09:58<debianprablam> Hello everyone! I have a problem with installing a Debian LiveCD into my USB and loading it, I tried unetbootin, and others, but I always get a black screen when I try to boot from it
09:58<debianprablam>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to solve this? Thanks!
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09:58<bremner>debianprablam: don't the instructions just suggest using "cp" ?
09:58<debianprablam>bremner: i'm on windows
09:58<bremner>ah. sadness.
09:58<dvs>debianprablam, yes a) don't use unetbootin to create a USB image and b) don't use a live CD to do an installation
09:59<debianprablam>i tried win32diskimager
09:59<dvs>see point b)
09:59<debianprablam>dvs: what is the alternative for b)?
09:59<dvs>a pure installation image without the live aspect
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09:59<bremner>use the debian installer if you want to install debian. But you still need to get the image onto the usb.
10:00<bremner>I'm guessing the installer instructions have windows hints
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10:00<linux7>yes they have bremmer
10:00<debianprablam>You mean the netinstaller?
10:00<dvs>yes
10:00<debianprablam>ok will try it
10:00<debianprablam>so i'll use win32diskimager for it?
10:00<dvs>yes
10:00<debianprablam>ok will try and get back
10:01<debianprablam>thanks dvs and bremmer
10:01<debianprablam>should take 15 minutes and i'll be back
10:01<linux7>try the .install iso debianprablam with rufus and after rufus is finished , shut down your laptop , and then put the usb in your laptop
10:01<linux7>and press f6 / or f11 / f12 and it must boot then
10:01<debianprablam>linux7: will do so if the netinstaller fails
10:02<dvs>!rufus
10:02<dpkg>rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
10:02<piper>+1
10:02<linux7>no no no
10:02<linux7>do the netinstall .iso file with rufus
10:03<debianprablam>linux7: i may try that if win32diskimager fails
10:03<linux7>ok.
10:03<linux7>be carefull with this kind of things debianprablam
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10:04<linux7>microsoft don't like it when you try to install an linux operating system and remove your windows :)
10:04<debianprablam>linux7: why did you want to install flash in your system?
10:04<linux7>for webcam sites :)
10:04<debianprablam>(that's a huge security hole right there)
10:04<sshman>hello all together,
10:04<sshman>I hope someone can help me.
10:04<sshman>"debsums -c" outputs this
10:04<sshman>-/usr/bin/ssh-add /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/ssh-keyscan /usr/bin/ssh /usr/bin/ssh-keygen /usr/bin/scp /usr/bin/sftp /usr/sbin/sshd
10:04<sshman>and I found the mail address 'sodahs@mail.ru' in the file '\usr\sbin\sshd'
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10:05<linux7>wich windows you have debianprablam ?
10:05<linux7>windows 7 ?
10:05<debianprablam>linux7: If i were you i'd just make a Virtual Machine with debian and install flash there, it's too risky to do it on your main machine
10:05<debianprablam>linux7: yes win7 :)
10:05<debianprablam>none of that win10 spyware
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10:06<blast007>debianprablam: unless you installed all the recommended updates, then you have some of their telemetry as well ;)
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10:06<linux7>i remember that terrible day that the wget was broken in the .deb file from debian.org :(
10:06<linux7>windows 7 is always better then windows 10 ewwww
10:06<debianprablam>blast007: yeah i know
10:06<linux7>i hate all the windows :P
10:06<debianprablam>that's why i wont to move to debian ;)
10:06<linux7>too many windows in windows ewww
10:06<linux7>linux for life :)
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10:07<sshman>hello, I wrote here http://paste.debian.net/932403/ a question and I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this
10:07<linux7>but i going to download windows 7
10:07<linux7>for 1 stupid thing linux don't want haha
10:07<linux7>and i put it in my VMware workstation player
10:09<blast007>sshman: wipe the system and reinstall
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10:10<blast007>potentially archiving the drive first if you think you can figure out how they got in
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10:10<blast007>(and of course, don't use the same passwords or keys)
10:11<sshman>thank you for your answer blast007, in the end I will do this, but I want to find out more information about it, what the binaries do
10:11<blast007>they probably have a backdoor that lets the attacker in and/or they collect and send all data that they see
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10:12<sshman>ya, my problem is that I dont know how to examine the ssh files further
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10:13<blast007>regardless, take the system down ASAP
10:13<piper>sshman: take it down
10:13<blast007>they might be using the system to attack other stuff
10:13<linux7>yep that is right i think too
10:13<linux7>do an fresh re-install sshman
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10:19<sshman>ok thank you, but isnt there a simple way to get some more information about it, like checking with strace what sshd do or something like that
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10:20<dvs>sshman, those could be comprimised too
10:20<debianprablam>where can i find sha256 sums of this https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-8.8.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso
10:20<piper>sshman: in a situation like this, i would say why bother but, that is just my opinion
10:20<debianprablam>sha256 of my downloaded iso 852d7acb22c4ee706272e51bc513aeb0d0f8302cba087d4e4112c7fc912d8e9d
10:20<dvs>debianprablam, https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/MD5SUMS
10:21<debianprablam>dvs: thanks a lot!
10:21<debianprablam>https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/SHA256SUMS
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10:24<debianprablam>dvs: it doesn't work i get a (it's fast so I don't have the exact wording) "isolinux.b is corrupt or missing"
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10:27<dvs>debianprablam, what's so fast? The scrolling keeps on going?
10:27<debianprablam>dvs: no i get that line alone
10:28<dvs>debianprablam, and you don't get a menu choice?
10:28<debianprablam>dvs: none
10:28<debianprablam>it shows that line alone then it quickly disappears
10:29<dvs>weird, I don't know what that is. It should show a menu.
10:30<linux7>you mean this dvs ? >> http://imgur.com/a/gfN4Q
10:31<dvs>yes
10:31<linux7>hmmm strange indeed
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10:34<debianprablam>so any ideas?
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10:35<dvs>nope, you can't do anything if it doesn't even get to a prompt of some sort.
10:36<debianprablam>dvs: ok i'll try to do burn on cd (even do my cd burner is broken and will likely not work)
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10:36<dvs>why is your cd burner broken?
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10:43<debianprablam>dvs: idk :/
10:43<debianprablam>it didn't work
10:43<debianprablam>doesn't recognize blank cd
10:44<linux7>i had the same problem with my previous laptop , cd rom / dvd / cd burner broken , i was't even able to do an live running with an linux operating system and my previous laptop was't able to boot an bootable usb stick
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10:45<dvs>could be it doesn't recognize a CD+R disk. But in this day and age that's difficult to find.
10:46<linux7>yeah indeed dvs
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10:47<debianprablam>dvs: ok will try with another usb stick
10:47<dvs>that's a good idea.
10:48<linux7>yes try another usb stick indeed
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10:55<danny_boy>bbl
10:55<dvs>no! ;-)
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10:59<gyllenkrook>hi. maybe this is not the most perfect channel for this question, but here goes: I run debian and when surf euscreen.eu most videos work but for some I get the following error message: "Video format or MIME type is not supported". this is strange since the video format is mp4,,, and some times it works, and some times it doesn't: how come?
10:59<debianprablam>dvs: WOOOORKS! :D :D okay will try the installation image instead of netinstat
10:59<debianprablam>problem was from USB stick
11:00<linux7>ok good news
11:00<linux7>do an good fresh debian install :)
11:00<linux7>and burn windows down :P
11:00<linux7>lol
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11:00<debianprablam>yup ;)
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11:01<linux7>euh i don't know if microsoft people are in this channel but i am downloading windows 7 microsoft to put in my VMware workstation player ahhaahahah boo microsoft boo
11:02<debianprablam>linux7: using thepiratebay? ;)
11:02<linux7>yes :)
11:02<debianprablam>thepiratebay FTW
11:02<linux7>you hear that microsoft ? i am using thepiratebay :P:P lololol
11:02<piper>and what does this have to do with debian support
11:03<dboles>yeah it''s getting a bit much
11:03<linux7>euh nothing piper , just saying.
11:03<piper>this is not a chat channel
11:03<debianprablam>piper: he initially wanted to install flash on debian but i convinced him to not do that and instead make a Virtual Machine
11:03<debianprablam>and install it there
11:03<linux7>you are right piper , sorry
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11:05<linux7>looks like debianprablam is going to install his fresh debian :)
11:05<piper>gyllenkrook: what browser
11:05<piper>he left
11:06<linux7>indeed , he left
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11:10<danny_boy>bbl
11:11<bremner>danny_boy: please stop the away messages
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11:59<digitalp4ul>hola
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12:28<danny_boy>bbl
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12:29<dboles>thanks for telling us you'll be back, person who i have never seen talking to anyone in this channel
12:30<chrispo>bbl
12:30<dboles>kk
12:30<chrispo>:D
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12:37<pron>and hes still not back
12:37<pron>;/
12:38<dboles>absence makes the heart grow fonder
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13:17<linux7>somebody hear who knows where i can find the java 1.8 platform package ?
13:17<linux7>i have version 1.7 in my debian jessie but i need 1.8
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13:31<missmbob>it's in jessie-backports
13:31<linux7>do you know how to install it via the jessie-backports ?
13:32<missmbob>!jessie-backports
13:32<dpkg>Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
13:32<missmbob>seee the url for further instructions. package name is openjdk-8-jre
13:32<linux7>that is what i needed , the package name
13:33<linux7>apt-get install openjdk-8-jre ?
13:33<missmbob>no. read the instructions
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13:33<linux7>ok
13:33<linux7>thank you
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13:45<Komputerfreak>if i do 'command1 | command2' data from command1 is not processed by command2 until 'enough' was collected. i think it is buffered. is there a way to disable buffering or otherwise solve the problem?
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13:49<Komputerfreak>at the command command1 just prints every line 10 times (so the buffer gets filled more quickly), but this does not seem ideal :-)
13:49<Komputerfreak>*at the moment
13:50<spacebug^>Komputerfreak: I came along this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25372/turn-off-buffering-in-pipe
13:51<spacebug^>stdbuf seems to be the things
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14:01<tomg>hi Komputerfreak, are you still here?
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14:01<tomg>yes, the pipe is buffered by default, but i guess I'll check the bash man page
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14:02<tomg>hey they have |& now, i didn't think it would ever be added
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14:06<tomg>komputerfreak, i don't know if the pipe can be changed in size
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14:18<Komputerfreak>thanks stdbuf works :-)
14:19<Komputerfreak>good to know abou this
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14:28<tomg>stdbuf, i had no idea that that command existed
14:29<tomg>thanks for letting me know
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14:30<Komputerfreak>spacebug found it, so i guess double thanks to him ;)
14:30<Komputerfreak>what is |& for?
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14:48<hubot>How can I restrict access to Glassfish to users that are in a VPN network using shorewall?
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16:00<mnuhmnuh>hubot: adduser maybe.
16:01<mnuhmnuh>perhaps with creative re-working of ugo perms and ownerships of involved resources. :-)
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16:04<mnuhmnuh>or just fwall wizardry.
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16:06<mnuhmnuh>perhaps your router's gui iface can do it, or teach you something maybe?
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16:30<VampiricPadraig>In /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I have the following: AllowUsers userA@1.2.3.4 - Can I do AllowUsers userA@1.2.3.4/32 ?
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16:32<rudi_s>VampiricPadraig: From man sshd_config: "HOST criteria may additionally contain addresses to match in CIDR address/masklen format."
16:33<rudi_s>So yes, but why would you do /32?
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16:35<VampiricPadraig>Yeah, I suppose it doesn't matter...
16:35<VampiricPadraig>It's just the 1 IP (if I'm correct)
16:39<rudi_s>VampiricPadraig: Yes. /32 in IPv4 is a single address.
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17:53<BenediktXVII>Hello everybody. I am trying to install debian 8.8.0 non-free KDE. However when I try to start the live session to test it out first it just brings me to a prompt asking for user name and password and it won't boot into the live session. Is it a graphics driver bug ? Any help is greatly appreciated.
17:54<ach>hi how can i do in the kernel variable max_conntrack?
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18:04<BenediktXVII>Anybody ?
18:05<ach>have i just to write ìt in the map
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18:07<ach>look if the bash is open
18:08<ach>also for sure i can hack you this pw.
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18:18<ach>Do you want to know you can get any pw without no crypted lvm
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18:20<ach>with no crypted lvm
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18:29<BenediktXVII>Anybody please ? I am trying to install debian 8.8.0 non-free KDE. However when I try to start the live session to test it out first it just brings me to a prompt asking for user name and password and it won't boot into the live session. Is it a graphics driver bug ? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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19:30<tiptop>hey
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19:37<tiptop>hi
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20:08<thetom>Hello everyone! I just installed stretch on an apollo lake asrock j4205. I have an issue with audio. I can only hear audio from totem player. If I try a test from the config tool or play something from the web I can't hear anything. do you know how's possible?
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20:10<thetom>I forgot to say that I'm using hdmi audio.. And I can only hear some videos in totem, if I play an mp3 I'm getting no sound
20:11<Komputerfreak>do you use pulseaudio?
20:12<Komputerfreak>if yes you might be able to set the device in pavucontrol
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20:12<Komputerfreak>oh, no sound for mp3 in totem?
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20:13<thetom>Komputerfreak: Yes, I set the correct device in totem..Unfortunately is behaving in a strange way
20:14<thetom>Komputerfreak: yes, I can listen something only when I play some videos
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20:15<Komputerfreak>maybe the codec is missing? can you start totem from a terminal and look at the messages?
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20:17<thetom>Komputerfreak: this message is repeated at least 10 times (totem:4493): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_caps_append: assertion 'GST_IS_CAPS (caps2)' failed
20:19<Komputerfreak>ok does is say something else?
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20:19<Komputerfreak>this seems related to the media
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20:20<thetom>This is the only other thing..(totem:6183): Gtk-WARNING **: Drawing a gadget with negative dimensions. Did you forget to allocate a size? (node slider owner GtkScale)
20:21<thetom>I can confirm that the media were playing good in my old configuration.
20:21<linux7>hi everybody
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20:22<linux7>cry cry cry i just setup Arch in my virtualbox but it is not booting after the install :(:(
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20:22<Komputerfreak>sorry g2g
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20:24<jmcnaught>thetom: hello. you're better off asking in #debian-next for issues with stretch. This is the channel for jessie/stable support, stretch users will be in the other channel ☺
20:25<thetom>jmcnaught: Thank you!
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20:26<abrotman>linux7: uh, hi, #debian here
20:27<linux7>sorry i know
20:27<linux7>all that energy for nothing pfff
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21:24<bazarr>guy@linux: ~/Downloads $ uname -ra
21:24<bazarr>Linux linux 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
21:24<bazarr>guy@linux: ~/Downloads $
21:24<bazarr>blam
21:25<bazarr>guy@linux: ~/Downloads $ killall -9 su │guy@linux: ~/Downloads $ su
21:25<bazarr>guy@linux: ~/Downloads $ │Password: Killed
21:25<bazarr> │guy@linux: ~/Downloads $
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