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00:08<wakd>jmcnaught, a host reboot fixed the problem, I didn't change anything, guests can see my lan machines and public internet like when i installed them, everything working fine now!! :)
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00:12<wakd>jmcnaught, i see now that the problem appears after my script that restarts my host networking, it must be missing something required for virtualisation when it restarts the host interface or the host firewall
00:14<wakd>jmcnaught, thanks again for your assistance
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00:29<CyberDildo>ah my old nickname from another IRC network
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01:33<DarkKnight_>Hi people! I need a little help to rename a group of file to a new folder. I created the files using $ touch {uno,dos,tres} and now I wanna move and rename as a group to a new folder e.g. martes. So I made mv {uno,dos,tres} martes/{one,two,three} (I wanna rename uno to one, dos to two and tres to three) but the bash output say "mv: target three' is not a directory"
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01:35<jm_>you can't do that in a single step using the mv command
01:35<DarkKnight_>Sure?
01:35<jm_>yes
01:35<DarkKnight_>Ok. ty
01:35<DarkKnight_>:)
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01:39<jm_>other tools would help with the task though
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01:41<DarkKnight_>Ok. I also read about "rename", but actually I'm studying for a examen
01:41<DarkKnight_>Thanks you for all
01:41<DarkKnight_>*exam
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01:42<jm_>yeah with prename one can do something like 's/uno/martes\/one/; s/dos/martes\/two/; s/tres/martes\/three/' {uno,dos,tres}, then there's imv from renameutils package etc.
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02:08<marcosabcarvalho>boa noite
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02:17<Komputerfreak>maybe also something like this: for a in {uno,dos,tres}; do mv $a $(echo $a | sed -e 's/uno/one/' -e 's/dos/two/' -e 's/tres/three/'); done
02:18<minikdo_>Hi, can anybody tell me how to change tty font size (or resolution) at login/luks passphrase prompt (I don't mean dpkg-reconfigure console-setup)? Thanks
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02:19<lindi->minikdo_: that's quite early in the boot, good question
02:20<minikdo_>there seems to be three resolutions at boot time: grub, luks (initram?), tty
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02:21<jm_>doesn't initramfs honour console setup config? (I have no idea since I don't use debian kernels, or where I do I boot so rarely that I can't test)
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02:21<minikdo_>jm_: It doesn't...
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02:22<lindi->minikdo_: you can easily read what initramfs does, it's all shell scripts
02:22<lindi->minikdo_: I don't think it handles any fonts there but I could remember wrong
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02:23<jm_>looks like it handles keymap only
02:24<minikdo_>jm_: resolution?
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02:26<minikdo_>perhaps it's /etc/default/grub settings?
02:27<lindi->minikdo_: I doubt that
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02:30<jm_>do you have plymouth installed?
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03:02<Komputerfreak>why does echo {1,2,3} give 1 2 3 ...
03:02<Komputerfreak>but a={1,2,3}; echo $a; gives {1,2,3}?
03:07<lindi->Komputerfreak: {} expansion happens before $ expansion
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03:12<Komputerfreak>so that means it is not expanded when i type a={1,2,3] ?
03:12<grawity>it is not
03:12<grawity>try `declare -p a` to see the literal value
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03:12<grawity>the right-hand side of assignments has some rules of its own as well
03:13<Komputerfreak>thanks
03:13<Komputerfreak>can i find it on the manpage?
03:13<lindi->Komputerfreak: bash is documented using info pages I think
03:14<Komputerfreak>ok i will take a look
03:15<jm_>man page also deals with expansions etc.
03:16<morel>pitivi phones home when launched to check for updates or something. Is that considered a bug in debian?
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03:38<grove>morel: As #829527 exists I would say so
03:38<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/829527 in youtube-dl (open): «youtube-dl: don't "call home" by default»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-07-04; last modified: 2016-07-04.
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03:42<Komputerfreak>right, bracket expansion is not (directly) supported when assigning variables due to the manpage
03:42<Komputerfreak>*according to
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03:45<Komputerfreak>sorry, the manpage calls it brace expansion
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04:48<gtristan>So I have a tricky problem running debootstrap on a debian stretch system with systemd
04:49<gtristan>Not sure if systemd on my system is at fault, or maybe systemd in the debootstrap'ed system
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04:49<gtristan>What happens, is after running debootstrap, in /store/DEBOOTSTRAP... then I have an additionally mounted procps in /store/DEBOOTSTRAP/proc (debootstrap leaks a mount)
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04:50<gtristan>After that point, I cannot even unmount that proc... because now it is in use by some processes
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04:52<gtristan>So I have to reboot, I need to have some workaround for this, since my point of using debootstrap at this stage is to setup a service which normalizes a debian base into a revisioned ostree repository which I can later use as a build sandbox (long story short, it's a service which should run periodically, the machine running debootstrap should not reboot as a result)
04:52<gtristan>Any ideas ?
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04:53<gtristan>I have a feeling this might have to do with the debootstrapped rootfs having systemd in it, and perhaps it runs the install scriptlets which consequently mounts proc and daemonizes systemd in that chroot, and that survives after debootstrap
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04:54<petn-randall>gtristan: If you can't umount it, it only means that there are still process running that access it. You'll have to kill them first.
04:54<gtristan>Would be *very* nice if linux namespaces could be employed for this as unprivileged user, then exiting a pid namespace would automatically kill anything inside (but of course install scriptlets would have to fail gracefully if they did rooty things like mounting)
04:54<jm_>yeah ensure they get stopped
04:55<gtristan>Is there a way I can tell debootstrap to stop anything it started before exiting ?
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04:55<gtristan>I.e. within it's chroot (it is a chroot currently right ?)
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04:57<petn-randall>gtristan: What did you start in there?
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04:57<gtristan>petn-randall, nothing, debootstrap started things is what I'm guessing, I only run debootstrap
04:57<gtristan>and the result is a busy mounted /proc inside the debootstrapped directory
04:58<petn-randall>gtristan: What is the command you used?
04:58<gtristan>i.e. I expect an install scriptlet starts something, inside the debootstrap, as a side effect
04:58*gtristan fetches command
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05:00<gtristan>petn-randall, I run this script I created, with `--release stable`: https://bpaste.net/show/6825b4f9ef84
05:00<gtristan>So basically: debootstrap --include="${packages}" --arch="${arg_arch}" "${arg_release}" "${arg_workdir}" "${arg_mirror}"
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05:00<gtristan>currently I give arg_arch as amd64, arg_release as stable and a work dir, and a korean mirror
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05:02<gtristan> There are two use cases, I want to take that base, and automatically build the GNOME release modulesets continuously on it, and then I'm going to wrap it into a VM so that developers can test/debug things like gdm/gnome-session etc
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05:02<gtristan>so building, and booting VMs
05:02<gtristan>the VM part I'll have to sort out after, but I wanted to have some real debian services pre-installed to start out with
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05:26<gtristan>Easier question: How can I find the file list of this package from this web page: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libstdc++6 ?
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05:29<Komputerfreak>does the following work to check the sha256 of a dvd in my drive: cat /dev/sr0 | tail -c `isosize /dev/sr0` | sha256sum ?
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05:31<Komputerfreak>click on 'list of files' i suppose
05:31<Komputerfreak>next to the architecture
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05:31<gtristan>Komputerfreak, ah thanks, I always have trouble navigating these pages :)
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05:35<jm_>!tell Komputerfreak -about check iso
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05:36<gtristan>Is there a virtual package for libstdc++-4.8-doc ? Or I need to know the exact version of gcc which comes with each release of debian ?
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05:38<jm_>gtristan: install build-essential instead?
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05:38<Komputerfreak>ah yes - why did i use tail? thanks!
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05:39<gtristan>jm_, will that give me the docs packages ?
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05:39<gtristan>in fact I know it doesnt, I am already using build-essential
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05:39<jm_>gtristan: no
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05:40*gtristan has a naughty source module to build which goes out and tries to access network at build time to wget libstdc++.tag... If I have the right one installed in the sealed build sandbox already, I can copy it in place first
05:41<gtristan>(mm-common, seems to have issues for debian as well https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652605)
05:41<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/652605 in mm-common (open): «mm-common's libstdc++.tag should match the version of libstdc++*-doc»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-12-19; last modified: 2011-12-19.
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05:43<gtristan>Another debootstrap question... is there a practical way that I can use a local cache for the deb files it downloads, so that every time I run it it will save debs to there, and check if the deb is there already before trying to download a fresh one ?
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05:43<gtristan>Would speed up my script immensely
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05:47<Komputerfreak>i am surprised it doesn't check, i thought apt would do that
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05:47<gtristan>Komputerfreak, oh so you mean, if I just do it twice in the same directory it might work ?
05:48<jm_>if nothing else apt caching proxy shall help
05:48<gtristan>I wonder if it would work when changing my --include= list to *remove* some package
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06:15<gtristan>confusing, libpcre2-dev is only available in testing and sid, while libpcre3-dev is in stable
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06:17<jm_>if you put it that way it may be confusing, but libpcre3-dev is also in testing/sid, at which point it's no longer so unusual
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06:22<gtristan>Oh is it ?
06:22<gtristan>oops :)
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06:28<jm_>ok so I was wrong, package description clarifies it: New projects should use this library in preference to the older library, confusingly called pcre3 in Debian.
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06:30<gtristan>So I worked around my debootstrap issue, turns out there was a submount under proc, and I can cleanly unmount after debootstrap leaks the mounts
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06:37<gtristan>It looks like there are some new virtual packages available in testing, which would make my scripting easier... looking at the latest version (https://bpaste.net/show/e41f05d13b68), any packages which jump out and obviously have virtual package names I can use instead ?
06:38*gtristan has been googleing "debian ${package name} ${release}" where release is sid,jessie or stretch and trying to support all three for the base GNOME system deps
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06:39<gtristan>and oops, it's plymouth-dev in jessie, not libplymouth-dev
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06:49<gtristan>Oh yeah one more thing, any idea what installs /usr/bin/dtrace ? I seem to have a bad one in my debootstrap results (at least for jessie)
06:49<gtristan>it whines about -fPIC not being a valid command
06:49<gtristan>option
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06:49<bremner>systemtap-sdt-dev
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06:50<bremner>apt-file search is your friend
06:50<gtristan>I think I have an indirect dependency on it
06:50<gtristan>bremner, can I use apt-file for files that are not installed ?
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06:50<bremner>that is the main point of it
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06:50<bremner>for files that are installed, dpkg -S is much faster
06:51<jm_>yeah see /msg dpkg search
06:51<gtristan>oh yeah looks like I can: apt-file search <path>
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07:13<nickolay>Good afternoon everybody. I'm trying to install AMD Catalyst Proprietary driver How can I find what packgage generation I need for this driver?
07:14<gtristan>looks like debootstrap --include="${huge-package-list}" --exclude=systemtap-sdt-dev did not succeed in excluding that dtrace :-/
07:14<gtristan>not sure why the dependency on it is a hard one
07:15<nickolay>Is it terminal command? i mean --include
07:15<nickolay>or I must run packgage with this parameter?
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07:17<nickolay>!ru
07:17<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
07:17<jm_>nickolay: why not follow wiki instructions?
07:17<jm_>https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
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07:19<nickolay>Thank you!
07:20<jm_>no problem
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09:14<EmleyMoor>Is there a way to use whois to find all the IP ranges of a given netname?
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09:19<Nolz[m]>https://github.com/ngrundmann/massElastic/blob/master/massElastic.sh not exactly what youre searching for, but you could tweak it a bit. maybe it helps
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09:20<EmleyMoor>If that was aimed at me it's gone right over my head
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09:22<Nolz[m]>why?
09:23<EmleyMoor>I can't understand its original purpose
09:23<Nolz[m]>oh
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09:24<Nolz[m]>i misunderstood your question. i ignored the given netname. im sorry
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09:40<piper>EmleyMoor: maybe use dig +add +trace or have you read https://www.arin.net/resources/services/whois_guide.html
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09:48<shtrb>Any DD who manges http://packages.microsoft.com/debian/8/prod can rebuild and put mssql there ?
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09:57<bremner>uh. wut?
09:57<zeta>shtrb: that repo is controlled by microsoft, ask them.
09:58<shtrb>never mind , I thought it was incorrect to put stuff under main in that context , but apperntly it's ok to put stuff under main
09:58<shtrb>well yes , but I expected that there would be some DD or just a person the liked debian who packages stuff there
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10:02<bremner>there might be, but the odds of them also being in this channel are not that high
10:02<bremner>there are about 1000 DDs
10:03<shtrb>It's a small world , someone know someone .....
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10:08<somiaj>shtrb: #debian-mentors is a better channel to get info about getting packages into debian, though you may just want to file a requst to package bug (provided such a thing can be packaged by debian)
10:09<somiaj>but my guess is microsofts license won't let debian redistribute it, and even if that was the case it most likely woulnd't be DFSG and allowed in debian main.
10:10<somiaj>shtrb: note it would be incorrect to put non DFSG stuff under main.
10:10<bremner>is that what the question is? I intepreted it as adding something to a microsoft.com website
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10:10<somiaj>maybe I thought it was could you get this package into debian.
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10:11*grove too, in which case #debian-offtopic would have been a batter choice
10:11<shtrb>bremner , read correctly I failed to express my question in an easy way
10:11<grove>s/batter/better/
10:11<shtrb>somiaj , I expected that an exsiting DD did all the work (that is why I came here )
10:11<somiaj>shtrb: anyone can build a third party debian repo, the tools are all open. So the person who manages that repo need not be a debian DD
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10:12<shtrb>one can hope it was a DD or someone who liked debian enough
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10:32<arturo>any reason systemd would restart a daemon at a fixed our every day?
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10:33<arturo>(with me not ordering it)
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10:33<themill>is it actually logrotate doing it? Nothing in the logs to say what has happened?
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10:35<arturo>themill: I see several other services HUPed and this daemon in question (conntrackd) gets restarted
10:35<arturo>ooo
10:35<arturo>themill: of course, it's logrotate -_-
10:35<themill>HUP sounds a lot like logrotate
10:35<themill>!win me
10:35<dpkg>Congratulations, themill! You have won a lifetime supply of spam!
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10:36<arturo>xd
10:36<themill>:)
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11:38<root__>help
11:39<bremner>!ask
11:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
11:39<petn-randall>root__: ^^^
11:40<root__>ANYONE HERE
11:40<Tjis>please no shouting :(
11:40<root__>okay
11:40<root__>am new on Smuxi
11:40<petn-randall>!smuxi
11:40<dpkg>smuxi (Smart MUltipleXed Irc) is an <irssi>-inspired IRC client for the <GNOME> desktop. The IRC session can run within the Smuxi server, allowing for <screen>-like detachment/reattachment. Written in C# and requires <mono>. http://www.smuxi.org/ #smuxi on irc.oftc.net.
11:41<meebey>Smuxi is <3
11:41<meebey>but don't IRC as root
11:41<Tjis>don't gnome as root
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11:42<root__>why at meebey
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11:42<meebey>because that is insecure
11:42<petn-randall>root__: Which distro are you running?
11:43<root__>that true
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11:43<root__>Kali 2017.1
11:43<petn-randall>!kali
11:43<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
11:43<petn-randall>root__: You might want to go there ^^^. This channel is for Debian support only.
11:43<root__>and you?
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11:44<Tjis>!debian
11:44<dpkg>debian is, like, http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
11:44<petn-randall>Take a wild guess.
11:44<Tjis>I expected more from you dpkg
11:44*petn-randall pats dpkg.
11:45<root__>but i love debian
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11:45<root__>most of the script i use are for debian
11:45<krafte>Not a big issue, but whenever there are updates for me (running debian gnome), the software & updates notification comes up that they are ready to be installed. going there, it always says to "restart & install", even if is a single package
11:45<Tjis>if you love it so much, then why don't you use it
11:47<krafte>one of the hallmarks of linux is to avoid restarting the computer when installing programs. So I don't see why it is required here. maybe it is a catch-all for when kernel updates are available
11:48<root__>lol
11:48<root__>linux is kinda fast to me
11:48<root__>expecially Kali
11:49<linux7>guys how do i check my battery status in Debian Jessie with the LXDE / OPENBOX desktop ?
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11:51<Tjis>probably offtopic but kali is terrible. running everything as root is terrible. having a special 'hacker os' is terrible.
11:51<bremner>linux7: "apt-cache search battery openbox" suggests tint2
11:52<root__>lol
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11:52<linux7>thanks bremner
11:52<linux7>root__ check your PM
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11:53<krafte>I just opened synaptic package manager, installed my updates that way.. with NO RESTART! Going back to the gnome software & updates window, it says I am up to date. So why does gnome always want to make me restart?
11:54<bremner>I can only think of snarky answers to that as a non-gnome user
11:54<krafte>does kde support desktop notifications? if so I might switch to something like that
11:55<krafte>gnome has been getting annoying lately
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11:59<itd>krafte: It does support desktop notifications (and can notify you on updates - AFAIK).
12:00<krafte>itd, okay thanks. I will be switching
12:00<Tjis>I do not recall gnome ever asking me to restart though
12:01<annadane>krafte, there's nothing specific to gnome that would require you to restart as opposed to other de's
12:01<krafte>I get a desktop notification "Software & updates are ready to be installed" then at that window it says to restart and install
12:02<annadane>either it's a setting you have enabled, or a specific type of update you're trying to install (ie a kernel modification of some sort)
12:02<krafte>but synaptic gets by without restarting, so it seems like lazy programming by gnome
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12:03<annadane>incidentally, the purpose of restarting isn't so "synaptic gets by", it's to apply the changes
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12:04<krafte>ok that makes more sense. still, it would be nice if it could prompt to either restart and apply changes, or stay in the desktop
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12:04<annadane>it doesn't sound like usual behavior to me but i don't use gnome
12:05<annadane>the other possibility is that somewhere you have a half-installed update, but i have no clue
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13:43<Komputerfreak>can someone construct an example with the ((...)) command, as in ((1-1))? i do not really understand what it is good for
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13:44<Komputerfreak>((1-1))
13:44<Komputerfreak>i mean
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13:45<bremner>are you maybe talking about bash arithmetic contexts?
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13:46<Komputerfreak>yes - but how could it be used? it return 1 if the arithmetic expression inside is 0 and 1 if not, if i understand it correctly
13:46<Komputerfreak>*returns
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13:47<bremner>#bash on freenode has a very extensive FAQ, you can probably find what you need there
13:47<bremner>afair, it's just for doing arithmetic, nothing fancy
13:48<Komputerfreak>ok
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13:48<Komputerfreak>but it seems to be different from $((1+1)), which is evaluated to 2
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13:49<Komputerfreak>the ((...)) just changes the exit status, depending on the expression inside
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13:50<Komputerfreak>i will look at the FAQ, thank you
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14:22<skx_>hi all - i have a hard time configuring thinkfan
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14:23<skx_>i have it running but i get a systemd warning which doesnt give me lots of evidence
14:23<skx_>systemctl status thinkfan shows its running
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14:24<skx_> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/thinkfan.service; enabled)
14:24<skx_> Active: active (running) since Wed 2017-05-17 20:07:13 CEST; 16min ago
14:24<skx_> Main PID: 652 (thinkfan)
14:24<skx_> CGroup: /system.slice/thinkfan.service
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14:25<skx_>damn it, sorry it doesnt paste anymore?
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14:25<skx_>https://paste.debian.net/932916/
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14:26<skx_>this is the output of systemd status thinkfan
14:26<skx_>why i get this warning? WARNING: Using default fan control in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
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14:26<piper>skx_: have you read http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=118734 https://forum.thinkpads.com//viewtopic.php?t=119546
14:27<skx_>doesnt it use my config set in /etc/thinkfan.conf
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14:27<annadane>yeah, don't paste logs to the channel, use paste.debian.net
14:27<piper>skx_: i have no idea, no need for it, why i posted did you read ...
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14:28<skx_>I will read now piper, will be back soon, hopefully with positive feedback :)
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14:28<piper>:
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14:39<skx_>piper, yes i did the same, it's running, and i don't have auto but the level mentioned under cat /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
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14:39<skx_>i am just worrying about this warning
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14:39<skx_>thinkfan[642]: WARNING: Using default fan control in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
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14:40<skx_>piper, do you get the same warning when verifying: systemctl status thinkfan.service
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14:41<piper>skx_: as i said above, i don't use this, https://askubuntu.com/questions/481459/thinkfan-control-doesnt-use-the-fan-full-potential-when-needed
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14:42<piper>skx_: check # 2 on that thread
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14:43<piper>skx_: but, read the whole thing ;)
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14:43<piper>skx_: might give some ideas to try
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14:44<skx_>i did, they all do the same, only thing i see differentiating is their modprobe conf filename
14:44<skx_>thinkfan.conf
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14:45<skx_>i am clueless why thinkfan is running but it warns me it doesnt use its conf file
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14:45<skx_>we have to document such things on our wiki instead of having to dig in plenty of non debian forums
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14:46<piper>skx_: and i don't have anything to do any testing either, have you tried posting on the debian forums, or searching there
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15:21<greenJim>hi Debian people
15:21<greenJim>small question
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15:22<greenJim>I am preseeding a Debian install based on the Stretch install image
15:22<greenJim>It runs fine if I choose the non-graphical install option after booting
15:23<greenJim>but if I choose the graphical install, it directly stops asking for the install language
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15:23<greenJim>any idea if the graphical install should also work / read the preseeded values as the non-graphical install does ?
15:24<blast007>does it fail with the Jessie image too?
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15:25<greenJim>blast007: I did not try
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15:26<blast007>to be a bit more clear, testing/unstable is supported in #debian-next, while this channel is for stable.
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15:26<greenJim>OK
15:26<greenJim>I'll leave and join the other channel
15:26<greenJim>thx
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16:44<aura>How do i get root privileges to edit file in file system?
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16:44<ryouma>aura: using what editor?
16:45<ryouma>aura: you can just log in or use sudo
16:45<ryouma>or with some editors, you can edit as root
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16:45<aura>which line should i use in the terminal?
16:46<aura>i want to delete a file in /etc
16:47<itd>aura: You could try 'nano /etc/your_file'. What is your goal?
16:47<aura>delete this file
16:47<Tjis>what for. are you sure you want this
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16:49<itd>aura: You dont' need an editor to delete a file. Which file do you want to delete?
16:50<itd>s/dont'/don't/
16:50<aura>a file i created
16:51<itd>aura: Use the command 'man rm'. You can use 'q' to terminate.
16:52<linux7>aura is the file locked ?
16:52-!-mode/#debian [+l 763] by debhelper
16:52<linux7>then do this in an root terminal : rm -r yourfile
16:52<linux7>and it's gone.
16:53<linux7>first locate your file ofcourse.
16:53<linux7>in the same root terminal where you going to delete it with the command : rm -r
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16:53<linux7>i always use that and it always work.
16:54<aura>thanks
16:54<linux7>let me know if it works
16:54<aura>now i'm going to delete everything and unistall debian
16:54<linux7>and you re-install debian or another distro ?
16:54<aura>jk
16:55<aura>but sometimes i feel helpless :(
16:55<linux7>yes me too
16:55<linux7>that is why i run some other linux distro's too
16:55<linux7>but on this laptop i run only debian
16:56<itd>aura: Tell #debian your problem (and answer our questions) and #debian can/will try to help you.
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16:59<aura>what's the protocoll for debugging packages?
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16:59<aura>should i delete packages or scan for bugs?
17:00<itd>aura: What do you want to debug? Please describe your problem in more detail.
17:00<aura>something is broken, firefox crash and everytime i close a session i have to kill the process manually
17:01<aura>the same goes for other softwares
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17:01<linux7>you have debian jessie aura ?
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17:01<aura>testing
17:01<linux7>oh that's long ago for me haha
17:02<itd>aura: I'd say debian testing is not a good place for you, if you feel helpless (sometimes).
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17:02<linux7>aura maybe it is better to make an backup of all your files (music , movies , photo's e.t.c e.t.c ) and install debian jessie ?
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17:03<aura>wifi won't work on jessie
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17:04<linux7>yes , it works
17:04<linux7>you need to install the correct plugins from debian.org
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17:04<aura>it's something with kernel
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17:05<itd>aura: Which kernel version do you need?
17:05<aura>last time i installed debian jessie (2 months ago) the kernel didn't support wireless
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17:06<aura>so i had to get another kernel that was available only in testing
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17:07<linux7>itd what was that command for checking wich wifi adapter an laptop has ? lscp or someting ?
17:07<itd>dpkg: what's my wireless
17:07<dpkg>Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ , or ask me about <whats my hardware>. See also <wireless>.
17:07<linux7>can't remember that command
17:07<itd>aura: Read dpkg message and paste the result on paste.debian.net
17:07<itd>linux7: 'lspci -nn' should work as well.
17:08<linux7>oh yes that was it
17:08*Zeljko said: I am sorry! I had same problem, i conected my T420 with my phone with lan and maked aptget update and upgrade and installed wifi
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17:09<itd>Zeljko: 'had' == 'I fixed it'?
17:10<Zeljko>Yes, i writed from this Laptop :-)
17:10<linux7>check my output of the command ''lspci -nn'' : https://pastebin.com/jtfZNXF7
17:10<itd>aura: You can have both. Debian stable and a (more or less) recent kernel.
17:10<itd>Zeljko: Good. :)
17:10<Zeljko>Debian 8.8 64bit
17:11<aura>but i remember someone told me to install testing
17:11<itd>aura: In #debian?
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17:12<aura>i don't remeber, either it was difficult or it could have mess up with stable
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17:13<sicelo>no one should ever tell you to install testing .. it's a choice you should make for yourself (and implies you have some idea what you are doing)
17:14<piper>!wireless
17:14<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
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17:15<piper>!iwlwifi
17:15<dpkg>The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices are listed at https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>, <iwl7000>.
17:15<emmett>hi
17:16<emmett>hello
17:16<itd>emmett: Hi there.
17:16<emmett>talk
17:16<emmett>hi
17:16<itd>dpkg: chat
17:16<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
17:16<aura>another question how do i copy back a file in file system?
17:17<itd>aura: 'copy back'?
17:17<linux7>MAYBE this helps for your wifi aura : https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch&searchon=names&keywords=wifi
17:17<emmett>bye
17:17<aura>just copy :p
17:17<itd>aura: 'man cp'
17:17<aura>but wait
17:18<emmett>i did
17:18<linux7>aura MAYBE helps this: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-iwlwifi
17:18<linux7>i'm not sure.
17:18<aura>what should i write in the terminal?
17:18<itd>aura: Depends on what you want to do. Read: https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/coreutils/cp.1.en.html
17:19<aura>the file i want to copy is in another directory
17:19<itd>linux7: Why should that help?
17:19<linux7>to setup the wifi itd
17:19<linux7>but i did that always in debian jessie
17:19<linux7>not in testing
17:19<linux7>in testing it is pre-installed i remember ?
17:20<linux7>testing is long ago for me
17:20<itd>linux7: Installing intel firmware only helps if you have an intel card.
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17:20<linux7>ofcourse :) i'm total not good with hardware itd
17:20<linux7>to be honest
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17:23<itd>aura: Did that help?
17:23<aura>i don't know how to use nano
17:24<aura>i would like to use the text editor
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17:24<aura>right now i'm trying to copy a config file into /etc
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17:24<aura>how do i make a new one using the text editor?
17:25<itd>aura: Copy a file: 'cp [ OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST' - you can ignore stuff in [] - so: 'cp SOURCE DESTINATION'.
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17:26<Tjis>aura: you mean you'd like to use a gui editor?
17:26<itd>aura: Just give the location and then save the file. At the bottom there are two lines telling you how to use nano.
17:27<itd>aura: '^O Write Out' is what you want and '^W' means: please press ctrl+w
17:27<aura>thanks itd
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17:27<Komputerfreak>linux7 its not that hard, why not learn about it? :-)
17:27<aura>i copied it back
17:28<linux7>almost no time to learn it at the moment Komputerfreak
17:28<linux7>alot private things to do.
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17:30<Komputerfreak>ok, i do not really mean right now
17:31<linux7>i know :)
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17:31<Komputerfreak>not *necessarily*
17:31<linux7>:)
17:31<linux7>be right back.
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17:32<Komputerfreak>if you can buy hardware and install it yourself, you can save money and buy even more hardware
17:32<linux7>that is true :)
17:33<linux7>i need RAM memory cards.
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17:33<linux7>so that is the first thing to learn for me :)
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17:37<Komputerfreak>basically: pull out the old ones, put in the new ones
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17:37<linux7>but this laptop is brand new
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17:38<Komputerfreak>the principle does not really depend on the age of the computer
17:38<Komputerfreak>(if you do not go back too far in time)
17:38<linux7>oh ok :)
17:39<linux7>two weeks :)
17:40<linux7>i buyed this laptop in an microsoft windows store
17:40<linux7>but i destroyed windows 10
17:40<annadane>well done
17:40<linux7>yes i HATE windows
17:41<Komputerfreak>you could have saved money by not haviing it installed in the first place probably
17:41<linux7>yes that is true Komputerfreak
17:41<linux7>next week i buy another brand new laptop without pre-installed operating system
17:41*itd bites the bullet
17:41<itd>dpkg: chat
17:41<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
17:42<linux7>sorry.
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17:44<linux7>yes sir :)
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20:06<bremner>what is up with that person.
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20:20<piper>one too many beers
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20:26<bremner>yeah, once fine, could happen to anyone. But this like the fifth time they pasted that
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20:27<GLolol>his system has a lot of x86_64 for sure
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20:28<piper>well, *probably done on purpose, some like getting a kick using ubuntu on debian channel
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20:32<bremner>living large.
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